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gidgiddy:
Some if these people are already claiming that the entire Anioma area are Bini people and not Igbos

Why bini dey give you headache like this

AdakaBoro8:
good. well am not bini, so i dont know binis agenda...

Yea, we need our kingdom back, or better still if thats not possible we want a small country of edo state,

We would never join the yorubas, how awolowo treated our people during the western region cannot repeat itself, in Niger Delta we wont much
Because we don't have oils to compete other areas with oil

So we would rather remain the isreal amongst islamic nations

Ekealterego:
Oga when the British came to conquer you under a few hours, your so called empire did not go beyond your 3 LGAs... Stop living on fictitious glory...

Are you talking as an idiot or probably its a family syndrome


Benin fell under 3 moths and guerrilla warfare continued for 2yrs



Modafucker what do you know about bini history,

I expected such from a tribe that had no history prior to the arrival of thr Europeans you fool

Christistruth00:
Oyo defeated the Asanti of Ghana in the Battle of Atakpame in Togo in 1764.

Traders report, can we get the traders exact quote was it a European trader, no reference to this trader name


Dahomey recognized oyo as a strong empire sane Dahomey oyo couldn't defeat that part oyo defeated was a yoruba clan who migrated to Dahomey areas


Oyo couldn't go to the seat of the Dahomey king and sack it, just the way the Fulani sacked the alafin


That European writer was probably writing to impress and sell is book

Go and read the works of afc Ryder and how detailed is work are on benin history and documentation


We want to know the traders exact quote and who reported to, how the war went

Oyo would just leave her territory to wage war on long distance Kingdom unprovoked

AdakaBoro8:
jargons is what u waste ur time type.. when will igbo grow up senses to type reasonable thing?

only igbo born by a mistake think niger delta tribes dont have plan B..

Ijaws planB is the great IZO'N IBE REPUBLIC..

bini plan b is great benin kingdom..


Nah plan A is benin kingdom

Plan B is Niger Delta


The British cheated us not making our empire a kingdom just to break the oba powers, incase if the empire rise soneday


niger delta republic is a plan A..

Nah plan A is benin kingdom

Plan B is Niger Delta


The British cheated us not making our empire a kingdom just to break the oba powers, incase if the empire rise someday

Christistruth00:
Oyo defeated the Asanti of Ghana in the Battle of Atakpame in Togo in 1764.

That was one of the things that led to Basorun Gaa becoming a Powerful and Power drunk tyrant, the territory he controlled included parts of Ghana.


Cc: TAO11 , Olu317, macof

Lol, i told you bring old European text acknowledging such wars... You're bringing me uk web, who probably got their information from Wikipedia


..... If Oyo was this popular and throughout European visit during the precolonial times they never knew such self proclaimed empire existed...

Oyo became the self proclaimed empire at the 16 century when Europeans were already 2 centuries in west africa and they didnt notice is existence.... Nawa

Togo was colonized by france definitely France who had been around the Togo region at then should have notice this war, and definitely noted it, it was a big war involving different kingdom across empires


So without any further discussion i need ancient European text supporting this war

Or get me local report from the individual empires that fought this war acknowledging its authenticity that it wasnt just made up by one lunatic and circulated by a yoruba tribal bigot



Or else end this mythical nonsense talk or face further disgrace while i shatter the self proclaimed non existed empire of oyo



Mtcheew, i dont even allow my fellow bini kinsmen to talk in myth when addressing bini history, would it now be a yoruba i would want to allow


This is 21st century were info is everywere and one can easily do research from home,

So go and hide and do a proper research of that war you brought up there before I would listen to you

If you can't prove it then don't bring it

Christistruth00:
The Alaafins Army had a Military Calvary class of Horsemen called the Parakoyi

The Journey from Abeokuta to Kano used to take eight days on Horseback

Ibadan to Ilorin was about 2 days on Horseback

Oyo and Dahomey as allies defeated the Ashanti of Ghana at the battle of Atakpame in Togo in 1764.

Atakpame in Togo is Yoruba till today.

