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O boy Naija dey play, you dey type long ting. . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=277718.msg3966648#msg3966648 date=1243971571]@ Ibime,

Get off his case. . . . . .Rome wasn't built in a day.[/quote]He's already 30 years old so he better start building fast

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=277718.msg3966601#msg3966601 date=1243971175]Sodje is a good player.[/quote]Good player who cannot get a game in the Championship, so Reading have to send him on loan to league 1. . . . Sodje is a League 1 player. . . with Adeleye, Akpam, Nwaneri, Yobo and Shittu in the team I dont expect him to smell first team. . . .


Goooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllll!


WTF does Domenech have such faith in Mandanda in a country that has Hugo Lloris, Sebastian Frey and Mickael Landreau between the sticks?

nateevs:
Transfer News

According to Agent, Chelsea have reportedly contacted 22 yr-old Belgian and AZ Alkmaar midfielder, Moussa Dembele.

Whichever journalist wrote that must be having a laugh cos Dembele is a striker, not a midfielder.

The boys are playing well. . . . all I wanna know is what is Kanu still doing in the team, likewise Sodje?

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=278297.msg3956543#msg3956543 date=1243823332]@TOH,
I never said anything was wrong with her! Would I nominate her, maybe not. As the poster said, it appears Obama may have nominated her because of her minority status.[/quote]My friend, he nominated her so that bigots like you would raise up a stink, driving the latino vote into democratic hands. . . . the Republican party is finished!

freed:
What is this all about? They  just want to show they  have completed their masters or PHD or feel superior or special. Its not all about using supersized words its all about communicating with your audience

just look at this post from: grafikdon

Perhaps you have been deeply immersed in the putrid quagmire of ethnic antagonism that you brand everyone with a divergent view an ethnic bigot

dede1

A nincompoop of your caliber can not draw me out of my academic shell to announce my area of academic discipline to the whole world through medium known as Internet. I have worked with and taught individuals from four continents for considerable amount of years in USA.
If I am your interviewer and asked you to write about yourself on impromptu, and the so-called scholar in you submitted paragraphs like you have been sketched them on this forum, you will be hauled to jail by the security personals.

Jakumo
More significantly, teeming hordes of Nigerian worshippers would be free get up off their knees where they had been immobilized in prayer like so many wildebeest, so as to re-engage their cognitive functions and get on with the many responsibilities and challenges of real life, rather than waiting in vain for the nirvana offered at great monetary cost in the afterlife by those rapacious "Men of Dog", who themselves know of no other occupation that stealing from the poor to finance their own lives of lavish consumption.

lol. . . . nothing dey happen. . . . Dede1 would not be Dede1 without blowing unnecessary grammar (with a few kpoas inside). . . . and Jakumo would not be Jakumo if he did not intersperse his devilish wit with big big grammar. . . . as for Grafikdon, I no know say him dey knack english like this. . . .

In the whole Newcastle squad, only Habib Beye, Steven Taylor and Bassong are Premiership players. . . . the rest are either old (Nicky Butt), unfit (Alan Smith), in and out of jail (Joey Barton), or have suffered irreversible mental breakdown (Damien Duff  ). . . . some might say Obafemi Martins is a premier league player, but I contend that it is not by might, nor by power  . . .

dyabman:
@Ibime

Are you trying to disfigure JM's image in the heart of all chelsea fans?

i dont get, i see nothing in what he has done or still doing, at least hes a winner

Im just providing insight my brother . . . . not all that glitters is gold . . . . . consider where we could be with a manager who signed the right players. . . . I am talking Ribery, Torres, Ibrahimovic etc. . . . at least Torres and Ribery were offered to Chelsea. . . . . players who were within our grasp but got overlooked for the machines currently in our squad. . . . when you have skilful players like this, everybody would want to come to Chelsea. . . . you create a dynasty and you dont have to spend so much cash to keep winning. . . .

otukpo:
Why did he make Achike Udenwa a Minister?

Wetin do Achike Udenwa?

Achike was gonna run for President, then sold his support base for a ministerial seat. Many people do it.

debosky:
Wenger will not buy two CBs from a relegating club, he will look at his stats and that will tell him that his own CBs together are better than Newcastle's CBs. Besides, we've never signed TWO CBs simultaneously so I will be surprised if it ever happens.

