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Mr_Anony: My guy, I am tired of explaining simple logic to you. If God is everything, then there really isn't a God rather you have yourself a synonym for the word "everything"

Lol either your level of understanding is flawed or your pretending ... How did you come about God = everything, equating to there really isn't a God.. is that what you call your logic ..

I think what you shoukd admit to and declare which you have failed to is that , the god of your imaginations that you have created, fear and worship out of ignorance DOES NOT EXIST or not ultimate reality but created in your mind.

^^^^ really.... btw even if you have not heard or seen, are you suggesting that it cant be "pulled" off by anyone esle( using your term)... speaking of pulling off do you believe Jesus was the only one to have risen from the dead?

^^^ no worries god brother

pastormustwacc: Here is my give and take on psychics:
All humans are potential psychics because they have souls. The soul does not need physical eyes to see, or physical ears to hear. However, some people "have" the ability to connect their mind to their souls - these are the set of people termed psychics. Whether they are prechosen, or anyone can learn to be a psychic or not is beyond the scope of my writing, we might need to research that one - i dont know too much astral sciences.

Concerning the stuffs about UFOs, well, i am not in agreement at all.

at bolded no they have CHOSEN to use their sixth sense.. you can too if you choose. do you?.. everything is a choice.. yes you might come here with some "gifts" through which to experience physicality BUT it doesnt mean that what others can do you are incapable of.. i tell you what tehre is nothing that jesus and other "masters" did that you cant do and even more if you choose.

Mr_Anony: Well my friend, all you have really succeeded in doing is reducing God to nothing.

what is really your understanding of nothing because you seem to think that nothing means non- existent.. reducing God to nothing? is it not the nothing from where the something springs forth? or in your mind like a lot of people erroneously think the nothing is better than the something?.. NOTHING IS NOT EQUAL TO DOES NOT EXIST..nothing is something with no propertioes does not mean non-existent... this is where your problem lies and we didnt really deal with it the last time becusse the discussion went on a different tangent but since it has been resurrected lets talk about it..

You have just worked out a way to call God everything but by doing this, God cannot be more powerful or more knowledgeable than anyone because essentially, we would all be God and therefore to say that God is more powerful than anything would be to say that God is more powerful than God which is logical nonsense.

of course "God" cannot be more powerful than anyone or anything.. BECAUSE there is nothing but God. there is only God. no one else...seperation is an illusion. there is only One of us that that individuated into the many.. the being you have chosen to call your "God" is more powerful than you becuase YOU SAID SO..but he is not powerful than you..you are God in amnesia always remember that if nothing else..

Likewise cannot be distinct from anything or have any characteristics that will help us identify Him as God.

the problem with this statement is you still in the illusion tht you are separate with God..

Also if we call God energy, God cannot then be infinite because energy is directly proportional to the amount of matter in existence and matter is not infinite.

lol this dude... is matter not made of energy? matter is Energy In- formation..does the law not say that energy can neither be created nor destroyed but simply changes form... is outer space "matter"? does it not contain energy. is the universe infinite or finite? does matter not break down to nothing? is the universe only consists of "matter" or energy?

ok too many questions but you get the drift.. if you believe in a finite universe then yes you could say matter is not infinite...but if the universe is infinite then matter cannot be finite..you need to learn to differentiate between observable and non observable..

I think you should really go back and ponder on the question "Who is God?"

i believe you should ... God is all there is and all that is.
God is not in the sky! but if i have to answer your question who is God?

well God is the energy you call image-ination....God is creation!.. Gos is first thought, last experience and everything in between.. God is more than you can image-ine. because i tell you what even the being of your understanding you have chosen to call "God" has a "God" which also has a God etc etc to infinity..will give you a scenario or example if you choose.

