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[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=279308.msg3978323#msg3978323 date=1244144644]Just like some Ijaws sometimes come here and chat shit about igbos or Yorubas or hausas, will I conclude that Ijaws hate these people?.  Should you conclude that itsekiris as a whole  hate Ijaws because of Lori ogbebor's comment?. How did you suddenly conclude that igbos hate ijaws because Naijaking expressed his ignorant views about the war?. Should we conclude that Yorubas hate igbos because of Becomerich?. The truth is that the average igbo man including me knows ijaw by name but may not point out who is ijaw or not among the riverine tribes. How can you hate what you don't know?. Was it not from someone here[may be you] that I learnt that kalabari is ijaw?. May be I hate my friends Tekena and Ibiso because of a war neither of us knew when it happened. My friend, I don't hate you and I don't have any reason to hate you for what its worth. Enough of these juvenile tantrums going on here, it's getting boring.[/quote]Nah mate. . . . sorry, I should say that some Igbos like Naijaking etc keep chatting shit. . . . anyway, you know what I mean. . . don't misconstrue me cos me sef I be omo Igbo

I don't need to answer that question. Was Zik involved in the war for either side? It follows that those who fought for Naija rose to prominent positions in Rivers and Delta State. I don't need to mention their names cos they are our heroes also, for other reasons than the Biafran war. Really, I am perplexed at the hatred Igbos have toward Ijaws. Growing up in PH and being around my extended family (which is a royal family, thus indicative of the will of my people), I don't know anyone who did not support Biafra. All this shit is news to me, courtesy of Nairaland. However, since the war, a lot of Igbos have been chatting shit. . . . forcing a lot of Ijaws to take the other side of the debate.

udezue:
Ibime,
why is it that the anti-Igbo / Biafra leaders of Ijaw extraction are now the ones who seem to be speaking for the IJAW and are given publicity? I believe that the silence of the Ijaws who are not in support of the hate promoted by them is unfortunately making it seem like the Ijaw people as a whole are troublesome and hateful of their neighbors.

For the same reason that all Igbos who led Biafra during the war are now silenced. . . .those who fought for Naija were rewarded with political power, allowing them to rise to a position of prominence. . . . .those who fought for Biafra are either dead, abroad or keeping a low profile just like the Igbos.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=279308.msg3978030#msg3978030 date=1244140559]The guy obviously knows nothing about Biafran war.[/quote]Nah. . . . I think YOU know nothing about the Biafra war except the lies you have been fed. . . . listen to your brother. . .

udezue:
PH actually had the largest group of Biafra supporters in Enugu during demonstration right b4 the war started. The problem is that the anti Biafra ppl among the Ijaws were the loudest and overshadowed the ones in support of Biafra. You hear more of Edwin Clark, Adaka Boro than Frank Opugo, etc who led their own people in support of Biafra till the end.

naijaking1:
Frontline
Ijaws actively sabotaged Biafra, sacrificing their Igbo, Efik, and Ibibio brothers to the Hausa man. Many Ijaw people still don't regret their action against Biafra as we speak.
You reap what you sow; the Niger delta is made of other tribes apart from Ijaws, so any complaint from any of those tribes against Ijaw people will be reflective.

My friend stop chatting shit!

Is that the revisionist history that your elders taught you?. . . . meanwhile my pops lost three friends fighting for Biafra. . . . listen mate, even your Igbo commanders have written books on the war lauding the effort of the Ijaws during the war. . . . look, don't talk about what you don't know about. . . . if Ijaws were against Biafra, PH would be the first city to fall, yet all Igbo cities fell before PH. . . . I only pray you get rid of your Ijaw hatred. . . , if some Ijaws fought for Naija, that is their own business. . . . they do not speak for Ijaws. . .each to his own according to his belief. . . before worrying about the Ijaws, it is best to worry about your Ikwerre, Etche and Ndoni brothers. . . . it is well known that up until 10 years ago, all Ijaw villages were kindgoms unto themselves. . . .there was nothing like the Ijaw nation and no centralised structure. . . . Okrika spoke for itself, ditto Nembe, Bonny, Kalabari etc. . . . me whole family fought for Biafra, only to come here 40 years later and hear this nonsense from you. . . . thunder fire you!

