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Nihilist: May God punish you every morning for the rest of your miserable life. During that particular argument, I am the 1st to admit that I got the calculation wrong.

Why you dey vex bros? You ain't moving an ant with these curses. You dey curse person wey no curse you. You be market woman?

You were unable to comprehend simple JSS2 level Maths calculation after a whole 24 hours of explanation, and Ibime corrected you. Na why you dey carry me for mind, sotay you just wake up one morning dey curse my ancestors?

Nihilist: Shut your lying gob, you fat reprobate.

Who said this?


Bale is better than Kalou
VDV and Mata are almost mate
Lennon is better than Sturridge
Adebayor has 30 goals and assists, better than anything DD+Torres could muster.


Why did Modric not create 3 goals per game.

Shebi Modric was not on the pitch when they lost 5-1 to Chelsea, 4-2 to Arsenal, 5-1 to United, 6-1 and 3-1 to Citeh etc etc

Modric should be ashamed of his performance in any game where he came up against any kind of decent midfielder.

PLEASE STOP TALKING NONSENSE!!!!

Modric to lift Chelsea when he can't lift better players at Spurs?

Modric would look good at Chelsea. . . . but results would not improve!!!

This is why I say ninjas should speak in context. We were querying Modric's poor goal and assist record, and someone said he played with worse players at Spurs and would improve his assists and goals record at Chelsea.

I said why would he improve his goals and assists record, and who are the worse players at Spurs in 2011/2012?

Would he assists Torres and 34 years old DD better than Adebayor who just socred and made 30 goals that year? Is it VDV who scores 15 goals a season, Bale who scores 20 a season or Lennon on the right wing vs Sturridge that are the poor players he's playing with? In a season where Spurs finished 4th and Chelsea finished 6th.

You never saw me type that Mikel and Ramires are better than Modric so what you yarning about? I said £40m is too much for Modric and gave alternative midfielders we should buy, you are here ranting.

If you want to know the origin of that debate, it goes back to a debate in 2009 between myself and Nateevs where Nateevs wanted Modric and I said Ballack, Essien and Lampard is enough. It's just spillover of that debate with Nateevs on Modric vs Lampard, you just jump in without knowing what the two ninjas are discussing about.

This ninja never made any comment in Modric first season when he was voted worst player in Spain, he just waited till Modric is on top of his game to attack Ibime out of context. . . . because he dey carry Ibime for mind over old matter.

Now, I could go digging up your previous posts. . . . but naaaah. . . . you just dey fight with yourself. Only ninja I used to do that with is Nateevs over long running debates. What's eating you?

AirborneLacer: Yepa!
Someone is being busted

Don't talk about busted bro. . . . you know I'm just amused at the moment. . . .you don't want me taking gloves off. . .

I no get Nihilist time jare.

The boy dey carry my matter for him mind since one day when we dey discuss simple multiplication.

Sotay he accuse me, a Sturridge aficionado, of claiming Lennon is a better player than Studge. He no give the context of the discussion.

Modric issue is old issue me and Nateevs have been arguing since 2009. I said we don't need Modric when we have Lampard, Ballack and Essien.

2012, they said Modric is available for £40m, I said there are better cheaper alternatives are on the market and listed them.

Every ninja knows that in the last 2 years, even Friday Elaho is preferable to me than the clowns we've been calling central midfielders. The ninja just quote shít out of date and context because he carry Ibime for mind.

Dont worry ninja, I no get time to dig your previous monikers where you were the one saying Chelsea does not need new central midfielder, or producing chart to absolve Torres of playing like a wastepipe. Bros get Ibime for mind, that's why he just start cursing and fighting out of nowhere. Na thís kain behaviour dey make Seun dey ban am every 2 months

Nihilist: Ibime if you had any sense of self respect, you would jump out the nearest window onto a bed of nails, after having previously doused yourself in petrol and with a flaming tyre hanging from your corpulent neck

I know you have me in your heart ninja. . . I'm busy. . . . go play elsewhere. . .

AirborneLacer: So according to your Ikputic assertion if Matic who's already on one league goal ends up scoring 5 goals in all competitions this season, he's a box to box player?
Bro go back to sleep!

