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barcanista:
No my brother, Saraki erred. Even when party zones, it doen't necessarily tell members of each zone to produce their candidate. What it does is to nominate candidates and allow for members to adopt/ratify. All their members decide by election who they want or by consensus. When Between 1999 and 2011 PDP has always nominated principal office holders with members ratifying. Opposition likewise nominate their own principal officers and it is usually done without rancor. Saraki doesn't have any right to propose or suggest how they should be chosen other than following the norms. That is how it is done.

I hope other parties learn from this episode

the election is not the business of the Senate but the APC caucus in the house and from what we heard in the news an earlier election by apc caucus members produced ndume. So, it is still the same thing

barcanista:
I don't want to speak for APC but your question is pushing me to that. Well, the APC has National Working Committee led by the Chairman. This organ make decision on behalf of the party. For the nominees, the Chairman or Secretary acting on behalf of the party send the names to the Presiding officer of the parliament. The Presiding officer reads it and call for adoption or votes by the members of the caucus. The members MAY decide to go with the nomination or decide some other people depending on majority votes. The presiding officer has NOT a single right to suggest, tamper or nominate. If Tinubu has its members, it depends on majority of the House whether or not they wish to be aligned to the position. It isn't subject to the bias of Saraki/Dogara

thanks for your explanation but I don't see where Saraki err here. You rightly said the house party members can decide to follow suit or not. Saraki played on the side of caution. He asked each zone where the party zoned the offices to nominate. He didn't nominate. The party should have directed each zone to nominate the party candidates. For them to nominate someone other than the party choices showed the members didn't rightly agree with the party position. So?

@ barcanista, I agree with you totally but I have a question....who is the party? how do political parties decide their choice of who will be the majority leader? Is it that once tinubu takes a decision and instruct oyegun to write a letter we take it to be the party's decision. While I agree with you that parties should decide the majority or minority leaders, we must know how parties come to such conclusion. If tinubu is as important as taking decision for the party, then Saraki. A former governor, the present senate president can also take decision for the party.

OrlandoOwoh:
Go read the analysis of Oby Ezekwesili, where she took one of the dumbskulls Jonathan surrounded himself with, to the cleaners.

I don't need the analysis of any oby. This is simple economics. Tell oby to analyse if for aregbesola so that aregbesola can use the analysis to borrow and pay debt. I am a businessman and I know if you need a good loan you must prove you don't need the loan by showing the bank you are worth more than the loan. The FG must be worth more than the money they borrowed

OrlandoOwoh:
E ma lo f'ose yi mi o! Didn't Okonjo-Iweala insist our economy was okay?

please now....ma fi ose yi ara re. Orlando owoh was smarter than this. Read this again and if you still don't realise like Okonjo Iweala rightly said that you need a good ECONOMY to be able to BORROW which makes America the country with the strongest economy and largest debt profile at the same time then I give up.......tale. Ask yourself this question ist, why can't aregbesola borrow? You need to be credit worthy for banks to borrow you money. If FG was expecting money in 2weeks time and they felt as a responsible Govt they couldn't wait till that time to pay their workers they could borrow money. Poor people like you don't know you need to be rich to be able to borrow money. In fact, if you want a bank loan, you will prove you don't need a loan. If you need a loan of one million they will make sure you are worth 3 million. That explains why aregbesola can't borrow...he is broke with an empty treasury. you get it? I know you won't. Oya call me a satanoid and abuse me as usual

OrlandoOwoh:
saTANoids are yet to answer how a government that now claims to have money in its reserve borrowed, not for infrastructure, but to pay salaries.

God bless the President.

tale. Ask yourself this question ist, why can't aregbesola borrow? You need to be credit worthy for banks to borrow you money. If FG was expecting money in 2weeks time and they felt as a responsible Govt they couldn't wait till that time to pay their workers they could borrow money. Poor people like you don't know you need to be rich to be able to borrow money. In fact, if you want a bank loan, you will prove you don't need a loan. If you need a loan of one million they will make sure you are worth 3 million. That explains why aregbesola can't borrow...he is broke with an empty treasury. you get it? I know you won't. Oya call me a satanoid and abuse me as usual

OrlandoOwoh:
saTANoids are yet to answer how a government that now claims to have money in its reserve borrowed, not for infrastructure, but to pay salaries.