Oi, whats going on here?  

Cristalz, I can't believe you're backing up this tout called Mr McCrackles.  

FBS:
besides, I also remember that as at last season most chelsea folks were wishing he became a Chelsean. true or false?

Nigga speak for yourself!

Rack me up? Nah, Ill whack you up!

Nah mate. . . . you cannot be born gay. . . . society is what pervades your mind and distorts your preference. . . . if you were born in a society where homosexuality is encouraged, your chances of becoming gay are higher. . . . for example, look at the explosion in the number of gays in Naija since we got exposed to the internet and modern communication. . . . I can swear, I never knew what gay was until I was 14 years old. . . .one day, I was just going home in my estate when an older guy stopped me and started chatting to me saying he wants to be my friend and bla bla bla. . . . I thought it was one of the usual 'friend requests' you so often get in Naija. . . . .I said OK. . . .from there I went to my friends house (who was 23 years old) and told him that that guy at the gate said he wants to be my friend and bla bla bla. . . . all of a sudden, my friend got angry, saying he is going to go and talk to the guy at the gate and tell him to mind his business. . . . I said "why now?". . . . he said the guy is gay. . . and that was the first time I learnt the notion of homosexuality. . . . I never knew it was even an option. . . so in answer to your question, NO!. . . . no one is born gay. . . . some guys are naturally effeminate, but I know many effeminate guys we grew up with in Naija who are red-blooded heterosexuals. . . .

FBS:
No you didnt say that. . .Villa struggling to get a buyer or maybe I didnt get you correctly?

Nah, what I am saying is why would Eto (the same age in 2008 as Villa is now) who is probably the best striker in the world struggle to find a buyer?. . . . . answers on a postcard please. . . . look, Barca are no mugus, they are still actively looking to sell him despite all he did this last season. . . . abeg, we don't need another Sheva or Pizarro collecting money with no hope of selling them on. . . .

FBS:
@Ibime, they wanted to sell him last year and damn lucky they never did. . .I can't imagine Barca winning the treble without him. He is a team player, yep maybe not getting younger but his work ethic is colossally intimidating. (kai I don begin to blow grammar like one naija senator . ,  y'all need to see the video).

For me age should not be a factor as long as you can produce the goods. Call me names but that is my position.

I don't want some young players come and start making big heads simply because age is on his side. Give me a proven winner and complete player. I will be happy. Exception should only be made for players from our own very Academy.

This is the difference between me and you and why we disagree on JM issues. . . . . in reality, Eto' is 31. . . . . you buy him, give him 4 year contract and he is kaput in 2 years. . . . the other 2 years, he is just collecting like Winston Bogarde. . . . . thats poor fiscal management. . . . now tell me why a 27-year-old hotshot (in 2008) is on the transfer market and no big club comes in for him except Tottenham. . . . obviously, word gets around. . . . when Drogba was 30 years old, everybody wanted him despite his age cos they know his age is real. . . . . why would the greatest striker of the present moment, (27 years old just like David Villa is now) struggle to find a buyer?. . . . listen mate, fiscal management is key to good management. . . . . Nateevs and I are not like those who close their eyes and pay no attention to the fiscal side of things as long as you deliver trophies. . . .

nateevs:
The unfortunate thing is that Drogba and Lampard are single-styled players and not adaptable. .
To achieve tactical flexibility at Chelsea, we have to bench these players. .

Come on mate, I will not have anyone dissing the golden child. . . . .do you know how many key passes Lamps makes, how many dribbles he is successful at and the number of his assists. . . . .

Check my thread. . . . the stats are amazing. . . .

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-279425.0.html


According to Jeff Powell of the Daily Mail, Lamps is the ONLY midfielder in the world capable of combining artistry and box-to-box workrate. . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1189931/What-football-rank-Chelsea-star-Frank-Lampard.html

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=278701.msg3974213#msg3974213 date=1244078651]@Ibime,

To say I'm dissapointed in you will be an understatement. Gone are the days when dissent is met with superior argument, but that cannot and should no longer be expected from people like you. What is the point of the personal invectives? To silence dissent or to massage your ego?

