₦airaland Forum

The hypocrites have come again o.

Take out the system, not one person (done for the media).

If not for Russia would the Assad regime have survived ISIS, while America looked the other way? You left ISIS an entire Afghanistan country and went to go and kill a single person in Syria. Keep deceiving yourselves.

What kind of first house was he attempting to build with over 500 million naira ($1,000,000). Chai!, Nigerians never failing to put up a simple-man face while exhibiting pride.

I quite agree with this opinion. I believe that Buhari has done the background work (if you know). It is just a question of time for this senselessness to peter out.

So far Jagaban is doing well after his declaration: moves, not noise.

I don't really like the idea of fronting someone who does not have a political base like Osinbajo for the position of the Presidency. Reason is because when the chips are down, it is the good old sentiments that will move the votes. At that time all man will stand on their own two feet and it is the contestants who have been able to build bridges across more of the geo political zones that will then stand out. Except if Osinbajo has truly been internally accepted as consensus in APC, he may just be a pun himself, being used to checkmate others.

He received serious Nairaland bashing a couple of days ago. Sorry sir.

Mecca is the only place among the listed places that should have been set as a no fly zone because it is the place that is situated at the centre of the world.

When you bring all the habitable places in the world on the world map, Mecca sits at the center as shown in the url.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Makkah-Kabaa-the-center-of-the-world

This is how Allahu ta'ala has designed the earth you live in and there is nothing any naysayer can do about it except to come to nairaland and to talk gibberish to delight himself.

Moreover, this is only as far as your science has come thus far. However, people of insight will tell you more.

Nice one Buhari!

Free speech does not mean that you do not know the person that is making the free speech.

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SoNature:
I think Kwankwaso is hyped. If not, how can someone explain that a former governor cannot win a senatorial seat?

As for incompetent Buhari, that man remains the most popular Nigerian politician today. I can't believe that people were comfortably voting in incompetent politicians because they identified with Buhari.

I can't remember him loosing a senatorial election.

Such a powerful politician and grass root mover like Kwankwaso will be a huge factor in APC depending on his intents. If he is to come in to support an APC candidate in 2023, then it is only a question of time for APC to return to power in 2023. If he is coming in as a disruptive force then not even the big names in APC are guaranteed their spots going forward. It will be interesting to know what his intents are from an insider. Is his focus on Kano or the presidency or both?

How about a dispatch rider day to salute these very essential services guys.

Wonderful guys.

Only slightly more mature than kid'

The least of the three evils for me is Tinubu.

john87:
Who will deliver Nigeria

I have heard it directly from Igbos, before the 2015 election, that if Jonathan lost, then there would be no Nigeria again. So Buhari did not 'create' this sentiment among Igbos. In the Nigeria of today, no ethnic group can threaten any region where they are a minority.

What I have heard scholars preach is that the primary purpose of marriage is to prevent both parties (husband and wife) from engaging in any form of extra marital affairs (zina).

With that fulfilled, you can plan your family how you want it.

Stop waiting for promotions on the job, change jobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdeegIHALLc

Lukgaf:
1. "Milad" (birthday) is not in Islamic shariah, it was later introduced by the Shia Fatimd in Egypt.

From the hadith of Jareer (RadiAllahu Anh) in Muslim:

The one who innovates a good innovation in Islam receives its reward and a reward similar to that of all those who practice with it after him without any lessening in their reward

Therefore the above point may not stand as a reason not to celebrate Mawlid Nabi.

Moreover, Caliph Umar (RA) said after he gathered the people to be led by one Imam during the Tarawih prayer: “Praised is this innovation”
(Sahih Bukhari).

Also it can easily be connected that the understanding of the hadith of Jareer in Muslim was demonstrated by Caliph Umar as being of generic application just as The Prophet (PBUH) has worded them in generic terms.

Lukgaf:
2. Historians differed about the date of birth of Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s). Some said it's Ramadan, some in Shaban and some in Rabiul awwal.

