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[size=15pt]A Monster of Our Own Creation[/size]

He was our kind of guy until he wasn’t, an ally during the Cold War until he no longer served our purposes. The problem with Osama bin Laden was not that he was a fanatical holy warrior; we liked his kind just fine as long as the infidels he targeted were not us but Russians and the secular Afghans in power in Kabul whom the Soviets backed. 

But when bin Laden turned against us, he morphed into a figure of evil incarnate, and now three decades after we first decided to use him and other imported Muslim zealots for our Cold War purposes, we feel cleansed by his death of any responsibility for his carnage. We may make mistakes but we are never in the wrong. USA! USA!

Kind of like when the CIA assigned the Mafia to assassinate Fidel Castro and the Mafiosi turned out to have their own agenda, or when Pentagon experts anointed the Catholic nutcase Ngo Dinh Diem as the George Washington of predominately Buddhist South Vietnam before they felt the need to execute him. A similar fate was suffered by Saddam Hussein, whose infamous Baghdad handshake with Donald Rumsfeld stamped him as our agent in the war to defeat the ayatollahs of Iran.

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A 2001 video image shows Osama bin Laden
at an undisclosed location.

Awkward, I know, to point out that bin Laden was another of those monsters of our creation, one of those Muslim “freedom fighters” that President Ronald Reagan celebrated for having responded to the CIA’s call to kill the Soviets in Afghanistan. That holy crusade against infidels was financed by Saudi Arabia and armed with U.S. weapons to oppose a secular Afghan government with Soviet backing but before Soviet troops had crossed the border. In short, it was an ill-fated and unjustifiable intervention by the U.S. into another nation’s internal affairs. 

Don’t trust me on this one. Just read the 1996 memoir by former Carter administration security official and current Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a book touted by its publisher as exposing “Carter’s never-before-revealed covert support to Afghan mujahedeen—six months before the Soviets invaded.” This dismissal of the claimed Cold War excuse for the backing of the mujahedeen was acknowledged by President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who, when asked by the French magazine Le Nouvel Observateur if he regretted “having given arms and advice to future terrorists,” answered that he did not: “What is most important to the history of the world? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?”

That was said three years before some of those “stirred-up Muslims” like bin Laden and the alleged 9/11 plot mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed—whom bin Laden financed, and whom he first met in Afghanistan when both were U.S.-backed fighters—launched their deadly attacks on the United States. The cost of the American response to that assault has spiraled upward for a decade. A defense budget that the first President Bush had attempted to cut drastically because the Cold War was over was pushed to its highest peacetime level by the second President Bush and now with three wars under way equals the military expenditures of all of the world’s other nations combined.

But while Libya and Iraq have oil to exploit, what will be the argument for continuing the interminable war in Afghanistan now that bin Laden is gone? White House national security experts had already conceded that there were fewer than a hundred scattered al-Qaida operatives in Afghanistan, and that these were incapable of mounting anti-U.S. attacks. Clearly, what remains of al-Qaida is no longer based in Afghanistan, as the location of bin Laden’s hiding place, in a military hub in Pakistan, demonstrated. Nor is there any indication that the Taliban we are fighting in Afghanistan are anything but homegrown fighters with motives and leadership far removed from the designs of the late bin Laden.

It is time to concede that the mess that is Afghanistan is a result of our cynical uses of those people and their land for purposes that have nothing to do with their needs or aspirations. Even if bin Laden had been killed in some forlorn cave in Afghanistan, it would not have made the case that he was using that country as a base. But the fact that he was in an area amply populated by the very Pakistani military and intelligence forces that we have armed, and that should have been able to easily nab him, gives the lie to the claim that Afghanistan is vital territory to be secured in what two administrations have now chosen to define as the war on terrorism. 

Source: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_monster_of_our_own_creation_20110504/

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Al-Qaeda created by CIA

[size=17pt]Al Qaida vows revenge over killing[/size]

Al Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden on Friday and vowed revenge, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness" in the first statement by the terror network since its leader was killed in a US commando raid against his Pakistani hideout.

Terror experts have said bin Laden's death on Monday was a setback for al Qaida but the threat of attacks remains and could even spike in coming days from individuals or small extremist groups inspired to take revenge for the killing.

The statement, dated Tuesday but posted on Friday on militant websites, opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and a likely contender to take his place.

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"The blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is too precious to us and to all Muslims to go in vain," the statement said. "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries."

