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Kobojunkie:
More like they were heckled as Christians by the Pagans around them at the time... some of them the very Romans who eventually hijacked the movement for their political and greed-driven religion of Christianity.

Jesus Christ described all religions, beginning with the one that came before him — Judaism— as that which is against the God of Israel and His person.

Tell us where Jesus Christ made such description. Prove to us that the Christianity was greed and politically driven before it was hijacked by the Romans.

Muurian:
Was there a group of people called Christians during the time of Jesus Christ?

You are just confusing yourself.

At least, His disciples were called Christians shortly after His departure.

Was there a group called Roman Catholics during the time of Jesus Christ?

Kobojunkie:
It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember?

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations?

He didn't send His disciples to the Israelites in all nations but ALL NATIONS . Israelites didn't scatter to all nations dear. Christ said the make disciples of ALL NATIONS, and not disciples of the Israelites in all nations!

Kobojunkie:
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No interpreting is needed at all when it comes to Scripture since you didn't have to learn the original greek language in other to read any of its contents, did you?

Jesus Christ Himself stated that the ones He was only sent to by His Father were those whom He regarded as sheep —the Lost sheep of Israel. He affirmed that all others were dogs— non-Isrealites —who do not have any right to that which is of God's mercy via David, even though they could have the crumbs that fell off the master's table.

It's actually a waste of time discussing with you at this your level of ignorance.

So, Jesus was sent to the house of Israel alone and others are dogs. Why did Jesus send His disciples to the dogs saying "Go make disciples of all nations"?

Kobojunkie:
I already quoted scripture to you but you rejected scripture. In Matthew 7 vs 6, Jesus Christ did say that giving that which is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelities— would only result in it being trampled. That explains why you refuse that which is written in order that you assert instead that which you prefer.

You and who interpreted 'the dogs to mean none Israelites?

Kobojunkie:
Your very own comment which I reposted earlier serves attempt to associate Jesus Christ with the Christian that you are is proof against you.

A screenshot of that comment should do. For now, you're lying about me. I never said Jesus was only sent to Christians!

2. Stop messing with your own head there.

Heed your own counsel!

3. You are lying! I said only people who are of the blood of Jacob can have a part in Jesus Christ. I didn't say that was the only requirement by the way. And I am almost certain you are not of the bloodline of the man called Jacob. No one who belongs to or knows Jesus Christ would adopt any religion since Jesus Christ made clear that religion is antiChrist - Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 & Matthew 15 vs 1 - 10.

Look at the bolded parts of your comment above and tell me if you do not need to see a doctor.

Can you quote out the scriptures where Christ made it clear that religion is antichrist? Also make me see the scriptures that say Christianity is a religion!

AntiChristian:
How was Muhammad a politician? I mentioned Democracy as disbelief not politics! Try and differentiate between the two before you brandish me a liar now!

Is democracy not part of politics? If democracy is disbelief, then autocracy is what? Are they not all politics?

You didn't include Holy Spirit can empower one person to kill thousands like Samson did!

Balderdash!

The Holy Spirit empowers you Tom fulfil any assignment God gives you. If you're a soldier by divine assignment like Samson was, you'll be empowered to excel in that assignment!

This doesn't hold water! If the Holy Spirit is God then the writings will be flawless. The scripture now contains opinions of one Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, etc which can't even be verified for authenticity!

Yes, the writings are flawless. You're the one who has flawed eyes to see flaws where there are none!

Did God breathed on the Bible as Book after total compilation or individually before the church fathers packaged them together?

And what about the apocrypha and other books not in your Protestant Bible?

Individually.

God's hand was on the Church fathers to canalize only God-breathed books. God didn't leave that business or collating the Bible to.satan!

AntiChristian:
I won't. I will only bind the accuser! If i accuse you of telling lies and you are sure of yourself do same!

Even if I do same, it does not prove your innocence man. You're the one who has an innocence to prove. Hypocrite!

The Jesus we know is consistent with what a Prophet and messenger of Allah should be. God forgives sins himself! He doesn't need anyone to help him die! He does not need a son to help him! He doesn't need himself divided into three persons! He does not need blood to save people!

If you call Muhammad ignorant i agree he was ignorant in matters not revealed to him till it was revealed to him!
I am also ignorant in matters of what i don't know!
Even Jesus was ignorant when he was asked of the Hour!