God bless the President.

all these your TAN this, TAN that is becoming stale. Ask yourself this question ist, why can't aregbesola borrow? You need to be credit worthy for banks to borrow you money. If FG was expecting money in 2weeks time and they felt as a responsible Govt they couldn't wait till that time to pay their workers they could borrow money. Poor people like you don't know you need to be rich to be able to borrow money. In fact, if you want a bank loan, you will prove you don't need a loan. If you need a loan of one million they will make sure you are worth 3 million. That explains why aregbesola can't borrow...he is broke with an empty treasury. you get it? I know you won't. Oya call me a satanoid and abuse me as usual

I hope this is not another attempt to ridicule the man from daura? How can you say the president is now competing with Beyonce for followership on instagram. Serious people rarely have time for photo shoot especially when Boko Haram killed as many as 100 people as recently as yesterday. Did he post the picture of the bomb blast on instagram too? Please, let's be serious for once. It

ComradeAbu:
That the answer to ur question @op

in other word, the change is a fluke. If buhari is going to do what jonathan did, why not continue with jonathan anyway

RevDesmondJuju:
Lai Mohamed is not used to being part of the ruling party.

they are so used to being in the opposition that they even want to sue themselves. If I were the judge I will so much lambast them. What is the legal ground for defence? They were having a meeting with buhari while inaugural meeting was going on and you still had the gut to say you are going to court. When will apc start accepting defeat. The party leadership were defeated by party members they still say they are going to court. Ok

omenka:
And I hate it when people can't seem to distinguish between two very different scenarios.

My grouse has nothing to do with Saraki getting the backing of some renegade APC members and the entire PDP members. My problem has to do with the process/procedure, as it has the stamp of illegality all over it just as renown Lawyer and SAN Robert Clerke said. Why the hurry, why the rush?? Was that the situation with Tambuwal How are the procedures similar??

Please if you can't understand as little as this, just keep your "hate" of "hypocrisy" to yourself.

Thank you.

you are the one that should understand. Why fix a meeting for 9am when the house was to be inaugurated by 10am? So you think the inauguration should be suspended because buhari was meeting with APC? Nobody was in a hurry....some people were only in a wrong place at the right time. blame buhari. Blame the senators that chose a meeting with buhari ahead of their inaugural sitting... it was never the fault of Saraki or pdp....it was a matter of choice and preference

Really? ....this man will never learn. he travelled in 1984, babangida overthrew him. He travelled just before swearing in, he was turned to gate man at downing street. He travelled after swearing in, Saraki and pdp took over the house, now he is travelling again....maybe before he comes back, osibanjo would have submitted the ministerial list to the Senate. this president should sit down at home for once and work

omenka:
What happened in the National Assembly, especially the Senate, was highly provocative and condemnable. Had Buhari not been the democrat he is, those guys would have had the bums toasted by tear gas just as the immediate past admin did.

The Party's position should be held and respected over and above anyone else's personal opinions.

Very sad development for party politics honestly.

If APC didn't condemn the emergence of tambuwal in the last house against the wish of the then ruling party, they have no moral right to do so today

It started with old PDP
Which came to an end with the new PDP
Otherwise known as APC
Which is gradually becoming a new APC
Which is essentially OLD PDP
according to a confession by lai moh'd.
In short, lai moh'd has just confessed that PDP has hijacked the change with new APC.
If you tambuwal me, I will Saraki you

Source; Daily post


APC accuses Saraki, Dogara of being pro-PDp.



The All Progressives Congress, APC, on Wednesday noted that the present composition of the leadership of the National Assembly, which has the Upper Chamber headed by Senator Bukola Saraki, and the Lower Chamber by Yakubu Dogara, was pro-Peoples Democratic Party, PDP.

This was disclosed by the party’s National Publicity Secretary, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, on Channels Television’s Sunrise Daily monitored in Abuja. He insisted that the action of some of its members which resulted in what transpired during the inauguration of the 8th National Assembly on Tuesday was deserving of punishment.

According to him, “What we have in the Senate now is a pro-PDP Senate which is not in the interest of our party. How do you expect us to sit with Ekweremadu and Mark and discuss matters of national importance?


“These are part of the old Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, order we struggled to defeat at the centre. So how can we then sit down with them to discuss issues of national importance with these people?” he asked.

