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raumdeuter:
Bayern dominates most teams actually 99% of teams Bayern dominates possesion The 5-0 you are pointing to vs Madrid and Barcelona, Bayern also dominated possesion so what exactly is your adipose laden point

The only game Bayern hasnt dominated possesion in almost 5yrs was against Barcelona and Boateng had a clean sheet in 180

For you to make sense Show us another game in the past 4yrs(Since 2013) Bayern has not dominated possesion I dare you, I would be surprised if you find any

You've just made our point.

The fact is Boateng plays for teams that dominate and his only great point is his ability to stop counterattacks.

Anytime we see him under a bit of pressure his lack of organisation and concentration is exposed like when he gets hammered 5 goals every UCL semifinal.

Put Boateng under pressure and he lacks positional skill and defensive organisation.

raumdeuter:
The first incident you described, Boateng did it in the first half when Schweini didnt track Giacherini and he squared the ball only for Boateng to anticipate and cut off the cross from either Eder or Pelle not sure who

Mikel can do deep lying defence vs Barca and Bayern, David Luiz can but Boateng who is better than every defender in CHelsea combined would not do it

Do you know bad belle can cause cancel and I heard it can even increase your waist line
He conceded 5 goals vs Barca yet too much fat cant make you remember him conceding 0 goals vs Juventus, Barcelona in 2013 on his way to winning the CL

Thats why you cant see him shutting down Argentina in the world cup final

Germany dominated Argentina who only had 36% possession. All you can show us is him stopping counters.

Bayern dominated Juve start to finish.

The only match his team didn't dominate where he kept clean sheet was a rudderless Barca managed by Jourdi Roura who got hammered 7-0 - hardly a test for a defender

Tell us why he conceded 5 goals two years in a row vs Barca and Madrid. Why didn't he bunker?

Zenith apparently interested in Oscar and Chelsea ready to sell.

Please give us some good cash.

timbros:
Conte, if Costa insist he wants to leave, sell him and get Pelle.

I am really impressed with Pelle in this Euros.

We reject it in Jesus name.

raumdeuter:
I guess you must have missed the CL final and the world cup final where he was one of the best players on the field

Boateng is the best defender around. Its easy to be a defender when everyone bunkers and we do collective defending. Thats why useless 2 footed defenders like Terry look good blocking shots and shitt.

with collective defending Mikel looked like the best DM vs Barca and Bayern. When AVB played Terry in a highline we saw how he started doing rankadede for any and every defender

oateng has done more than any one in England in the past 50yrs

Boateng isn't organised enough to bunker. He cannot anticipate or position himself in those situations eg a striker making a quick dart to the near post from a lateral cross or cutback.

That's what Bonucci did dozens of times tonight.

If it is to chase a striker for a 50 yard through ball that he can see from a mile away, then he is good at that one.

Anything involving constant concentration, positioning and organisation, he is below par.

All these matches you mentioned were dominated by Bayern and he had nothing to do besides chasing strikers in a foot race.

That's why you see him conceding 5 goals when Barca put him on backfoot.

Boateng is a good defender but our friends in Bayern hype him up to be the greatest.

We only see Boateng playing for teams that dominate the ball so his best quality (pace) is always on display to stop counterattacks.

Put Boateng under real pressure and you see him collapse like when Madrid and Barca were flogging him 5-0 and 7-0.

Take this game today. If you put Boateng in Bonuccis position in the Italy team, having to defend under pressure for 120 mins, you will see the difference between a born organised defender like Bonucci and a scatter brain like Boateng. Boateng in Italy team today would have conceded goals.

I could see the whole Sports section hoping for Boateng to miss his kick

Raumdeuter see your boy Boateng with arms akimbo like he's pointguarding Steph Curry.

SailorXY:
It's like there are no thoughts towards arial bombardments from the likes of West Ham.

Anyway experience for Conte will be the best teacher.

It would be rare for both to be on the pitch at the same time, even so other positions should have tall players to compensate

Manure shaping up seriously for the new season with Mkhitaryan and Zlatan signings. My money is on them.

Juan Mata on his way to Everton.

The aunties following him from the village sent Jose after him.

bigkesh:
The Sun, Telegraph and Mirror are saying Kante 's preferred club is Chelsea and that we are ready to sign Lass Diarra



When are we selling Oscar abeg?
Schar and Hamsik really did well in the Euros, We should look at them

Funny enough both Kante and Lass Diarra have been on my mind for months.

raumdeuter:
There are two sides playing with mostly EPL players and one with Bale as the main player the other with Hidden Pius Ikedia Hazard.

Belgium only had 5 EPL players.

Wales had 22 English league players plus 1 alumni.

The two winning goals were made in the English Championship.