No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36

Tell me the hour now and let's see if you are not still ignorant of it like Jesus! Even with all your Holy Spirit you can't know it! All those who predicted it failed!

That's a fake Jesus!

If Mohammed would not know something, it shouldn't be such things as a spirit! He should stop calling himself a prophet!

Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! It is based on the claim you made in your previous comment!

I never made any such claims. Can you prove me wrong?

2. John 3 vs 14 - 18 & Matthew 6 vs 7 and Matthew 15 vs 20 - 28 made this abundantly clear.

You better quote out these verses so that I can expose you!

3. I am not the one here pretending to be of Jesus Christ. You are so you are the one to affirm to all that you who claim to know Jesus Christ are in fact of the bloodline of Jacob.

I am of the bloodline of Jacob already. You're the one who said only people like me have a part in Jesus. So, you must respect me for who I am.

sonmvayina:
Which thing you talk wey make sense?

You see, the words of the wise never make sense to those who lack wisdom.

Kobojunkie:
There's absolutely none to be found in all of Israelite Scripture, but that did not stop you from making the claim earlier.

So, in a nutshell, your accusation is based on what you think about us, and not on what we really say or do?

However, Jesus Christ of Israel instead made clear that the only people who have a part in him are those who are of the bloodline of Jacob— without this it is impossible to even approach Him— AND are born-again.

Can you quote where Jesus Christ said only those who are of the bloodline of Jacob have part in Him?

And before you waste your time unnecessarily, kindly note that I am of the bloodline of Jacob. I have a part in Him therefore, while you have no part according to your warped understanding. So, give me my respect!

MaxInDHouse:
You're wasting your precious time because he doesn't believe in either Jesus or Muhammad he's just seeking attention from believers of both books!

Thank you.

AntiChristian:
Yes if the lie is not deliberate and you are telling lies on me then may you be cursed! May you be judged wrongly as you are judging me right now! You are the accuser not me! So you should say Aamen!

Mtcheww. Hypocrite!

If you're sure of yourself, bind yourself with your curse and say amen!

Spiritual relationship with someone you don't know? Abeg! You Christians are full of errors! Your brains have been removed and something else have been used to replaced it. I was like that before but Alhamdulillah! It's been a fruitful journey!

Crass ignorance!

If we don't know Jesus, you're the one who knows Him or your ignorant mohammed who did not even know what a spirit is?

sonmvayina:
You watch too many Disney junior and Nollywood movies,
How you want take get sense?

That's actually applicable to you!

AntiChristian:
It is false as i saw no Muslim pray for anybody! It's not even our business! Democracy is disbelief in Islam! Who prays for such? We only pray generally May Allah grant us good leaders! And we obey whoever leader is appointed! Many Pastors predicted Obi would win! Maybe your GO is Adeboye or his associates who are related to the first lady as a RCCG member! And what's Christian about Kamala? Don't they promote LGBT and the likes over there? Abeg....!

Mohammed himself was a politician. Muslims do more politicking than Christians especially in Nigeria here. The Church is just waking up politically. Don't tell me that politics is disbelief in Islam. There's no proof of such from the life of your prophet and from the lives of you his followers.

I don't think i can ever understand! Since it is written in Greek!

What's the difference if God is involved in a Book and God wrote it himself?
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness. 2 Timothy 3:16!

What does God-breathed mean?

Yes, you can never understand because you're only sworn to criticize and not to learn. Those who criticize would find damnation but those who learn would find Truth.

"God Breathed" is a physical expression of a spiritual phenomenon. When the Spirit of God is in you, He stirs you occasionally into certain actions. You'll feel it in your breathing. As you breathe, it's like Someone within you is breathing along with you and giving you ideas and the impetus to do something important. You're stirred up, either to preach, write, pray, fast, heal the sick, make spiritual declarations or do anything that is in the mind of God for you - a divine assignment. Anyone with the indwelling Presence of the Holy Spirit can relate.

In the case of the writers of the Bible, they were stirred up to write accounts about the life of Jesus. They had to then research, gather knowledge and write what they know. The Holy Spirit guides them to write what THEY KNOW to be the truth even if they themselves were vulnerable. That is why Bible writers can include their personal failures in their narrations even though they're ashamed of themselves for such failings. Yet, they must obey the Holy Ghost. An example is John going to fish when he was supposed to be preaching the Gospel.

