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Janosky:
@ Hebrew 1:6 Catholic Church New Jerusalem Bible rendition reads "homage. "
Nah dem start Trinity before you & your ancestors.
Please go and rest, you are deluded.

The basic meaning of Greek proskuneo is "Prostrate", for instance, the manner that the Yorubas pay homage to a monarch or Kabiyesi or very senior man.

English translators ascribed proskuneo to worship.
But that is not it's basic meaning in Middle Eastern culture where Jesus was born & lived.
Screenshot evidences.


@ Hebrew 1:6 the Catholic Church Bible rendition is :
"pay homage to him (Jesus).

Jesus Christ @ Matthew 4:10 & Mark 12:29 instruct you to worship Christ?

Your claim is FALSE and faulted by Jesus Christ @Matthew 4:10 & Mark 12:29 -30.

Carry your 2 persons worshipping idolatry out of this forum.

MaxInDHouse:
God's word is not contradictory so if you can't find out why Jesus said only one person should be worshiped and all his disciples are united to do so but claiming you know better while you and all trinitarians are confused regarding the way forward then it simply means something is wrong with your Trinity God!

Janosky:
MUMU man, God can not,did not birth himself.

Any Being that God births is a creature.
Goat don't birth himself,Goat births another creature.
Stop deceiving yourself.

JAGWINGS:
Go ahead a special technician is here to support

MaxInDHouse:
If so go and unite worshipers of Trinity after all worshipers of the only true God must be united that's what the scripture says consistently {Psalms 133:1} they are to have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} Jesus can only assemble with united believers {Matthew 18:20} because it's in their unity that his father commands His eternal blessings! Psalms 133:3b

MaxInDHouse:
This is part of the ERRORS committed by translators OBEISANCE differ from WORSHIP that's why Jesus said only his God should be worshiped! John 20:17

MaxInDHouse:
Worship belongs to only one person:


“Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only." ‭Matthew 4:10

And who is Jehovah, who is Jesus? Satan is not Jehovah, neither Jesus, hence he deserves no worship. Jesus was worshipped as the Lamb in the book of Revelation. Hebrews 1:6 says "...let all the angels of God worship Him." All.thr angels, not "...let other angels of God worship Him." Hence He couldn't have been part of the angels. Jesus is Jehovah, the only One is from Everything to Everlasting. The Night God. The Everlasting Father. God with us.


Worship belongs to only JEHOVAH!

gohf:
if you know Psalm 18 is about Jesus and it is God who brings him out, why then do you act ignorant and believe a lie that Jesus the Messiah is God?

MaxInDHouse:
But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him"

Obeisance differ from worship it simply means obedience to someone.

gohf:
Ps.18.15 - Then at your command, O LORD, at the blast of your breath, the bottom of the sea could be seen, and the foundations of the earth were laid bare.
Ps.18.16 - He reached down from heaven and rescued me; he drew me out of deep waters.

Who do you think Psalm 18 was about?

gohf:
where did Moses and the prophets tell us that Jesus is their God?

gohf:
Ps.102.25 In ages past God laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

MaxInDHouse:
Moses was a God just as Jesus was a God nobody worshiped the two of them because they both refer people to the God they worshiped.
Some translations rendered Obeisance as worship so i can't blame you the error came from translators who infused their philosophy into their translations.

MaxInDHouse:
There are many mighty Gods!
Psalms 82:1 compare to 1Corinthians 8:5

But only one God is ALMIGHTY! Exodus 6:2-3; Psalms 83:18


Where did i count Adam as one of the mighty Gods?
The rebellious angels that turned to demons and are worshiped by humans are mighty spirit beings including human kings who sits as Gods in their respective positions are all mighty Gods that's why the Almighty said they will all perish because they never gave Him the glory but ascribed glory to themselves! Psalms 82:6 compare to Act 12:21-23
Jesus and Moses were mighty Gods too but they both gave the Almighty all the glory!

