uchman:


Explain bro
You just write equation
Have you forgotten that we are still in Nija?

(Nmax - Nattained/Nmax - Nlowest) x 3 +1.

Where

Nmax = Highest possible GPA to get (5 for university and 4 for polytechnic)

Nattained = The GPA you graduated with

Nlowest = Lowest possible GPA for a pass (usually 1)

I am sure, you can now use your simple Mathematical skill to do the computation by yourself using your own personal GPA as Nattained

englishgirl55:

Pls tell us your exact experience, where u category A or B

Finally booked A.
Category issues started with our set.
I initially booked category B but because it was taking too long, I canceled it and booked category A and even clicked that I had scholarship while I didn't have.
I was invited for interview within three days of booking category A and no issues at all. (I am not advising anyone to play such gamble because things are getting tougher now and you have a very high percentage of being kicked out if you try such now)
Another guy in my group also canceled his own and booked under category A and he was bounced back for booking a wrong category.
You have to know that this German Waka na by head.
It's always advisable to book the right category to avoid being sent back home from the embassy

lola80:
How do we converting from Nigeria grading system please

(Nmax - Nattained/Nmax - Nlowest) x 3 +1.

This is a typical exam task of a typical German university.
After doing the task, you prepare to present it before the two lecturers handling the course.
So you must be ready to study if your aim is to come to Germany otherwise you hear am sharp sharp.
Anaghịkwa asị ndo na Germany.
By now you also must have heard that in most schools, you are not allowed to fail one course more than three times.
All these information like I said is not to scare anyone but to prepare your mindset.
I was also properly informed before coming

IMustWin:

Hmmm! This grading system na die ooo.
Plz do they have Continuous Assessment (CA)?
How is it like?
Generally, how is their exams like? Obj, German questions, Practicals or Theory?
Plz enlighten the house!

Depending on your school.
Germany has two types of tertiary institutions.
1. University of Applied sciences (Fachhochschule)
2. Technical universities.

University of Applied sciences is more of practical while Technical universities is more of research but also have incorporated practicals depending on the course.
I am a student of RWTH Aachen University (technical university) and here it's really tough.
There is nothing like continous assessment in most German technical universities or even quiz or test as you may call it. They just tell you what to do and when you do it within the specified period, they grade your performance over 100%.

Some exams are just presentation and report writing, and you already know before now that Germans are generally not easy to please because here quality is a watch word and you must really do quality things to earn quality marks.
I have almost 30 courses to do throughout the duration of my MSc program and in all these courses, it's just 11 written exams.
All others are presentations, Practicals and report writing

For those still expecting appointment dates, be patient, it will come.
We experienced same thing last year during our time.
Attached in this post is the German grading scale not to scare you but for you to look into and prepare your mindset before coming.

German grading system for tertiary institutions.

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0yewale:


I think it will really make more sense if you can point out the terrible parts of what I shared, so that others can contribute and everyone can learn (I guess that is the whole point of this platform/thread).

Most of the people contributing here are already in Germany, either studying or done and already working, so I really don't get what you mean as regards the bold.

PS: Done with my study too, now working and all I have shared thus far are based on personal experience which might not be 100% same for everybody.

Don't be discouraged by the comment. You are really doing a nice job

ibrahimovic303:
That reindeer na that man hustle oh ...I paid €10 for the reindeer to tow me around this lovely tourist town; met lots of Americans, Japanese, Brits and Australians...gatz enjoy this cos next christmas will definitely be in Lagos

Waooooooo. See as snow cover everywhere.
Snow no wan fall for Germany o o o o o o o

mychellin:

Then in addition, I will like to learn Python programming (data analysis which is needed in my field later) but I don't really know how to start since I don't have any damn programming skills apart from the C++ boring course we did in my BSc level where the lecturer was writing codes on the board

Great idea. I started learning Python here due to certain constraint with my internship job search. I had no knowledge of CS from background. But God has been helpful. Here is a land that requires what you can do for the system before any consideration. You can start free course online with below. Search for sololearn python certificate.

https://www.sololearn.com/Play/Python/#

Thanks so much. I have bought Python course on Udemy and even installed the App and Pycharm app in my laptop

onecoder:

I currently work as an android developer without a CS degree in Nigeria. Though I plan applying for an IT course in Germany.
I learnt Java while participating in Udacity android basics and android developer nanodegree.
I believe there are numerous resources to learn Java online.
There is a course on udemy by imtiaz Ahmad, which was helpful and you can get a study guide for OCAJP on amazon.com too.
I don't necessarily subscribe to starting over with a bsc. You can apply for apprenticeship software developer positions in Germany. Some don't require CS degree.
There are courses on compilers like the one from Stanford online too. You just need to google and whatever CS topic you want to learn. You can always get a book.

