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Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 10:19am On Jul 29, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@hakeem4

Yes you will feel bad and there is nothing you can do if all the criminals in a movie didn't face any justice. But you are yet to answer my question. My question is this; wouldn't you have an intuitive feeling that the movie MUST HAVE PART 2 ? Please answer this question with SINCERITY of mind.
well to be honest I do not expect a part 2. I think most of us have seen the movie “brave heart. Since the good person ( William Wallace) was killed and the bad person still lived on. There hasn’t been a part 2
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 7:28am On Jul 29, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
For me, I am wonderfully made. I have morality and ethic, I am subconscious. I am not a product of random chemical reaction. I am made with a very complex system! Do you know any animal that can write?
Well to make you feel bad. You’re poorly designed just take a look at the larynx nerve. Are you telling me your god took time to create a fore skin on your private part only for him to command you to slice it ? ( common that guy up in the cloud isn’t that intelligent grin)

You’ve morals because of your biological makeup determines the presence of three necessary conditions for ethical behavior: (i) the ability to anticipate the consequences of one's own actions; (ii) the ability to make value judgments; and (iii) the ability to choose between alternative courses of action.

Well you’re not as special as you think all other organisms are also subconscious.

The reason you can write has been explained by natural selection. It’s the same reason you can’t fly or see any other light apart from visible light

His name is Dr. David Pilbeam. The portion I quoted shows that he knows that lack of data and subjectivity is a problem in his field. Anthropology and Paleontology are supposed to provide some evidence for us to believe the subjective theory of evolution.

Do you still believe in evolution?
well I didn’t see anywhere he debunked evolution, if you can send me the link to buy the book I would be grateful

Well as a scientist I don’t believe anything. i just follow what the data shows me. And the data shows us that evolution is a fact! You’d only be intellectually dishonest if you don’t acknowledge the fact of evolution
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 7:06am On Jul 29, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@ hakeem4


As I asked you the other time; if you're watching a movie and all the criminals in the movie did not face any justice till the end, then would you be saying crime have a statute limitation or it is very difficult to get evidence for old case? Wouldn't you say this movie must have part 2? So where does this intuition came from ?
So giving flimsy excuses like crime have a statute limitation and that it is very difficult to get evidence for old case can never erase our INTUITION which says a great criminal that escaped justice in this world must surely face justice in the hereafter (part 2). Who is in a position to render this justice other than God ?
Well if all criminals in the movie didn’t face justice I would feel bad but there’s nothing I can do.
Back to reality, If you commit a crime while on earth and you don’t get punished there Is no evidence for the afterlife so I won’t believe in punishment or reward after death


Well who’s god to be the one to determine our morals. God himself is vile, vengeful and a mass murderer. So I don’t think someone with this characteristic should be the one to determine what is right and what is wrong
Christianity EtcRe: Does a Testimony Actually Serve as an Evidence For God? by hakeem4(op): 9:09pm On Jul 28, 2019
tintingz:
Lol, you they mind them? Funny testimonies.

I chatted with a girl on WhatsApp about God and miracles, one of the funniest thing she said was a dwarf grew tall in the presence of the people in church (RCCG). I laughed I almost fainted. I told her to give some proof for this, she said I should check YouTube for the evidence. I don search YouTube I no see anything. I asked to provide the link, till date she has not.

Most religious people will create every fantasies just to validate their God and religion.
Most of these Christians actually get their testimonies from either Facebook post or WhatsApp broadcasts
Christianity EtcDoes a Testimony Actually Serve as an Evidence For God? by hakeem4(op): 12:11pm On Jul 28, 2019
Today I was having a discussion with one of my Christian friend. This discussion somehow led to us talking about god. She started by telling me how god was good in her life and how god provided job for her. While she was talking I was just smiling. She then asked has god not done anything good in my life ? I said no! Immediately she said “do you know sleeping and waking up is a miracle?” I couldn’t control the laughter after that statement. The next thing she began to tell me different testimonies she heard. But the one that caught my attention was when she said she heard of a testimony of how one House was burning and everything got burnt apart from a bible.
I was perplexed. Then I asked her How will an all loving god burn all your property and leave only a bible as a sign he loves you? She couldn’t answer


Do you think testimonies can be used as evidence for god ?


