₦airaland Forum

Debroslink:
So u don't know Madjer played in LA liga? Guy, I'm done with you.
Rabah Madjer played for Valencia in 1987/88 season and won the UCL top scorer award with 5 other players.

Mumu, I will ask you again, which club did Rabah Madjer topscore with in European Cup in 1987/88?

Valencia were not even in European Cup in 1987/1988.

Doofus.

coogar:
moyes clocked 9-1 aggregate against leverkusen last season & they were second on the table. every manager has said the premier league is the toughest league in the world - the money across the board ensures the strength is fairly distributed.

QED.

barcanista:
1. Buhari/APC To Pay 25m Unemployed N5000 Per Month
Cost Implication:
The implication here is that the sum of N125billion (ie 25million * N5000) will be spent to service this policy every month, and an estimated N1.5 trillion (ie N125bn * 12 months) will be spent on this policy alone every year.

2. Buhari/APC To Provide Daily Meal for Primary School pupils.
First, the FG has no business with the running of Primary schools. This is the responsibility of States and Local Government. However, Buhari's administration pledged to provide at least one meal per day for Primary school Children, we shall hold him accountable.
Cost Implication:
Osun State reportedly spent N3.2billion in 2014 for the feeding of 300,000 primary 1 to 4 pupils in the state. The Osun state program exclude pupils in Primary 5 and 6. If we are to break it per pupil, we will have N10,667 per pupil(ie 3.2b/300k). Considering that over 35million children are estimated to be enrolled in Primary school across the country, at least the sum of THREE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY THREEE BILLION (N373b) is estimated to be spent on the program annually(ie 35m * 10,667).

Gross Annual Estimated Cost For Both Programs
N1.5trn + N373b = N1.873trn

That means Buhari is to increase our Recurrent Expenditure by N1.83trn.

How Feasible Are These Programs?
Let us take a look at the key component of the 2015 Budget(as adjusted by the Senate).
Total Budget Stand at N4.3trn.
Recurrent Expenditure: N2.58 trillion
Capital Expenditure: N700 billion

From where will Buhari See N1.8trn To Service His Social Programs?
- Remove Subsidy? If he's thinking of scrapping fuel subsidy, the adjusted allocation for petrol subsidy in 2015 budget is N100billion. The adjusted allocation for SURE-P is N21b, while the subsidy for kerosene for 2015 was adjusted to N45.5b. This gives a total of N166.5b.
Even if he should scrap SURE-P and remove the petrol and kerosene subsidy, he still won't be able to get 1% of the N1.8trn.

- Spend All Capital Expenditure + Subsidy? Even if Buhari is to spend all our N700b Capital Expenditure on his Social program in addition to the N166.5billion subsidy funds, it still won't be enough as it will fall short of One Trillion Naira.
N700b + N166.5b= N866 billion

- Money Appropriated To NASS? The total budget for the National Assembly for 2015 is N115b. Even if Buhari is to spend this money + subsidy allocation + Capital Expenditure to fund his program, he won't be able to raise the required fund. As all appropriation combined stand at N981billion(ie N700b + N115b + N166b)

So How Does Buhari intend to raise N1.873trillion to fulfil this social welfare pledge? Does this mean the administration has failed even before starting? Dead on arrival?

No reasonable person expected APC to keep these election "promises" just like no reasonable person expected GEJ to keep his. Both PDP and APCs manifestos were uncosted and designed to win the popular vote. . . . these are soundbites for the millions of illiterates, semi-illiterates and uninformed Nigerians.

No need digging into the figures. All we know is that we have a more serious Government in charge. Like it or lump it.

Debroslink:
U talk about Messi and Ronaldo of 7 years, and I'm talking about EPL players in UCL of the past 30 years.

Aside Messi and CR7, we've had
Rivaldo
Ronald Koeman
Raul
Milinko Pantic
Rabah Madjer
Michel

Some of the players listed above NEVER played for Madrid or Barca when they won top scorer award in UCL.

All the players you mentioned here are Madrid or Barca players except Pantic who only scored 5 goals.

It's obvious you were either born yesterday or are oblivious to facts. Which Spanish team did Rabah Madjer win top scorer with?

Google analyst!

Please name me the players who never played for Barca or Madrid except Pantic with his 5 goals?