I'm cool ninja. Just taking a young one to task for talking what's beyond him. Before I leave, I'm not the one who said all these:

AirborneLacer: If Redondo et al could travel upfield, grab assists and goals whilst maintaining their primary role which is to serve as the team's defensive aegis, then that makes them special - It goes to show the talent they are.

AirborneLacer: Makelele was known for one thing - Redondo was known for many things!

AirborneLacer: It would be pretty hard for us to be on a common ground if you keep on denying the fact that Claude possessed limited skillset.

A pre-2003 article isn't going to help issues here. The most important thing about the article you just read was that Redondo, Rijkaard et al whom you've been claiming all nite are CMs were identified as DMs.

AirborneLacer: It doesn't work that way, not anymore. Just like CBs are seen scoring goals for fun these days, DMs are expected to maraude upfield, score goals, dictate the tempo of the game and grab assists. Anyone who simply babysits the backfour all in the name of carrying out the primary function of a DM lacks some skills - It's a fact!

Only to find out, the Redondo scored less goals than Makelele. Maybe he was limited?

You then compounded the issue by hailing Dunga and Deschamps as greats when they were technically nowhere near Makelele.


If you join with outsiders to denigrate a Chelsea legend by referencing older players you didn't really watch, I will call you to task ninja.

AirborneLacer: Aint in for this marathon.
.

Of course you ain't ain't got time for marathon because according to you, Makelele is limited because he is not box to box player like Redondo who scored 14 goals in his whole career. . . whilst Dunga and Deschamps were artisans on the ball whilst Makelele is not.

Nihilist: Ibime needs to shut up abeg...

Were you not the one that claimed Dembele would outshine Modric in central midfield?

Nigga better take a chill pill before you die of a heart attack at 32.

Abi no be you talk this one?

You've been having my name in your matter since the day you were shown not to be able to count your fingers. Trust me, you dont want to go into old matters because you were one of the Torres supporters on here.

We having current debate and you pulling up old matters without reference to date or context.

Why not provide context to the debate we were having? I'm sure we were discussing Spurs vs Chelsea and comparing the right-wing position. No wonder you cut my sentence.

Who no know say I've been championing Sturridge on this thread? Was there a bigger Sturridge fan on Chelsea thread than me and FBS?

AirborneLacer: It's a phucking analogy for christ sake no one is comparing Mikel's technique to Maka's.

Just like I said days ago, Mikel once possessed superb skillset. He scored goals, he assisted, he dictated the pace of the game - he knew when to slow the tempo of the game and when to increase it. He was a delight to watch some phucking years back that Blatter had to recognise him as the second best player at the U-20 World Cup after Lionel Messi.

He moved to Chelsea and got deployed to the DM position. His skillset that won him accolades and ofcourse a silver ball at the FIFA Junior World Cup got limited - he became uber-puck.

If Makalele just like Mikel once or even at the time of playing for us possessed admirable skillset but never put them to good use, wouldn't you agree that he was limited?

You're mistaking ''limited skillset'' for ''ineptitude''. No one is taking anything away from Claude here, he must have been good at step-overs, long range crosses, solo runs etc but for the fact that he never put them to good use while at Chelsea defines his limitations.

And please, don't you ever accuse me of kicking against Cesc's signing on the ground that we have Oscar. I kicked against his signing then cos he's been used more as an attacker at Barca and could find it pretty hard to fit into the midfield again - those were just fears of mine that have been put to bed this season. I had that argument with Lalaboy, you're not in the best of position to drop a word on it.

I dont eulogise Ramires' technique - he's technically inept, I only asserted that he's a valuable asset whose versatility would be of immense help for us on some occasions hence keeping him makes sense.

My view on Oscar was that he could replace Lampard if the latter retires. Prior to his signing, the Brazilian was simply amazing and possessed the potentials that could see him replace Lampard. I never for once at any time or on any thread claim that Oscar was better than Lampard. This issue came up last year or so, you can dig them up if you wish.

I understand what midfield play is cos I'm an amatuer soccer player who has been taken through the basic details in football {all thanks to Jorge Santos - my Academy handler}.

Dont you ever accuse me of ish I dont know.

Your views are your views and my views are my views. Logic has made it possible that we can argue on a particular issue whilst presenting diverging opinions. Yours can only be accepted if you've proven beyond every reasonable doubt that they are true.