Billyonaire: All humans are psychic, cos we all are souls taking up physical form to learn new tricks on Earth. We are the aliens on Earth and the UFOs are the Reality back home who come to check on us. We are just here so psychic abilities are what enables us trace our way back home. Thank you.

dont take this the wrong way but everything you said is "false" or should i say not entirely true except your comments about psychics..

1. you are absolutely correct that all humans are psychic..becuase there is not a persson that does not have a psychic ability, there are only people or those that do not use it.
2. but you are not here to learn new tricks. there is nothing to learn. your soul knows all things..there is only to re-member. remember who you are. you are here to experience physicality and evolve which some of you have done a number of times through numerous life cycles and incarnations.. This is not the first time you have been here..

3. i dont know what you really mean by we are aliens and the UFOs are the reality back home, so you can explicate more on it and we can discuss it. BUT taken literally we are not aliens and the UFOs are not reality back home who come back to check on us..

4. you are not just here. you are here becuase you chose to be here.. but again just so i know we are on the same page i would like for you to explain what you mean by "home" before i say more on "home"... yes your sixth sense will and can help you get home but what home are you talking about..i am asking this becuase you alluded to UFOs coming from real home..

truthislight: i am not a trinitarian that is why it is easy to sort things out.

ok you failed to answer the question! i didnst ask you about trinity! we havent gotten to that..i ask you if you believe that God the father is equal to God the son or word.. oh and I disagree you sort things out easily..

truthislight: did not the bible say image of God? Did it say "essence" of God?

Na you sabi.

Then a gorilla is also in the essence of god.

first everything in its core is in the essence of God.. The true nature and essence of God is not its form. form is an illusiion. God can take on any form and all forms..in your purest form as a light being you can take on any form.. God is not a personification.. she/he/it is simply THE CREATOR. he created you in her image and likeness to create your world as God in flesh..image and likewise here means you are a microcosm of it..not necessarily the form. you were created with the creative power of the universe on your lips. you are a microcosm of her. like God you are a creator and you create your world from the power of your mind. like God your real essence is energy, a light being.. you have all the power of the universe in you... you just ignorant to it..

truthislight: well, the filament glows red via the action of the current.

But the current is not the filament.

So also the light from the bulb is neither the filament nor the current.

But the objective of bringing the filament and the current together is to get the light.

this ^^^ was the reason for the arrangement to get the light/soul.

again you are dancing
1. the filament glows red vai the action of the current..same way the lifeless body animates via the power of the spirit of God
2. yes we know and have established that the current is not the filamet just like the spirit is not the body or you are not your body.
3. yes light from the bulb is neither the filament nor current.. same way life or what you have chosen to call living soul here is not either the body or spirit but a combination of both body and power of the spirit is what brings the life as you know it..
4.(But the objective of bringing the filament and the current together is to get the light)..again we have established that..the objective of the spirit animating the body is to experience life in physicality..or be a living soul as you have termed it..

at this point either you refusing to acknowledge that you are God made man because of fear that your "god" will strike you for heresy or you really lack understanding...

truthislight: we are created in the image of God.

That is the mind we have/intelligence, other than that i dont know what extra ordinary thing we have that makes us special.

this is some nonsense you just uttered( excuse my language)borne out of extreme ignorance..

you just said we were created in the image of God. in other words the essence of God.. ie we have the same essence and nature that makes God who he/she/it is, and yet in the same sentence say, you don't think you are special or extraordinary.. wow.. yet you call this God powerful and worship her..see mockery..time to wake up god brother.

im on vacation and got some little free time so if he wants to play we will play

obadiah777: ARGUING WITH TRUTHISLIGHT IS LIKE ARGUING WITH A MENTALLY DEFICIENT CRETIN THAT NIGGA DONE LOST HIS MIND IN THE NINETIES HE IS A WALKING TALKING AND TYPING SHELL OF A PERSON

truthislight: now, it is God that sustain the man by its power, yes.

But the current is produce from the genset/turbine.

Just as the spirit is sent from the father.

The current is not the turbine.