The two last Maps show where Atakpame is in Yorubaland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atakpamé

Are you using Wikipedia as a source of reference do you know what get me

A Ghanaian site, talking on this history, get me a yoruba site or Nigerian site talking on this same history and get me a benin republic site
talking on this same history in detailed form

Or you could get me an ancient
European document talking on these same history


Unless you make this requirement we cannot verify the authenticity of these history anybody can go to Wikipedia and write rubbish and call it history

Christistruth00:
My Ghanaian Ashanti friend has just confirmed that they Lost the Battle of Atakampe to Dahomey and the Yorubas


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Atakpamé

Lok, you make me laugh do you know how far Ghana is from Nigeria how oyo army take reach there.. Lol


Oyo army all the way to Ghana... Lol... Wetin dem dey fight for, how dem take know say na oyo people them fight, any European document on such wars, 17c European were already way in Ghana

That is just a mythical tales to draw attention

The people oyo waged on in dahomey was their own Yoruba people who longed migrated to benin republic so when war came within the Yoruba ethnic group they were included as they are Yorubas, they later sought the help of the king of dahomey who later liberated them from the hands of the oyo,

Now the oyo people couldn't even subject the entire dahomans then how did they cross to Ghana without meeting resistance from Togo, Dahomey before they arrived Ghana


When you see cooked up fairytale it is easy to detect unless you are wearing tribal glasses

Sufferingboy:
Keep quit,I am not a yoruba but you and I know that ogun belong to the yorubas.

You're not Yoruba but you're slitting your throat
For what you don't know,


You b mugu

Sufferingboy:
Funny enough,na afonjas be the real owner of ogun deity.

Can you prove this, if not ogun go kill you bro


You think you can just say anything

Christistruth00:
The Asanti of Ghana once paid tribute to the Alaafin of Oyo after loosing the battle of Atakampe in Togo in 1764.

Today Ashanti are 100% independent

and Alaafin is not dragging their Gold rich Land with them.

Alaafin is also not dragging Land with the Ga tribe of Accra Ghana nor Ewe of Togo and Ghana,they were all once under him.but today their Land is theirs,

Even Porto Novo Capital of Benin Republic and Badagry belonged to the Alaafin of Oyo but today they are fully independent nobody is dragging their God Given Lands

This one just they talk nonsense


Am fucking researcher i know the Yoruba history more than you, so you have to becareful when you bring history at me


Oyo never had any relationship with the mentioned countries you brought up there

So they wouldn't understand how history works

Binin empire was brought yo an halt not because it collapse itself but because the British collapse it, so literally the vassal under benin didnt win their autonomy so our traditions still stand


Unlike oyo that collapse itself

FatherOfJesus:
Serious in can’t work, Bini and itshekiri will most likely join oduduwa as minorities.
That Nigerdelta thing is dead on arrival and they need to be absorbed into bigger groups

Your mad, edo would remain autonomous we would fight for our autonomy if its our last option


Edo would stand as a country it stood in the past as one it would stand again,

Sammy07:


Niger delta will choose 1 option
Cos Nigeria cannot be divided along states line that's the pure truth.

1. Either Nigeria divides as Northern Region, Old Easterner region, Western Region, Mid west region

2. Either Nigeria divides as Northern Region, Western (SW) Region, Eastern (SE) region, South South Region (SS)

Because I think Igbo land stretches to Opobo.
If it stretches to Opobo and Igbo nation is created, Niger Delta country is created it means SE Will cut the so called Niger delta region into Two.

Well, I'm of the opinion that its the minorities in Nigeria that doesn't want this country to split because they know its another Mini Nigeria for them

And plz i only want Oduduwa country of
6 SW states, 12LGS in Kwara, Southern Kogi, Itshekiris in Delta, part of akoko edo.


Would have love Olukumi to join but their distance is a bit lengthly.
Our prayers are with them, they should continue to retain our language and promote our culture.

Yoruba language is spoken in 11 states of Nigeria.
Osun
Ekiti
Kwara
Ondo
Oyo
Lagos
Ogun
QqeelwwkrqkrEdo
Delta
Kogilele
Niger

Ogun dey1wq kill you which edo wen get Yoruba people

Sammy07:


Niger delta will choose 1 option
Cos Nigeria cannot be divided along states line that's the pure truth.

1. Either Nigeria divides as Northern Region, Old Easterner region, Western Region, Mid west region

2. Either Nigeria divides as Northern Region, Western (SW) Region, Eastern (SE) region, South South Region (SS)

Because I think Igbo land stretches to Opobo.
If it stretches to Opobo and Igbo nation is created, Niger Delta country is created it means SE Will cut the so called Niger delta region into Two.

Well, I'm of the opinion that its the minorities in Nigeria that doesn't want this country to split because they know its another Mini Nigeria for them

And plz i only want Oduduwa country of
6 SW states, 12LGS in Kwara, Southern Kogi, Itshekiris in Delta, part of akoko edo.