I have a huge respect and admiration for you and some other vets on this board - I wish it remains that way.

Yours Sincerely,
Guapo McSinclair Jnr

Negro I'm starting to believe you were not really watching football when Makelele was playing.

You definitely weren't watching football when Deschamps and Dunga were playing.

Cos I would have said you have logic to your argument had you not named Dunga and Deschamps among the greats. Ninjas who were technically nowhere near Makelele.

And you DEFINITELY weren't watching football when Redondo was playing, to name Redondo who scored much less goals than Makelele as a box to box midfielder.

In Redondos day, if he ran to the opponents box, it would take him 3 minutes to return to his own box. I know, na dat Manyoo vs Real Madrid match dey confuse you. You are not a football watcher.

Why should Makelele run box to box when he is controlling a defence that concedes 13 goals in a season. I repeat - that's 13 goals in 38 matches - or one goal conceded every 3 matches. You must be on crack!!!

I'll be damned before I take lectures on midfield play from your kind. You only see midfielders when they start to dribble, that's why midfielders like Oscar look like Jesus to you. Negro, I will spot the quality or lack thereof in a midfielder in 20 mins that will take you half a season to recognise.

Dunga ko! Deschamps ni!

Thís negro forgot Deschamps was exactly the same age as Makelele was when Deschamps came to Chelsea. Both came to Chelsea at age 30. Abeg who here was a Chelsea fan back then? They should come and report.

afrodoc2: Mata is over dependent on his passing. When the passing option is not on Silva and Iniesta are quite good at shielding the ball or dribbling past their marker with a sudden burst of speed and trickery. Mata is not up to those guys standards in terms of protecting the ball,dribbling or pace.....he becomes almost useless when the passing option is not immediately available.

Mata lacks some kind of strength, stamina and ball protection that other small guys have. Mata is a 12 year old playing football with adults.

Dayo, use thís Gerrard video hold yourself.

Thís is not his bloopers video, just a compilation from a single England match to show what a headless chicken he is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYHggzKlAi4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

raumdeuter: Ibime

Is Mikel a limited player? you never answer me o

Also Where is that gerrard fail passes clips you posted sometime ago or was it coogar

You know the answer. Mikel is technically gifted. He's just slow, can't defend and has no place in our debate.

It's like we discussing Ribery, Robben and Ronaldo and you asking me whether Joe Cole is limited. Where does Joe Cole come into şuch debate, even if he is not technically limited?

coogar: the french league was the bomb in the 90s - anyone with cable television in lagos then would know on CFI channel.

i remember watching the final of the new champions league - it was marseille & abedi pele doing africa proud. even though we ain't from ghana, nigerians rooted for marseille just because of abedi pele.

Our own was Canal+ Popsie got it just in time for 94 World Cup. All our neighbours park in our house every Sunday for highlights show. When we play counterball, I always pick Nantes from France, Deportivo from Spain, Inter from Italy and Ajax from Holland.

Katsumoto: If we start counting the number of semi-final participation by country, I doubt France would be second.

Only one team per country qualified for UCL back then.

France would be the 2nd. Go and count it

afrodoc2: This is a bit misleading. In the era Makelele was in Nantes the French League was better than the EPL.

In 1993 Marseille won the champions league

In 1994 Monaco got to the semi final

In 1995 PSG got to the semi final

In 1996 Nantes got to the semi final

In fact i believe 1997 was the first year an English team did better than a French team in the champions league and that was the year Makelele left France for Spain.

France had 1 winner and 3 semifinalists in 4 years, England had 2 2nd round and 2 group stage exits in the same 4 years. The Serie A,La Liga and Ligue 1 were top dog in those years

We know the footie watchers from the pseudo intellectuals.

You even forgot to add that Monaco were semifinalist in 1997 or 1998, knocking out Manyoo along the way with that David Trezeguet thunder strike.

Katsumoto: Champions league Winners by Country
Spain - 14
England 12
Italy - 12
Germany - 7
Netherlands - 6
Portugal - 4
France - 1
Scotland - 1
Romania - 1
Yugoslavia - 1

Yes the French league is ultra elite in Europe; so competitive it has won as much ECL titles as Romania and Scotland.