This is a logical defence of your position and it does not have any evidential value. Muslims stick with the most likely date in matters like this just like we do in Ramadan to attain the blessing of Laytul Qadr even though we do not know the actual date that it is going to fall on. The same effort has been applied by muslim scholars on the birth date of The Prophet (PBUH) and the likely date has at least been narrowed down to the first half of Rabiul awwal. The rest is simple arithmetic.

Lukgaf:
3. Birthday celebrations have pagan roots, celebrating birthday is not allowed at all in Islam.

This is just like saying all personal matters have pagan roots because, as we know, Islam does not enforce binding rules on people's personal matters, so it does not matter how you deal with your personal matters as far as you do not contravene any extant rules of Islam while going about sorting your personal matters. It may be interesting to know where this prohibition is declared as you have stated in the bolded.

Lukgaf:
4. The celebration is neither from sunnah nor Qur'an. Anything that is not part of these two can not be part of islam.

From the above hadith of Jareer in Muslim under point 1, provision can be seen for the occurrence of celebrating Milad Nabi provided it is derived based on sound Islamic legal principles. Some of those legal principles may be:

As posted previously:

talk2hb1:
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds." (Quran: 21:106-107)

The Prophet (PBUH) was sent as the 'Mercy' for all creations.

Allahu ta'ala swore by the life of The Prophet (PBUH):

By your life, (O prophet) they are wandering blindly in their intoxication (misguidance)...
Quran 15 72 (AlSunnah.org)

Allahu ta'ala has not bestowed on anyone in the whole creation an honour and rank higher than that of Sayyidna Muhammad Mustafa (PBUH). This is the reason why Allahu ta'ala has never sworn by the life of any prophet or angel, while in this verse, He has sworn by the age and life of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) - which is the highest conceivable honour and deference accorded him.
- Ibn Abbas (RadiAllahu Anh) (Wisdom of the Qur'an)

Therefore his birth is certainly a major sign from Allahu ta'ala. Is his birth not even the highest among the major signs from Allahu ta'ala, if I may ask?

...whoever respects the signs of Allah, this surely is (the outcome) of the piety of hearts.
Qur'an, 22:32]

Are these not sound enough principles and legal grounds that can be advanced in favour of those who set aside a portion of their time to show reverance to this blessed day everytime that it comes once in a year, rather than closing our eyes entirely to it?

Are these grounds not enough reasons for a good innovation, as spelt out in the hadith of Jareer in Muslims above?

Lukgaf:
5. Prophet s.a.w.s said, "stick to my sunnah and the sunnah of my rightly guided caliphs, beware of newly invented matters, for every new matter is a Bid'ah and every Bid'ah is misleading." (Trimidhi 2676).

You run the risk of being unable to explain in clear terms other hadiths that give room for a legal framework within which further solutions can be arrived at when new matters confront the religion if you insist on that this hadith implies that every religious matter has been solved already.

Some of the hadiths are:
Al-Harith ibn ‘Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Mu’adh to Yemen and he said, “How will you judge?” Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to the Book of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Book of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, with the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, I will strive to form an opinion .” The Prophet said, “All praise is due to Allah, who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.”.

The hadith of Jareer in Muslim quoted above.

The saying of Caliph Umar (RA) quoted above.

One such matter is the use of microphone to reach a larger audience within salah. The Prophet (PBUH) did not do it. The Sahaba (RA) did not do it. The tabi'in (RA) and the taba-at-tabi'in (RA) did not do it. But alas here we are with it. Should we now drop use of microphone in worship?

Is it not OK to reason that this hadith you quoted above only establishes the bounds within which solutions must first be sought before an informed opinion can be made by a qualified scholar if the solution can not be readily established from the sources mentioned in the hadith, of course, with a certificate of authority from The Prophet (PBUH) or a history of such certifications, which is what the hadiths seem to be pointing to when considered altogether with other hadiths from a wholistic point of view rather than use one hadith to expunge the others when most of them have similar reliability statuses.