Would have love Olukumi to join but their distance is a bit lengthly.
Our prayers are with them, they should continue to retain our language and promote our culture.

Yoruba language is spoken in 11 states of Nigeria.
Osun
Ekiti
Kwara
Ondo
Oyo
Lagos
Ogun
Edo
Delta
Kogi
Niger

Ogun dey kill you which edo

Itskiri in ologbo are migrant in bini land and they should remain like that or they get pushed back to their original home

Christistruth00:
Liar

The Second Enogie of Ologbo was installed in 2017, which further proves that Ologbo belongs to the Itsekiri.

So you can see you lied again

Even from your first lie Claiming Ologbo Itsekiri were your TENNANTS for 500 years it was already 100% obvious that Ologbo belongs to the Itsekiri.

No Landlord calls a group of People tennants after 500 years , the Ologbo Itsekiri would have already integrated enough in Culture, Language and intermarriage to be called his own People you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between them .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY9sq6acbQM


The Itsekiri have been at Ologbo since the 15th Century., why did you just start imposing Enogie on them ?

Stop the Land grabbing

It will not end well.


Prob 22: 28 NIV

Do not move an ancient boundary stone
set up by your ancestors.

Doeant remove the fact the oba controlled ologbo and her environs in ancient past, edotraditions says any boundary around benin must have an enogie who speak the local dialect benin


In the European document itsekiris were referred to as middle men, who settled around water boundaries and serves as middle men for the benins ologbo was regarded as a bini territory by the European controlled by the oba,

During the precolonial times many people settled at ologbo to trade with the Europeans ijaw, itsekiri, European as soon as trade left benin territory to benin river present day Delta state many of this traders left to the benin River to trade with the European for some unknown reason the itsekiri settled and never left


And if the itsekiris had claimed ownership of ologbo in acient oast like they are doing now, it would have been a sorry case,
Because we are now in democratic era so anything goes and tenants can say rubbish

macof:
Lazy conclusion that is not based on anything.
As I said at best it is a word inherited from the common proto language

B deceiving yourself there

alfredilly:
And you sound like an entitled fool, that's why you resort to personal attack without your argument any logical proof. I can listen to an Itsekiri person speak without missing a word of it, tell me if Benin has that connection.

Itsekiri are not benin, just the royal house are, and we don't want it diluted with any yoruba entity


Ia that too hard for you guys to swallow

macof:
lol
Stop clowning

At best it is a word inherited from the common language that yoruba, Igbo and Edoid languages evolved from.

Stop trying to laugh out the reality

Logically a word that is common to both igbo amd yoruba or entire southern Nigeria comes from Benin language, they are the only tribe who made contact with vertualy all most all d tribe in Southern Nigeria

You would find out tribes benin didnt have contact with in southern Nigeria dont have similar word for cat to areas benin had contact with

Christistruth00:
From what you have written it is obvious that Ologbo belongs to the Itsekiri

Any Culture that calls a group of People TENANTS after 500 years of settlement in a Place and that is threatening to drive them out is desperately faulty and needs a Complete Overhaul it is not done anywhere on Earth.
God himself will fight that Nation .

Even the black Americans who were exported to the US as Slaves are not called Tenants they have long become American Citizens.

From what you wrote alone it is obvious Ologbo belongs to Itsekiri.

If it were not so they would have been Edonised by now both in Language and Culture, by now the Ologbo Itsekiri would have been speaking Edo and bearing Edo names.

500 years ago the People of Ogbomosho were Baribas it didn’t take 300 years for them to become completely Yoruba not through War but by everyday interaction with Yorubas.

From what did i write makes you have this conclusion, young man try and always read without tribal goggles, iqould help


This people has been ruled by enogie since they migrated to benin land at Ologbo all a suddenly they want their own ruler, so they can be causing problems we will show them they are tenants

Ogungbemi01:
You call Itsekiris foreigners yet you want to claim their throne by all means.

. Because their throne is edo origin

Juliusmalema:
You see, Edo and Yorubas has same name for cat as Ologbo.


Ndigbo calls it Nwonogbo........ Totally different.

History don't lie. Bini and Yorubas should stop fighting reality. You all are one blood.

