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MaxInDHouse:
You don't have shame!

That best describes you.

When did we start talking about 2 Peter 2:4?

You're confused.

Michael547:
2 Peter 2:4 contains fallen angels and Tatarus. You've not still showed us where hades or hell appears in 1 Peter 3:18-20.

Are we talking about 2Peter 2:4?

Michael547:
Oga the Hebrew word in Jonah 2:2 is 'Sheol'. The same Hebrew word that you argued in Ecclesiastics9:10 that it means 'grave'. So why are you changing mouth now?

Sheol means realm of the dead. It is often translated according to context.

In Ecclesiastes, it means grave.

MaxInDHouse:
Jonah 2:2

“Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave I cried for help. You heard my voice." NWT

“In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me. From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help, and you listened to my cry." NIV‬


You're really amusing abeg!

So, the grave is the realm of the dead according to you?

Which grave exactly did Jonah find himself in that your fake NWT Bible translated it grave?

Where was the grave located?

MaxInDHouse:
You can run but you can't hide!

Where did Peter say it was the spirit of those who perished by water that were imprisoned?

I have shown you that several times quoting and explaining the verse. If you think otherwise, quote the verse and disprove me as I've done!.

I have told you this several times. If you're sure of yourself, do the right thing.

MaxInDHouse:
Hell and Grave means the same thing! Jonah 2:2

Who told you this lie?

Tell me where you saw Jonah in a grave.

It's very difficult to bring you guys to see truth because it will be necessary to overhaul a whole lot of jargons and demonic doctrines from.yiue foundation before one will be able to plant truth in you.

MaxInDHouse:
And who told you fallen angels perish by water?

Ọmọ people who lived in Noah's days perished by water but fallen angels did not that's why God imprisoned them in the spirit realms.

Lol.

Peter said it was the spirits of those who perished by water that were imprisoned.

I think it's time to stop talking with you as you don't regard the Scriptures.

MaxInDHouse:
God said the dead knows and feels nothing {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} you can start from there!

In the grave okay. Not in hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy don't worry jàre after all your folks gave you their likes it's people like me and my brothers that aren't moved with heresies that you're all carrying in your head.

Heresies that take the Bible literally you mean? Or the heresy that inserted Tartarus and fallen angels where they're not?

MaxInDHouse:
He came to preach to the living not the dead!

I think it's not healthy to be responding to you and be hearing very nauseating lines of thinking.

Why don't you sit down and study that book of Peter very well and make your research instead of spewing thrash all over the place?

I don't even know who told you that fallen angels perished by water. What nonesense!

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣🤣na wa....show me na....that is where I will catch you....do you want to tell me that spirits of dead men goes to the lower regions of the earth where christ went to when he died? If yes, is the earth in the spirit realm?

Chai!

Are you a baby boy?

Going down to the earth means death. It does not mean that the spirits remain there.

You didn't answer any question I asked but you keep asking useless questions.

If Peter was talking about a physical grave, why was Jesus preaching to spirits there? Do spirits live in the grave?

MaxInDHouse:
How many times will they be preached to?

According to God's word it's appointed that man live once so how come they have double chances of hearing preaching?
Noah preached to them they ignore.
Jesus now to the same people again.

Ọmọ Noah preached to his contemporaries humans like him and they perished due to their stubbornness Jesus can't preach at death but his condition is a warning to fallen angels that came to have SEX with female humans in the days of Noah! Genesis 6:1-5

You're confused.

And I'm sorry, I don't have the time to teach you.

Jesus can't preach to angels. He didn't come to save them!

That's a very demonic doctrine!

Michael547:
Show me where the spirit ls of dead men go?

Go and find out yourself. Nairaland is not Bible school!

Michael547:
So if Ecclesiastics was talking about sheol as the grave,
where did Peter say that the spirits were in hades?

I think your confusion stems from the fact that you don't know where the spirits of dead men go!

