₦airaland Forum

bawomolo:
i doubt a lot of nigerians enjoyed the heavy taxation under the british empire

Yes - and they enjoy the zero taxation now - so that they can die on potholed roads and not get free treatment at the hospital, dying from yeye diseases that can easily be treated whereas Teaching Hospitals used to treat them for free back then. I am sure they also enjoy paying zero tax so that underpaid Policemen can harass them everyday. You don come O!

My elders never talked about tax when they spoke about colonial times. The issue of taxation is not new to Nigerian tribes. Tribes have collected tax for social projects, schools, hospitals, markets etc for a long time. Infact they actively supported such taxes so that their community could be improved. I could give you a history lesson of how the Church in my village was built - by village tax. Nigerians are giving, not greedy.

The reason it is banned is because corrupt leaders use it to pacify the people.

I wonder if it is banned in strip clubs

All this talk - how much did Bush spend on the Iraq war? Was that not big spending? Except that he didn't spend it on the people.

Of course business owners are worried about taxation and I fully understand that - but as a black man, the issue of Obama is a more fundamental one. Any black man would like his kids to see Obama as president. It gives them the feeling of "If he can, so can I".

Who is this Kudlow guy anyway? Who told him Norway and Sweden are failing? Their people are over there eating good cheese, drinking good wine and lending money to the big investment banks - they are definitely living better than Americans. Some of these Republicans love to use scare tactics too much.

4Him:
how?

A lot of Nigerians did. I know my grandmother did. I also know her brother didn't - he was more politically minded. Anyway, yes, a lot of Nigerians did cos there was no instability (except 1945). They could go out and come home in peace and food was on the table.

You cannot apologise for something that is not fixed yet. Until the mish-mash that is Naija is seperated into seperate viable states, then they can apologise.

I also believe they should have either seperated us into a proper nation or they should have stayed a llittle longer till we learn to live together. To be honest, I don't think we even have to seperate into small states, I think Yoruba's, Ibo's and all the other tribes could live together under one nation. It is just the Fulani (and I say Fulani because the Hausa are governed by them) that need to be seperated from us.

tommyex:
He will be there 4 d interim
Until Sia2 is ready and done with d onlympics qualifiers i guess

By then, it might be too late

Kobojunkie:
I have been to south africa and I can not blame the whites for the situation with the blacks in South Africa. The majority of the blame remains on the blacks as it does the rest of Africa.

Ehe - dis buffoon done come again.

bawomolo:
i'm a liberal u idiot

Sorry? Please repeat that again. LMAO!

bawomolo:
well i ask u to explain the social health care system in turkey, spain and a few other countries. u are obviously biased in your opinion

Yes Turkey is really DEVELOPED. Even Spain sef doesn't count - as a Country that was still under dictatorship barely 30+ years ago. I have not researched it, but sure enough, they will coming into line with EU standards soon enough. Why didn't you mention countries like Britain, France, Japan, Germany, Scandinavia etc?

bawomolo:
the universal healthcare system in canada has varying success depending on region. people in poor canadian regions don't benefit much from universal healthcare.

Who fed you this lie?

bawomolo:
are u willing to pay 50%tax, yes or no??

No I am not. Please show me the financial model that says Americans need to pay 50% tax to get social healthcare.

bawomolo:
no they are not stupid, their government is tiny and centralized enough to handle such responsibilities.

Yes - just like Yankee is tiny and Centralised enough to have social education (well at least up to High School level) - And just like China was tiny enough to have social healthcare. What is your blooming point? - And please don't retort with something slick about China. I am no fan of Chairman Mao.

bawomolo:
85% of taxes is paid by the top 25% of the country. the so-called greedy people are the one paying for the social programs

Just goes to show the gap between rich and poor in Yankee.

bawomolo:
http://www.ntu.org/main/page.php?PageID=6
your masters degree is a waste

No it wasn't - I'm an Algorithm Engineer.

bawomolo:
can u please read a book and shut the mess up. have u heard of the subsidies cuba got from the soviet union and venezuela. cuba still get's money by selling vaccines to other countries. the problem of cuba is domestic and not the embargo.