Different pronunciation

Yoruba ia olorgbo
Edo is Ologbo
Ibo nwangbo

This is to show how benin in the ancient past influenced the entire southern Nigeria

Bini is the only tribe that had influenced between Yoruba and ibo, so if there is a similar world for a particular thing between igbo edo Yoruba, then the benin were the one who shared this word to the both tribe through her influence in ancient times

You can find the world in edo subgroup like Urhobo, okpe, esan

I guess i have schooled you enough aboki

Efewestern:
This is a section where we are allowed to discuss about local culture and recent happenings, I don't need to be from any part or take permission from you before I can make a comment, so I don't see why you should be angry or paranoid.

Ologbo is an Edoid word which means cat, this I'm not disputing because it has same meaning in my language (Onogbo), going by your logic, Eko is also a Bini word, can we have Enojies in Eko?

Even if there should be an Enojie, wouldn't it be fair that he comes from the community?

Ologbo is mixed by edo indigenes and Itsekiri, the itsekiri people settled in Ologbo for trade during precolonial times they were the middle men between Binis and the Europeans, so settling in an edo land does not equate ownership to such lands, and bwfore now, it has always been enogie ruling Ologbo, and not an iyasere, so i would rather culture is maintained and not rather altered with western politics


When you want to be civil and give them their own ruler then we wilk be face with tribal clashes

Ologbo is already a mess from edo and Itsekiri clashes already


Take your opinion to Delta state, if i wss the oba of benin the itsekiri people in Ologbo will be driven back to Delta state

Juliusmalema:
Good, trace una movement from Benin republic, Togo, Northern Cameroon and possibly Niger republic/chad...and Ghana...

That is because this is the only valid map to Benin migration.

Trace your sujourn from West map of Africa....ie West Africa

Thank you...

Fuckofff aboki

Christistruth00:
With all humility ,

the British have thoroughly researched and fully understand the Oba of Benin’s Position.

You're a troll that deserves no reply... Just go away

Christistruth00:
Ologbo also means Cat in Yoruba and Itsekiri is recognised as a Yoruba dialect.

That's a bini word that got into yoruba lexicon through benin influence

Efewestern:
The Ologbo crisis thou. I've some questions to ask, if you don't mind.

Who owns Ologbo? what language do they speak there? Can any Bini man trace his origin to the village? If no, why will an Enogie be forced on the people because the territory is being occupied by a tiny minority?

If the Iyase commits a crime, he should pay, but does that guarantee the installation of a leader who isn't from the community?

What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

Christistruth00:
Would you like it if your Grandson after you nurtured him and he became successful , Powerful and Wealthy suddenly decided to start Claiming that he was your Father ?

Don’t you think it is arrogant?

Was there a grandson or any relationship to begin with in the first place, carry una myth go that side, see as u open mouth won dwell on the myth proper, if they ask you to support benin relationships with proves, you will instantly disappear but if it comes to discuss the mythical non existed tales that has no historical backings your mouth would be wide apart for it


Without any proper research even with common knowledge one would know benin and ife never made any historical encounter in ancient times


Ife has ifa, benin don't
The oba is a God and a king, the ooni is a priest
The benin are pure animus, the ife are pure divinist


I hate been black, people like you who live in self deniers makes black people don't grow

Olu317:
I salute your courage over subduing the rants of this Edo lad . It is pathethic reading each statement from these egocentric Binis [s]whose monarchial structure came to existence via Yorubaland's prince ,who became Ooni later in life.[/s]

Trash atleast we have enlightened ypu it was a made up tales you refused to change, but i will keep dis gracing you yorubas spreading the bemin ife lies of an history to stay relevant

wirinet:
You are contradicting yourself. First you said the itsekiri royalty is of edo origin, then 2 paragraphs later you said itsekiri were opportuned to be of edo origin. We the itsekiri people are not of Benin origin, only the monarchy is. We are mainly of Yoruba origin and few from Igala origin. The itsekiri culture and language has nothing in common with the Benin's save the monarchy. You are talking as if we are a conquered people or a vassal state of Benin.
Does it make any sense that a prince born on edo mother (maybe ishan) can be Olu, but a prince born of Ilaje mother cannot.

You imposter an itsekiri man wont make this useless comment

Try ukwale weed, you can get high but still keep your senses intact

samuk:
They have all gone quite because it's very difficult to fight the truth.

TAO11 is d one dragging their legs out, she cant still believe her lies are ending before her face, but instead to bow down she his still fighting it,

Pushing are kinsmen no choice but give her their support


One of our purpose has been archived on nairaland thanks to the covid lockdown it made history for us, our children wont be bother about the controversy anymore


Our task now is to find the origin of benin, how benin came to exist that is my main goal right now