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Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 8:48am On Jul 28, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
Going to hospital does not mean I dont believe in the existence of God. Instead, it makes me to be in awe of how man though, in opposition to the Creator has inadvertently carried out His instruction of "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living animal that moveth upon the earth"
this is one thing I don’t like about believers. The fact that an assumed all loving god will take his time to create harmful viruses and bacteria so his favorite
Specie (Homo sapiens) could die? Well I don’t have to tackle all the statement you made up there. But the bold statement is what is scaring me. The objective truth is that you’re not superior to any organism living now. For the bible to make a claim for you to have dominion means the bible is perfectly wrong


See what the curator of Paleontology at the Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology, while reviewing Richard Leakey's book "Origins" in the journal called "American Scientist" wrote. By the way the man has a P.hd in Paleoanthropology.
“ ...perhaps generations of students of human evolution, including myself, have been flailing about in the dark; that our data base is too sparse, too slippery, for it to be able to mold our theories. Rather the theories are more statements about us and ideology than about the past. Paleoanthropology reveals more about how humans view themselves than it does about how humans came about. But that is heresy."

I guess you reading only are art journals!
well can you mention his name to I can search and read it thoroughly. Probably you just took a part that suits your agenda.
Even if he made that statement it doesn’t still prove evolution wrong.

Trying to disprove evolution is like trying to prove the sun isn’t hot

I wish you Goodluck trying to prove evolution wrong grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 8:18am On Jul 28, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@ hakeem4

You wrote;

Assuming there’s consciousness after death wouldn’t it be stupid for you to be punished for a sin you committed in another dimension. It’s like punishing me for a sin I did while I was in primary school now that I’m in the university.

My reply;

if I take alcohol and then committed an act of rape in that drunken state( primary school) would l be pardoned in the court of law after regaining my consciousness (university) ? Wouldn't I be punished for my offence ?

You wrote:

Punishing me for me for a crime I did on earth while I’m dead won’t bring justice to my victims. Imagine after robbing the bank and I make the community suffer. When I die and I’m in the presence of the heavenly dictator what would be the use if he decides to punish me? Would it make those people who have suffered un-suffer?

My reply:

Again, would I be pardoned in the court of law simply because the little girl I molested can never regain her viginity ? Of course I will be punished even if the girl can never regain her viginity. Similarly you will be punished even if that punishment cannot reverse the suffering the community has gone through. But since God is powerful, He can compensate those members of the community with something better
Well most crimes have statute limitation to them. This limits the time it takes the court to prosecute the offender. Well it depends on your jurisdiction.
The only crime that doesn’t have time limit is a murder case.

The only thing that can bring up the old case is evidence, but it’s difficult to get evidence for an old case

This your logic doesn’t still give evidence for the afterlife
NYSCRe: NYSC Discriminates Against Benin Republic Trained Graduates by hakeem4(m): 9:54pm On Jul 27, 2019
Amastermovic:
this is a good call from Nysc I know of a gal that stays at home and I just saw her serving what kind of nonsense school is that I checked her profile saw the school name Google Search nothing good came out of it
grin but we can’t jump into conclusion like that. But I know many Cotonou schools aren’t standard. But why will NYSC allow them serve in the first place.
RomanceRe: Guys Over To You. This Question Weak Me. by hakeem4(m): 9:50pm On Jul 27, 2019
The girl that made me rich. The one that was with me when I was poor will just be collecting the little stipend I make to buy pizza and cold stone. The one that made me rich is intelligent and would make me richer
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 8:21pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
Science can not bury God.
science hasn’t buried god but you go to the hospital when you’re sick instead of you to go to church/mosque grin

Have you heard that scientist that differ on these theories are asked to leave the academia. Its called scientific dictatorialism.
Well I don’t think this your claim is true. The only people that are always discredited are those who falsify data. Do you think all scientist take an oat saying they will always be against god? It’s probably you’ve not seen scientist discuss a theory, in most cases they’re always against each other. The only way you can be famous in the scientific community is to try and prove a theory wrong. Even the geologist kurt wise who got his PHD from Harvard and he’s a young earth creationist has not been dismissed

So can you mention scientist who was sent away from the academia for not acknowledging the fact of evolution

So, tell me about the missing link that Darwin talks about when he came up with the theory.
Let me try and break it down for you to understand. The term missing link is used by scientist to explain the relationship between two organisms of common ancestors.
For example Darwin proposed that human evolved from an early ape (common ancestor with chimpanzees and bonobos). He said this because of the physical characteristics we have with them. But there was no evidence or method to test his claim as of that time. So since then new generation scientist found the missing link Australopithecus Africanus. Other fossils have be found