I am still waiting for someone to respond to the articles with some salient points to refute the allegations levelled in the articles, buit it appears it aint gonna come. That's okay, 'cos I know none of you's got any answers.

And now that you've started the personal abuse, one can expect other dogs to follow suit. People who can't reason for themselves but depend on following the herd. I would have been surprised if they had kept quiet.

And please, you don't have to respond to my posts on nairaland. It is not by force. You have your proclevities and I have mine. Our paths have no need to cross if it does not beget mutual respect.

I have been gracious in my response to you so far. I really feel no need to do so any more.[/quote]Relax mehn. . . . you should be used to me taking potshots at you by now. . . . of course I mean nothing by it. . . . .the use of smileys should tell you that I was not dissing you wholeheartedly

Anyway, I have addressed your points. . . . but if you raise such nonsensical points again, it will be followed by the mother of all curses!

nateevs:
(1.) If I am not getting my figures wrong . . .
Edin scored 26 goals this season and 30 in all competitions for Wolfsburg . .
Claudio scored 17 goals this season and 26 in all competitions . . . taking into account the 6 goals in uefa cup and bearing in mind that Edin did not play in uefa cup . . .

(2.) Secondly I don't see aw Torres does more work for the team than Edin. . . 50 goals in 2 seasons and we say the days of the goal poacher is gone . . ? We'll be pissing in our pants if we had a Torres . . .


(3.)I believe it's about getting the balance right. . If you are playing a Dzeko then you are playing like a Pato and Lampard behind him and you also have pacy wingers with good crossing abilities. . It'll be suicidal to play like a Drogba and Dzeko at the same . . it's like taking 2 players out of the first line of defense. . .

(1.) Yeah, yeah. . . . give or take a few goals here and there

(2.) Torres does a lot for the team, either aerially, by working the channels, or runnning in behind defenders. Torres is a complete striker. He takes two players out of the game just by his presence. On the other hand, Dzeko hasn't got much to contribute down the channels or running in behind

(3.) The bolded part states exactly why we don't need Dzeko. We already have Drogba, and unlike Dzeko, Drogba can run the channels or in behind, plus he's better aerially.


@ FBS

Eto? Hell to the no! Eto was exposed to be at least 3 years older than he says he is a couple of years ago. He claimed that the first time he met Roger Milla was at a qualifier between Cameroun and Zambia when he was young. He said Roger gave him a shirt, and he added that he was 7 years old at the time. Some journalist went and dug up the archives and found that the match between Zambia and Cameroun was in 1985, when Eto should have been no more than 4 years old. This is the main reason Barca wanna sell him. They know he's only got a few years left at the very top. It doesn't matter if he scores 50 goals a season, they are still looking for a replacement.

Don't be silly. If Arsene was interested in Uche, he wouldn't announce it so publicly. . . . besides Arsene already knows that Uche is close to 30 years old. . . .

MrCrackles:
Will you shut the flying fuc.k up dude!

Me tout? NAH! You need to check you forehead and see the label on it, Arrow!

You have spent a lifetime trying to woo crizzle on this forum but to no avail, i sealed things quicker than a smash "n" grab raid!

It is understandable when you come out huffing and puffing like an unfit footballer, i understand your frustrations old man

I am as hot as fish grease, the brightest crayon in the box, sweetest in a pick and mix bunch

Suave, savvy and dapper, typical Brashy's xteristics, IBIME fall back or am'a push your weight back

It doesnt matter what stunt you try to pull, Crizzle my drizzle knows who the daddy is!

Crizzle constantly has my back everywhere on and off this thread, loyal downass chick!

hehehehehe. . . . . this boy, you get mouth o. . . . those sporting waves must be seeping into your skin and affecting your cognitive facilities. . . . Crizzle is on lockdown. . . . no need for me to stress over that. . . . .I keeps her on a long leash. . . . you could call it an open-source relationship . . . . whilst you keep expending kilojoules in pursuit of her . . . . . right now, you're still a potential . . . but my potential turns kinetic quick . . . . seal the deal? . . . . .you couldn't score a free-throw, so adios amigo!!!