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

Rather than making vehement cries of vengeance, the al Qaida statement - entitled You lived as a good man, you died as a martyr - struck a tone of calmness and continuation. Though it included praise of bin Laden, much of the 11-paragraph statement was dedicated to underlining that al Qaida would live on, depicting him as just another in a line of "martyrs" from the group.

"It is impossible, impossible. Sheikh Osama didn't build an organisation to die when he dies," the statement read. "The university of faith, Quran and jihad from which bin Laden graduated will not close its doors," it added.

"The soldiers of Islam will continue in groups and united, plotting and planning without getting bored, tired, with determination, without giving up until striking a blow," the statement.

It said bin Laden was killed "along an established path followed by the best of those who came before him and those who will come after him." In the statement, al Qaida also called on Pakistanis to rise up in revolt against its leaders to "cleanse the shame." It also said that an audio message bin Laden recorded a week before his death would be issued soon.

The writers of the statement appeared unaware of the announcement by American officials that bin Laden's body had been buried at sea. The statement warned against mishandling or mistreating bin Laden's body and demanded that be handed over to his family, saying "any harm (to the body) will open more doors of evil, and there will be no one to blame but yourselves."

Source: http://news.aol.co.uk/main-news/story/al-qaida-confirms-bin-ladens-death/1793285/?icid=main

[size=17pt]Al Qaida vows revenge over killing[/size]

Al Qaida confirmed the killing of Osama bin Laden on Friday and vowed revenge, saying Americans' "happiness will turn to sadness" in the first statement by the terror network since its leader was killed in a US commando raid against his Pakistani hideout.

Terror experts have said bin Laden's death on Monday was a setback for al Qaida but the threat of attacks remains and could even spike in coming days from individuals or small extremist groups inspired to take revenge for the killing.

The statement, dated Tuesday but posted on Friday on militant websites, opens the way for the group to name a successor to bin Laden. His deputy Ayman al-Zawahri is now the most prominent figure in the group and a likely contender to take his place.

https://www.cbn.com/CBNNews_Files/images11/world/PakProtestUBL2_LG.jpg

"The blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is too precious to us and to all Muslims to go in vain," the statement said. "We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries."

"Soon, God willing, their happiness will turn to sadness," it said, "their blood will be mingled with their tears."

Rather than making vehement cries of vengeance, the al Qaida statement - entitled You lived as a good man, you died as a martyr - struck a tone of calmness and continuation. Though it included praise of bin Laden, much of the 11-paragraph statement was dedicated to underlining that al Qaida would live on, depicting him as just another in a line of "martyrs" from the group.

"It is impossible, impossible. Sheikh Osama didn't build an organisation to die when he dies," the statement read. "The university of faith, Quran and jihad from which bin Laden graduated will not close its doors," it added.

"The soldiers of Islam will continue in groups and united, plotting and planning without getting bored, tired, with determination, without giving up until striking a blow," the statement.

It said bin Laden was killed "along an established path followed by the best of those who came before him and those who will come after him." In the statement, al Qaida also called on Pakistanis to rise up in revolt against its leaders to "cleanse the shame." It also said that an audio message bin Laden recorded a week before his death would be issued soon.

The writers of the statement appeared unaware of the announcement by American officials that bin Laden's body had been buried at sea. The statement warned against mishandling or mistreating bin Laden's body and demanded that be handed over to his family, saying "any harm (to the body) will open more doors of evil, and there will be no one to blame but yourselves."

Source: http://news.aol.co.uk/main-news/story/al-qaida-confirms-bin-ladens-death/1793285/?icid=main|uk-ws-bb|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.co.uk%2Fmain-news%2Fstory%2Fal-qaida-confirms-bin-ladens-death%2F1793285%2F#

Sagamite:
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You are reetard!!!
No 1, you must be a cretin to think someone will never have seen a northerner abroad and be expecting a Yes or No answer.

No 2, you must be a dumbo not to note my response about Northerners scarcity abroad in my post.
Fooool![/size]

Sagamite:
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You are reetard!!!
No 1, you must be a cretin to think someone will never have seen a northerner abroad and be expecting a Yes or No answer.

No 2, you must be a dumbo not to note my response about Northerners scarcity abroad in my post.
Fooool![/size]

sbeezy8:
SAGAMITE dont know wtf hes talking about

Sagamite is the master of insults and name calling on Nairaland.