Thanks, I just bought Python on Udemy (The Complete Python Masterclass: Learn Python from Scratch) and its really wonderful. I also went through our course modules and discovered that Python/Matlab will be actively used in three courses and prior knowledge is desired to pass the courses though they will briefly introduce it for beginners. Right now, I don't wanna learn many programming language. I just wanna learn Python and be very good at it

MarkGud:


wow, great. which sch?

It's free in my school but not free outside school

MarkGud:


500 Euro per level?

From A2 to B1.
I will complete A1 by the end of January or beginning of February

janettee:


Hello, this seems like a great idea . If I were you, I would focus solely on the German course during that 6 months. If you are going to work, let it be part-time. It's easy to get distracted during semester break.

There are many resources to learn programming online. I can't advice you on which one to use.

You are right. If you are not careful, the love of money will make you spend more time working which I never want

This thread is indeed very powerful.
I will likely take a semester break next semester and focus on learning Deutsch to B1 level within 6 months from A1 level I am now.
I need the language like crazy now.
I have already seen the school and it will cost me 500 Euros.
Then in addition, I will like to learn Python programming (data analysis which is needed in my field later) but I don't really know how to start since I don't have any damn programming skills apart from the C++ boring course we did in my BSc level where the lecturer was writing codes on the board

Hello everyone,
I finally met with the career adviser of my school, a young and beautiful lady.
She asked me why I want to leave a prestigious school like RWTH Aachen University to start a BSc program at 29yrs old?
I told her that I want a degree with which I can easily get professional job after graduation, a degree that has more opportunities in Germany and that's why I want to change to computer science.
She said that there are opportunities in my course and most courses in Germany if I possess the right skills and speak the langauge well, that I don't necessarily need to start afresh from BSc. That even if I want to go into IT field, I should learn the skills of interest somewhere in Germany or even online while still undergoing my MSc program, that German companies usually employ you base on what you can do and that's why you see graduates of Microbiology working in the IT firm simply because they possess the right skills.
She said that RWTH Aachen university is among the best schools in Germany with all the facilities at my disposal to learn and become an employable person and also has a good link to the industry, that I shouldn't waste that opportunity.
She asked me if I have started learning German langauge and I said yes, she replied ''TOLL, if you learn at least one level every semester, that will be atleast B2 before 2 years which meets up the entry requirement of all vacancies''
She ended the discussion by saying that Germany welcomes everyone but selects the good ones, that if I want to be selected, I must be good in what I do.

I have never seen a young girl such wise and calm in speech.
I think I will book another appointment with her sef

Anybody in any of these four schools and programs?

1. Computer Science
(Frankfurt University of Applied Sciences)
2. Information Engineering
(Hamburg University of Applied sciences)
3. Computer Science
(ULM University of Applied sciences)
4. Communication and Information Engineering
(Rhine-Waal University of Applied Sciences)

0yewale:


You have 10 years to study as a foreign student in Germany the last time I checked. A BSc will take you an average of 2.5 - 4 years (pretty sure you won't be doing studienkolleig), Unless you have already used 3 years to study MSc and still want to do PhD, so most time, people still have enough time. If you have the grit, you can even finish earlier ...and if the BSc is even IT, you will gather enough work experience before you graduate to make smooth transition into the main employment market. Personally, the only con I know is the "shame" attached, that is if you care though..

The issue here is our mentality, you left Nigeria for MSc, completed or half way done ...only to now switch to another BSc. .. you sef reason am.. how e go sound for ear? how you go take table am for friends/families back at home(in NG)? but the reality is, your life is your life, every other thing/body will follow you as soon as you take any decision. Switching, terminating or pausing programs is kinda new to our culture as it looks like failure but I know of non-Nigerians, Germans that have done each of the three.


If you are making a switch to IT.. you should prioritize applied science schools though..

This guy is smart.