I wonder when this Rash will stop fawning over Crizzle and dribbling saliva over this thread. Ol' boy, Crizzle is uber-sophisticated, not for touts like yourself. Of course, I just play the cut, observing your laughable attempts to steal my chick with a measured amount of equanimity, knowing that no one can go into a strong man's house and take his possessions without first binding him up.

@ Nateevs,

Bear in mind that Claudio Pizarro is outscoring Dzeko in Germany. . . . . IMO, they're are as similar as peas in a pod. . . . both tall, both not skilful, both strong, but not uber-mobile, can't dribble, same first touch etc. . . . really, I don't see what Dzeko has to offer that we don't already have. . . . . the days of the goal poacher are over!. . . . every player must contribute significantly from a tactical standpoint. . . .

Tayo-D is a prick!

How many times has Jaguar Rover been Nationalised in Britain?

What of Renault in France?

Even when they are not being nationalised, Govt is bending over backward, giving em taxpayer money to keep them viable.

Almost all countries see their automobile industry as a matter of National pride and a cornerstone of the manufacturing industry. If there is a major car company about to go bust and no buyers are found on the private market, it almost always follows that the Govt will take a controlling stake in the company.

Who first started nationalising companies? George Bush or Obama?

Only an idiot like Tayo-D would follow his textbook definitions of ideology to the bitter end.


Hugo Sanchez and Castro were just poking jabs at Yankee over Yankees opposition to forced Nationalisation in Cuba and Venezuela. It is a case of Sanchez claiming one-upmanship on Yankee. Infact Sanchez said the same about Bush turning to a socialist. It is his running joke these days.

Unfortunately the delinquent Tayo-D has swallowed so much propaganda, and is so immersed in his hatred for Obama, he has resorted to the worst form of smearing. What is more worrying is that a man of his age and supposed education has such a limited grasp of history, politics and economics that his one-track mind cannot filter information adequately. He only judges world events through the narrow prism of a world view he imbibed from some dickheads on the radio. Lack of exposure truly is a disease. I thank God for those who have been exposed to all colours of the spectrum; especially so when I bump into people like Tayo-D!


Finally, Environmental issues are a matter of National and World interest! It is time to incentivize the production of clean cars. And since GM is broke and keep producing gas-guzzling SUVs, its time to force em to do the right thing!

jantavanta:
Presently, tribes and ethnic groups seem to be confined to Africa, native America and Middle East / India

Not at all. . . . in Spain we have the Castilians, Catalonians, Andalucians, Basque etc. . . . although they prefer to call themselves nations. . .

Bitch needs to stop chatting shit. . . . who made this goat a Chief. . . . first it was the Oba banning palm-fruits, now this bitch wants to expose her small-mindedness to the whole world. . . . which kain Chiefs we get for Naija?. . . . even if Ijaws were doing all she claimed, this stupid diatribe of hers would only entrench hostilities. . . .



What is this:


We read in the newspapers, about what was happening in Gbaramatu but the Ijaws were all over the place sending threatening text messages to every Itsekiri man abusing them and the governor that Itsekiri are in league with the JTF

This bitch better stop generalising. Maybe one of her PDP cohorts in their chop-money gang sent her a text. I doubt the average Itsekiri man in the street is receiving threatening texts from his Ijaw friends.  If the average Ijaw man was pissed-off, he would have cracked some heads by now, not sending texts like e-gangsters. 


I want to tell the Ijaw that it is not everybody that likes violence.

Implying that Ijaws are generally violent?



They should realise that they do not have monopoly of violence.

Is that a threat? Someone in her position should know better. She thinks she can just fling words around like the average tout? Does she know how many people are influenced by her statements?



If she is doing the Governors bidding, she better say so, instead of flinging mud all over the place. Even if the Ijaw leaders are putting pressure on the Governor, she should address those leaders, not talk shit about the whole tribe.

jantavanta:
I see the term "tribe" freely used in this Culture Forum. I would like to know exactly what is a "tribe"?

