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GavelSlam:University Of Notre Dame endowment is $13 billion, a little less than MIT's $16 billion endowmen and far higher than UCLA's endowment of $2 billion. Can you tell me how the existence of these worship centers inhibit the establishment of factories. The real estate market is a free market, anyone that wants to buy land is free to purchase. Infact churches are free to buy up unused factories while companies are free to buy up closed down churches and turn them to factories. The church establishment is a matter of demand and supply. As long as there are people who need these spaces for worship then they would continue to spring up. If you want factories get it the way other countries get it. Fact is there are over 80 million christians in Nigeria and they must have places to worship lest we would block the roads like the muslims and there is nothing you can still do about it. |
GavelSlam:The University Of Notre Dame is a top rated Catholic Research University in USA and one of the most beautiful and wealthiest universities in the world. |
GavelSlam:Thankfully, the church has enough schools and laboratories. At our last count the Catholic arm of the church is serving over 3 million students at secondary and elementary levels only. We are proud to have built Georgetown university, Notre dame which are top 1% of universities globally. Yonsei built by missionaries in South Korea is one of the elite SKY institutions in SK. Seriously you don't want to bring education into this argument. |
"It is only irresponsible people who elect and cheer wrong leaders but blame economic woes on the Church's refusal to commercialise." Factories and Churches Are Not Correlational - the existence of one doesn't hinder the creation of the other. Technically, Nigeria can afford to build thousands of factories even with thousands of churches in place. Yet the total removal of every single church in Nigeria would not add a single factory into Nigeria. So i wonder why every single church dedication sparks debate about industralization. Church Funding is Private The funding of the church comes from an association of people who agree to fund christian activities. The scorecard of the church in acheiving this is quite debatable, even, the expectations of what church funds should be used for is arguable within the confines of Christianedom. But certainly, it is undebatable that the church has no biblical mandate that insist it must build industries. The church doesn't receive allocation from the government, therefore its priorities and expenditure should be left for members to determine and direct. The Church Money Isn't Nigeria's Money: It would interest critics of the church to know that the money of the Church doesn't belong to any one nation. Much of the money being spent by major Christian organizations in Nigeria are collected from many other countries, therefore it can not be responsible for the economic revitalization of Nigeria. "Is The Church Afraid Of Taxation?" I have heard many assert that churches avoid industries to avoid taxes but yet it is totally incorrect and false. 1) Churches pay taxes: Nigerian indigenous churches e.g Winners, RCCG etc exist in multiple countries. Some of those countries require taxes while others don't. 2) Church schools pay taxes: Covenant university pays millions in CITtaxes under it's Campus Business Units. Yet, that doesn't make Winners Chapel's income taxable.(NB: Income from campus businesses form the IGR basis of both public and private school) Therefore the creation of industries wouldn't make a church taxable, rather the industries themselves would pay taxes. Why Churches Build Schools Rather Than Industries: I have not seen the factory built by Pope francis neither have i seen the one built by Archbishop welby of England. People underestimate the importance of assimilated culture. Christianity as practiced today in Nigeria is an importation from Europe and the USA. While these foreign churches built thousands of hospitals and schools there is a total snub on industralization. The assumption is that schools gives the church the opportunity to impart the gospel into young people at a developmental age while teaching them secular subjects. The Divine Mandate Listen to Oyedepo, Sam Adeyemi, Enenche, Ibeoymie etc and you would hear pastors who are thorough advocates of entrepreneurship and capitalism. Many of them take business classes and consistently talk about the importance of businesses to the individual and the economy. But one wonders why these pastors never get into businesses themselves. Could it be that God doesn't want His Churches to delve in that direction? Industralization May Shift Church Focus: At the core of commercialization is profitability, at the core of the Church is the Gospel. For the church, money is a means to an end and not the end itself. If the church goes into establishing for profit companies, then the church may just lose it's focus. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=354628338637615&id=226796954754088 Lalasticlala |
So the church should provide industries, free education, free healthcare and even provide weapons for the Nigerian army i bet the product of the industries must be free.This freeze needs to show me the industry built by Joseph Prince of singapore or show me or the weapon of mass destruction bought by TD jakes of USA. Lalasticlala |