MarkGud:


I have same thought after i went for job seminar where companies sent representatives and in all I noticed 70% if not more of the companies represented searched for candidates in I.T field for opportunities ( full time jobs, internship, working student etc). It got to me that opportunities abound in IT sector in Germany. Also, I know a couple of naija guys in my Uni undergoing their 2nd MSc and I felt why do MSc upon MSc instead of switching to a more 'marketable' field. I engaged some of them and feedback was "doing BSc again? & considering the duration". I seriously have asked the pros and cons of doing such and no concrete progress made. I hope someone with a broad view helps out and[b] leme know the out come after u have met the advisory council. Regards[/b]

Alright, I will meet her by 11am on 17th December and will share with you the outcome

0yewale:


The insight you have managed to gathered in just your less than three months is what the person in the link at the end of your post arguably missed during his days in DE. I know it is not easy to make sharp decisions like this one you are about to make but regardless of what the counselor will tell you (he or she will most likely advise from a German perspective), you have already discovered your truth, just GO FOR IT.

The advise I personally give to people (new students) nowadays is, if you are not studying anything related to "Informatics", just make sure you get to at least B2 or B1 level before you graduate, to even stand a chance unless your plan is PhD or to move to another country. I have more than enough friends that are doing or have done second MSc. Because your most important skill in Germany is the language, just that it is less important for IT jobs (not that it is not).

My few advise here (personal opinion though):
1. if age is still on your side (maybe < 25yrs), go for the BSc, the process is largely the the same as stated by the schools you are going (just that Visa hustle is out of it.) If you consider age to not really be on your side, with the evolution of Industry 4.0 - a fusion of informatics to other (engineering) areas, which is a very big topic in Germany. You might be able to get a MSc program that fuses both your Engineering/Geo with IT .. and you learn along (might be tough but also worth it). If you put in the work, you can still nail at least an IT entry role after your study.

A former colleague (A Medical Dr.), we met at a Health-Tech company, took the Medical Informatics MSc in Deggendorf and still works as a Data Scientist there. I (Chemical Engineer) even though with previous experience as a Software Engineer in NG before coming to DE had to switch to IT related program(Digital Engineering MSc) - after 'investing' two semesters studying MSc Chemical Engr. before "my eye open" which has now led me to IT positions in few of the biggest firms in DE .. during and after my study.

So, if you search very well, you might be able to get something along that line as a lot of such programs are popping up and if you take/have online IT tutorials and certifications (programming, data analysis etc.) that can aid your application.

2. I saw that you mentioned Electrical and Electronics Engineering as option... biko, I am begging you to not consider that at all (it is largely same same...) ..if you are going to make the switch... kuku ma go Informatics straight o.. unless you have it in mind to have your B2 before you finish your program.

3. When you are choosing your school, if possible prioritize the one(s) in or closer to states/cities with growing startup ecosystem .. they have more low hanging entries than where you have more of the big German coys.

(not really sure about your insinuation about this part but..)
Permanent Residency is a function of your contributions: tax, social, welfare etc. to the system and because if you are earning enough to get a Blue Card, that contributions will be better and faster and that is why you can get your PR faster with Blue Card than someone holding the normal residence. Also, the earning requirement for Blue Card is not the same across all profession e.g for IT is about 53k or so while for Scientist/Researchers is about 40k and for IT .. you will need about 3 yrs working experience to earn up to that (personal evaluation though).

Best wishes in whatever conclusion you arrive at.

Thanks for your wonderful response.
I am not less than 25yrs, I am 29.
I am also currently enrolled for German course alongside my studies. Well my final decision on that will be taken this year.

BelieverDE:


Why do you want to switch program, Goztino?

I actually studied Geophysics and I plan on contacting you and Basalt when the time is right.

Why do you want to jettison your program for a Bsc in Germany?

How about you transfer to RWTH Aachen University? Your course of study- Applied Geophysics is a joint Master's program with ETH Zürich (Switzerland) and TU Delft (Netherlands).

Be a active member in EAGE (European Association of Geoscientists and Engineers) as well as other associations -SEG and SPE. SEG now receives applications for her Travel Grant to attend the SEG international conference and this is open to graduate students. Apply for it and broaden your horizons; connect with Researchers and top guys in the industry. If your passion is not anything related to the oil and gas industry, you could still find yourself opportunities in the Geothermal Energy Resources in Germany. Geophysicists also find themselves opportunities in the telecommunication industry due to their programming skills.