Please read scientific journals!
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 7:57pm On Jul 27, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@hakeem4


Well let me just put you through. The only logical reason why robbery is not personally good for me in an atheistic world is that I may end up being killed or sentenced to prison.
But suppose I am a very great and eminent robber that has police commissioner, lawyers, justice and others under my feet. Therefore, the fear of being killed or sentenced to prison is a thing of the past.
Now how would you convinced me that robbery is not personally good for me ?
Think very well. You will notice that there is absolutely no way you can convince me.
Suppose this is how I spend my life until I suddenly die. Don't you think there should be justice for all what I have done ?
If you are watching a movie and such a great and eminent robber did not face any justice till end of the movie, wouldn't you say this movie must have part 2 ? This shows that by intuition we are very sure that such a robber must face justice
And If there is nothing but the life of this world, how would this justice be administered ?
well most atheist might not agree with me, because there’s no universal atheist position on any topic.

Well the truth is that there’s no punishment when you’re dead. But let’s look at it this way. Let me suspend my reasoning so I can put myself in your position. Assuming there’s consciousness after death wouldn’t it be stupid for you to be punished for a sin you committed in another dimension. It’s like punishing me for a sin I did while I was in primary school now that I’m in the university.


Punishing me for me for a crime I did on earth while I’m dead won’t bring justice to my victims. Imagine after robbing the bank and I make the community suffer. When I die and I’m in the presence of the heavenly dictator what would be the use if he decides to punish me? Would it make those people who have suffered un-suffer?
Christianity EtcRe: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by hakeem4(m): 2:17pm On Jul 27, 2019
Martinez39:
For a moment, a moment which was celebrated by jesusjnr, Michellekabod2 became a christian. I mourned the lose of a comrade thinking she was "dead" only for her to report at the barrack a few months later.
. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Thank God! Finally I Don Port! From Atheism To Jesus! Update* Conversion Story. by hakeem4(m): 1:51pm On Jul 27, 2019
Michellekabod2:
Officer Martinez39,your colleague has been revived by the medic,she is Hale and hearty
are you now a believer?
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:44pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
No archeological evidence to support evolution. The search for the missing link has been abandoned.
where do you get your informations from ? I hope it’s not from WhatsApp broadcasts grin posing this statement in 2019 will makes you look ignorant. When you can go to scientific journals and read peer reviewed papers.

I would love to explain it to you but this is the religion section and I’m here to bury god! grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:27pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
There were witnesses.
the same way there are overwhelming evidences supporting evolution.
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:26pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
You can start from how life started before it evolved into various life forms. You dont need to write a very lengthy article, bullet points will do. thanks
Well for now we don’t know how life started but we have the abiogenesis hypothesis that tried to explain how life can begin from non-living matter
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:25pm On Jul 27, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@hakeem4


Yes evolution does not tell what is right or wrong . But do you agree that there must be logical implication of believing in evolution ? Pls tell me why robbery is not personally good for me
what is terrifying me is that a lot of people will do evil if not for the fear of hell fire (afterlife)

Well as an atheist where do I get my morals from? For sure I do not get my morals from any ancient book. Now my moral comes from the fact that I would like build a progressive society and not cause pain or discomfort my neighbour. That’s why when we commit an offence we are punished so others would not do the crime.

So does stealing someone’s property cause the harm if yes, then it’s wrong. But if it’s no , then in my opinion it isn’t wrong
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:12pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
Fact is an observation of an experiment. Observation that is true in present time. Observation that was true in past, can also be a fact. Who then observed evolution?
wow !
Did you witness world war 2 ? If you did not witness it, how did you know it happened ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 1:11pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
Evolution must have a beginning for it to be true. Where did it start from?
well... this is a sign you don’t read. If you had skipped your science classes this question won’t arise. You’re confusing Abiogenesis for evolution.
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 12:56pm On Jul 27, 2019
Abdulgaffar22:
@hakeem4

If evolution is true, pls can you tell me the reason why the act of robbery is not personally good for me ? Or is it good for me to engage in the act of robbery ? Pls answer this very question
evolution does not tell you what is right or wrong. Stop reading that Quran cause there’s no wisdom there
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m): 12:55pm On Jul 27, 2019
NicodemusMusa:
Evolution is hoax! Please dont elevate to status of fact. Its a very fanciful theory.
it is a scientific fact just like gravity also! Do you have anything to prove evolution wrong ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Only True Faith Approved By God For Humanity by hakeem4(m):
OP I don’t get your logic. So because something is popular means it’s right?
Islam is just as useless as Christianity

