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Simbrixton:
and den dey life ur people for obayunwa I pity you sha

Are Fulanis not killing your people too, mugu


You nor get sense


If we retaliate now, na you go still dey bad mouth when the tables are in benin favour....

Abi do you want me to show you comment on when bins were dealing with the ijaw people here on nairaland

How people like you saying the edo people were unfair in their judgment for not allowing the pere to be king.... And they insulted obaseki


Go and sit down na ijaw you wan use troll edo

Simbrixton:
slave of oba dey talk ijaws dey wait una for gelegele uhundan

Wen we start dealing with the ijaws you all started calling it unfair, and crying on their behalf that Obaseki is partial


But you all supported the killings of igbos in portharcourt by wike.... Because you don't like igbos, but when we arrested the Pere of ijaws even the useless igbos and Yorubas cried on their behalf


We are yet to use brute force on the ijaws....

Simbrixton:
who release dese tout

Mugu....

Etinosa1234

Truthshots2:
That person is most likely not itsikeri, the yoruba propagandists are on full deployment trying to hijack the Olu throne.

They are all insane, coming here to parade as yorubas the true itsekiri wont agree to be Yoruba neither would they agree to be fully edos they would rather stay neutral


All this ones here are saboteurs pretending to be itsekiris, the edict must stand Tsola must be dethrone and the law must be upheld the former olu is to be blamed for all this probably he never wanted any of his children to rule

Or he probably had an hidden son somewhere who made the requirement


The itsekiri people cannot tell who is to be made king, it is not their choice when the stool was enacted by the benins it it also not their choice in the current century,

Tsola must be dethrone and iyasere should act as the reigning king until a match for the throne is found

A deliberate disobedient of custom by a custodian shows how useless the throne has become



That same law that made the former king, the ruler of itsekiri amongst is brothers is thesame law he stepped on, how ungrateful the olu was to the law

Simbrixton:
imagine why exactly do binis lie we itsekiris saw them as brothers b4 but not anymore

Shut up, yen yen yen.... Saw us as brothers

TAO11:
YAWNS!

You like talktoo much.....

Oba= president, position = head king
Governor =ogie position = head king

Both holds similar position, but different names, you cant have the top most king to be called ogie with his lower chiefs not to breed confusion
The title oba is used to show distinction in superiority


You saying the oba should also bear ogie as title tells how desperate your pussy stinks, is like saying Buhari should bear the title governor, because they are more people using the title governor than president Tao11 and her foolish brothers



TAO11 you mumu and desperate...


So our oba should bear the title ogie, instead of oba


And the yoruba kings should have their various distinct titles ooni, olu, and Co

Why does the ooni not bear the olu title since it is a more common Yoruba monarchial title

TAO11:
I thought you disagree with your fellow kinsmen over the meaning of “Ogie” — that is, “King”.

“Ogie” is your Bini word for “king”. Make sure to love, respect, and embrace it.

“Oba” is the Yoruba equivalent which my ancestors fed to your daddies & mommies.

It is a colonial Yoruba relic upon the Binis forever and ever. Amen!

Cc: UGBE634

And i explain why i used king instead of royals


A stranger can ask who is the president of edo state, a quick answer is Obaseki, before you begin to explain how he is a governor not a president


Ok maybe i should call him

Royals of the water... Are you ok


Before you drag the title oba with benin, there is certain things you must prove first before you now say the title oba belongs to the Yorubas

Which is first prove the benin-ife connection which you have failed more than you have tried



If you're ready to try again i will wakeup one of my previous threads

TAO11:
Refer to my comment below for a refutation of his crappy screenshot.


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How many times must your A.F.C. Ryder screenshot be debunked before you feel ashamed of yourself ??



Please point out one statement of fact/certainty from your A.F.C. Ryder 1965 screenshot. I would wait.

While I’m waiting, refer carefully to the page below for a citation of A.F.C. Ryder 1969, p.31. — 4 years later.