Mitigating circumstances. . . . first of all, Bassong only really played the last half of the season. . . . second of all, Habib Beye missed half the season. . . . thirdly, Damien Duff played the whole season at left-back. . . . not exactly the kind of protection from the flanks required. . . . finally, when Nicky Butt is the only holding midfielder in front of you, you're gonna have problems. . . . the boys were left terribly exposed, but they will come good eventually.

debosky:
For once I agree with you - The Bassong move was predicted by Myles P a few months ago as a 'done deal'

Nigga I'm always right! If you only agree with me once, then you be mumu

Whilst you are at it, I thinks Arsene should seriously enquire about taking Steven Taylor from Newcastle. . . . he's just what Arsenal need, despite a few phock-ups this season. . . he is a defensive organiser and he's strong in the air. . . plus he's cheap. . . . Bassong is also good, but more in the William Gallas mode. . .

BTW, FBS has been yarning shit on the Chelsea thread saying Arsenal haven't changed their style from counter-attacking footie to tippy-tappy. . . . please go and address that boy for me. . . . he will take it more serious coming from you.

FBS:
(1.) But one a more serious note, you got to be kidding me. Did you say AW problem was change in style? Arsenal has been playing the same brand of pass-the-ball-till-you-peme type of football. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt and other teams have simply come to understand how to stop them.

(2.) Would you say Italy play sexy football? But they have won the world cup, how many times? 4!!! second only to Brazil. Victories. That is where the success lies.

(3.) Where is Luis Boa Morte et all today? Eboue? I'm pretty certain half of the gunners hate his guts.

(4.) See, the moment the big GUNS left, everything fell apart. Call it bubble bust. Kids cannot win you trophy. They provide the platform for the long run IF properly managed but you cannot use "kids" as your first 11. No, it will not work. Not in today's football.

(5.) Tell me, how many times did Di-Santo, Stoch and MM play combined together under GH or LFS? You can actually count the number of minutes on one hand Reason is simple, not all managers/coaches are willing to take the risk.

(6.) The key element here is mentality and that is what JM is after. Maybe he is not the skillfull-hunting type of manager (who can blame him. . .he was a half baked goal keeper ) but his mentality you cannot fault. No strange he demands same from his players and Santon was right on target.

(7.) The Chelsea of today came about as a result of JM's ability to bring about this never-say-die attitude we all talk about.
If you have any complaints, check our trophy room and tell me if it was like that some 50+ odd years ago.

(1.) Don't be silly! Even Debosky has stressed this point in the past. Arsene changed the Gunners style of play when Cesc Fabregas arrived. Before 2005, it was a counter-attacking style with Vieira, Ljungberg and Pires breaking from box to box in 3 seconds flat. Again, a wise man should be able to tell the changing times 

(2.) Italy is not a club side and there is nothing to be nurtured. Players meet up for one-day a month and you do whatever is necessary to win games. . . . . . do you find Juventus attractive?. . . . instead of turning to Barca, Man Utd et al, Jose turned us into Juventus. . . . nay, he turned us into Greece of Euro 2004 fame, because however dour Juventus football is, they have always had a trequarista, be that Del Piero, Baggio etc. . . . can Juventus ever have a massive fan base in the world?

(3.) It doesn't matter where Boa-Morte is today. When you give youngsters a chance, some will pass and some won't. . . . for every Boa-Morte, Kabba Diawara and Aliardiere, read Vieira, Ljungberg, Anelka, Ashley Cole, Kolo Toure and all the other youngsters who were a success!

(4.) Arsenal did not start losing the moment the big guns left. Henry was there till 2007, Pires till 2006, Vieira till 2005. Arsenal stopped winning when Arsene changed the style of play, not because of departures. . . . from going from a team that counteraattacks swiftly, Arsenal started passing the ball too much and too predictably. . . . it's only natural.

(5.) The fact is that Stoch and MM got more chances than any youngster ever did under JM, with the exception of Lass and GJ who were bought already having experience. Mancienne played a couple of games at right-back and was even brought on as substitute in midfield. Lemme ask you something. . . . . have you heard of Mbark Boussafa?. . . . . he is the best player in Belgium and Marseille wanna sign him for £10m. . . . that was one of the youngsters we let go under the JM era. . . .

(6.) JM brought a winning mentality to the club, agreed. . . . shame it is a Juventus mentality and not a Barcelona mentality. . . . if you spend £200m on players, you better bring some mentality. . . . infact, I expect those players to be able to win even without mentality. . . . their skill should be good enough if you spent £200m on them. . . . . . for every Essien and Drogba, I think of all the players he turned down the chance to sign. . . . Ribery's, Torres and such. . . . whilst Essien and Drogba have performed, our present could be a lot more attractive considering the expenditure. . . . . sorry mate, JM fails the Cost-Benefit Analysis test!. . . .

