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hopefulLandlord:
I'm not defending anyone though, I'm explaining how I understand the human psychology and with understanding why people do what they do one can then look for how to correct it or cope with it

jeromeblack just wants to be right and he has obviously refused to look at the whole picture

JeromeBlack:
First, I never said anything about creating wealth. In fact, I mentioned the "mentalities guaranteed to keep one in poverty" which would be different from a "mentality needed to create wealth".

Are you trying to say that someone can have "mentalities guaranteed to keep one in poverty" and still build wealth? Aren't they correlated?

I knew that my post would elicit disagreement and so, I kept the rationalization vague and to the barest minimum.

Of course it would. Maybe if you focus more on having a discussion instead of being right we will be able to get somewhere

You and hopefullandlord agree with the same wicked Nigerian mentality that keeps us down. If the trader was smart, he would have helped us and asked for compensation for the help. We were ready to pay for such assistance. Rather, the trader put his shop at risk because he put himself in a position where he could be accused of helping the culprit as he clearly was a witness to the crime and he was quiet.

Typical Nigerian mentality of helping only himself. If the trader had gotten the sensing of a win-win situation where he both helped us and himself, he would be better off. But no, he kept quiet and wanted to only help himself while we suffered.

It is not really a question of agreeing than observing what is the norm. That does not mean if I was in a similar situation I would do the same

As for the banker, racism/xenophobia/hatred is never justified. You could lose jobs and contracts because of such (is losing jobs/contracts not a guaranteed way to poverty?). Just because some lebanese are bad, it does not mean that all lebanese are bad. Do you hate all christians just because some are heartless liars like butterflyling?

Furthermore, the mentality of the banker was quite dull. Money is money. Just because someone is depositing money in 20 naira notes, it doesnt mean that the person is poor. If you have a shop or sell pure water, a lot of your income comes in small notes. The Lebanese man has many businesses and his pure water business brings him nothing less that 600k a month. He sells three trucks of water in week. The banker's attitude to money is why he will likely never be an entrepreneur.

Well I agree with this but then since you don't know this banker personally I would say that all you have said about the possibility of him not venturing into entrepreneurship is based solely on your assumption. Ironically the same thing you are accusing him of.

Also the trader can be considered a business person or an entrepreneur so once again your point is void in his case because in certain situations, especially in our society, minding your own business can go a long way.

I hope you can see my points

And I hope you can see mine

JeromeBlack:
Misinformed about what?

The mentality needed to create wealth because your examples are totally off point

JeromeBlack:
Well, there are some mentalities that are guaranteed to keep one in poverty. It seems that you agree with such mentality

Evidently you are misinformed

hopefulLandlord:
I'd play the devil's Imapata's advocate

The first scenario, the pure water seller just doesn't want trouble. He doesn't know who you are, doesn't know who the basher is, doesn't know what the situation might escalate to

You'd be surprised that in certain situations it might escalate to the pure water guy having to go bear witness in court or being invited to police station and getting extorted by police, having his time wasted and business affected all because he said he saw who bashed your car

Such scenario brings up the total lack of faith in the system and others. nobody really goes all out to be insincere but when you've been burned once or twice out of your display of sincerity and people around you who aren't as sincere as you (or don't display it as much) are having their lives go smoothly then you might start cutting back on your own display to save you trouble

GBAM!

For Lagos again? Wetin concern agbero with overload?

For the second guy you called a banker, well I think his action might be brought about by his experiences with the Lebanese. I learnt the Lebanese are one of the worst people in Nigeria in terms of how they treat their Nigerian subordinates. he could have family members being treated like slaves and insulted by the Lebanese and saw the money situation as an opportunity to get one back

Indians and Lebanese are the worse

Op, I am yet to understand how this equates to "some people are destined to be poor"

delugajackson:
Animal cruelty is the worst form of wickedness. Forget man's inhumanity to man, even animals aren't spared.

Animals have basic rights and in saner climes, the perpetrator of this dastardly act would be cooling off his a.ss behind bars. In fact, for such an animal that is near extinction, he would not only rot in jail, they will make sure the jail rots on top of him.

That is how they killed an innocent Dolphin in Ibeno the other day, I wept so bitterly. Why do we have savages and all manner of barbarians in this part of the world?

Pictures of you weeping or idonbelievit

Shelumiel:
Since you're not willing to read through the thread , then I'll take that as a rhetorical question.

This is going nowhere

Have a nice day

Shelumiel:
It seems you're not ready. Have a nice day .

He's not ready to do what?

Roh50:
Looking at the pictures, you start asking yourself at what point did things started going wrong in this perfectly looking family? what did she probably do wrong? what ignited the man to do this? Is just so difficult to comprehend as this life keeps getting complicated by the minute, nothing seems right anymore. [s]We will keep praying and hoping for a better world.[/s]

Prayers have never and will never be a logical solution or do you think the woman didn't pray for long life?

alBHAGDADI:
Point of correction, Christianity doesn't move mock itself, it is false people who are giving it a bad name.