EPL is your Lord!!!

dopeJemi:
yeah, used to be crazy like that

No let boys grab that photo. Them go use that lip piercing roast you one day o

Griffon:
Ibrahimovic and Aguero on my FPL team for next season already. Let the revolution begin

FPL done start? Make I go defend my title jare.

dopeJemi:
Yeah, why?

WTF is that on your lip? Piercing?

Chestar5:
sorry for asking, is dat really u on ur profile picture

Are you feeling the nigga?

C'mon Portugal. Bring that money home to daddy.

Nihilist:
You may be right or you may be wrong.

I read an interview with Ake discussing his promotion from the u21s to the first team. He said that he was playing and training hard with the first team but could not get a chance. He said that he went up to Mourinho to ask why he wasn't getting a chance in the first team, but Jose said he had to wait for his chance....shortly after, he was sent on loan.

This story does not match up with the narrative of the 'stewpid TD' failing to recommend the talent at the club to the manager. He was clearly revommend to Jose.

Eddie Howe's interview today was quite interesting. He explains that Bournemouth signed Ake due to his versatility. He highlights the fact that Ake played 28 games at LB for Watford, but points out that Ake's best position is in central midfield.

This could suggest that the boy has been sent out to develop further as a midfielder. Considering that we are definitely in the market for midfielders, it's very possible th Conte has already evaluated him and found him wanting - Afterall, why would Conte be chasing the likes of Naingollan if he hadn't already evaluated the quality of midfielders already on ground?

Anyway, let's leave it here abeg. I have no appetite for another long debate tonight.

You may very well be right sef, so....

No wahala. Bear in mind when Ake went to JM, he was 18. He has since had successful loans at Reading and Watford and proved himself better than our current options.

If you ask me, the TD is playing his usual politics. Having gone out on a limb to sign Baba Rahman for stewpid money, the boards eyes are on him if Rahman fails and loses value. So he clears space in the squad for Rahman to at least have a chance of being 2nd choice.

It is a tactic I know him well for ie clearing space for certain players, from Mikel to Torres.

Even if the club are signing 2 midfielders and a left back, like I said only a foolish TD will leave likes of Mikel and Rahman to back them up instead of Ake.

Nihilist:
They could have made an enquiry to CFC, details of which were forwarded on to Conte alongside scouts notes and clips in action. Conte could have looked at the info he had, and decided that maybe the boy would benefit from 1 extra year...and then sent him out.

That is what you wished happened, but that is not what happened.

You mean Conte would leave Euro work and scouting of Spain and Germany, to study game tapes of Ake? Where they do that at?

As you can see, Italy is very well drilled to the minute detail in this tournament - that's not because Conte is spending his time studying Chelsea youth players!!!


Tell me how long it takes to study 2 hour tapes of 50 players on loan. You must be joking if you think Conte is studying and making judgements on the first team squad and development squad whilst juggling managing Italy.

This is the kind of situation where the TD makes recommendation to the first team coach.

Weren't you the one who showed us Emenalos job profile showing us he is in charge of development squad? Is Conte's job title not "first team coach": - actually, the first time a Chelsea manager has had his job role reduced to "First team coach" only.

So we should go looking for "First team coach" who hasn't started work yet to blame him for a wrong decision on a "development" player?

Nihilist:
Conte could have looked at the info he had, and decided that maybe the boy would benefit from 1 extra year

Emenalo decided to send the boy on one extra year. No ifs, and, or but. Conte may know about it BUT IS IN NO POSITION to know the worth of the player having just walked in the door. Emenalo knows the player, Conte does not.

This is where we know we have a stewpid TD because Rahman is the one who needs extra year decades. What are you sending a nigga on loan for when he is better than all your current options?

Infact Chelsea quoted Watford £10m to sell the boy outright.

Michy is better than Lacazette for a lone striker role.

Michy holds the ball up well, dribble in tight spaces and good with his back to goal.

Lacazette doesn't have that

lalaboi:
I be scout?

You miss the point. .

Add Seven more million and you will get you a proven scorer. who wants to spend 33 on an average joe on the back of one good season?

Higuan,
Aubumenyang. [if gundogan can move for under 30 and Henrikh Mkhitaryan is being estimated to worth about 34, its feasible, only stumbling block is the fact the there is no champions league for Chelsea)

The more feasible proven ones
Icardi
Heck if we want something from the French league so bad, Lacazette has done in consistently for 2 seasons posting 20goals +

If only they had put a buy back clause as at Lukaku's sale, what is a Bashuayi compared to lukaku? hes even benching him at country level.

I feel Michy go surprise you.

He looks like my kind of striker.

Nihilist, its like this.

No manager walks into a squad and can change 23 players.

At least 7-10 players are put there/kept there by the TD.

Guardiola cannot walk into City today and say he wants replacements for Delph, Fernando, Mangala, Kolarov, Clichy, Otamendi, Navas, Bony etc.