Cheers!

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13410825_d068e656589b4bbbb298a34dd1d5cdcc_jpeg_jpeg60c0b8c88f425856c2f91ce1774288a0

Can we see the cross the ooni of ife palace and the helmet too


You be clown


Ooni of ife na u dey force to be ogene like say na urhobo man

nisai:
You are such a clown.

Prove it

UGBE634:
There is OGIAME- KING OF WATER, THERE IS ANOTHER, OGIAMIEN

Who said they are two Ogiemien na you form that one


Oga go sit down you be Yoruba man....


Do you know when we have been debating benin history on nairaland


Is there anything like ogiefa in the obas palace
Is there any yoruba title in the oba of Bini palace
Do benin practice any traditional rite pertaining to yoruba or ife


Omo use your head and stop listening to what the regular people say go and do your research

TAO11 you're meeting to discuss benin history and trying to convince her to believe the benin-ife knows the truth its a lie, she is very vast in Benin history than you're yourself



Did benin ever referred to themselves as bini or edo


Guy go and visit my profile and do your personal research my research work is on my profile if you care to read it


Go and download this pdf


A reconsideration between benin and ife relationship by afc Ryder


When you read am finsh meet me for more books

If you wanr to debate me i can drop my whatsapp number make we debate am and if you get any question

TAO11:
@gregyboy, here is your brother confessing unknowingly that the actual Bini word for “king” is “OGIE”.

Oba is the loan term from your masters — the Yorubas.

Who is a Duke, a Duke is a ruler of a small town
In that small town that ruler is a king(oba), that doesn't mean he is an obs, but descriptively he is an oba

Likewise ogie= a ruler of a small town, in that town he is the king(oba) so his title could be use interchangeably depending on the sentence

Ogie means= royal, king

Oba = king of all king and all royal

UGBE634:
The fact is there are evidences he ruled actually, there is the ogiefa today in Benin. He couldn't have left without ruling nobody would have made Eweka king if the father had not succeeded in the fight and actually became the first Oba of Benin. He did left some strong structures in Benin however was met with constant restiveness while he was king in Benin hence the term "OGIEAMIEN AIMEIN OBA" "meaning na king them dae see Dem nor dae see oba" hence the frustration and the decision to leave. I Meant by his logic sorry

You yoruba pretending to benin keep shut

You disgust me


Ogiefa what is the meaning


Ogie of ifa

Are you aware benins complained that ifa was been forced on them during the their time in the western region, that the yorubas are forcing them
To worship ifa, inother to indulge in politics


That is were the worship ifa and ogboni entered benin, ifa or ogboni worship was never in Benin prior to western region which made it mandatory for political elite to indulge in such worship




Again Ogiemien, should not be interpreted as what you interpreted it to be

Ogiemien is the king of the waters

Before benin was organized into one ogiemien ruled the part in benin surrounded by waters until
He was defeated by ogietor and benin kingdom was established


Ogiemien history has nothing to do with Yoruba people oromiyan never existed


If you're a benin man face me and stop running like a yoruba coward

UGBE634:
The fact is there are evidences he ruled actually, there is the ogiefa today in Benin. He couldn't have left without ruling nobody would have made Eweka king if the father had not succeeded in the fight and actually became the first Oba of Benin. He did left some strong structures in Benin however was met with constant restiveness while he was king in Benin hence the term "OGIEAMIEN AIMEIN OBA" "meaning na king them dae see Dem nor dae see oba" hence the frustration and the decision to leave. I Meant by his logic sorry

Why are ypu, not attacking me with, this why go meet, TAO11, i want to believe you're Yoruba pretending to be benin


Smauk, Valirex truthhot

TAO11:
Same old lies requires same refutation.

Tell a new lie for a change.