After writing the book truthfully to the best of your knowledge, God breathes on it, and that's when such a book written by man can profit the spirit of man.

Now, for example, whenever I feel spiritual hunger in my spirit, I'll take up the Bible and read. The more I uncover deep revelations, the more fed and energetic I feel in my spirit. What I read has profited my spirit because the breathe of God is upon it.

Meanwhile, if I take any other book in my experience, such as the book of Maccabees for instance. I could read several chapters and the spiritual hunger would still remain. Yeah, the book was truthfully written but because it has not got the breathe of God upon it, it is just like any other book. A story book.

In the same manner, the entire Bible is just like any other story book to anyone whose spirit has not been made alive by Christ. If you're not born again, you cannot interact with the Spirit of God in the Bible. Your spirit is dead. It has no life, and therefore cannot perceive the touch of God.

To profit from the Bible, you need to be made a living soul by being born again. Then, your spirit being made alive by Christ can relate with the spirit realm and be able to perceive the breathe of God or the touch of God on the pages of Scripture. Otherwise, the Bible is just another story book to you!

AntiChristian:
You are the one pressing me for lies! I made a mistake and i opened up after you mentioned it. I corrected it. You kept on pressing! Say Aamen if you are sure i was telling lies? Shebi your John said Jesus said as you Judge so also you will be judged!

I have said it was not a mistake and that the lie was deliberate. You wanted another person to take responsibility for your actions and issued a curse. Curse yourself to prove your innocence, you started giving excuses. Hypocrite!

Chai! See Lamba that makes sense!

You don't know God, and infact, you're actually in gross error for thinking that a physical relationship with Jesus is more important than a spiritual relationship with Him.

AntiChristian:
Was this revealed to you by the Holy Spirit? May you be cursed if i DIDN'T DELIBERATLY LIE in the said post! Say aamen! I think that should settle it.

You should curse yourself instead to prove your innocence. Hypocrite! And whatever curse you place on yourself will surely stand!

How many years did he know Jesus to write about him in details? And was he writing about Jesus in John 1:1 downwards?

In John 1:1 downward, He wrote what he knew about Jesus in His 50yrs of walking with Him in the spirit.

In the rest of the book, he wrote about what he knew of him for the 3 and half years of him being with Jesus.

AntiChristian:
Which kind nonsense be all this? Didn't Christians pray for Obi here too? Did he win? It just shows how far you can go to spread falsehood! Truth is truth no matter how much you overlook it. Even if a pagan states the truth i will affirm the truth and stand by it.

No, Christians were devided here. Infact, my own G.O plainly announced Tinubu as his preferred candidate. Some Christians prayed for Obi, some prayer for Tinubu. In the united states, Christians united and even matched to the Whitehouse to pray. That's the difference. Did Tinubu not rally some bishops around him? Christians didn't unanimously choose obi as you want us to believe. My assertion still stands.

I never said it matters! What i am saying is that at least one or more reports is erroneous and false!

None is false. You don't understand what was written.

So how did Judas die exactly?

I already told you.

[quoted]If God were to write the Bible by Himself...? Didn't you say the Holy Spirit was involved? Is that not God?[/quote]How does God being involved equals God writing by Himself?

AntiChristian:
sonmvayina, no mind am o! He was not able to debunk any lie! What he does is to merge all the Gospels together and call them all the truth!

If i ask him this below


His response will be that the two narrations happened to Judas and was reported differently whereas the two are unrelated!

You need to even unite with sonmavyina, a pagan to disparage the Bible. You're a pagan too anyway, you're just disguising. This makes me remember how witches in the USA and Muslims around the world united together to enthrone Kamala Harris against the Choice of Christians. Muslims prayed. Witches cast their spells. Christians prayed, and Trump won. You and witches and all the pagans of this world can unite, the Word of God will still stand.

The things you wrote up there do not matter to Christianity. Whether Judas bought a field or he cast out the money, our salvation does not depend on it.

However, there's a prophecy regarding Judas, and a careful look at Matthew's account explicitly fulfills that prophecy. Hence, if you are desirous of knowing exactly what happened in that story, go for Mathew s account.

If God was to write the Bible by Himself, there'll be only one account. But since God used many men, you can compare between what they wrote to find exactly what happened.