(7.) The Chelsea of today have won nothing since JM left. . . . whilst they still have the never-say-die mentality, they are woefully short on skill. .  . . . infact, since Gudjohnsen, Robben and Duff left, they have been woefully short on skill. . . . even JM failed to win the prem after the aforementioned players left. . . .

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=278701.msg3963961#msg3963961 date=1243943624]Like Yu Yongding said, can any of you show us the arithmetic that favours the crazy spending going on in Washington? By the way, before you embark on that, you might want to include the trillions of dollars they still plan to spend on Universal Healthcare in the equation.[/quote]Yeah, that makes em Marxist. . . . . just like Britain and the rest of Europe!

Only Sauron who has been living under a rock for the last couple of years would put Nesta in his world 11.

FBS:
I laugh. . .honestly. You gast to be naive or just pretending. 

1. True we want to see young faces in our line up but again there is a big risk involved. We dont want to end up like Arse-anal. Best is to mix things up but that time will come. It can't happen just like that.

2. JM gave young players some playing time but you and I know that he had a special assignment. He couldn't afford the luxury of experimenting.
AW- could experiment (and still experimenting but time is running out and everyone is screaming for him to buy players) yet he knows his major assignment was to balance the books after building stadium. Or you think he is simply stingy? Pray tell me who is going to buy Gibbs for 5 million naira ?(no offence to the guy).
SAF- what can I say. he calls the shots and he is Mr Manchester United himself.

2. Davide Santone is a first team player for Inter. How old is he? 18.! JM does believe in young talents but you CANNOT build your team on young guns alone. Remember Barca won nada for the last 2 seasons and you cannot really say they are all "young"

3. Arse-anal even with their "projects" has won nada in almost 5 seasons.

True success comes naturally but spicing things up does no harm. Ask yourself, where is LFS? Why is he not the Chelsea coach/manager. We probably should have allowed things to happen "naturally".
Blimey!!! Team spirit and performance was on a decline and situation demanded urgent surgery thus GH came in and he didn't come in for free.

If LFS had remained (and going by your natural success theory), can you guess how Chelsea would have ended the campaign?

PS: The same LD is now playing for RM. Why did he leave PM?

A wise man should be able to read the signs of the times. . . .

Arsene is not failing because of youth policy per se, but because of change in style of play from a physical counter-attacking team, to a team that passes to the edge of the box a la Barcelona style. . .

Arsene has had success whilst blending youngsters into the team i.e Ashley Cole, Aliardiere, Luis Boa Morte, Ljungberg, Anelka, Eboue, Senderos, Clichy, Toure. . . . . and some would would argue a 20-year old Vieira etc.  . . . .therefore his current lack of success cannot be blamed on blending youngsters. . . . again, Wengers failure is simply down to[b] change in style of play[/b], coupled with some lack of defensive nous. . . . he inherited a strong defence from George Graham and has never been adept at buying defenders or knowing what to look for in a defender. .  . . .

And what can be said about SAF?

I knew you were gonna bring up Santon so I should have pre-empted it. . . . Santon is an exception to the rule. . . . . how about Acquafresca, one of the brightest young strikers in Italy who JM has mortgaged out to Genoa in pursuit of 29-year-old Diego Milito. . . . . Santon was a hit and miss. . . JM was not happy with Maxwell's performances and put Santos in as there was a lack of cover. . . . . Santon proved himself straightaway and is of a grown-man mentality which Jose likes. . . . Jose has not had to nurture Santon at all as Santon came ready. . . .

How about JM's treatment of Balotelli. . . . . now Balotelli is coming good, with Adriano out of the picture, but as of January, JM was almost ready to sell Balotelli stating that he cannot say that Balotelli has quality. . . .


Also, what is the difference between Gibbs debut season and Clichy and Ashley Cole's, barring the slip against Man Utd?

That squad is rubbish mehn. . . . John Arne Riise?. . . . you must be having a laugh. . . . . this squad would murder that squad. . . .



                                                       Casillas


Maicon                       Ferdinand                    Chiellini                   Cole


                                                        Mascherano

                                             Kaka                          Iniesta


                                Messi                                                   Ronaldo

                                                             Torres

mikeansy:
if the FG can't name these individuals then they should shut up for good

True. . . . . but I have a feeling it will be swept under the carpet like the Haliburton fiasco. . . . Govts reaction to this will tell us of their true intentions. . . .