The spirit is not God.

When Nepa takes its light the bulb, fan, tv etc that the current from the gen powered will not travelled back to the substation, it simply disconnects and the appliances goes down or dies out.



but the spirit of God is not God.

Unless you want to use the handle of the trinity that does not work here since that will make the current = the generator.

But we know it is the father that sends the spirit.

Please, dont call the father the generator o! Lol.

Just kidding.

another dancing around.. oh so now the spirit is not God? lol since you want to play semantics here lets play.. is God the father not equal to the son or word?

truthislight: the power(spirit) that animated the body belongs to God and it GOES back to God.

we agree on that no need to keep repeating...

Lets take an illustration from an electric bulb.

shall we

1. Lets call the body/mould = bulb(glass philament)

2. The light from emanating from the bulb = soul.

3. The current that energies the bulb = spirit/breath.

1. in other words body/mould= dust/adama/red clay/earth( like the bulb or glass filament all lifeless.. ok cool)
2. the light from emanating the bulb=the spirit animating the body/mould= soul ( check.. another agreement)
3.check..

Without the bulb and the current there will be no light(soul)

likeiwse without body/mould and the spirit of God there would be no soul

if any of the two (bulb or current is absent) is absent there will be no light.

If any of the two (mould or spirit is absent) is absent there will be no life/soul.

agreed.. at this point it is getting redundant

It takes the combination of the two to produce the soul, one of it on its own cannot.

ok

So, when the spirit being the power of God leaves the body and the mould goes back to the dust the soul cease to exist.

ok i am taking soul here to mean life or living soul..

When the power authority Nepa takes the current, where does the light from the bulb goes to?

Does the light enters the cable to travel to the substation?

the light goes out but the CURRENT which was producing the light in the bulb goes to the "source"( using source here to stay with the analogy)

If no, what happens to the light is what happens to the soul/life/ (light in the case of bulb), it simply cease to exist. = dead, no more life.

so, the main two things that was put together are the bulb and the breath(spirit) the source of power to power the mould.
Peace.

more redundacy but ok..


now my question...
do you agree or can you say going by your analogy(since the bulb filament was lightless or should i say lifeless before the current gave it light)then that a "lite bulb filament is CURRENT MADE LIGHT or The illumination is Current made light?..

^^^ lol dont worry i know he is pretending.. he is just afraid to say he is a god or God made man.. he probaly thinks he will miss heaven when he admitts to it..

^^^lol you are dancing again..what do you take me a fool? .. The analogy you just gave, we've past that stage!!.. its the same conclusion we arrived at this time using bulb and current.. you still haven't answered the question that i asked.. lol

truthislight: the power(spirit) that animated the body belongs to God and it GOES back to God.

Lets take an illustration from an electric bulb.



1. Lets call the body/mould = bulb(glass philament)

2. The light from emanating from the bulb = soul.

3. The current that energies the bulb = spirit/breath.

Without the bulb and the current there will be no light(soul)

if any of the two (bulb or current is absent) is absent there will be no light.

If any of the two (mould or spirit is absent) is absent there will be no life/soul.

It takes the combination of the two to produce the soul, one of it on its own cannot.

So, when the spirit being the power of God leaves the body and the mould goes back to the dust the soul cease to exist.

When the power authority Nepa takes the current, where does the light from the bulb goes to?

Does the light enters the cable to travel to the substation?

If no, what happens to the light is what happens to the soul/life/ (light in the case of bulb), it simply cease to exist. = dead, no more life.

so, the main two things that was put together are the bulb and the breath(spirit) the source of power to power the mould.
Peace.

^^^^ was that an answer to my question? Really.. are you really that scared to think and admit that you are God made man?.. even though the bible that you zealouisly and vehemently believe in ,albeit some of the outright lies, makes quite clear?..

truthislight: this is like asking me if dust is lifeless?