You said
Abdulgaffar22:
OBJECTION 2;
So if Prophet Muhammad came to revive the original Islam with its MINIMUM requirements explained up there, then why ADDITIONAL requirements like five daily prayers, fasting, Zakat and other compulsory acts in Islam ?
REPLY:
[s]Human beings are not in a position to understand completely the reasons why God commanded us to do some certain things.[/s] Yet we can still use our sense to fathom some of these reasons. The most obvious reason is that God want to test our obedience to His additional commands just like He tested the obedience of Abraham to the command of sacrificing his only son.
Another fathomable reason is that God want to create a specific mode of worship in Islam through which Muslims would be recognized among the people of other faiths.

Please which of the THREE PREMISES explained above is not true ?
With this crap you wrote up there I’m really scared to engage you in an intellectual discuss. If we humans can understand how complex life came to this world and most people still don’t acknowledge the fact of evolution with all the overwhelming evidence brought up, how come you can believe someone/something you don’t understand or have any evidence for

You’re a recipe for disaster!
PropertiesRe: List Of Estate Owned By Lagos State Government| Co-tenant by hakeem4(m): 7:45pm On Jul 24, 2019
Well I did my internship with LSDPC and I can say they’ve one of the best set of engineers
EducationRe: Motunrayo Ajia: Covenant University CGPA 5.0, All Time Best Graduating Student by hakeem4(m): 5:12pm On Jul 23, 2019
toprealman:
thermodynamics is not that hard. Good textbooks + the internet you guys now enjoy can put you through.
i am done with school and I didn’t really use the thermodynamics cause I studied civil engineering
FamilyRe: A Man Has Every Right To Sleep With His Wife After Traditional Marriage by hakeem4(m): 9:35am On Jul 23, 2019
tola9jaa:
Say no to adultry

HealthRe: Solution To Permanently End Plastic Pollution by hakeem4(m): 6:21am On Jul 23, 2019
You can recycle plastic like I do


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAhzQT41A6Y
Christianity EtcRe: What Leaving Religion Feels Like by hakeem4(m): 2:50pm On Jul 22, 2019
grin

TV/MoviesRe: BBNaija: Pregnant Tacha, Has A Child? (Photos) by hakeem4(m): 11:10am On Jul 22, 2019
It should be does Tacha Have not has
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Justice System by hakeem4(m): 7:17am On Jul 21, 2019
Jails are meant to rehabilitate people.
Becoming homosexual doesn’t make one a bad person. That’s just his sexual preference
sulasa07:
Which jail is rehabilitative in this world,it is in prison people engage in homosexual acts,become more rougher than b4,and they learn all other wrong vices.Stop saying prison rehabilitates people,instead it destroys them more.
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Justice System by hakeem4(m): 6:28pm On Jul 20, 2019
johnydon22:
Not necessarily why people are sent to jail.

Here are the major reasons

1. To be punished (ridding one of their fundamental right is the consequence of breaking the rules that binds social contracts).

2. Secure the society: Removing bad eggs from the society directly is consequential to the quality of individuals left and their safety. Isolating criminals (imprisonment) is a way of preventing them from committing said crimes again.


when in jail they teach them how to be morally right. so imagine if i can pay someone to serve a certain percentage of time in jail then when will i learn how to be a good person.But seeing that most prisoners end up getting even more hardened in jail. Isn't that somewhat counterproductive?
so if i am wealthy enough i can pay someone to do my time. While I commit another crime and pay another person and it continues like that. I am of the opinion that if you do the crime you must do the time

It’s like saying you’d pay someone to swallow your drugs when you’re sick. Of what benefit will it be to you
Christianity EtcRe: Christian Justice System by hakeem4(m): 9:50am On Jul 20, 2019
LordReed:
By going to the house of your professional prisoner and being remorseful.
okay let me speak for myself. I do not think it would make me remorseful. I would only go and beg my professional prisoner so I won’t stay in jail but it won’t make me a better person.

My own opinion
EducationRe: Motunrayo Ajia: Covenant University CGPA 5.0, All Time Best Graduating Student by hakeem4(m): 9:41am On Jul 20, 2019
Wizklynd23:
I did Thermodynamics 2 last semester, man na God i dey look o now oo.. I no write better thing for the exams also poor CA
don’t fear. If you fail it you won’t die. Just enjoy life

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