Even the BBC had to tell us that IBB was involved in bunkering, as well as some top officials, but there was no investigation. . . . Naija is not serious. . .

Samuel Eto Fils is over 30 years old abeg. Lets talk about current players.

There are only two candidates - Villa and Torres.

Villa is cool, but I prefer big strikers cos they allow you to play with one upfront effectively, hence Torres is the best!

FBS:
@Ibime, were you not the same person who said give me a win (any form of win) over sexy brand of football when LFS was doing the Rumba with Chelsea?

My problem with LFS was his attitude to training and the fact that he tried to change the style of play too quickly, causing problems as the players were not used to it. . . . we must have a slow change, not by force. . . . use our resources wisely and then make sure the next generation of stars are of the skilful variety. . . .


Allow me a long lecture. . . .  


Question:

If Jose was Arsene Wenger, what would he do to Kieran Gibbs after Gibbs slip-up against Man Utd in the UCL?. . . . he would bench him, then sell him later. . . . . I know because he did the same to Glen Johnson and Lassana Diarra. . . . Glen made a few mistakes, was shipped off to Portsmouth, came back, made one more mistake and was sold for £3m. . . . Lassana Diarra made a mistake playing at right-back against Valencia in UCL quarter-final, and was benched for the rest of the season, leading him to leave in search of first team football. . . . now both GJ and LD are highly-prized assets. . . . as Kieran Gibbs will become!. . . . .success must come naturally, no be by force. . .


Q: What do all these players have in common: Ruben De La Red, Alvaro Negredo, Juan Mata, Esteban Granero, Javi Garcia, Alvaro Arbeloa, ?

They are all products of Real Madrid's cantera who at one point or other were sold to other clubs under Florentino Perez because the club didn't have patience with them. Now almost all of these are Spanish Internationals, Madrid had to buy back Javi Garcia and De La Red and are interested in buying back Negredo and Mata this summer. They are victims of the 'win-at-all-cost' mentality. . . . . IMO Madrid's cantera is better than Barcelona's cantera, yet we see players like Bojan, Busquets, Pablo et al being given a chance at Barca. . . . do you think Bojan would not have been sold if he was at Real Madrid?

This is the same reason why all of us want to see Di Santo, Mancienne, Stoch et al given a chance. . . . it is pertinent to note that GH gave Mancienne a few minutes here and there even when Alex and Ivanovic were fit. . . . . GH is thinking about the future!. . . . Do you think Fletcher deserves to still be at Man Utd given his performances in previous years?. . . . what are Wellbeck, Possibon, Rafael, Fabio, Macheda, Ben Amos, Darron Gibson etc doing in a squad as packed (and competitive) as Man Utd. . . . . can we see that at Chelsea? . . . . when the team's focus is on attack, it is easy to blend young players. . . . when the focus is on defence, there is no space for young players as any mistake can be fatal when you are dealing with one-goal margins. . . . for the same reason, Benitez has not produced one youth player in 5 years at Liverpool. . . . cos his focus is on defence, not attack. . . . . again, success no be by force, it must come naturally. . . .

somze:
Ibime,

As usual you are long on words and short on understanding

1. Achievements are measured by trophies, nothing more nothing less. Not by players, or style or even profits . . . dude football is all about winning PERIOD!!! For example Arsenal has been profitable the last few seasons but short on trophies and hence unsuccessful.

2. I have always supported and respected Guus.

3. JM left us the team we have today including the defense, mentality, determination and spirit.

4. Why are you head over heels about JM's pay package sef? Na you dey pay am? See me see trouble o. Sharrap dia jare. How much did Guus earn in his short stint. You JM hater

Jose's style of victory is a pyrrhic victory. . . . we win the battle but lose the long-term war. . . . trust me!. . . . it's not worth it. . .

The legacy AW is building at Arsenal will win them things in the future, even without spending any money. . . . Jose's style is not self-sustaining, it's too capital-intensive; with a high turnover of players. . . . Jose signs player, doesn't like him, eats his confidence, sells him the next season, then demands more money from RA to propagate success. . . . can Jose survive on £5m net spend a year like Arsene Wenger?. . . . 20 years from now, players will want to come to Arsenal because they respect the football. . . . if Chelsea & Arsenal both bid for a skilful player, the player would choose Arsenal, all things being equal (wages etc). . . . its the same with Barca and Madrid. . . . Barca is self-sustaining, Madrid have to sell their training ground just to compete, like Florentino Perez did in the Galacticos era. . . . . I am just reminded of Ronaldinho's words when RA wanted to sign him in 2005. . . . he said "I can never go to a club that play that kind of football". . . . forget it!


