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For the third year in a row, Oscar fails to be nominated for PFA Young Player of the Year, yet some ninjas told us he was top-3 or top-5 young player in the world.

In other news, Raheem Sterling gets his second nomination in a row. . . .

Raiders:
Ochendo!!!! The maradona of Abia state politics . I love this man for his political wit.

You are an eediot. May you die in poverty since you love those who oppress and steal from you.

3 odd numbers can never add up to an even number so why try?

TheGoodJoe:
That is why I said he is the most underrated player. He has immense qualities but many overlook him, including his coaches.

Watch his performance against Chelsea in the second leg of the Champions league, he dominated the midfield with ease. He deserves more credit.

If anything he was overrated hence the reason someone thought he was worth £35m when he was clearly not, and paid him an extortionate salary to boot.

He was simply brought down to his real level by the coaches who benched him.

Cantona must be smoking crack to claim he is the best player in the world. Just yesterday, Messi, Neymar, Suarez and Busquets proved that Cantona needs to go for check-up.

Story for the Gods. Someone who couldn't make PSG or Argentina team until this season. He's improved in the last 6 months is all I can say.

Shakara go soon end

raumdeuter:
WHo was Brown more important in that United Lineup run in to the final. I believe thats a simple question. Was he more important than any of those first teamplayers?

You are talking of names, we are talking of matches. 07/08 was Browns finest season in his rightful position (RB). He was not a passenger. He was one of the best players in the final, and borne out by his superb assist. Nobody carried him, he carried himself. QED.

raumdeuter:
Because I intentionally overlooked this goof.
How was a Hazard who was absent an inbetween in the final?

Footballers are memorable for playing well or playing rubbish. Hazard is unmemorable so I assumed he had an average game.

What was memorable though is who played well: Ivanovic, Lampard, Cech, Torres - all newspapers scored them 7 or 8.

And what was also memorable is who stank out the match: Mata and Ramires. 90% of newspapers scored them 5 or 6.


Believe you me, if we lost that match, Mata would be the NO 1 reason for losing that match due to the tactical instability he brought to the team because of the unbearable pressure on our midfield and defence caused by Mata being swatted aside like a paperweight everytime. He was nonexistent in the midfield, a 12 year old boy playing with men, the DEFINITION of PASSENGER. Cech and wayward Benfica finishing saved us from the tactical imbalance caused by carrying that passenger in midfield. It is the same story with Mata everywhere he goes, so I'm not making things up. The Europa final was one of those games he causes WAY more harm than good to the team.


Pulling numbers telling me he had two assists means nothing. Yet he scored 5 and 6 in most Player ratings? He would have scored 4/10 if not for those lucky statistics on his side.


Here is the first of Matas "assists". The second was a corner. Apart from that, we were playing with 10 men.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTzOlnKj0A

raumdeuter:
Van de Saar, Brown, Vidic, Rio, Evra, Carrick, Hargreaves, Scholes, Ronaldo, Rooney Tevez. I would say Brown had the least contribution to the CL win

Calling players names will not justify the passenger status you gave him. Wes Brown was superb that season and was no passenger. He assisted Utds goal in the final by dribbling his man and floating a left-foot cross onto Ronaldos head . . . . and was solid in shutting out Barcelona in the semis. He was a solid right-back that season. Malouda was the worst player on the pitch in the final. . . . so Brown musta been doing his job right.

raumdeuter:
No let this your Mata hate turn to something else

Hazard In Europa 1 goal 2 assists. None in q-finals, none in semi finals and he missed the finals

Mata 1 goal 5 assists . 2 assists in the Europa final

Which one of these two qualifies as a passenger?

Ninjas on this thread have told you to stop quoting numbers every second. Mata was a complete liability in the final. An indirect contribution for Torres' goal does not change that, nor does a corner kick for Ivas goal. He was the BIGGEST PASSENGER on the pitch just like in UCL final in Munich (even though you might tell me he floated the corner for DDs goal)

Despite his "two assists", why did he score the lowest out of all offensive players in the ratings below? He must have really sucked @zz.


Juan Mata: Superb long ball to Oscar nearly caught Benfica out early but after that pretty much disappeared as a creative force for Chelsea - 5/10



http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/400016/Chelsea-and-Benfica-Europa-League-Final-player-analysis

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/europa-league/10060397/Europa-League-final-how-the-Chelsea-and-Benfica-players-rated-in-Amsterdam.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/chelsea-2-1-benfica-match-report-1891734



I dare you find me one player rating on the whole internet that gave him above 6/10. He was the definition of passenger in that final.

raumdeuter:
What was Hazards contribution to the Europa cup win. He was just a passenger like Wes brown was to Man Utd when they won the Champions League

Wes Brown was not a passenger in Manures UCL win abeg. He played well that season and all through that tournament.

Mata and Ramires were the biggest passengers in Europa League final. Hazard was inbetween.