Why are citizens of Luxembourg not called a tribe? If common language and relative micro-existence (population-wise) defines people as a tribe, then we should talk about the English tribe, Welsh tribe, Scottish tribe, Swedish tribe or the Sicilian tribe.

Why has the term "tribe" been chosen for Africans, and accepted by us without question?

The term tribe is not only used for Africans, but Europeans before de-tribalisation. . . . Europeans had Goths, Franks, Saxons, Celts etc. . . . same with Indians. . . . Incas, Mayans, Aztecs etc. . . . nothing new. . . . there is no conspiracy against Africans. . . . . keep it moving. . . .

Damn!

Taken on the chin

HNIC:
@ Gooners,
Has Tony Adams just confirmed what we have been thinking all this while

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/06/03/tony-adams-claims-arsene-wenger-doesn-t-have-support-of-board-115875-21410234/

Tony Adams na craze man. . . . just couple of weeks ago he was saying he still has plans to take over from Wenger. . . . I dont think he's mentally stable. . . . earlier this week, he fallaciously claimed that Celtic have offered him the job as manager, which they strenuously denied. . . . now he is dropping conjectures about someone in the Arsenal board not being behind Wenger, although he doesn't know who. . . . . and this morning, he was yarning rubbish about Wenger sending him on scouting mission to look at one Italian defender . . . . ."I’ve been down to Italy mainly," Adams explained to setanta.com. "The Italians don’t usually travel well, but I think this lad that I’m looking at may if we can come up with the money and there is a money issue at the Arsenal at the moment.". . . . . . this despite the fact that Wenger has told all Arsenal staff to "shut up" about potential transfer targets so that prices don't get inflated. . . . is this man seeking cheap publicity or what?. . . . the guy is just a loose cannon. . . .

nateevs:
Ok after waiting for long for Edin Dzeko's announcement. . he came out with nothing except this at a press conference. . .


" I would like to stay in wolfsburg for one more year, I have got a new agreement and its my decision to stay or not. I have not talked about going to Italy - Milan or Juventus, it was only England - The premiership".



Fingers crossed . . .

Abeg. . . . Edin Dzeko is not the man for Chelsea. . . . he is more Tottenham level. . . . if not for Grafite, he wouldn't shine as much. . . . Grafite would be the man for Chelsea but he's already 30 years old. . . . I dont know why you have your heart set on this Dzeko. . . . . Drogba is staying, lets hope Pato is coming. . . . . if so, our strikeforce next season would be sick!. . . .

lol

Please, we are not talking about Scummie pretenders like Carrick and Fletcher, we are only talking about the elite central midfielders in the country. Michael Essien is exempt cos of injury.


Premier League Goals:

Gerrard: 16
Lampard: 12
Barry: 5
Fabregas: 3
Alonso: 3

NB: Gerarrd scored 6 goals from penalties, Lampard scored 2.


Premier League Assists:

Lampard - 10
Gerrard - 9
Fabregas - 8
Barry - 7
Alonso - 6


Total Passes:

Alonso - 2,578
Lampard - 2,560
Gerrard - 1,930
Barry - 1,808
Fabregas - 1,788

NB: Fabregas missed 2 months of the season otherwise he would be higher up.


Key Passes:

Lampard - 124
Gerrard - 80
Fabregas - 63
Alonso - 62
Barry - 60



Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1190455/Barry-bonanza-City-man-130k-week-Tevez-next.html

The Pato story may have some legs. . . .


from BBC. . . .

Galliani reiterated recently that Milan might find it difficult to turn down offers for their prize Brazilian assets.

"We have had requests for Kaka and Pato from two of Europe's biggest clubs and we will try and resist but there is an uneven playing field," he stated.



Boy, I would definitely be excited by Pato!

Meanwhile, I am impressed by Ancelotti's physical conditioning methods. . . .



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1190417/Secrets-smuggled-Milan-revive-Chelsea-pensioners.html


[center][size=14pt]Roman keeps Drogba and hot-house secrets will extend his career[/size][/center]

. . . . . But, with the new Chelsea manager a confirmed admirer, the club have relented and will try to end the injury problems which have dogged the last few years of Drogba’s career by employing the secrets of AC Milan with which Ancelotti turned his players into the world’s fittest footballers.