Debroslink:
Aside Messi and CR7, we've had
Rivaldo
Ronald Koeman
Raul
Milinko Pantic
Rabah Madjer
Michel

List your own players from EPL that achieved this feat in the last 30 years

Michel only scored 4 goals and tied with 5 other players including Ally McCoist of Rangers and Rabah Madjer of PORTO. Bravo! Another dubious use of stats.

And how does this prove that Levante, Cordoba and co are better than Villa and Hull City?

If you knew football you would know that no need going back 30 years to compare top scorers in UCL in a time when All English clubs were banned from Europe for 5 years after the Heysel disaster. . . . then spent another 5 years catching up to the rest of Europe. But then you are a google analyst, so I don't expect you to make intelligent comparisons.

These guys make noise about stats in Scottish league and want to use those stats to prove a player in those leagues are better.

These leagues only have 5 or 6 good teams, the rest are trash. . . . and that's because they do not divide the TV money evenly like the Premier League. Paderborns budget for the year is £9m. Last season, the lowest paid team in EPL (Norwich) earned £34m from TV rights alone, talkless of stadium tickets, merchandising etc.

Take the 2nd best team in Bundesliga (Wolfsburg). I dash them Everton who are mid-table in EPL. Everton will go away and flog them 2-0 in their home stadium, then trash them 4-1 at home, and they want us to believe their stats mean anything.

Wetin concern us with stats padded by Paderborn, Eibar, Elche and Cordoba?

Chelsea went away to Schalke and flogged them 5-0 in their home stadium, yet Schalke are 5th on the log. Can Chelsea beat any EPL team in the top-10 by 3 goals even? Even at home, we could not beat any EPL team by more than four goals, talkless of 5-0 away from Home.

Bunch of Scottish leagues.

Debroslink:
Top scorers in UCL? For the past 30 years 1985-2015, only Nistelrooy and CR7 were top scorers in UCL coming from England.
LA liga players were well represented during this period.

EPL is overrated.

If you had any cognitive reasoning you would know that the strength of Real Madrid and Barca (Lionel Messi and Ronaldo) is not in question here. So telling me that Barca and Madrid players won top scorer in UCL means nothing. On top of that, Messi and Ronaldo have padded laligas stats in the last 7 years, prior to that the record is not impressive.


What is in question is the ease with which Griezmann can score goals against the Granadas, Levantes and Eibars of this world who survive on a budget of £7m a year and naturally cannot afford to provide good competition.


I asked you a simple question which you have been ducking.


The strikers below were COMPLETE FLOPS in England ie they cannot even score 5 goals in EPL. In Spain, they each scored hatfuls. Which STRIKER TOTALLY FLOPPED in Spain and succeeded in England?


Florent Sinama-Pongolle
Carlos Vela
Nikola Zigic
Roberto Soldado
Giuseppe Rossi
Albert Luque
Julio Baptista
Diego Forlan
Iago Aspas


I've been waiting over 24 hrs now.

So Flavour dey bleach?

coogar:
you are a pathological liar....
sanchez scored 12 league goals in 1694 mins in his debut season in la liga. he has scored 14 league goals in 2413 mins in arsenal. he has found it more difficult to score in england than in spain despite the fact he's become a better player in england.

Don't mind that fool. Sanchez scored 19 league goals in laliga last season despite starting many games on the bench. Thís season he's scored 14 playing every minute week in, week out.

homesteady:
I guess all Champions League defenders are also not paid for months, because it is still la liga players that end up as the top goal scorers!
Maybe Arsenal defenders were not paid for like a year for them to allow one player score 4 goals against them!

You're only talking of Messi and Ronaldo.

Which other laliga striker top scores in the UCL?

If you don't know what we're talking about here, kindly get lost.

Nuvally:
Dbanj tha Pace-setter. Very ambitious. DonJazzy is great, but Dbanj's dream is way bigger. Don jazzy wants to remain Relevant in Nigeria. Dbanj is gunning for the Universe. Broke got to have another meaning!

Don't let pictures fool you. All thís na free show for charity and the UN.

Dbanj cannot sell 3000 tickets for a show in the West.

Don Jazzy knows his market, he focussed on it and is making from it. Dbanj lost his home market while chasing photo opportunities with Western celebrities that don't pay him.

AirborneLacer:
Which woulda left us a tad vulnerable at the left if Luis had started.

Who does Luis have to fear on the other side? Mata who is not a genuine winger?