Thís is why you are a pseudo intellectual aka Google analyst.

We watch thís shít and you run to Google.

In the 1990s, Makelele was playing in French league, one of the two or three best leagues in Europe as evidenced by their teams always making semifinal or final, whilst Blackburn and Manure were almost always knocked out in first round.

Thís Google analyst would soon tell us Portuguese league is one of the best based on what Benfica did in the 60s.

We the football heads were watching footie, he was busy reading Okeke physics, then he'll come 18 years later to argue based on what he researched on Wikipedia.

I brought up Nantes to show that Maka is not limited, he is simply a specialist like Busquets.

I did not need to show his attacking play for at Nantes anyone with an iota of footie intelligence to know he is technically excellent. Football watchers already know he is a playmaker par excellence.

Thís Katsumoto is just a maga who doesn't know jack about footie. We see how his favourite player Gerrard always shows his limited technique when he plays in Maka position. You would either see Gerrard dashing the ball to opposition strikers or failing to control simple bàlls and dashing bàlls to Demba Ba, Henry, Drogba, Zidane and co. when asked to do simple things that Maka does in his sleep.

Get lost fückface!

Emaprince: Somebody should eat this freestyle . .. .


Ibime's a swine and hopeless/ I might attack him when my nines are loaded/
Nigga,you dont measure up . . . . the Prince already attained the height of d.openess/
I fight with known vets/ . . and you see bloody scenes plus the cop's baricade/
So take my advice and get your @ss running mate . . like election candidates/
Ya skills are not adequate/ to brawl with the prince/ . . or ruffle his wings/
The heir's hungry for the crown . . vacate the throne or I'll forcefully topple the king/
You had some bubble gum wins/against dudes wrongly hyped as the vets/who lost they life in a sec/
You shoved a stick up coog and U3's @ss . . and robbed them of they dieing respect/
So should we expect a pride in your text?/ . .cos you won some jobless dudes?/
even the b!tch that born a coog/cursed the fool/ . . who's in NL chatting night,morning,noon/
So your victory is a worthless news/since you yet to face a war/where vets are gored/with blade and sword/
Cos while I was trading bullets in war fronts..coog was in family section with married women trading words/
The truth,guess I should say it more/and thats what they hate me for/..i never neglected the facts/
You battled one of the oldest face book rappers . . who never respected the art/
But he feels perfect in his heart/ . .long in fb textrap .in this game,a sixten yr old fool/
That's eleven years older than me . .but peep his verse and you'll mistake his writtens for a note book/
I ain't seeing the flows dude!/ but they embrace my style/its in glaciers rhymes/prince flows are rated high/
But that xlites punk disobeys hooke's law and stretches past the limit...hence,he dropping shapeless lines/
Now its clear bis couldnt face my kind/ cos i'm that bigger fish/ . far from this nigga's reach/
You couldnt stand up to me . . thats like messy vs keeper b1tch!/ . . some sitter sh1t!!/
now seek for peace/cos you couldnt beat the kid/with freestyle wits/..no time to rehearse for wars/
I ain't slow witted like U3 who asked for a rich amount of time to write . . yet,his verse was poor/
I've got the heart to brawl/and when my gun's speaking,its bold/..blaow!..bullets pieces a foe/
It's best you retreat to your home/cos you bound to bleed through the nose/when i put a fist in a glove/
And once I reach for your throat/ . . your voice is bound to get muffled/
So watch how you get stripped of power . . once you prance around or flex muscles!!/

Hehehe. Hold your bars ninja. Your time dey come.

After seeing the video, they claimed it was in an easier league. Forgetting the same Makelele led his team to UCL semifinal.

Abeg tell me how a team from soft league reached UCL semifinal.

The 90s was not like today where you have major disparity in quality of league.

Whilst Manure failed to go anywhere in UCL until 1999, teams like Monaco, Marseille and Nantes were dominating in UCL. regularly reaching semifinals and winning it in Marseille case.

So shebi French league na backwater league, if so what would we call EPL?

raumdeuter: Ibime

Is Mikel a limited player?

Shut your mouth Raumdeuter.

Is Mikel a footballer to discuss? We are discussing the best DMs and you are bringing Mikel into conversation. If Mikel could actually do his primary job of defending, then we can discuss him.