Judas bought the field with the proceeds of wickedness, not from what he made by betraying Jesus but from what he made by various wickedness which he had wrought, for he was known to be a thief.

AntiChristian:
Everyone but not you! Everything is correct inasmuch as it is in the Bible! That's your law!

Hahaha, don't change the focus of the comment. You lied and quickly made a U turn when you were exposed!

Narration of a biography with details and accuracy is different from teaching maths! Stop comparing oranges to Apples!

Teaching maths is not different from teaching history or teaching the life of a person as in our context. The point is that John will not forget the life of the person whom he talks about every day for 50yrs.

Practicing Jesus does not stop the Biography written by John to be erroneous! Was John present when Jesus was born till he reached 30? When exactly did John meet Jesus?

And John didn't write about those days when he was not present with Jesus. Or would you tell me what John wrote about Jesus before 30?

So if you claim John is the most right then others should be wrong in what they differ!

I have told you that if you have any confusion, go to John for clarification.

The closest report to an event is usually the most authentic but even Mark has it's own errors!

Mark was not an eye witnesses.

Those petty things you hang on don't matter to Christians. They have to matter to Islam because you claim your Quran was descended from heaven and written by Allah. Hence, any human limitations in your Quran like the Mary the sister of Aaron is Jesus mother nonesense or the Samaritan with Moses lies, is enough to disqualify your book.

These are the things that can destroy Christianity:

1. If you can prove that Jesus never died. His death is significant for the purification of our souls.

2. If you can prove that Jesus never resurrected. His resurrection is significant to the redemption of souls.

3. If you can prove that Jesus is not coming back a second time. His return is significant for our eternal rewards and fruits of our salvation.

AntiChristian:
I don't watch videos!
So since you mentioned me on it try and transcribe what is said here with references!

I am always praising the works of my Prophet as he was sent by Allah!
You don't need to remind me of that!

If the praise of your prophet is that important to you, you'll go the extra mile to watch the videos that talk about his works even though you won't watch other videos.

sonmvayina:
Yes it is...
I stand by it..
You have seen why I say it is superior,the bible is full of contradiction and misinformation,

So, whose gospel are you preaching?

Nobody has seen any contradiction and misinformation. All the lies of the OP has been debunked.

Your lies too will be debunked as they were debunked in your previous interactions with me.

Hey, I cast out devils in the name of Jesus and I bind the demons whom you pagans worship. Witches tremble at my presence and cannot stand the word of God when I utter it out with fire. How then does ifa stand superior to the Bible when the same ifa tells you to appease witches and demons whom I bind with my words from the Living Scriptures?

AntiChristian:
You should transcribe in words if you dare and let me see!

That's why i give references for you to fact check and I'll correct whenever i misquote!

Prophet Muhammad was not sent to the world as a scientist like Isaacs Newton, the father of Mechanics and Calculus, or Michael Faraday, the Father of Electricity, or Graham Bell, the Father of Telecommunication, or Nicholas Tesla!

Just as Jesus, John, Moses, Abraham, etc. and other Prophets too were not scientists!

What evil exactly have I said that you want me to transxtibe in words? Tell me exactly the evils I must have said regarding the video. Or is it evil to call you to come praise the works of your prophet?

AntiChristian:
That moniker dey vex you?
Or na the religion dey vex you?

If you sabi your onions you don't need to mention that especially when you are asked about your Bible!

Did I mention that in all my posts about the Bible?

Someone was telling you why you're acting so desperate to disparage the Bible, and I commented that he might be correct. You came to ask an unrelated question about you mentioning Islam here. Then turn around to ask if the region or Monika vexed me when I was only answering your question.

AntiChristian:
If i deliberately lied will i correct it?

Yes you will. Everyone corrects his lies when he's put to public shame and he has no further means of defending the lies.

The Gospel of John was the last of the Gospels written over 50 years after Jesus left this world! Is this what you are telling me to go and find my answers in? Even if you are told to narrate a story that happened 50 years ago when you are around 70 how much accuracy will you still possess? And Matthew met Jesus in Matthew 9:9. Though the reporting suggests Matthew was not the one writing!

The Salvation of the People is dependent on God's word and His Prophet! Through the times, people have been saved by the believe and obedience to the Torah and other scriptures send to them!