The only ninjas who could hold their head high that day were the back four, especially Ivanovic, Cech, Lampard and Torres.

Keky:
If you want to know how to stop Fellaini watch the FA cup quarter final and watch Francis Coquelin annihilate him for 90mims.

In the air, I'm sure that job would be left to Mertesacker.

Bertrand Traore is a simply amazing player.

He first came to my attention in the U-17 World Cup about 5 years ago where he was one of the best players in the tournament. Then he was 14 years old (and he truly looked 14, not African age.)

He used to play left-back then.

Then I started hearing rumours that he is shining as a winger now, I saw some Chelsea friendlies and Burkinabe games and alas he had transformed into a skillful winger.

Now, the last 13 games, he's been playing as a central striker for Vitesse and has 10 goals and 3 assists.


If Middlesbrough come up, I'd say let Bamford get some good minutes on loan and keep Bertrand as 3rd striker/ substitute winger.

AirborneLacer:
Good logical angle, but I have a different view.

Remy would be fit by weekend, so that discards the idea of using Oscar upfront.

Courtois' heroics outweighs his gaffes, so he gets my nod.

Ivanovic can't be left out in a fixture of this kind. His experience and the aerial threats he poses would come in handy.

He's not our weakest link at the back. If Jose's instruction is that he sits back and carry out his primary role which is to defend, then trust Bran to do a decent job.

Ivanovic is only caught off guard 'cause as an attacking full-back he would need time to make a positional transition from attack to defence.

Hardly you find full-backs who spends a large chunk of their time on their opposition's half and are still defensively astute.

If we're looking to play to reject space, then a pivot of Zouma and Matic is just what we need.

Loftus-Cheek is a stranger to this kind of fixture and may be overwhelmed hence starting Zouma in midfield makes sense.

That said, here's what my eleven would look like:

Courtois

Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpilicueta

Zouma Matic

Willian Fabregas Hazard

Remy.

Its either or on all positions except left-back and DM.

If we say RLC is too inexperienced for this fixture, what makes Zouma more experienced? RLC has a lifetime of experience in central midfield, while Zouma is still as much a rookie to the position. Now is a good time as any to give the kid a chance as we have credit in the bank.

Also, I'm convinced Mata is a weak link and can be exploited by Felipe Luis. Mata could not live with him. Felipe and Hazard on that left wing should completely pin back Valencia, and if Mata refuses to track back with Luis, we can make great gains on that side. Playing Azpi on that side puts us on the back foot, allowing Mata to stay on the front foot. Put Mata on the back foot and his whole wing will collapse.

Pundits are speculating that Zouma will be used in midfield against Manure to curtail Fellainis height.


I say use Ruben Loftus Cheek there. He'll curtail height and play his midfield game.


My team to face United:


. . . . . . . . Cech

Azpi. . . Zouma. . . .Terry. . . . Luis

. . . . RLC. . . . . . Matic

Willian.......Fab4..........Hazard

. . . . .. . .Oscar


They wont see space to breathe in midfield. Mata wont be able to track Felipe Luis. And Oscar over DD upfront cos well, he's 37.

They won't know what hit them in midfield. Even Oscar will be joining the midfield to overrun them

Keky:
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I see no big ears in Arsenals collection, not even Europa league. Clown!

Keky:
Still Funny

Not as funny as living life as an Arsenal fan. Even A-40 had to flee from such destiny.

Tval:
This Solanke will make a great striker.

No be your friend?

Great achievement. Make I go climb everest put my name in the history books join.

coogar:
so let's say you create the first 8 bars from your head, spewed it in a booth while it's been recorded.....you took a break, you create another 12 bars. another break & another 16 bars. all recorded. an engineer loops it together and makes a track......

is that pre-written?

Of course it's pre-written. The difference between Em and us is that he can afford to sit in the studio all day and do that. We need to go in with our material ready.

AirborneLacer:
Mehn! Drogba was absolutely panned on twitter during and after the game.

One fella even had the chutzpah to say ''I can't say Drogba has been useless cause I've seen worse"

IMO DD doesn't deserve to be slagged off, what would you be expecting from an African man whose football's age is 37? Hattricks?

Drogbas real age is 37. That's what yo expect from any striker aged 37, whether African, European or Australasian.

coogar:
you are a big olodo.
eminem freestyled rap god doesn't mean he went into a booth & had the whole verses spewed out in one take. it could be in blocks - it coulda taken 3 days but the fact is - he never wrote any of the lyrics down somewhere before spewing it out.

biggie spewed out the entire verses on juicy track in one take. he smoked a blunt, had 2 women sück his cöck, drank pepsi & KFC chicken. he dragged himself to the booth & started rapping. his engineer was like WTF? is anyone writing this shyte down? he had the 3 verses out straight out from his head, no pen!

There's a big difference between freestyling and memorising the lyrics you are going to spit.