I'm flabbergasted that some peeps are including carthorses like Dunga, Deschamps and Gattusso in discussion on World Class DMs and then call Makelele a limited player.

We know who is watching football and who is not.

Makelele was a playmaker in DM. He never gave the ball away, dictated tempo of the game and hardly ever tackled anybody - His positioning and reading of the game was that superb.

Nothing signifies thís more than one Emirates Cup game I attended between PSG and Valencia. PSG had no hold of the midfield. Maka came on at halftime and no one could get near him. The quality of his passing just showed he was the best technical midfielder on the pitch that day. The tempo, possession play - everything changed for PSG the moment he came on.

Manyoo is playing Chelsea. Instead of Makelele to be marking Rooney, SAF is asking Rooney to mark Makelele. Who is the playmaker and who is the defensive midfielder?

We are watching who knows football and who doesn't. That boy Guapo should be whipped 50 lashes. Not surprising he doesn't know much about midfield play going by his antecedents of rating Oscar above Lampard, kicking against the signing of Fabregas cos "we've got Oscar", rating Mikel and Ramires etc when I told him they're not fit for purpose, now mentioning carthorses like Dunga and Deschamps whilst downplaying Makelele. That boy would not know central midfield play if it kicked him in the face.

Makelele when he was an attacking midfielder at Nantes. Limited indeed!

Check out his 'Kanu drag' at 2:20. Same skill he used to use all the time in defensive midfield.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAhLl1KCLT4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Battle of the round. . . back tomorrow

Y'all sleeping on Whizzys Lugard punch. I enjoyed that.

We've got contender for wordplay of the year sha. . . Cattarrh loan ya

Ultimately though, MVGT: Loona

Did Kid not write the full amount of lines?. . . cos his verse way shorter.

Jigsaw throwing jabs but it's enough to win thís cos the flow is sweet whilst it looks like Ice did not write enough lines.

MVGT: JIG

Krone lucky to escape with a lazy verse. If Express had maintained the momentum of his first 2 bars, he woulda won thís easily.

MVGT: Krone

Warriblood funny as usual, but Giyazz more skilled and polished.

MVGT: Giyazz

Katsumoto: That Makelele was limited in skillset is an issue for Makelele; it shouldn't remove from others who can actually join attack from time to time. It is like saying that a Tahoe is better than a Mercedes GL because it can go from point A to B and is not bothered by all the expensive gizmos in the GL. Makelele was very good at breaking up play but he was very limited.

The only think I hate more than a dumb ninja is a pseudo intellectual.

Makelele limited in skillset? I guess thís coming from the same guy who rates Gerrard as a midfield God.

Makelele was extremely gifted in skillset. A brilliant passer of the ball, a game controller from deep and the only ninja who does the 'Kanu drag' regularly in midfield.

A pseudo intellectual would not remember how Makelele was an attacking midfielder in his younger years and was one of the gifted attacking midfielders in the Champions league in that position, taking Nantes to the UCL semifinal in 1996. His name was ringing like Seedorf and co back then when you talk of attacking midfielders. That was when he used to have hightop haircut.

We were watching thís shít whilst these pseudo intellectuals were reading Okeke physics.

AirborneLacer: Mate, Lele was a decent DM but definitely not the best in that position.

Before Lele made it to the turf, great men like Deschamps, Redondo, Dunga, Albertini, Rijkaard, Souness, Tardelli etc have been showing the world how the No4 role functions.

I've seen clips of these lot and dang they were out of this world.

I'd rather say, Lele held down that position in the 2000s. That's also arguable, considering that Keane, Viera, Gattuso, Senna and Cambiasso were all on top of their games within those years.

Take Deschamps and Dunga off your list. They were not footballers.

Mik why not unsticky thís thread and the Loona vs Glacierz thread so the tourney threads can rise to the top.

I go vote on the tourney battles tomorrow. Hope it won't be too late.

Someone should please summarise. I ain't clicking on all these pages.

Paulo Montero school of defending. . . if you can't get the ball, get the ninny. . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoofVE3dxu0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Guykhena: Limerick wan kill person with laugh,lol
But the below Ibime line is brilliant na

"We ain't tryna hear your rhymes. . . they ain't that sick/ so likedrug mules in aeroplanes. . . nigga,save that shít!!!/ "

Drug mules/traffickers in airplanes always end up hiding crack up their a$$ hence the 'save that shiit' end...
Nice set up

That was ma favourite line.