BTW, you did diss GH! Don't make pull up the archives on you!  

eldee:
I wanna be remembered long after u breathe
Long after I'm gone long after I breathe
I leave all I am in the hands of history
That’s my last will testimony
This is much more than a song its a baby shower
I been waiting for this hour history ur ours

Whats so special about these lines?. . . . my friend, stop Jocking Jay-Z. . . . Jigga has officially lost it. . . .ever since that American Gangster nonsense. . . . he better come hard this time. . .

Nigger Area

Old man, e be like say you don marra!

What does Fed's decision to buy bad assets (made under George Bush) have to do with Obamas alleged march toward Marxism?

Your fundamental education is missing. Even staunch Conservatives like 4Play favour the bad bank approach. Govt intervention in the markets is not a new thing. Was FDR a marxist for introducing New Deal and such?

Everytime I enter a plane, I have this recurring fear of the plane dropping out the sky and the helplessness you feel when you experience weightlessness. Mehn, Im really sorry for those guys. Apparently, the area of the Atlantic where the plane is suspected to have gone down is 14,000 ft deep, so the hopes of finding them are slim.

FBS:
JM remains Chelsea's best manager till date. . .take it or leave it.

Compared to who? Vialli and Gullit them?

Abeg Chelsea has changed, from 2003 onwards. Comparing to our past is no longer adequate. JM must be compared to whoever it is that our money can buy.

Besides, GH is our best manager to date, if only for 6 months.

JM is not a manager, he is merely a coach. A manager worries about the bottom-line, the future of the club and it's finances. Manager and coach no be the same thing! Someone tell me why Maicon and Ibrahimovic are angling for a move (ie requesting better pay) just one-year after signing new contracts. . . . .obviously, their manager has shown them that it's a free-for-all. . . . thats not a manager, thats a coach!

You guys can forget about Hangeland. . . . he is happy playing Europa league with Fulham and Roy Hodgson showed a lot of faith in him. . . . it will take £12m to get him and AW will baulk at that. . . . .it is more likely that Sebastian Bassong will join the Arses. . .


@ HNIC, this your quiz long sef. Lemme see if I can get it in before work pile up. . .

HNIC:
Take this EPL season ending quiz and check out later what you scored. . . . _{no googling}

1) Liverpool, Arsenal and which other team beat Man United in the Premier League?

2) Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt, who's the next name in the list of Liverpool's top scorers this season?

3) Who were the only non-Big Four side to beat Chelsea in the Premier League?

4) Arsenal used a massive 27 players in the Premier League. Five were English. Can you name four?

5) Two Everton players scored eight league goals this season. Who are they?

6) Aston Villa have not beaten a top-half side since December. Who did they beat?

7) Who was the last Fulham player to reach double figures in league goals back in 2006/07?

Who has ended the season as Tottenham's leading league scorer?

9) Who are the two West Ham players in England's Under-21 suad for the European Championship?

10) Who was named Manchester City Young Player Of The Year?

11) Who scored all of Wigan's last three goals of the season?

12) Which two teams did Stoke beat away from the Britannia Stadium?

13) Who was the only player signed by Bolton in January?

14) Who hit Portsmouth for six back in September?

15) What is the name of Paul Robinson's understudy at Blackburn?

16) Djibril Cisse and Kenwyne Jones topped the Sunderland scoring charts with ten goals each. Who came next in the list with a massive four?

17) Hull have beaten two teams since October. Who are they?

18) What is the name of the Spanish striker who played a grand total of five league games for Newcastle this season for his reported £50,000 per week?

19) Who were Middlesbrough's trio of £3m-plus signings last summer?

20) Who finished the season as the Baggies' top scorer?

1. Fulham
2. Benayoun
3. Spurs
4. Gibbs, Walcott, Gavin Hoyte, that young winger, and fox knows the last one.
5. Fellaini & Cahill
6. Arsenal
7. Brian McBride
8. Darren Bent by far.
9. I am guessing Junior Stanislas (He's very good!) and James Tomkins.
10. Has to be Sturridge
11. Rodaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallega!
12. Can't remember
13. Mark Davies from Wolves for £1m and he impressed.
14. Can't remember. Could be Man City.
15. One black goalie who did very well when called upon.
16. Either Richardson, Malbranque or Leadbitter.
17. Can't remember
18. Xisco (He's not that bad)
19. Didier Digard, Justin Hoyte and . . . . can't remember!
20. Gasto be Ishmael Miller, Chris Brunt or James Morrison.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=278701.msg3960102#msg3960102 date=1243876313]@Ibime,

Do you know how to read? The warning was handed down to Blair and Obama by no other than Prime Minister Putin. You think he listens to Rush Limbaugh too?