When reminded that the APC still controls majority at the National Assembly, Mohammed noted that the parliament’s leadership as currently constituted is an ally of the PDP, “because it got its mandate through the block votes of the PDP. Remember, there were only eight APC Senators who voted for Saraki. The balance which is 49 are from PDP. In the House of Representatives, only 30 APC members voted for Yakubu Dogara. So you can see that the National Assembly is pro-PDP.

“They even overreached themselves by naming David Mark as the Senate Leader before they realised the illegality of their action and reverse themselves.”

Tinubu is a ‘local champion’, Saraki, Dogara have ended his political career – Bode George
The APC spokesman further noted that inasmuch as the party will not want to lose its members, those involved will still be sanctioned because, “the indiscipline should not be allowed to go just like that. If this is allowed to go, then it means any member can perpetrate bigger indiscipline and hope to get away with it.”

Fourcade:
Those in front are blocking the flags.Deal with it! Nigeria is being respected o nce again .

Go find another excuse and wait for good observers to refute your claims

@Op. . .nice observation.

you guys are all kids. Look at what you are debating. Buhari in front? I am ashamed of your inferiority complex. By the way, he must be in front in this pix. The heads of states are in front while organisations like IMF, are at back. No single head of state is at the back so nobody is blocking any flag.

Buhari should stop breaking his promises so early now.....he promised never to intervene in NASS elections. He promised to work with whoever emerges. Why trying to arm twist them now? Baba....there is God ooooo

Jesus....and APC had the gut to criticise ekiti state lawmakers for acknowledging fayose. this is serious. You mean somebody that represents all of us in lagos state is now representing a single individual. All of us can as well line up to go and represent tinubu. Very soon, oba akiolu too will start representing tinubu. Na wah o

At last, they are willing after so much pressure is being mounted on them I just discovered something, buhari will not work unless we mount pressure on him. It is only the opposition that can help buhari to perform, he has no will to do anything.

But the vice president, osibanjo can lick tinubu's ass....that one is democracy. APCeeeee.....hypocrite!!!

Beremx:
ok

#notimeforsillyarguments

you are making false allegations and you are not ashamed to talk about argument. Apologise for spreading your lies as usual

Burger01:
This tout is the problem of the infrastructure people in Ekiti state

yes o, unlike aregbesola that is working seriously to make osun state another paradise for citizens. One of the doctors just sent me SOS message yesterday cos he is about to die of hunger induced by aregbesola

Whaoh......Sai buhari

Just 3 days into buhari Govt, EFCC is now withdrawing cases....i thought they said we need more prisons. Yeye dey smell

Fayose is a sharp man....they thought they can just chop and clean mouth while still demonising the governor.

I copied this from Facebook page of
Lere Olayinka, SA to governor fayose on media

Ekiti Govt confirms paying APC lawmakers entitlements

Ekiti State government has described as falsehood and dishonesty, claim by the All Progressives Congress (APC) lawmakers that they have not been paid their entitlements.

The government said in a statement issued on Sunday by the State Commissioner for Finance, Chief Toyin Ojo that the lawmakers duly acknowledged receipt of cheques for their payments last week Wednesday through his office.

The government was reacting to a statement issued by one Wole Olujobi, who claimed to be the lawmakers' spokesperson that Governor Ayodele Fayose placed embargo on the lawmakers bank accounts and did not pay them their entitlements.

The statement read; "We would have remained silent in deference to the agreement reached at the last Monday meeting in Akure that all parties should maintain silence on the outcome of the meeting, especially because the lawmakers said they do not want their leaders to know the outcome of the meeting.

However, since the lawmakers have chosen not to abide by this agreement by first issuing press statement to deny and reveal what was discussed in the meeting, and now going to the press to say that they have not received any payment, the government does not have any other option than to tell the public the truth and set the records straight.

"The government is by this press statement putting the records straight since the money paid to the lawmakers belong to Ekiti people.

"The payment was made in cheques because the lawmakers pleaded that their accounts should not be credited directly so as to avoid the banks from making deductions for loans taken from the banks.

"Saying that they have not been paid is quite unfortunate and unbecoming of honourable members of the State House of Assembly and this is sad.

"We will want to keep our fingers crossed and we wish to caution the lawmakers to adhere strictly to the spirit of the agreements.

"Governor Fayose's good gesture, aimed at ensuring peace in the State should not be abused."

PassingShot:
You keep asking the same question because you have refused to listen!