If I may ask, why do you want to switch your program?

Nice points.
First of all, I have not said I want to switch over to BSc program, I just asked if anyone has done it but honestly I am thinking towards that direction, I have already booked an appointment with the career advisor department in my school and the outcome of the appointment will finalize my thought. As you already know, I am currently in RWTH doing the Applied Geoscience MSc program and everything is moving perfectly well because I flow with the lectures and I make money too (I am just over 2 months in Germany). I understand the courses and I am aware of the joint geophysics program which is only 1,000 Euros per semester in case you don't know.
That's apart.
Now coming to your question why do you want to switch to a BSc course
I think of switching to BSc in computer science or information engineering or electrical and electronics engineering this time in a university of applied science which is more practical oriented and encompasses long period compulsory internship programs in their studies.
In the university of applied science, they are not deep into research and theories, they are deep into practical and train students for the industry. I am someone that wants to work in the industry and won't like doing a Ph.D. without any work experience after Msc.
Here in Germany, companies don't care much about your good result, they care about your skills and internship experience is highly indispensable in your CV while seeking for employment in the industries. Now most Geology students graduate without going for internships because there are very few companies who advertise for internships for Geologists. In fact, honestly, there are very few companies who need the services of Geologists in Germany unless your area of specialization is Engineering Geology which unfortunately is all done in the German language. If you think I am not saying the truth, you can do a quick research about it using your computer or asking those that have graduated in any German university.
Geologists have much opportunities in countries with abundant mineral resources and crude oil like Nigeria, Australia, America, Canada, Norway, Saudi Arabia and even at that, getting into the oil industry is not always easy because most Geology graduates want to work there thereby making entry very competitive.
You made mention of going to conferences and getting a connection with those already in the industry, now let me ask you a question and I want you to be honest with me.
I am happy you are a Geologist too, how many connections did you make during NAPE conference in Nigeria that gave you job? Here in Germany, they don't have much oil. They are more into manufacturing and production. I know you will say what of Canada, UK, and America? You can as well go there and search for jobs?
The fact remains that doing MSc in a different country and getting job in another country is very very difficult because you need a resident permit of that country and even a work permit to get job there. Now, how will you be in Germany and get a resident permit and work permit of Canada and USA for them to offer you jobs?

Are there no graduates from that country who are ready to fill the limited vacancy?
Why should they leave those graduates to employ someone without a resident and work permit? Unless you are the only one that has what they need which is not always the case.
Most people here in most courses start another MSc programs just to continue staying in Germany but to me instead of doing multiple MSc upon Msc, I rather save the energy and start in a field that won't make me do so many Msc just to hang around on the fence. I know some are unemployed because of inability to speak the language up to B2 level but the fact still remains that in some departments you don't have to battle much before landing a professional job.
Getting a part time job is easy but getting a professional job-ready to pay you up to the needed amount for your Blue card (Permanent residency) is not easy to come about especially for a Geologist.
You should know that without a professional job here you don't have a root unless you marry a German.
If I may ask, why do you want to switch your program?
I am thinking of building a career in a field that has unlimited opportunities everywhere in the world in other to have a high probability of getting a professional job offer that will enable me to process my permanent residency after graduation and not start doing another masters in the same course with the aim to continue staying in Europe
The decision is not yet concluded until I visit the career advice department, they have already given me an appointment for that after writing to them
CC
RealFirstLady

For a better idea of what is going on in most cases read the below article though I must confess the guy exaggerated it when he brought racism into it.
https://www.nairaland.com/5185821/should-move-uk-return-nigeria

Xup everyone. It's few days to Christmas and I wish you all the best.

Germany is indeed a very good country and I keep falling in love with it daily.


Has anyone changed from a masters program to a Bsc program in a totally different department here?
If yes, send me a PM let's discuss.