Lukgaf:
6. Allah says in surah Al Maidah,ayah 3. "This day, I have perfected your religion for you."

Everybody is in agreement with this. The religion comes with its rules and its legal frameworks and everything. But are our understandings of some of these references the same? No.

Lukgaf:
7. Celebrating 'Milaad' is the imitation of Christians and Jews. Jews celebrate the birthday of Uzair, while Christians celebrate the birthday of Isa (A.s).

8. Prophet Muhammod (s.a.w.s) said, " Whoever imitates a sect or people becomes one of them". (Abu Dawood).

9. Prophet Muhammod also said, "be different from Mushrikeen (the Unbelievers)." (Sahih muslim).

Are we not now imitating them even in worship by the adoption of microphone in Salat if I may ask? Didn't The Prophet (PBUH) show us how to be different when common events join us together with non-muslims? Such as the fasting of the 9th and 10th of Muharram or on even mundane matters such as dyeing of hair? Why can't same be applied to birthday celebrations?

Lukgaf:
10. Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w.s) again said, "Do not exaggerate in praising me".

This could be even an approval for celebrating Milad Nabi (PBUH) ensuring that whatever is sinful in the religion is not carried into such celebrations. Why can't we seek to remove the ills associated with mawlid celebrations rather than quash it altogether?

America's next presidential election will be interesting, things already heating up at governorship level.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZJ0Dl_wMiA

Don't worry President Erdogan.

The prayer of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) suffices for you and your country till the end of time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdeegIHALLc

The basis for which you rejected the observing of mawlud:

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Nonsense innovation.
Something the prophet didn't do.

Was wrong and was corrected by this hadith:

Al-Harith ibn ‘Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Mu’adh to Yemen and he said, “How will you judge?” Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to the Book of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Book of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, with the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, I will strive to form an opinion .” The Prophet said, “All praise is due to Allah, who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.”.

Your hadith quotations:

Tadeknkeepcalm:
“Whoever innovates into this matter of ours that which does not belong to it, it will be rejected.”
“Whoever performs a deed that is not in accordance with our matter, it will be rejected.”

Were wrongly reworded in your above verdict as what The Prophet "did" or "did not" but the quotations show that the scope is wider than that by the phrase "our matters" which is detailed in the above hadith of Muaz bin Jabal. There we saw that it is not only about what The Prophet (PBUH) did or didn't do that count as acceptable in judicial matters.

Your attempt to support your claim with the understanding of the Sahaba (RA) did not come with any evidence to support your view.

When I see someone who can explain these flaws of the modern narratives flying around, I shall continue with him.

Thank you.

Tadeknkeepcalm:
What was the point of your previously posted hadith? Was it not to show evidence that you can "form an opinion"?
Then I responded to you with an answer from the same Hadith that they were specifically talking about judicial matters. Hence the question, is the celebration of maolud a judicial matter you have come to settle? Is it a matter you have scoured the hadith and Qur'an about to make judgement upon?
If your answer to the question is "No", then refer back to the first hadith I posted about innovating into the religion. I hope you can see that there's no mix up here.

To your second paragraph, it was in response to your claim that "matter of ours" has a wide scope. Which I said otherwise. For example, does the matter of ours refer to the way we speak? The tools we use to make our daily lives easier? Does the hadith count flying a plane as an innovation? Or conversing over the internet as one? If your answer to this is also "No". How do we know this since it can have a "wide scope"? You see now that it does not have a subjective meaning but an objective one. And that is—innovation in the Deen

I hope you understand.

You came to give a verdict on a practice as nonsense innovation and that verdict could only have been possible if you considered the practice as a judicial matter which is the context under which you can give your verdict.

If you did not consider the practice as a judicial matter but rather to be outside the space of judicial matters, then you should not have made the comment. This way there is no need for you to ask me whether the hadith that I quoted is dealing on judicial matters or not. You are putting the cart before the horse by asking me if the hadith was on judicial matters or not because you have already given a verdict on the subject matter as nonsense innovation which set the context as speaking on a judicial matter.