Sagamite:
You surely are the greatest reetard on NL ever.

UN and rebels have been one army since 2002 when Gbagbo was President and UN were peacekeepers.

Bloody cretin!

So you agree that they are one army against the FDS Bloody cretin!

Sagamite:
[size=19pt]You are a cretin!
Bloody Reetard!!![/size]

Sagamite:
[size=19pt]You are a cretin!
Bloody Reetard!!![/size]

Sagamite:
You are reetarded!

Assisting rebels to take out Gbagbo means they have been one army since 2002?

Bloody cretin!

So how many "million" websites also say UN killed 2300?

Yes they have been one army since 2002, the Licorne is in Cote d'ivoire even before 2002 they came since 2000 at the Bima in Abidjan. Do your own research that you never want to do before posting your usual crap and insults!!!
Go to any website you want, if you care about the victims and if you dont care about the victims then go to **** your ******

Sagamite:
[size=19pt]Do you take drugs? Or you are dumb?[/size]

Sagamite:
[size=19pt]Do you take drugs? Or you are dumb?[/size]

Is there a Moderator here?

Sagamite:
You are reetarded!

I should do my research from a pro-Gbagbo website like you?

UN and French troops form one army with rebels?

Bloody Cretin!

There is millions of website why you want to do your research on one website only?
And yes the UN the french troops and the rebels are all one united army in Cote d'ivoire against the FDS. Do your own research that you never want to do before posting your usual crap and insults!!!

randyorton:
Sagamite,all u do on nl is fight other members.are the moderators not seeing all your crap. son of a monkey

I agree with you 100%

Sagamite:
You are reetarded!

What has Ouattara forces killing xyz got to do with your moooronic claims that the UN killed 2300 people?

You want to strawman me?

Ouattara forces the UN and La Licorne (french army) fight together, they form one army, and yes they killed more than 2300 people, in fact 10.000 since 2002. Do your own research that you never want to do before posting your usual crap and insults!!!

Sagamite:
You are reetarded!

What has this got to do with your moooronic claims that the UN killed 2300 people in one day and no one reported it?

The bombardment hapened in 3 days, not one day as you claim. Instead you should also be doing your own research and find out that Alassane Ouattara and Guillaume Soro last month alone killed more than 900 in one day in the city of Duekoue in the west of Cote d'ivoire and it is reported everywhere. And yes Again Alassane Ouattara and Guillaume Soro killed more than 10.000 people since 2002, try to do your research before posting your usual crap and insults!!!

randyorton:
[size=18pt]sagamumu,all u do on nl is fight other members.are the moderators not seeing all your crap. son of a monkey[/size]

I agree with you 100%

chamber2:
I would rather remain an illiterate than being ''educated'' as you claimed. Someone who cannot even accommodate other people's views, whether sensible or senseless, is claiming to be ''educated.'' Educated my foot.

I agree 100% with you and if you keep receiving insults from Sagamite Please use the “Report to Moderator” feature to report posts. It is a fact that Sagamite cannot even accommodate other people's views

[size=17pt]@op,
So creating thread to insult those who disagrees with you is the latest measure of intellect? Intellect has certainly reached new low![/size]

chamber2:
The poster missed important elements in his analysis. I do not know his intentions but i believe that the his benchmark is not plausible.

I agree 100% with you

Pukkah:
What's the source of this picture?

More explanation here https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-658305.0.html

oyewolejos:
The poster is something else.
So many misleading information in the post and to make matter worst he called people names
Everywhere on this forum he always calls people name.
The Mods should do something

[size=18pt]We should all contact the Moderators because this have been going on for a very long time now!!!.[/size]

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Civilians in Abidjan killed by Alassane Ouattara's rebels­?

Sagamite:
You are a fooool!

How will 2300 people die by a singular UN action, more than is recorded to have died in the entire crisis, and no reputable sight reports it.

Cretin, it is dunces like you dictator can rely on to feed with bias propaganda.

They need fooools to keep them in power.

The dunce went to a site that is completely there to promote Gbagbo's interest and believed anything they claimed without evidence and wonder why I keep on telling him he is a MOOOORON!

Alassane Ouattara and Guillaume Soro killed more than 10.000 people since 2002, try to do your research before posting your usual crap!!!

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Why the west is really in Libya : New cold war vs CHINA

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Osama Assassination Hoax !!