AirborneLacer:
Ibime what says you about Ivanovic's performance yesterday?

Prior to the game, I asserted that if the Serbian was to stay defensive i.e sticking to his own half for the most period of the game, there's no way he wouldn't pocket whoever he was up against.

The sonning started with Young and ended with Di Maria

Nothing Azpi wouldn't do either.

Tval:
How did he become a better goal scorer than rooney? He spent two seasons in the epl and had 20 goals.

Leave that clown, Michu scored 15 goals from midfield in the league alone for Vallecano, a relegation candidate.

Debroslink:
Bar Forlan and Soldado, none of the names you mentioned above hit 20 league goals in Spain. They were all average players in Spain

However, even Forlan that later got his mojo in Spain came back to England to rape the best teams England had to offer. Eg Liverpool @ the peak of power during Benitez's reign.

You ask if flops in Spain succeeded in England, I have them in plenty.

1. Yaya You're went from being benched by Busquets to scoring 20 league goals from midfield a season in that overrated EPL. Yet they said EPL is hard to score. I laugh in Zulu.

2. Negredo scored 26 goals in his first season in England

3. Torres, who couldn't score 20 goals in 8 years in Spain scored 36 goals in 1 season in EPL.

4. Michu who is a nobody in Spain became a better scorer than Rooney in the EPL.

5. Aguero barely managed 10 goals/season in Spain scored 23 goals in his 1st season in EPL

6. Sanchez, who was struggling for 1st team shirt with Pedro is now a lord @ Arsenal, and has scored 20 goals in his 1st season in d overrated EPL

Lemme stop here.

Thís is why you fail exam with şuch reasoning skills.

I asked you "Which STRIKER TOTALLY FLOPPED in Spain and succeeded in England". Pay attention to the keywords and stop telling me büllshit about Yaya Toure, midfielders and wingers.

The strikers below were COMPLETE FLOPS in England ie they cannot even score 5 goals in EPL. In Spain, they each scored hatfuls.


Florent Sinama-Pongolle
Carlos Vela
Nicola Zigic
Roberto Soldado
Giuseppe Rossi
Albert Luque
Julio Baptista
Diego Forlan
Iago Aspas


I am happy to wait while you rack your brain.

Debroslink:
Owen went from 23 goals in England to 7 in Spain
Van Nistelrooy went from 44 goals in England to 25 in Spain
Henry went from 42 goals in England to 9 in his final season in Spain
Torres went from 15 goals in Spain to 36 in England before Chelsea ruined him

Is it not a shame that Diego Costa went from scoring freely in UCL to scoring ZERO goals for Chelsea in UCL this season. Is this not how Chelsea have ruined the careers of good strikers?


Bring Real Madrid team to EPL and see how Ronaldo will break Messi's 91 goals record

Griezman is better than Hazard. He's playing and scoring for fun in the league and the UCL. What has Hazard done in UCL this season? Deal with it.

Please, Owen scored 16 goals in Spain, all from the bench.
Henry played left wing and had been having injury problems right from his final season at Arsenal
Suarez started the season on the wing, he's now popping for fun.


The following strikers could not score a goal in England yet were Kings in Spain

Florent Sinama-Pongolle
Carlos Vela
Nicola Zigic
Roberto Soldado
Giuseppe Rossi
Albert Luque
Julio Baptista
Diego Forlan
Iago Aspas

Even fücking Manucho from Angola managed a respectable career in Spain.

Name me one striker who scored goals in England but completely flopped in Spain like the names above?

Why wouldn't you score goals in Spain when you are playing against defenders that haven't been paid for 3 months?

nortcentrallord:
Have you ever giving bribe for anything @ all?
Have you ever demanded for bribe?
Ever driven on the wrong lane or without a license?
Ever cheated in an examination?
Ever stole funds entrusted in your care?
An average Nigerian is corrupt. It starts from us and ends with us. If you can't be trusted with little things, then you can't be trusted with bigger things.

More reason you need Buhari. Was War Against Indisciplined not implemented to teach you unruly citizens how to behave? Sometimes when a goat is stubborn, you have to flog him . . . which is exactly what Buharis soldiers did. . . flog the goats amongst us till they learn how to behave like civilised people.

riversupdate:
Rivers State Governor Elect, has today released his election Manifesto once again to the world, and has promised to achieve every one of them. He promised 100% efficiency and to hit the ground running once he is sworn in.
Below is the manifesto listed in well documented pictures and by sectors he promises to revitalize

More of the campaign promises from
twitter.com/anewrivers

Thís is not a manifesto, it is an advert. A pamphlet for the gullible.