If you swallowed 2 wraps of cocaine and shít dey hungry you for plane, nigga you better save that shít!

Nice one U3. . . . . that's ma dude. . .we easy with this thing called rap.


@ Emaprince

E be like say this Lord of Rings tournament put all non-tournament battles on hold according to Mikuz, so we have to hold our battle after it finishes.

Everything that I drop is divine/ You better 'go hug transformer'. . . .like you 'greeting Optimus Prime'!/
Ain't no way this dude stopping my shine/ cos if '3 square up to me'. . . he'll get shot with a 'nine'!!/

Bis. . .shout the name/ Viscount of Spain/ I eat a $100 bill . . . and shít . . . this clown the change!/ This is a '3 course beating'. . . watch me 'dish out the pain'/ I choke the shít out this lame/. . .by wrapping plastic round his head. . . like old women. . . tryna keep their wigs out the rain!/

If this bítch doubt the reign/ I'll let the AK muzzle U/ but before I give this L. . . he best heed this subtle cue/
A shot from the Mossberg. . . will 'leave 3 on his back'. . . like the Comic Sans [size=14pt]w[/size]!!/

I break that kid/ soon as I raise ma fist/ X-games. . . he gon' skydive off Mainland Bridge/
We ain't tryna hear your rhymes. . . they ain't that sick/ so like drug mules in aeroplanes. . . nigga, save that shít!!!/

I go ape and schitz!/ if he testing the leader/ He don't want beef, he a vegetable eater/ You nút-hugging tésticle squeezer!/ Chicks ain't impressed with the geezer/. . . cos he can't afford Brazilian hair . . . while me and my wife in Rio. . .catching festival fever!/

Your mum know the éffing procedure/ she best drop the panty/ and súck the candy/
So far, I've been kind to the fúcking family/ but now I'm coming for her sister . . . it's time to 'up the ante'!/

She'll climb the pole like she tryna run a cable/ I tell her "strip". . . no questions like Young da Naval/
I mount a stool and pump her anàl/ and have her 'pússy bleeding all over the desk'. . . periodic table!!/

It's awful painful/ how I talk disdainful/ Sid a member of your crew. . . I bet you thought him tasteful/
I ain't talking racial/. . . but any Dog that survived around a Calabar man this long. . . should be more than grateful!!!/

I'll make this vandal bleed/ cleanse his family seed/ cos I hate his Calabar Bantu breed/
Bury him in his vehicle. . . inside a 'car tomb'. . . when I attack with my Sudanese Janjáweed!/ (Khartoum)

My niggas in Port can't wait to bury the leper/ Soon as he cross Calabar, his head'll get severed/
We'll blockade East-West road with techs and barrettas/ so he can't 'pass cal'. . . without 'measuring pressure'!!/ (Pascal)

Who said that he's better?. . . okey dokey!/ This homie phony/ He best don't provoke me/
before bullets touch his head, shoulders, knees and toes. . . like I'm teaching him azonto. . . or the hokey cokey!/

I’ll blind his optics/ fire rockets/ and have docs performing diagnostics/
You spit a lot of 'Science topics'/. . . but like Chemistry majors. . . we don't 'buy your logics'!/

Kanye West career advice. . . fúck how he gon' feel/
The major he major in. . . won't pay his heat or bills/ He should drop out the course. . .but he read on still/
I eat off skill/ and make cheese for real/. . . but 3's course. . . can't guarantee him a three course meal!!!/

I make large fat grands/ off hard rap fans/ Just bought my wife a ride. . . no charge, that's fam!/
but if Uduak gave a whip to anyone. . . we'll laugh silly. . . keeping up with his 'car dash' yarns!/

Last bar. . . I don't even feel I have to win/ I just came to light gas. . . and watch the bástard singe/
and see Doctors draw Maths on him. . . .but no be x-y axis. . . when they graft his skin!!/

EASY!!!

Bros if you have your verse on you let's drop.

What's longing this? Abeg make una hurry make I enjoy U3 verse jare.