Mt new lie


Oromiyan once existed and he conquered all the way to Cameroon

scholes0:
Oga, those names are not what you are making them out to be... They are pure Yoruba names

[s]Atorongboye for example is - He who came from the abode of the gods (Orun in Yoruba, Oron in SE Yoruba) to claim the throne[/s]

same with all the others. .... Anyways, I dont have time for all this. Suit yourselves with fantasies.

You literally made any meaning there


Break the words again i didnt get it the first time try again this time think it through thoroughly

And after you give this our meaning we would ask an Itsekiri man for their meaning


You wanna try again yoruba boy

TAO11:
Every chronic liar hates that their lies should be exposed publicly.

Your plight at the moment is therefore understandable.

Cc: soonest

slowpoke

TAO11:
Until he confirms with his own mouth that he is a sell-out, I won’t take your newly acquired mind-reading machine serious. LMAO!

You're just useless to me now, you use to be useful in the past exposing the truth to benin history to me,

I guess you're exhausted now, because the more you unfold the more benefits it becomes to me...


Instead of looking for attention, why not create one by bringing something new....
To the table


You're just boring these days

TAO11:
Please request him to provide evidence from an English-Benin dictionary/lexicon to buttress his jibber-jabber of a reply.


Busy




Cheers!

Bizzybody

TAO11:
Why are you forcing @nisai to agree that your present Benin king has mental illness?

Your king repeatedly stated during his coronation (and elsewhere) that Oranmiyan is his fore-father.

Why do you strongly believe that your king is a lunatic?

Wait! Is Eweka 1 (or Ewuare tHe gReAt) a real human or a fairway tale? Lol.






I am still waiting on you to address my request to you as highlighted in blue font.

Cheers!

Cc: KingOKON

The oba of benin is just playing some mental games with the yorubas, it just yoy that is taking it personal and holding it as truth instead of a game

soonest:
What does the word oba mean in bini language. King i know is Ogie.
Why is the Oba refered to omon'oba

Omo n'ba nedo, ukwapolopolo


Meaning “the child that shines for the edo people and the gigantic one"


Ogie= means "royal", royal blood,
Enogie= means a duke literally means "a sent royal"

The oba can be referred ogie when you're referring to him as a royalty but for his position he is called OBA, every other person below him are called ogie


Omo= child
Noba= shines
Nedo= in edo
Ukwapolopolo= gigantic one



And not to be interpreted as, "the son of the king of edo the gigantic one" which would be a wrong interpretation



Have i answered your question would you like to answer mine

TAO11:
Thank you oo!

@gregyboy, please note that I have a dictionary of Bini language right here in case you will turn around to tell us that “Obaseki” means “Shinning-seki” or “Red-seki”.

Stop repeating endless questions....


Ogie means royalty
Enogie= means a sent royal
Oba= means king, superior

Etymology of the world oba is shinning-one


I keep telling you ife and yoruba never had encounter but the bitter truth wont let you swallow you rather use the false lies to troll than say the truth you are already aware of


Do you know what, it is not on you. to admit the truth Nigeria has corrupted every reasonable senses one should have

So that's why i will keep posting for the civilized unborn children

Mraphel:
Igodomigodo we know is not traced to Ife but the Bini dynasty originated from Ife and southwest.

Can you prove it, you think we are in the 90s we talk history without fact

KingOKON:
.

Oromiyan is from ondo while Sango is from Ogun....wetin seun no go read for NAIRALAND

There is no history of yoruba people before tge arrival of the British


OYo empire was even a lie, despite Europeans were in west Africa when oyo empire rose, they didnt notice its presence


Making me believe awolowo and Co formed oyo kingdom using Paper and pencil

zeusdgrt:
Mumu so what connects yoruba to this movement from the north?when u are a product of marijuana sperm u are expected to talk and insult people,guy nor try am with me.U dey learn eediot!

Go sit down one side..... Bloody Yoruba eating amala bigot

nisai:
Tao11, your customer don come oooo Weytin we dey learn today? We don learn how Oranmiyan go colonise them for Bini.