Too many abnormal people living in Nigeria. Okowa offers to pay 9 million naira(govt money) per each super eagle goal.... Fools did not complain Linda Ikeji buys 100 million naira car for a baby who can't even speak yet.... Fools did not advise her to build industries. Millions spent on .... pilgrimage.... Fools do not remember industries. An association of individuals exceeding 100,000 in population decided to build a building that would contain them all at once... Fools remembered industries and soldiers without weapons.... No, Enenche is supposed to pack them to a major road in Abj and hold services. Afterall the muslims also block roads. |
Lalasticlala |
Factories and churches are not correlational - the existence of one doesn't hinder the other. Technically, Nigeria can afford to build thousands of factories even with thousands of churches in place. Yet the total removal of every single church in Nigeria would not add a single factory into Nigeria so i wonder why every single church dedication sparks debate about industralization. Church Funding is Private - The funding of the church comes from an association of people who agree to fund christian activities. The scorecard of the church in acheiving this is quite debatable, even, the expectations of what church funds should be used for is arguable within the confines of Christianedom. But certainly, it is undebatable that the church has no biblical mandate that insist that it must build industries. "Is The Church Afraid Of Taxation?" I have heard many assert that churches avoid industries to avoid taxes but yet it is totally incorrect and false. 1) Churches pay taxes: Nigerian indigenous churches e.g Winners, RCCG etc exist in multiple countries. Some of those countries require taxes while others don't. 2) Church schools pay taxes: Covenant university pays millions in CITtaxes under it's Strategic Business Units. Yet, that doesn't make Winners Chapel's income taxable. Therefore the creation of industries wouldn't make a church taxable, rather the industries themselves would pay taxes. Why Churches Build Schools Rather Than Industries: I have not seen the factory built by Pope francis neither have i seen the one built by Archbishop welby of England People underestimate the importance of assimilated culture. Christianity as practiced today in Nigeria is an importation from Europe and the USA. While these foreign churches built thousands of hospitals and schools there is a total snub on industralization. The assumption is that schools gives the church the opportunity to impart the gospel into young people at a developmental age while teaching them secular subjects. The Divine Mandate Listen to Oyedepo, Sam Adeyemi, Enenche, Ibeoymie etc and you would hear pastors who are thorough advocates of entrepreneurship and capitalism. Many of them take business classes and consistently talk about the importance of businesses to the individual and the economy. But one wonders why these pastors never get into businesses themselves. Could it be that God doesn't want His Churches to delve in that direction? Industralization May Shift Church Focus: At the core of commercialization is profitability, at the core of the Church is the Gospel. For the church, money is a means to an end and not the end itself. If the church goes into building companies, then the church may just lose its meaning. |
A lesson for Nigerian billionaires. |
$1.8 Billion is Largest Single Grant In US history by an Alumnus Bloomberg has now granted John Hopkins a total of $3.3 Billion( > N1 trillion ) in his lifetime. Bloomberg started his donation spree with a $5 grant to John Hopkins a year after he graduated from John hopkins university. Bloomberg has pledged another $350 million to john hopkins. Commendation and Criticism follow the billionaire as many believe he should hace donated the money into a public university rather than a private university with an already large endowment. In totality Bloomberg has spent $6.4 billion(>2 trillion naira) on education in the US. This grant by Blomberg alone exceeds the budget for Universities in Nigeria for 10 years. Admissions process “forever need-blind.”https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/local/education/bloomberg-gives-johns-hopkins-a-record-18-billion-for-student-financial-aid/2018/11/18/8db256cc-eb4e-11e8-96d4-0d23f2aaad09_story.html |
Corrinthians:Are Nigerians now better off with the 'highly effective' man currently in aso rock. |
I mean it is too much. |
You might as well tell us that Isreal is an Illuminati country. |
Lol radarada Lalasticlala |
Ogaonos:I get your point. But remove private schools from your statement. Graduates of Ambassador college or faith academy are not half baked. |