The new Stamford Bridge manager is due to meet Glen Driscoll, Chelsea’s physical conditioning coach, to talk him through a pre-season training programme designed to extend the careers of an ageing squad.

Originally formulated inside the closely guarded MilanLab, buried deep inside Milan’s training ground near Lake Como, a team of technicians used the programme to extend the careers of Alessandro Costacurta, who retired at 41, and Paolo Maldini, who quit at the end of this season aged 40.

The secrets of the age-defying process are in Ancelotti’s briefcase, perfect for a club with nine players over the age of 30 - the team Sir Alex Ferguson famously predicted had peaked under Jose Mourinho.

Chelsea’s pre-season programme, which begins when Ancelotti addresses the squad for the first time on July 1, will involve rigorous testing of the players’ physical condition, their ability with the ball and a psychological analysis.

It is the programme used on Andriy Shevchenko when Milan agreed to sell him to Chelsea for £31million, and correctly identified that the striker was past his best.

David Beckham spent three hours in the MilanLab with Dr Jean-Pierre Meersseman, Milan’s head of medical science, when he joined on loan from LA Galaxy in January. Beckham passed the three hour ordeal, which also involved tests on eyesight and teeth and a thorough examination of his medical records, before his loan was approved.

One test showed he had a higher VO2 max - the volume of oxygen that can be absorbed at maximum capacity - than many younger players.

That session convinced Beckham that he could prolong his career beyond his predicted retirement age of 35, having been told by Dr Meersseman that it is possible to emulate the achievements of Maldini or even Costacurta if he followed their procedures.

Chelsea’s players will undergo similarly thorough tests. They will also take part in a velocity test, designed to judge the players’ reaction to certain events, simulating match action and their capacity to alter their intentions.

The MilanLab’s technical test will expose a few of Chelsea’s players, with lasers being used to determine the accuracy of their kicking with both feet.

My view: Salomon Kalou will fail this test!  

The secrets will fascinate Chelsea’s players, who will be wired to undergo a strict strength test that is named after famous Russian mountaineer Vitaly Abalakov.

Ancelotti’s methods, the brainchild of Milan president Silvio Berlusconi, are world renowned, often borrowed by the Italian national team who use Milan’s training base.

Even injured players from other Italian clubs have visited the MilanLab as part of their rehabilitation.

Chelsea’s training centre is built on similar lines, although Berlusconi added a basketball court at the request of Milan’s players, who often stay behind after training to shoot hoops.

Abramovich stopped short of erecting a full-sized court at Cobham, instead shelling out for the single hoop that hangs off one off the buildings.

It is rarely used, with most of Chelsea’s players heading home after lunch, but that is likely to change under Ancelotti.

While Ancelotti’s assistant Filippo Galli has so far agreed to stay at Milan, the manager is attempting to persuade psychologist Bruno di Michele to work with him.

Di Michele is credited with instilling the club’s winning mentality, opening the hearts and minds of the players to enable them to achieve greater success, putting past achievements behind them and looking to the future.

After three years without winning the Premier League, Chelsea certainly need an injection of something.

nateevs:
Hope he sorts out his arrogance though. . . He won't get to the top with that attitude of his. . .

He's not arrogant. . . . his uncle Dean Sturridge was the most humble footballer you'd ever meet. . . . he used to live near us in Lichfield back in the day. . . .

Good signing. . . . but what happens to Di Santo. . .

Also, Daniel asked Man City for £55,000 a week and they refused. . . . I hope thats not what we offered him. . . .

In other news, Didier Drogba has been offered a new three-year deal. . . .

BTW, Kaka is not the same player he was. . . . lacking that burst of acceleration that made him stand out.

Adeleye = Uche Okechukwu

Watch Dixon Etuhu mess up our game. . . the guy has no skill. . . . he should keep his English-style of play at Fulham abeg, we don't need his style of play. . .

lol. . . . Amodu said "Keep the ball, keep the ball". . . . when they lost the ball Amodu said "What kind of boys are these?". . . . lol