Basalt:
any site to watch football online?
please help.
I have unlimited access to the internet but dont know any site to use to watch football

Please I also need a site too

chimax1:
Really concerned about the feedback am getting from friends in DE about the job situation. A friend has been there since March, no job till now, another since winter 2018, still no job. They have both been vigorously applying. Makes me wonder, is it really all worth it? I know the first aim of going is to study but side hustle is very important too to keep body and soul together.

chimax1:
Aachen and madgeburg,

This post almost discouraged me from choosing RWTH because I was afraid I wouldnt get part time job, God being great, I got job exactly one month of stepping my foot in Germany.
I entered Germany (RWTH Aachen University) on 20th September and signed my job contract on 20th of October. Na God na em dey help person for Deutschland and if He wan help you He go help you wherever you dey

Awani007:



Bro does ur school accept EPL?

Nein.
You might apply and get admission with EPL but you need IELTS Cert. for your enrolment

MY FIRST LECTURE EXPERIENCE IN GERMANY

Today, our lecture officially started by 10:30 am with a course that is very sweet to the ear.
Na me first come class, even before 10 am, traced the lecture hall and sat down in the front row (each lecture has lecture class where it will be held and as a stranger, you have to trace it earlier to avoid missing the lecture).

The Lecturer arrived the hall 20mins before the lecture started (German's don't joke with time) and used our enrollment list to select people for group one according to when each person register for the course, I was among the first group, others were told to come back later for their own class.

Omo ehh, he introduced the course and say make everybody put on his or her computer, He shared something wey dey like flash but smaller in size to everyone and told us to all plug it in the CPU beside each computer and he started lecturing, the class involves teaching with a software.

Everything was so strange to me and he was damn fast, as he was teaching. I was expecting a handout and normal dictation but saw slides and software instead. I became hooked at a point, and looked into the system of one guy beside me, he is also a Nigerian, I wanted to use his own method to probably correct myself but I noticed that he was even struggling to login to the computer sef let alone doing the needed task, other white students dey busy dey work for number three while I no even sabi how to get to number two.
As the thing hook me too much, I call the graduate assistant and he helped me out.

I noticed that their system of education is totally different from ours and more practically oriented. One really needs additional work to do in other to scale through efficiently

MY FIRST LECTURE EXPERIENCE IN GERMANY

Today, our lecture officially started by 10:30 am with a course that is very sweet to the ear.
Na me first come class, even before 10 am, traced the lecture hall and sat down in the front row (each lecture has lecture class where it will be held and as a stranger, you have to trace it earlier to avoid missing the lecture).

The Lecturer arrived the hall 20mins before the lecture started (German's don't joke with time) and used our enrollment list to select people for group one according to when each person register for the course, I was among the first group, others were told to come back later for their own class.

Omo ehh, he introduced the course and say make everybody put on his or her computer, He shared something wey dey like flash but smaller in size to everyone and told us to all plug it in the CPU beside each computer and he started lecturing, the class involves teaching with a software.

Everything was so strange to me and he was damn fast, as he was teaching. I was expecting a handout and normal dictation but saw slides and software instead. I became hooked at a point, and looked into the system of one guy beside me, he is also a Nigerian, I wanted to use his own method to probably correct myself but I noticed that he was even struggling to login to the computer sef let alone doing the needed task, other white students dey busy dey work for number three while I no even sabi how to get to number two.
As the thing hook me too much, I call the graduate assistant and he helped me out.

I noticed that their system of education is totally different from ours and more practically oriented. One really needs additional work to do in other to conform with them.

marcondo13:
First degree in no.1,about to complete double second degrees in numbers 1 and 2, and currently on Sustainable Materials under the European Institute of Technology.
Wetin man go do? Either you improve yourself or you perish!

Jeeeeeeeez. Chaiiiiiiiiiii.
Omo you sabi book ọ ọ ọ ọ.
Abeg I go like keep in contact with you, I will send you a Pm now.

marcondo13:
I will be there as one of the 13 paper presenters at the SPE German Section Student Technical Conference next month.

Waooooooo, that will be wonderful.
You must be from any of these fields?

1. A petroleum engineer,
2. Geoscientist
3. Mechanical Engineer
4. a Chemical Engineer

amikable97:



Well done and congratulations, I wish you all the best and I hope your stay in Germany will be fruitful..
Please once in a while try to stop by and show us some love here and we wey wan come over need a lot of encouragement and tips from you guys

Cheers


Ps: I hope say their food no dey make person purge

No wahala. It starts by having a dream of doing your MSc abroad, then developing the intense motivation to achieve your dream . When you have intense motivation, you will end up making some challenging moves that will take you to Deutschland by the special Grace of God.