When the flow is complicated, it is sometimes better to memorise as you go along making the rap, because of the nuances in the flow you want to project or the tongue twisting you might want to apply does not allow you to pause to start writing things down.

I have done this with many tracks, difference is I create the first 8 bars or so in my head while the beat is playing, then I write them down so not to forget.

This is essentially the same as writing, but without a pen.

All Jay-Z and Biggie albums were recorded this way as is all of RZAs albums.

I totally believe you if you say Eminem recorded Rap God this way because the flow is complicated, you don't have time to start writing things down otherwise you might forget how you tongue twisted a certain sequence.

When Matic was "short". . . . he was under 6ft and played as a playmaker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mpyj7R8u9QU

raumdeuter:
You lost to a deleted team.

Well next week I have been given the honours to do your cremation.

Cremate wetin?

Una get luck say FPL do me ojoro last week if not I woulda sneaked the last playoff position and took the cup home.

GIYAZZ:
DAMN!! Izzy has got that Jay Z flow!!!

D0pe brother you've got mehn!

This got me thinking. . . What ever happened to you guys? Why did you stop making music?? And how did it happen??

School, work, responsibilities, life. Mind I was 16-21 when I was active then, but had to chill from 2nd year of Uni. I didn't really write from 2004-2007, until I stumbled across AHH.com, then from there to Nairaland.

Nihilist:
Notice I was referring to GOALS in my response to you, but fair dos to you anyway.

You win this one.

No p bro, I wasn't being vindictive, just celebrating my nigga Fabregas.

Nihilist:
Quote such a statement or go and buy eye drop for your Apollo sharp sharp

I ain't fighting you ninja, just celebrating our victory!!!

Nihilist:
I don ever doubt Fab before?

Shey you laugh when I said he would easily make 30 + in the AM position. He's done it from the pivot sef.

Another one down, 4 more wins to go. Blue is the colour!

Fabregaaaaaaaaaaaaassss!!!!

That's 31 goals + assists thís season.

cc Nihilist, he done cross 30 oh!

Drogba is so off colour. We're attacking with a blunt arrowhead.

I don't know why JM is trying to turn this match into a game of attrition.

DD and Ramires starting is the wrong call, he should have gone with Remy and Oscar instead.

Darkrebel666:
@bold
.exactly... Kid Cudi is tight but IMO i think Jin in his prime freestyles better off the top . Its harder to think of disses on the fly than just randomly freestyling on any topic, so I'd have to give Jin.

Do you have audios or videos to your battles like to that one you did on Don't flop?

Don't Flop wasn't in existence then. In my time we used to battle in Subterranea in Shepherds Bush. The current Don't Flop champion Tony D (then called T Dangerous) used to battle since then. Back then Reveal was the Champion, he beat Tony D in the final of Battle Scars 2002, then you had guys like Grimlock who was fire with the punchlines. He trounced me badly once.

From 2001, the main tournament was Battle Scars, from Battle Scars to Jump-Off around 2004, which is when I left the scene. The current Don't Flop crowd all grew out of the Jump Off crowd from 2004-2008 era who used to battle at Scala in King's Cross.

Those days we didn't have camera phones so I've got no videos. My junior bro Izzy followed in my footsteps, at least we managed to record this video of him back in 2006, not a battle though just a show.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrZZdjyoTeQ

Una still dey argue this one? Only someone who doesn't know how to freestyle go argue. I have battled on UK formats preceding Jump-Off and Don't Flop, reaching a final of Subterranea 2000 hosted by Canibus and DJ279, and reaching quarter-final of Battle scars 2002 which was the premier UK battle competition then. Miss me with that bullshyt. The nigga who thinks RapGod was freestyled is a nigga who ain't quick with words and thinks freestylers are magicians.

The best freestyler of Eminem era was Supernatural, followed by Juice, followed by Em. Em is like every other battler, he turns up to battle with prewrittens, and then he might include a few freestyles depending on how the opponent looks, dresses etc. The skill is in arranging your punchlines on the spot inbetween whatever your freestyling.

Believe it or not, the best freestylers currently is Kid Cudi. He does what I call real freestyle, no prewrittens involved.

coogar:
this is the most idiotic comment on this thread. rap olympics = 97, rap god = 2013. even if we agree for arguments sake that eminem couldn't freestyle in 1997, it then means he hasn't improved 16 years later?

eminem freestyled in rap olympics - he had 6 ties against juice before he was defeated in the final. if he couldn't freestyle, is ibime insinuating eminem wrote 6 different rounds for the final match? eminem saw the future and he knew 3 rounds wouldn't be enough so he wrote 6?

some of you know nada about battle rap. it's a shame that a head as big as ibime's has no logical content in it. how can a seasoned battle rapper not know how to freestyle & he came 2nd in a rap competition held faraway in LA in 1997. the only reason juice won was the homecourt advantage.

Eminem didn't freestyle in Rap Olympics. Almost every lyric he dropped in that competition turned up on Slim Shady LP album. They were prewrittens.