Of course now. He was actively practicing what he knew of Jesus during those 50yrs. Are you telling me that someone who studied mathematics 50yrs ago and continued to teach maths for 50yrs after graduation would not be able talk the truth about maths?

John did not only learn Jesus, he practiced Jesus and was a 'Professor' of Jesus for that matter if I might use the word. He knew Jesus both physically and spiritually. A man who walked with Jesus in the flesh for 3 and half years and still walked with Him in the Spirit for 50yrs has a lot to offer about Jesus.

The other disciples instructed John to write, after his writing, they reviewed it and recommended his book as being authentic:

John 21:24

"This disciple is the one who testifies to these events and has recorded them here. And we know that his account of these things is accurate."

Above are not the words of John but the testimony of other disciples after reviewing what John wrote.

MightySparrow:
Among those that walked through the planet earth, Prophet Mohammed (SAW), the leader of mankind did so many things for humanity. Out the countless things only five are discussed here..He is in no comparable to Isaacs Newton, the father of Mechanics and Calculus, or Michael Faraday, the Father of Electricity, or Graham Bell, the Father of Telecommunication, or Nicholas Tesla and many great minds whose inventions have changed the quality of life of mankind.

The videos here highlight some of the important things Mohammed introduced to change the life of humanity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jcnext45w?si=H3oCKbsppdNb8mEu


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd7qeEvSE2w?si=8kJVcekeSb8chKv7

You will agree with the brother in this video that Mohammed is the gift of Allah to mankind.

cc: Antichristian , Acholardey, Emusan, adeoyekay, GothamCities, ANTIlSLAM, advocatejare
All Muslims in the house.

Antichristian, time to praise your prophet for his numerous good works.

sonmvayina:
You are trying to make Mark look like Luke...it does not work that way
At the end of the day whose gospel are you preaching?

This question is coming to me from someone who says Ifa is superior to the Bible. Lol.

AntiChristian:
Did i mention Islam here?

You guys with preempting others upon falsehood!

How can he correct?
Did i mention Islam in any of my post you've seen?

You will always be the first to mention it.

Do you need to mention Islam? You're a Muslim and your Monika is antichristian. That's enough for anyone to talk about your Islam.

MaxInDHouse:
It's OK, my friend is trying really hard to find out why his people chose Islam that's why he's always seeking validation for the religion that was handed over to him by his parents but he doesn't know how to go about it.

Lol.

You might be correct.

Antichristian is looking for validation for his Islam because he himself doesn't know why his parents handed him the religion.

22jumpstreet:
So it was not a significant event to John for him to forget about it. And Mark said it was Peter James and John that was there...such an event should have featured predominantly in John's account....but alas, it's not there...me think all these Gospels was written by anonymous authors.

If John didn't feature it, it's because it didn't come to his mind AT THE TIME HE WAS WRITING. If you've ever written a book , you'll understand. Was Mark lying? If mark was lying, Peter would not have independently mentioned the event much later in his epistles. Even Peter didn't provide details. The Gospel is not for show.

"16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount."

1Peter 1:16-18

22jumpstreet:
How did John miss the transfiguration of Jesus if it was written by an eye witness?
The transfiguration was only recorded by mark...or it that not a significant event??
Why?
Waiting patiently for your response.

Even John said He didn't write everything that happened in Jesus's life on earth. He wrote what he remembered as at the time he was writing.

Mark wrote about the transfiguration, and Peter also spoke about it later in one of his epistles.

Muurian:
Lol. How do you know, and you are telling me to study church history. So, in other words, which history? Pentecostals history or Catholic history?

Was there any Pentecostal or Catholic church until 300 AD? I even gave you a starting point from Constantine, yet you're here laughing ignorantly.

My friend, did Jesus the foundation of Christianity do any of the things the Catholics are doing? The last apostle of Jesus to die was John the Beloved. He lived to be about 94 years old, and died around 100 AD. 200yrs later, the Roman government came into the church and it became Roman Catholic. They imported all those pagan stuff into the Church? Or did you hear of any Roman Catholic in the days of Jesus and the apostles? The Romans brought it strange practices and a strange Gospel. Not Jesus, not the Apostles.

Tell me if Jesus did all those things you do. Tell me if any of the apostles did them. Even if you do not want to go by Church History, why are doing things that are entirely alien to the founders of the Christian faith?