MaxInDHouse:
It's not assertion rather it's what you yourself brought but you can repost it again perhaps it's not clear to you!

Then paste and underline. Is that hard to do?

Michael547:
Does not your own research tells you that Grave lacks the connotation of the original terms of sheol and Hades? Don't you see why others use Hades or sheol instead of grave? Are you an illiterate?

Illiterate.

Ecclesiastes was talking about the grave!

Peter was talking about a prison of spirits.

Jesus got the keys of Hades. Not the grave.

Souls of martyrs cried from under the altar!

MaxInDHouse:
You brought a reference which stated clearly that Hades, Sheol and Grave are used as the same thing yet you want to start arguing blindly again.

Na wah for you o!

I said you should post the reference and underline where it says so! I reject your assertion, so prove Mr wrong!

Michael547:
He clearly said 'spirits' find me where he said 'souls'

Oh oh, so now you want to be going roundabout.

So, he clearly said spirits and also mentioned only 8 souls saved?

MaxInDHouse:
LIE!

DEAD people are in their graves awaiting resurrection {John 5:28-29} it's fallen angels that are imprisoned according to God's word!

So it's fallen angels that Noah preached to who disobeyed him and were flooded by water?

Michael547:
Lol....baba I am with you na......show me where Peter said 'souls' were in prison......don't run away oo.....what entity does soul and spirit dwell?

Quote and show me where Peter didn't say souls!

Michael547:
So can't you see that sheol and Hades can be used for grave?

What is the Hebrew word used in Ecclesiastics 9:10? That is the question that I am asking you. Don't you agree that hades is hell again?

Even AI said they're often used interchangeably but they're not the same. It went ahead to state the differences. Are you an illiterate?

MaxInDHouse:
But the reference says Shoel, Hades and Grave means the same thing nah!

I know you're not sincere. Now, underline the parts that say so!

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣false teacher cannot prove what entity the soul and spirit dwell.
Can you kindly show me where Peter mentioned 'souls' as those who were in prisons?

False teacher fraudulently disregard the Bible to show forth his demonic doctrines on this thread.

How many things should I teach you. I've expose your falsehoods long enough!

I should start teaching you again about Spirits, souls and bodies? Create a thread for that and get teachers!

Michael547:
What is the Hebrew word for grave according to the Hebrews interlinear?

Perhaps you don't have hands to search for it yourself.

This is meta AI!

Michael547:
Bring your evidence against those translations

Check the Hebrews interlinear if you want to learn. It's grave. Not hell.

MaxInDHouse:
Except Jonah!

Show me the pit where Jonah went.

Michael547:
Which entity? Explain

I'm not here to teach you that!

I'm here to show you that spirits in prison were the souls of those who disobeyed the preaching of Noah according to Peter!

MaxInDHouse:
Revelations is not events that happened but prophecies to be studied and understood! Revelations 22:18-19

And what do prophecies do? They deceive events that will happen!

MaxInDHouse:
Grave means the realm of the dead that's why Jonah referred to the belle of whale as his own grave or hell:

Out of my distress I called out to Jehovah, and he answered me. Out of the depths of the Grave I cried for help. You heard my voice. Jonah 2:2 NWT

And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. KJV

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He said: “In my distress I called to the Lord, and he answered me. From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help, and you listened to my cry. NIV‬

Humble yourself and learn!

Grave is the pit. Everyone knows that .

Michael547:
Is soul and spirit the same?

They dwell in the same entity.

Michael547:
The blood of Abel also cried. So where does the Bible teach in Revelation and Genesis that it was a 'spirit' that was crying?

Genesis says blood cried.

Revelation said Souls cried.

So, what are you saying?

In both scenarios, dead people are active!

Michael547:
Which can rightly be translated as hades and hell according to the versions below
Ecc
9:10
Bible

Smith's Literal Translation
All which thy hand shall find to do, with thy
strength, do thou; for no work and
understanding and knowledge and
wisdom, in hades where thou goest there

Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Nope!