MaxInDHouse:
Adam supposed to live forever as the father of all mankind but lost his life and passed sin and death to all his descendants {Romans 5:12} Jesus came to replace Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} and bought us with his blood making us his own children so that all those that believe him as their foster father by faith and live by his teachings as a child learns from his father {Deuteronomy 6:4-7} are no longer Adam's descendants but have become children of an obedient father who will last forever unlike Adam our former but dead father. John 1:11-12
He is also one of the mighty Gods {Psalms 82:1, 6} like Moses {Exodus 7:1} but not the Almighty! Psalms 83:18

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus condemned the use of physical weapons among his disciples! Matthew 26:52
Jesus told his disciples never to retaliate when they are wronged! Matthew 5:38-39
Jesus told his disciples to be cautious like serpents and HARMLESS like doves! Mathew 10:16

Can a soldier be harmless?
Emphatically not!

gohf:
please enlighten us where did Moses and the prophets tell us that Jesus is their God?

gohf:
so according to you God did not lay the foundations of the world?!!
Job.38.4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Isa.51.13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?
Ps.104.5 You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever,

MaxInDHouse:
Can Christians be soldiers?

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah, there no firstborn that's not part of those been born!

gohf:
Jesus is not God.

gohf:
so according to you God did not lay the foundations of the world?!!
Job.38.4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Isa.51.13 that you forget the LORD your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth, that you live in constant terror every day because of the wrath of the oppressor, who is bent on destruction? For where is the wrath of the oppressor?
Ps.104.5 You who laid the foundations of the earth, So that it should not be moved forever,

Janosky:
There's no length Gotham won't go to twist the holy scriptures in imitation of his Trinitarian mentors.
They don't want first born to mean first born.



Have you removed Hebrew 1:5-6 from your Bible that Jesus is the first born of God his Father?

Have you removed 1 Corinthians 11:3 & 1 Timothy 2:13 from your Bible that Eve is the last born of God?

Have you removed God's hierarchical structure from your Bible at 1 Corinthians 11:3?

Jesus Christ is a creature.
You can not change the holy scriptures

Janosky:

Nah so this kid dunce?
Have you edited John 14:28 in your Bible?
You are embarrassing yourself defending your delusion.

Ask your friends to show you how many persons you mentioned in your post.

👉👉GothamCities:
"He (Jesus) is the Aloha and Omega, just as Jehovah Himself.
He is the Beginning and the Ending, just as Jehovah Himself. He (Jehovah) is the Everlasting Father just as Jesus Himself"

DaddyCoool:
This will definitely be my last post on this thread. Please don't feel bad if I don't respond to your post after this.

(Continuing)
3) Christ is the ONLY entity in the entire history of the universe who was foretold as God coming to stay with us, when he came said he was the long-awaited God, and thousands of years later is proven right.
a) He was foretold as God comming to stay with us thousands of years in advance - "Everlasting Father" , "Mighty God" , " Immanuel" (God.with us).
b) When he came, he confirmed with his own mouth that he was the God they were awaiting - "Why do you ask me to show you God? Haven't you seen me? Once you've seen me you've seen God"
c) Was raised from the dead to be worshipped as God, (after already being called God and worshipped as God), indicating God's approval of such worship.
a) Has been vindicated by time. 2000+ years later he has turned out to be truly who he and the prophets said he was - "God with us". No such else has ever arisen that even comes close.
Today he's being worshipped as God by a huge chunk of humanity, with powerful testimonies and powerful movements of God's Spirit, all indicative of God's approval of such worship!

gohf:
God is everlasting

MaxInDHouse:
He is the FIRST BORN means of all that's created he was the first! Proverbs 8:22-30

MaxInDHouse:
And you support WARS so that soldiers can go and kill your spiritual brothers and sisters in other lands simply because they are not your race!

MaxInDHouse:
Gather yourselves together and start the work Jesus assigned to his faithful disciples then you will know that by the time you have REAL SPIRITUAL BROTHERS in all the countries of the world nobody needs to tell you that the works of military men is against God's will by the time soldiers are killing your so called fellow believers who supposed to be doing the work of your God in other lands!

MaxInDHouse:
A FIRSTBORN child is one of the children o! Colossians 1:15

gohf:
you are a liar for raising those doubts and saying all doubts are cleared, that's deception.

because Jesus comes from everlasting you concluded that Jesus is God, therefore there are no more doubts. That's the dubious statement of a halfbaked salesman that wants to rip people off.

gohf:
😂😂 are you not deceiving yourself like the lie of a topic you wrote.. ALL DOUBTS CLEARED, it that not a lie, instead of clearing doubts you raised even more doubts