The Code of Conduct Bureau will need to verify all assets declared by Buhari and his vice before it can be made public, and that will take not less than a month according to how the CCB works. It is the reason why the assets can not be made public now - CCB verification. This explains why Yar'Adua waited a month before he could make it public.

I am honestly tired of saying the same thing.

my dear you are saying rubbish. You don't assume in law. There is no law that says CCB must must verify before it can be made public. Wether it is made public or not does not concern the CCB. Quote the law here that says You must wait till after CCB verification before going public. You think everybody us a fool that will just accept your baseless propaganda without proof

PassingShot:
You're unstable, I understand your type.

Read your earlier post and see if it shows any respect as you want people to believe. Pay attention to the emboldened part.

Now to help educate you, I referred you to a thread but you refused to read. How else can I help your case?

Yar'Adua who remains the only person to make his assets public did it after a full month; which is in line with what was explained in the thread you don't want to read.

Did Buhari say he would declare his asset publicly within 48 hours? The president submitted his asset declaration form even before he was sworn in. The assets will have to be verified and thereafter, they can be made public. Even if he doesn't do it, the FOI bill can make anyone obtain it from CCB.

You're too naïve and you need more lessons in life. Don't quote me any further because I will not reply you.

why are you like this? I am telling you what will happen. That I may not call buhari names does not mean others won't call him names. In fact, they will abuse him. Did yaradua promise during campaign that he would declare his asset publicly? No he didn't. He only declared it as an after thought. Buhari on the other hand campaigned that he was going to publicly declare his asset. Why wait till one month? Is there any law that says you must wait for one month? Is yaradua going to be the constitution or pace setter for buhari. Maybe you forgot nigerian nicknamed yaradua Mr slow. That he even declared after one month was fast by yaradua standard. So if this is another slow regime, let us know. Please, let me quote you again. Are you so tired of calling me child of anger. Fool

PassingShot:
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Make sure you don't commit suicide over President Buhari. It's an advice.

Me? You are a clown. I am only asking my president to do what he promised. Unlike you, till may 29, GEJ was my president and I never abused him. Today, buhari is my president and he has my respect. This is democracy. Buhari is answerable to all...Wether we vote for him or not. you are the one that shouldn't commit suicide over somebody that belongs to everybody

PassingShot:
Child of anger, hope you know how to read and understand.
https://www.nairaland.com/2348081/buhari-how-declare-asset-publicly#34276751

As per your 5k, send your account details to the presidency.

I am not interested in your childish attack. You either call people that are asking legitimate question child of anger, haters etc. That's pathetic for an advocate of change. I don't need to read your diversionary thread. Did buhari promise to declare his asset publicly or not? What is the basis for declaring one secretly ist with the hope of declaring another one later? Kindly show me where it is written in the law that buhari must not make his asset public until he declares it secretly to CCB ist? Buhari must retrace his steps latest by tommorrow and declare the number of cows in his farm with immediate effect otherwise you will soon get tired of calling people child of anger when they saying... SHAME BABA

PassingShot:
What is perfect in a statement/question that a ten year old cannot even ask?

I said you guys are children and I mean it. Go to school for proper education so you can make logical statements.

you are just making noise. Transparency demands he makes it public at the same time he is submitting it to the CCB. He can steal billions within one week and later declare it as part of his asset and nothing will happen. He is not bound by law to make it public but he promised and if he can't fulfil a simple promise of publicly declaring his asset, I wonder when the unemployed will start getting their 5k monthly stipend

Mynd44:
1. He said he will declare it publicly within 100 days. It ain't 100 days yet

2. Has any money being appropriated to the "First lady" or "the wife of the president's office"?

3. Buhari has always said they wont waste time probing people but draw a line from May 29. He only said certain cases will be looked into because of the amount involved.

You guys make this thing too easy for the pro-Buharis

Ok. You think you are making sense abi? Why not wait till after 100days before declaring the asset secretly? So he declared one secretly yesterday and he will declare another one later and you think that is transparent? So we should wait till 100days when billions could have been stolen before knowing his asset? Clap for yourself. The law says he must declare his asset before performing any function as president. If he knew he won't declare it publicly he shouldn't have promised.
2) do they appropriate any money for the office of the ist lady even during jonathan regime? Office of the ist lady is not recognised by the constitution so they don't appropriate any money or you can tell us which regime appropriated money for that office if you know and that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
3) corruption is not determined by the amount of money involved. It is the same thing as jonathan saying how much did mwobodo stole?