Talk is cheap prove it......... Prove it oromiyan who never existed you think we deal with fairytale stories as history

ariesbull:
We will explore your oil and use it

Bloody coward who cant identify is Nnamdi cownu day dream republic




Parading the use majority population like say na world achievement the whitemen who made your poultry tribe majority would be wearing pride as clothing then.... Fool


Mugu.... From yeast

nisai:
Tao wo se mi. We biro mi, we le fun mi ni mentionu

Speak English

nisai:
I never took him serious. I know he is your customer

You again all this Runaway Yoruba cowards of a male... Living toa11 to be constantly bleeped by bini men everytime she lies

ariesbull:
Is it the Edo that Biafra troops defeated in less than 24 hours

....bunch of minorities ....we have shared you


Ijaw has taken the left gelegele

Bunch of bloody useless majority, bloody foolish useless population


Identify your tribe you bloody coward....

Ijaw has shared you.... Was that meant to be a troll.....


You defeated edos and yet edo reclaimed their land back, would you call that defeat

British made you fucking lots, to have the audacity to challenge an edo man...who born monkey before

Bloody useless populated poultry tribe, parading their greatest achievement with the number of useless population they have


You call us minorities today, when the British from far away made you a majority, a whiteman made you majority you pride yourself of today be ashamed.. You fool


And stop priding your useless population

Population does not mean anything you fool


Yen yen yen... We are majority.. You minorities should keep shut...

ariesbull:
Read today's news....majority tribe are Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa

Itshekiri has aligned with Yoruba
Igbanke has aligned with Igbo and they want to join their kits and kin in Ika

Auchi axis will definitely join their Muslim brothers

Now Ijaw has taken over gelegele...you have only 3 local government left

Day dreamers once Nigeria is gone the bonds that holds the artifical tribe will be shattered and be reverted to default... Lol

Dey dream calling yourself majority... Lol with 40local govt

When Nigeria breaks we will know who is really the majority tribe not the artifical made up ones by the Colonial masters



E go shock you say that igbanke making mouth of biafra solidarity will join edo Republic



Again please were are you from, am edo tell me yours so we can be equal when attacking




You be day dreamers

soonest:
I think Edos aren't Yorubas but their ruling house is obviously of Yoruba ancestry.
The use of Oba instead of Ogiso.
The Oba gets to fight a Bini family like that in a mock fight to ascend the throne
And many other pointers to show the ruling is likely to be of Yoruba origin

The use of oba instead of ooni or sir allocated by the British makes me know that yorubas borrowed the title oba from benins




Yoeubas borrowed the word oba from binis

ariesbull:
LoL....so agbor man or Asaba man bearing Emeka will leave his cousin bearing Emeka in East and follow one Osas
...... One problem with these Edo folks is they still don't know they are minority


Itshekiri is purely a Yoruba enclave...Owolowo made the Olu of itshekiri olu od warri...that is the fact

As of anioma they are atinatically Igbo


Ijaw will deal with Edo folks...the 2ay they collected their land at Gelegele...the Ijaw will make Edo their servants


Una never see anything

Lol, you think is how you see reality that's how reality really plays out

Youre so sure that all this tribe will go the way you see it


Emeka from agbor will go with emeka from enugu so in years to come they will tell hin he is not pure igbo.... He has a mixture if edo
Or you want our brothers in owo in the ruking house to go with the yorubas


One thing about you majority tribe is you think you're actually a major tribe like you think!!

Nigeria made you majority and when Nigeria is no more you guys will once a gain remain a minority tribe


Benin in the past has always been a majority tribe, and gave her vassals pure autonomy...

Which when Nigeria breaks up this various tribe would reconsider joining back the former empire



The only tribe out of the three major tribe who were truely a major tribe are the hausa/Fulani tribe, they were one before Nigeria was formed although they had several dispute

But yorubas and igbos are just artificial major tribe in Nigeria, when Nigeria breaks you guys would reset to default and we will know the real major tribe



Majority my foot