As long as you can't find anywhere in the Bible where Christians are commanded to do those ridiculous things you mentioned, you can't label those who engage in such as Christians.

The bible suggest you believe and worship god, a product of medieval illiterate imagination, and that alone is ridiculous.

As for the other part you can argue with your fellow Christians because from where I stand you are all the same. Just imagine you are in a public toilet with different observable feces. No matter how they argue with you about the difference in their color and composition to you they are all sh*t

alBHAGDADI:
No one should pay this thread any attention because it wasn't opened by a believer but someone whose intent has always been to mock Christianity.

Christianity mocks itself and does so better than any unbeliever

From displays of obvious doubts of your god to eating grass, drinking petrol, volunteering as foot mats, begging for money in the name of Jehovah, inaccurate knowledge of your own religion and content of your holy book and other nonsense, Christians are are number one at ridiculing their own religion

tintingz:
Debates about God/s, myths, superstitions etc.

E.g those who believe juju work should come forward for open debates and demonstrate thier juju, it will also be examine.

If this persist, enlightenment will come to Africa.

Lol. Now who's deluded?

Theists know their beliefs are crap but hold on to them for majorly emotional reasons. They are never going to risk their beliefs for the truths or worse admit to being wrong

mmsen:
All great points but so long as the state run schools are poorly funded and run the private schools as operated by churches and religious nutcases will continue to miseducate Nigerian children.

The most annoying part is that Nigeria had one very good, secular school in The Mayflower but ever since Tai Solarin died it has been allowed to go way the way of the country at large with an increased emphasis on superstition and less on reason and self-sufficiency.

I am a product of Mayflower and I agree with how low it has gone.

I remember being in secondary school and the principal then imposed a compulsory "pray for Nigeria" waste of time on Fridays. I made sure I missed everyone

What is annoying is that people still pray to that god despite it's obvious history of failure and incompetence

dingbang:
apparently this will happen on mount Zion.

Where is that located?

dingbang:
E good for am. Was it not written that thou shall not put the lord your God to test.





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Mark 16:18: “They will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them.”

elefind:
Good evening All MFM members in the house, I want to go for this mfm 3 days fasting Prayer Deliverance, please can someone direct me. I based in Lagos and I'm not a member of mfm but I wish to go for deliverance there.

If you are dumb enough to even consider it then you really do need to go there. Stupidity loves company

How much?

tgmservice:
Chai! am 32 and still learning programming basics

And you still don't know the proper usage of "I am" and "am"

UncleSnr:
Me? I already own a plot in Hell na. Although it is not close to his street. @Hahn cheated me.

YOu can only get what you pay for

Wow. This is so nice

Why must Nigerian armed robbers die with their pants down?

It is official. Derenle has lost the war of the wierdos

modelmike7:
Fraud in the things of God is the deadliest!

Be warned Fraudsters!!

god itself is a fraud

FortifiedCity:


To think that this lady looked so astonishing before now.

Life is mysterious and demands humility from every human.

Kechi, your soul is still beautiful Okay. FortifiedCity loves you. Most importantly God Loves you. I wouldn't mind getting you pregnant with nothing attached. This I will do just to preserve your outer beauty through your offsprings.

God loves her but allowed her to be a victim of a plane crash where most of her friends, who were all kids, died tragically

Una dey use una sense so?

winner01:
Johnydon would answer that better. He asked the question.

How will you expect johnnydon22 to answer a question he asked you?

If you don't have an answer to the question let us know and stop wasting people's time

winner01:
That would be Johnydons question.

Where is the answer?

okomile:
The SAR man should also die b hanging.

Tit for tat

And the girl?

pocohantas:
Hold any or all of these keys

No need for the car, right?

winner01:
Maybe I didn't make myself clear, this was my quote.

Doesn't say anything about you being an atheist or not and certainly the question isn't exclusive to atheists.
It's a valid question even when asked to theists, agnostics and other views.

So

Define this "God" first. What is it?

tstx:
God has nothing to do with it bro.... Its just bad genes

So god did not create them?

Holyede:
what about the demons in you? is it cool if i
refer you to a canine psychiatrist?

Lol. YOu are lucky that your mental illness is shared by millions of people around the world and is referred to as religion instead

JackBizzle:
From what I have been reading, butterfly-lying has run mad. He doesnt want to talk to atheists.


I blame Dalaman, hahn, capslocked and hopefullandlord

I have had my fair share of ridiculous arguments with winner01(the meaningless meme lord), kingebukasblog(with his unnecessary use of big words and eventual confusion between deism and christianity) to 4evergod(the serial scammer as it turned out) but I have always avoided that butterflylion for his open display of stupidity.

I'd rather concentrate on my business and family.

No matter how you try you cannot convince an adult that his imaginary friend is not real. Something he/she should have figured out when he became a teenager. At least