Ofcouse, the mould was from dust and as such lifeless.

To you, is dust lifeless?

The bible says it is the power of God that ignited the mould to life = the spirit, and the life is sustain by breathing.

ok good so we getting somewhere..
so you agree that the body or dust was lifeless and what animated it was the spirit of God. And this spirit goes back to the owner after death... yet you dont seem to understand why the animated body/man is God made man?

some of you are making a mockery of God without you even knowing based on some of the things you all ascribe to and believe in.. common sense should or the truth should prevail in all things...

truthislight: you did not quote what the scriptures says.

How does that scripture support your lies.

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7).

^^^

how does that support your stand that man is a spirit?

you are still going around in circles.. but at bolded is where i want us to delved into for now.. i said man is God made flesh and you disagreed.
so i still want you to answer my question which is "was /adama/mould/body before it became animated, lifeless or not when it was first created?".. remove the religious veil and stop the delusion for a sedcond and lets use common sense here.

^^^ you going around in circles here... forget about soul for a minute if that is what is confusing you and answer this..
was the /adama/mould/body before it became animated lifeless or not when it was first created?

obadiah777: YUP ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL. THE DISCUSSION WAS STIMULATING I ENJOYED IT. A COLLUSION OF MINDS IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING

True... "when two or more are gathered in my name...."

all is well that ends well i am glad you both just had some fun..good discussion

Affiliated: Yea. it absolutely fascinates me. Maybe I'll send you a mail later and we can talk about it

yea there have been six period/races of mankind or eras so far which we just ushered in the sixth one this past Dec. 21... the current past one was the aryan period.. the script i believe were inspired by the Ra"s or given to the people by them during the atlantean period when they visited mankind at the time... you could tell it was distorted as usual by the people jsut like we have distorted the bible..

Affiliated: Great fun... great fun
Greatgenius By the way, have you read or heard about the emerald tablets of Thoth? If you have, what are your thoughts concerning it.

yea i have read some of it a while back. it dates backs to the atlantean period i believe..

lol lets see how this ends..two gods playing

btw this thread is veering towards a different tangent.. you all should be talking about souls not satan

"satan" does not exist. he is not a being...it is man made creation.. people as usual not taking responsiblity for theri evil ways have chosen to blame it on a nonexistent satan.

TroGunn: Actually not correct.

1John 4:1 - "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world".

and how do you understand this?...

like i said polarity is an illusion. the left side of polarity is what you have chosen to call " evil/satan/bad and the right side you have chosen to call godly/rightious/good...

but both sides are illusions.. God or the truth is not at both sides but at the center. God is in the center.the truth is that which balaces both sides. when you miss the mark on either side it you have sinned... imagine this as a person on-a teeter-totter, you loose balance and fall or miss the mark/center if you veer towards either side. The truth is freedom. it is in the center/balanced. it is that which is real not the illusion..

the verse is basically saying you have to test or verify what others/spirits say to know if it is the truth or coming from God or the center..

spirit = power of God, breath, holy spirit.

Satan also have his own spirit.

Worshpers of satan display a certain kind of spirit = attitude.

Children of God also show a different kind of spirit = attitude

lol so there are two kinds of spirits yet all are called spirit? satan also has his own spirit? ok so this begs the question whose/which spirit "created" the spirit of "satan".. my friend there is only one spirit. one God. polarity is an iilusion. separation is an illusion...

truthislight: .
The breath was not the soul neither the mould was the soul.

It was a combination of the two, the breath(spirit) and the body(mould) =soul.

^^^ the soul cannot exist in the absent of the other.