A manifesto is a costed working document, not a collection of soundbites.

We dont expect any good fruit from a bad tree. The uncultured murderous tout will make a mockery of Rivers people over the next 4 years.

Flets:
Sometimes I ask what Buhari intends to do differently.

Even in the proposed fight against corruption, all we hear are jails, prosecution and punitive measures which cannot eliminate corruption in itself. So much noise, hype and propaganda. Without strengthening our institutions and putting in systems to check sharp practices like GEJ was doing ..... corruption will continue unabated across board

It might take some time for the average Nigerian to discern but very sensible minds understand already that we lost GEJ ....... he didn't lose.

Shut your dirty mouth.

The reason why corruption cannot be eradicated from Nigeria is because of citizens like you who are corrupt in mind and nature.

You champion the corrupt, then give us all sorts of reasons why corruption cannot be eradicated, because you love corruption.

Show me a man who was Petroleum Minister and President and does not own a single oil block and I will support him because I am a responsible citizen, while you champion the biggest thief Nigeria has ever seen in Aso rock.

raumdeuter:
In output hazard still fails when compared to Ribery

Ribery 23 games 9 goals 10 assists. no penalties
Hazard 40 games 15 goals(30% penalties ) 12 assists

This is despite Ribery having one of his worst injury ridden seasons

Ribery plays for the best team in the world, an attacking team who don't require him to defend. . . plus he's in a Scottish-type league where one big team hammer others 4-0 every game.

Same with Griezmann, why won't he score against Eibar, Almeria and co who can lose 7-0 in the league?

Ronaldo went from 42 goals a season in England to 60 in Spain
Diego Costa went from 36 goals in Spain to 20 in England.

For every goal in England, multiply by 1.5 in Spain. Thís is what happens when there is inequitable distribution of TV money, you get broke teams like Levante whose whole season budget (transfer + wages) is £7m, something Leicester can blow on one players transfer fee alone. Why won't Griezmann score against hungry men who haven't eaten?

raumdeuter:
So what do we compare on? dribbles or what?

Compare assists, chances created, key passes etc.

When your dribbling takes pressure off your team and helps the team tactically to keep the ball, count that as well.

Hazard is exactly the Ribery of his team. I would compare his style of play to no other player.

When will thís charlatan shut up?

jamillion:
I dnt know y my spirit didn't like this man

Because he is a billionaire who has worked in civil service his whole life. He stole his way all the way from Customs Officer to Vice President. He serves no purpose except living parasitically off the public purse.

wow, thís thread used to have the most traffic in thís section.

See wetin years and years of trophylessness dey cause.

raumdeuter:
Griezmann is not the focal point for goals either in his team.

Which other competition should we count for Hazard? CL where he scored 2 penalties or FA cup where he didnt score a single goal

Hazard League 13, FA cup 0, CL 3 goals

Griezmann League 20, CL 2, Copa 1

Griezmann is the focal point from what I've seen in UCL. He is often further than Mandzukic.

Besides no one is comparing on goals alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgpQNENsmo4

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nateevs:
My boy Hazard. . . Again!

Good to see you bros

Hazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrddd!!!

Good pass by Oscar!

Zouma is not a midfielder by any stretch

The running of a midfielder and a centre back no be the same.

Shakara go soon end

Lushcream:
I'm a Yoruba boy and I think people whose mentality are in your direction are quite myopic. This is a democracy, Yoruba has always voted for opposition since return to democracy in 1999 ... We had AD which later broke into AC then ACN and now APC while the rest of the country go for PDP except few northern states with ANPP. The Igbo's believe in Jonathan/PDP and voted for PDP......

Being in the position of authority doesn't guarantee development, The Northern Nigeria occupy more than 50% of the positions in Nigeria, ruled more than 50% of Nigerian political years , have richer individuals than southerners thus record highest level of poverty index and underdevelopment in Nigeria.

let SE/SS also be in opposition and see how it feels, it is unhealthy for a whole nation to navigate one direction....

This is one of the dumbest comments I've ever read, made worse by the fact many agree with it.

Any nation where political opposition is not based on ideology but on tribe (like you are advocating) is a doomed nation.