I thought an intelligent person will adress the issues the guy mentioned. But as usual, it is an attack on personalities with a view to suppressing dissent and debate.

You are the one that needs to grow up![/quote]First of all, your source is not credible. . . .

Second of all, Russia now practice the extreme form of capitalism with wealth concentrated at the very top. . . . how he can claim that the "redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. ". . . . . . what is he trying to say. . . . that American "oligarchs" have a socialist agenda?. . . . this guy is nuts!

Third of all, Putin told Obama and Blair? Last time I checked, Gordon Brown was PM and Blair is gallavanting around the middle-east. . . .

Fourth of all, the deluded writer quotes thus: "Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our "wise" Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride.". . . . .  . so is he claiming the West sponsored Marxism?. . . . . and Lenin and Stalin were complicit in the Western conspiracy? . . . these guy is nothing but a bitter twisted Russian Nationalist looking to take a pop at Yankee. . . .

Fifth of all, I cannot take the writer serious with comments like this: "Senator Barney Franks, a social pervert basking in his homosexuality (of course, amongst the modern, enlightened American societal norm, as well as that of the general West, homosexuality is not only not a looked down upon life choice, but is often praised as a virtue)" . . . . . . . trust Tayo-D to scrape the bottom of the barrell and quote any psycho just to take a cheap shot at Obama. . . .

Tayo, when will you grow up?

Nonsense man!

Even conspiracy theorists would laugh at your link between Obama and Marxism. You need to unglue your ear from Rush Limbaugh's radio show.

somze:
None of those were 30, Malouda is now an incontrovertible success, Ferreira played his part and the others are debatable.

Please, I only talk about managers of Chelsea, not mercenaries like JM. . . . a man who threatens both InterMilan and Chelsea just one-year into his contract, unless they give him a pay-rise. . . . are those the actions of a man who has the future of the club at heart?. . . .

. . . if JM is a special one, then Guardiola must be the golden child  . . . . . whilst JM prefers to buy the Malouda's (who is not an incontrovertible success, not even close) and spurn the more skilful Ribery's, Chelsea's brand of football will always be reviled. . . .

JM can never be dear to me just like George Graham can never be dear to Arsenal fans who would prefer a trophyless Wenger to a winning Graham. . . . .JM laid no foundation for the club and built no legacy. . . . the only legacy he left is that skilful players will not want to come to Chelsea and fans of beautiful football will never follow Chelsea. . . . and of course, he left our ruptured relationship with UEFA and the football public in general. . . . Chelsea can never be a big club whilst we follow the JM philosophy. . . .

Great managers have built great football cultures. . . .Johann Cruyff invented Barcelona's current style of play. . . . he got it from Rinus Michel who transformed Ajax and Holland to their current identity. . . . AW has created a culture at Arsenal that young skilful players and Arsenal fans aspire to. . . . Arsene can leave today, and Arsenal will play the same way for the next 20 years. . . . SAF has created an identity at Man Utd which is attractive to any player or fan. . . . these are all great managers. . . .

What exactly has Jose left for Chelsea except burning through a few hundred million pounds for short term success? 

Why don't you call Guus Hiddink's name when comparing someone to JM? It is only useless Scolari that you juxtapose Jose against? . . . What did I tell you 18 months ago when you were blabbing about "since JM left, we have won nothing". . . . I said "if we have a manager like Guus Hiddink, you will forget about JM completely". . . . after that, you started hating on Guus Hiddink, coming here to tell us after Russia lost to Spain at the Euro's that "Guus Hiddink is nothing special" 


JM = Short term gain, long term pain! 

somze:
While Ibime continue to rant against JM,

RA bought Ballack and Shevy
Scolari bought Deco
Ancelloti will buy Pirlo and possibly swap Essien in the deal

Stop being pernicious. . . . I rant against whomever I like whether thats JM, Scolari or Ancelotti. . . . JM bought Ferreira, SWP, Malouda, Del Hot etc. . . . .whats your point?

MrCrackles:
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Not a lot i must confess!

No need to confess. . . . . we already know that you know not a lot about anything in particular.