When the power of God leaves the body, then no more life and ofcouse no more soul.

i really didnt want to get involved too much in this discussion but it seems i have too...seems some of you read the bible at face value and do not really understand it..

i keep telling you guys you are God in flesh, god made man which the bible glaringly tells you albeit not in plain concise language but it tells you the truth nonetheless..
now lets go with your analogy
man formed out of the dust + breath or spirit of God= a living soul.. in other words the spirit of God is that which gives life to the lifeless body or "mould/dust/clay"... that which is animating the body is the spirit of God or God... we are God in the flesh...
when man "dies" the body or clay returns to where it came from and the spirit likewise.. The purpose of God entering into the "body of clay" is to experience physicality nothing more nothing less...

the breath of God is God's spirit or God's power it belongs to God and as such goes back to God.

The this breath of life that was put into the body is NOT the soul but the life force that brought the mould to life(soul)

what that was put was the breath of life and what that leaves is the breath of life, the spirit of God.
Dont forget that it took the breath of life and the mould/body to have the soul.

exactly at bolded.. the spirit of God is God. when it enters the clay or body it becomes God in flesh...

that cant be since the spirit of God is what that animate the body and that was what it takes for bring the man to life.
[b]Again, the man is the soul and as such it is something else that anima[/b]the man or the soul, or it is something else that keeps the man alive, it is the spirit of God that keeps the soul alive

.thats a contradiction at bolded.. you said earlier that living soul= man/flesh/clay/dust/mould+ spirit of God.
but again even if man=soul and the soul= clay/body/mould+ spirit of God; and spirit of God or God is that that which animates the body then common sense tells you that man is God in body or flesh! A fact

When the spirit of God goes into the mould it came to be the man Adam,
when the spirit of God goes into the mould it came to be a living soul.

So, man = soul sustain by the breath or the spirit of God.

so man or living soul as you want to put is spirit of God in flesh! God made man " have i not said that ye are Gods"

becuase the "church" which is supposed to serve as a place for a greater good has turned into a place where some of the greatest evil is "created"

Billyonaire: That question does not exist. To ask that very question is an indication that the OP and the argumentators are using logical knowledge to research on a highly advanced concept..

saying a question doesnt exist means you dont have the answers... i tell you what every question has an answer...

Its like using a gun to shoot at the Sun.

irrelivant

God is totality of all that there is in all the multiverses. Since we are energy beings, we are a part of the whole, we are gods.

this was why i said you were trying too hard... if you had went to read the threads i recommmended you would have realized that i have said these things a gazillion times in so many different ways...that God is all there is. she is all that is..the everything and the nothing. the Iam and the Iam not. the light and the dark. the everywhere and no where. there is only one God that individuated into the many. only one of us here. etc etc saying it here have nothing to do with the question asked which you obviously have no answer to..

So your question is logical and mental, but God Concept is beyond mind and mental realm

God concept is not beyond the mind. it is jsut beyond YOUR understanding obviously.time to increase your awareness which you claim you have but you really dont,

so you need a rather advanced tool than the mind

there is nothing but the mind. all is mind.everythign is happening in the mind of God. the mind is the spiritual.. agian you need to increase your level of consciouness,

science and logic has their limitation, they cant explore beyond capacity of mind.

obviously you have a limited or no idea of what the mind is

God is too advance for the mind, its why I consider atheism a temporal stage in the journey to GOd Realization. Full stop!

lol God is not too advanced for the mind. and at bolded waht has atheism to do with the question again? ah i get it you think i am an atheist becusde i said if God is everyehre then he is nowhere? lol.. and yet he thinks he knows it all

Billyonaire: Why would recommend theories that I outgrow 10yrs ago to me. Those were theories I held strong before personal experiences and contacts with adepts existing in different dimensions. I have strong conviction that you have no experience of life outside the physical. There is a limit to what the brain can assimilate, until you cross the veil and experience life in different dimensions then things I say will make little or no meaning. But am sure in some years to come if you chose to grow spiritually and psychically, you will find these threads.

what theories is he talking about ? I asked you to go read so you see how we got here... What is talking about light beings got to do with the topic ?

Oh and your brain is not your mind my friend .. like I said you don't seem to understand some of the things you say...