He can know he doesn't want those players but he can't replace all of them.

If his TD has academy youngster or a cheap player better than those guys, he is doing the manager a favour by finding decent replacements to help the manager, as the manager is only focused on 3 or 4 key positions that he can request signings.

The 3rd/4th midfielder, 4th centreback, substitute fullbacks, wingers and strikers are all controlled by the TD.

I am under no illusions about the role of a TD, and his influence. 30-40% of a squad is crafted by him.

Guardiola may sign Alonso and Tiago but he is not responsible for Kimmich or Rode. The Rumenniges help him fill those positions.

Emenalo has just helped Conte fill those positions with the Mikels, Michael Hectors and Rahmans while chasing away the Christensens and Akes.

I don't know what other way to define incompetence.

Nihilist:
But....you said and I quote:

"It is too early for Emenalo to start playing his usual politics. For now Conte has the balance of power because he was chosen by Roman while Emenalo recommended Pellegrini."

Do you not think that these two posts are inconsistent?

No. The development squad is strictly the remit of the TD in any club in the world.

Some of us were hoping that the likes of Ake and MVG stick around long enough for preseason so Conte can see them, assess them and make a decision on them. The decision has been taken out of his hands.

Conte is sitting in his hotel room somewhere prepping for Germany match, and all he would know about this is that Chelsea has one small boy on loan at Watford last season and now he has been loaned to Bournemouth.

Do you think Conte can assess or know the 50+ players we have out on loan? This is where the likes of Rumennige and co show the difference between a good TD and Aba made TD. They can recognise quality in likes of Alaba, Lahm, Kroos etc from Bayern academy to let a manager know he has strong options, meanwhile Chelsea managers are working blindly with a TD who doesn't know his right from left.

If Sam Allardyce walks into Lazio today, he cannot tell you jack about one Florenzi that Lazio will have out on loan to Genoa.

Those who are with the club are guardians of the club and (should) know the players values better than anyone walking in.

The TD has essentially told us he considers Rahman to be a better player than Ake whereas some of us believe that Ake is a better player than Rahman, Mikel and can even fill a gap at LCB if Conte wants to go with a back three.

You can bet that Conte considers left-back and midfield a problem position at Chelsea, yet never once has Emenalo thought to put the clubs internal LB and CM options up as at least a squad filler consideration. Instead he is thinking how to loan them out. Obviously in his questionable judgement, he considers Rahman and Mikel better options.

Look Chelsea are not going to sign 11 new players for Conte this summer, we will only get 4 or 5. Which means the Baba Rahmans stick around in the squad when the likes of Ake could have done so.

This is shocking stewardship by Emenalo.

Chelsea fans dey vex seriously on all media platforms over this Ake issue

When you have a useless TD like Emenalo, these are the kind of decisions that you see.

These fools have loaned Nathan Ake to Bournemouth.

For me, of our current set, Nathan Ake takes first team shirt in central midfield and at left-back.

Some eediots don't know football when they see it.

raumdeuter:
Maybe some people here can help us. Uncle Ibime is this an Emenalo signing or a Conte signing?

It is too early for Emenalo to start playing his usual politics. For now Conte has the balance of power because he was chosen by Roman while Emenalo recommended Pellegrini.

If Emenalo had the balance of power now you would be hearing of links with 10 wingers this summer, but what we are hearing is Kante and Naingollan

I hope Costa is on his way out with the Michy signing.

I done tire to dey watch WWE everytime I tune in to Chelsea game.

raumdeuter:
Iceland as in Iceland sent England home. Do you even need a coach to beat Iceland

Austria should answer that, with all their Bundesliga stars.

Griffon:
Meanwhile, the dumbest chick I've ever dated/bedded has got more class in her repertoire than the current Miss Nairaland.

This thing don lose standard mehn.

No let Jigsawkillah hear this one o. Na him babe be that.

raumdeuter:
All the epl fans don run away.

How a team of EPL 11 would lose to a country of 320,000 people

According to CIA over 35% of the population are under 14yrs or over 55yrs

Remaining 200,000

of the 200k between 14 and 55, Female are 85,000 so we are left with men of 115,000

115,000 men between 14 and 55

Lets now find out the total number of men between the ages of 19 and 40yrs that would be eligible to play football

Actually there are only 46000 men in Iceland between the ages of 20 and 40.

1 in every 2000 men of football age are in the Euros squad.

England are losing this game.

No method to their attack.

No 2nd man showing for the ball after Wilshere/Dier pick it from the back four.

Rooney an absolute waste in that midfield, losing ball every minute. Roy brought him to France to learn midfield work.

Alli making stewpid runs when he is needed to show for the ball to create a triangle.

Mscheeeeeeeeeew!