So can you now own your verdict and tell me if you are giving a position based on placing the practice within the context of a judicial matter or outside of it?

Thought process matters, I hope you understand?

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Is the matter of innovating a "festival" a judicial matter?

There is something of a mix-up that is coming from your side based on this post of yours. You came to label a practice as a nonsense innovation and now you are asking me if it is a judicial matter? Why then did you come to label it as a nonsense innovation if you did not consider it a judicial matter?

Tadeknkeepcalm:
And "matter of ours doesn't have a wide scope if you understand it as the companions of the prophet and those who came after did.

How did the companions understand it? Did they understand it differently from the above given hadith?

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever innovates into this matter of ours that which does not belong to it, it will be rejected.”

In another narration, the Prophet said, “Whoever performs a deed that is not in accordance with our matter, it will be rejected.”

So the phrase we are looking at is 'matter of ours' and not 'what I do': 'matter of ours' has a wider scope than 'what I do'.

The hadith of Muaz Bin Jabal to Yemen breaks this down:

Al-Harith ibn ‘Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent Mu’adh to Yemen and he said, “How will you judge?” Mu’adh said, “I will judge according to the Book of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Book of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, with the Sunnah of the messenger of Allah.” The Prophet said, “What if it is not in the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah?” Mu’adh said, “Then, I will strive to form an opinion.” The Prophet said, “All praise is due to Allah, who has made suitable the messenger of the Messenger of Allah.”

- Tirmizi

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Yes. In matters of the religion. Yes.

And he said "What I did not do" is innovation In matters of the religion or you reworded it like that because what I am implying here is that rewording can project other meanings, right?

Tadeknkeepcalm:
Nonsense innovation.
Something the prophet didn't do.

Did The Prophet (PBUH) say that 'what I did not do' is nonsense innovation?

chrisxxx:
Nigeria is the only country in the world where the birth of Mohammed is celebrated. Not even ih his birthday place Saudi Arabia.

That is outright misinformation and incorrect!

Mecca was the last city to come under the rule of Islam during the time of The Prophet (PBUH), that is after Islam had already gone international, and here you are mentioning Saudi Arabia as a country. It is obvious, by this, that we can't expect Saudi Arabia to be the pioneer in everything about Islam.

Those monikers saying trash about Islam, your comeuppance, like the fate of those before you, is near. Though when you get repaid in full for your arrogance now, it may not be readily connected to your faceless handles. Anyway, that is how inconsequential you all are in the grand scheme of things.

UnabashedIPOB:
The Igbos outright hate the Yoruba and it is time Yorubas become very conscious of this hatred.

Truth be told the hatred is a two way street! Well, let me take it back, I would not call it hatred but rather an unhealthy rivalry. This rivalry stems from the British Colonial era policy of divide and rule which, they imbibed into the consciousness of the citizens to bring suspicion and mistrust so that they can continue to loot the country. But one thing that both tribes, Igbo and Yoruba, failed to appreciate is that there are more that bind us together than separate us. Both tribes pretty much share similar values as far as education, hard-work, entrepreneurship, innovation, sense of community, personal responsibility, self reliance and empowerment are concerned. So, only those that do not understand the dynamic at play would call it hatred. As Igbos, I am certain there are aspects of us that other tribes resent and so are the Yorubas as well. There are aspects of them that other tribes detest. The major problem is that we see our differences as things to use to drive a wedge between us and demonize each other. It should not be and that's the more reason we want the disintegration of the damned country!

Unhealthy rivalry indeed!

Divide Yorubas along religious lines and call one part Afonjas, albeit, using a Yoruba owned platform to galvanize that division (pains to drag NL along that line, but truth be told). And when it feels like idea is sold and bought, turn around to burn down their center of unity, Lagos, and ransack their Oba's house, and finally put the stamp of no man's land or waste land on them.

Me waiting for Igbos to point out non indigenes holding political posts in the igbo states.