I say part privatisation might just be the way forward for Nigerian higher education. ASUU has successfully depicted a grim picture of the public uni system. However, this rot isn't peculiar to Higher education. Our healthcare system is rottened, our secondary schools are rottened, our physical infrastructure is rottened, our power sector is rottened, our security apparatus is rottened so it is impractical to have a sudden surge in budgetary allocation to universities without having negative impact across other sectors. This is why ASUU must put on its thinking cap and seek for ways to partner with the private sector to generate funds. One of the beauty of university autonomy is that you must ensure your very own survival. The average federal school is richer than the average private school yet the rot is more apparent at the federal level - this is because the vast majority of problems do not have funding at its core. Even if the problem is funding then respond by cutting enrollment down. Example: If govt gives Unilorin funding that can adequately support 2,000 new students, Unilorin shouldn't admit 10,000 students. Only admit the number of students ur funding can support. It is not the business of a university to increase access for the Nigerian populace, let the Education ministry worry about that. If Education Ministry ask for higher enrollment, you should ask for higher funding. One of the reasons why UI is highly rated is that it has a lower student enrolment than its counterpart. So Unilorin collects a little lower in FG allocation but has 150% more enrollment. UI while cutting enrollment for students did not cut staff size therefore govt is forced to pay more to UI than Unilorin which is twice bigger. Caltech(USA) has just 3,000 students yet ranked top 10 Globally Rice university(USA)has 3000 students yet ranked top 100 globally. POSTECH(SKorea)admits 300 students yearly yet top 100 globally Ecole Normale Superierue de cashan(France) has 1,631 students yet top 100 globally. Well Lalasticlala this is a must for FP. |
ASUU again |
The Secondary School, ISI was founded and established by a British-German Educator Kurt Hahn a Christian in October 1963 with funding from USAID, Ford Foundation and donation of land space by the Nigerian Western Regional Government. Most of the pioneer teaching staff were British expatriates’ educators from Gordonstoun in Scotland.Can you just imagine. NSCIA and MURIC are trouble makers. Lalasticlala |
Lalasticlala |
With that kind of instruction, just know that the questions na die. |
How can you insist that a private school must make exceptions for only you guys. Have you ever seen CAN fighting this kind of useless fights all over the country. Rather their members establish their own schools and run it as they like. In Oyedepo schools tuesday, 8-10am is dedicated for church services and nobody complains. The height of silliness would then be clamouring for the same thing in public schools. Moral of the story: if you want schools where they learn Qur'an every morning sef just go and establish them and nobody will even bother you. Go to ansarudeen, nasfat schools and stop disturbing us. |
SpoiltVirgin:No, they are different. |
Lalasticlala pls fp |
Standardcosting: ![]() Better by far people would soon come for your head. |
whitebeard:The selection process for this thing is very rigorous, almost all universities in Nigeria applied. We are talking about $7million in funding per university. World bank is not stupid to throw that money at an unserious uni. Prof. Fagbohun has also done incredibly well to change Lasu for good as Lasu is the only state university picked. The first round of ACE funding in Nigeria was very successful that World Bank decided to expand the number of Nigerian universities partaking in it. All that Ebola detection kit and Monkey pox diagnostics done by Redeemers uni was a product of the World Bank funding of previous years. |
NAS the only organization more hopeless than ASUU. |
Any man who wants to go far in life must know how to control the dangling stuff inbetween his legs. It has brought down many great men before and would still bring down a lot more. |
Good. In the process pls also sell the two airports. |
Rhe day a CNN reporter is going to run into problems in one country then it wld be Trump's pay back time cos he will pretend as if he doesn't know cnn. |
fergie001:Well, most of Nigeria's Nature publications emanate from UI which is evidence of top notch faculty in that specialty. It is however not evidence of top notch facility or good funding as most of UI's reputable publications are co-authored with foreign varsities. However, if UI is made a flagship university with increased funding then it would be able to localise its research which would bode well for the Nigerian public. So while UI has great academics like Gureje Oye, there is real dearth in funding than can allow them explore the full breadth of their intellect. UI, UNN, ABU hover about 11-15 billion naira per annum in FG allocation. However, in light of UI's excellent track records we(UI academics and enlightened members of the public) are requesting 30 billion naira/annum in funding for UI. If this is done it would cause a ripple effect in the NUS as UI is the leading provider of PG graduates into the NUS. But this call has repeatedly fallen on deaf ears as the people in Govt are guided by nepotism and tribalism when formulating policies... Chartey:Sorry you, don't be an emotional wreck. So i won't make fp if it was CU Data point for CU is not out yet. If it does i am bringing it here. Yes i am chief publicist of Living Faith and every other church and i am glad you know it. No,your Nigerian doctors need constant validation to ascertain the credibility of their certificate less it would be rejected by the foreign context. writerights:Yea but the funding is still poor. I imagine what UI could do if given more funding in Medical sciences. |
University Of Nigeria Nsukka is the second and last Nigerian University in the rankings for Medical sciences. Bifrost codetemplar asuustrike1 chiefolododo christejames
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i bet the product of the industries must be free.