Man must whack! If you stop my food over here, I will go somewhere else to eat. Now you go and read about the United Fruit Company and the real reason Castro overthrew Batista. Then later, you tell me which Latin American country is doing well under Yankee's guidance. You act like there is an example there for Cuba to follow. And please don't mention Bermuda and Bahamas with all their tax exiles.

Please don't bother replying. I have things to do.

^^^^Like I said before, your opinion doesn't even count! - Your flawed logic that the Blacks were somehow culpable for the Whites feeding them urine just showed what an apologist you are - instead of concentrating on the criminals, you rounded on the victims of the crime. Yes, your point was somewhat valid - but compared to the real crux of the issue, it just showed the way you reason - that you are a self loathing gay and a White apologist!

Kobojunkie:
Are you even serious With this post alone you come off as a seriously uneducated person cause you seem not to know what the heck you are talking of. What has education to do with capitalism?? How do you relate education to capitalism??

Yeah I'm seriously uneducated - I must have wasted my time doing that Masters degree in Applied Mathematics. Educated people should have more conscience than you show. Thats why you are an educated mumu. As for you, you even defend white South Africans who feed urine to Blacks so your opinion doesn't even count - we all know who you are and what you are about.

As for Bamowolo, I don tire for you. You are an aetheist, right wing, Neo-Con fundamentalist. Hmmm - Identity Crisis don carry new name!

And Yes - Yankee IS THE ONLY DEVELOPED country without social health care. If you can afford to go to war all the time, I am sure you can afford to have social health care. Even the government subsidies for healthcare allow drug companies to charge HUMUNGOUS amounts for drugs which bare no reality to the dynamics of supply and demand. Not to mention that half your senate and even your President get paid millions of dollars to lobby for their causes. Even Hillary Clinton who opposed Private health is now in their pockets. GREED! The Canadians next to you who have social health care, are they stupid?

Also, why not raise taxes? I don't see Scandinavians complaining about their higher taxes. Abi, are they stupid ?You hold on to this idea of low taxes like it is some sort of religious mantra. Are you a Republican? If you don't like it, why not move to Monaco where you pay zero taxes. Abi is it too elitist for you - or maybe you don't have enough money to live there. People like Bill Gates and Sage of Omaha are giving away all their money to charity, yet paupers like you who don't have two pennies to rub together are complaining about taxes. Wealth is supposed to be a vehicle with which to help people - yet greedy elitists like you seem to miss the point.

As for Cubans wallowing in poverty, since you always bring up this argument, why doesn't your country lift their blockade so Cubans can truly have FREE trade. You blockade their country, then you blame Castro for them living in poverty. Their poverty sef is the same as other Caribbean and Latin American countries - despite the blockade!

Kobojunkie:
But wait, they were NOT FORCED TO EAT THE STEW, They could have said NO, and not eaten the stew. I mean Whites do these to other whites in other areas. I think we should step off the racial cliff here and focus more on what really happened and why it happened and how.

Oh shut up, you stupid apologist - either you are suggesting that the Black people had no dignity (which you are) - instead of focusing on the crime commited. There is no victim of crime who is a willing victim. If the Black people were tricked, then your point is defeated because they did not know so they had no cause to refuse the stew. If they knew the food was polluted, do you know the circumstances that made them eat it still? Do you know if the Black people would not get fired or something worse if they did not eat the stew?

Self hating idiots disgust me!

bawomolo:
there are 300million Americans and much lesser amount of Cubans, of course it would be easier to educate cubans. why don't we compare the elite with the elite?? what makes u think cubans have achieved racial equality. are u this blinded by rhetoric??

Why are you always concerned with elite? You are elitist - this is the problem with NeoCons. You want to forget about the poor, creating an imbalanced society, then you wonder why there is so much crime. The word "SOCIETY" is exactly that - society - not us and them! Louis IV got his head chopped off for shit like that.   

BTW, Your own argument defeats itself because you said America have a much larger population - so based on simple probability, the American elite should be much smarter than the Cuban elite. Not to mention the World Class research facilities and military facilities they have.

You must obviously think you are elite - you forget the basic principles that Jesus taught - hehe, the funny thing is that i bet you are a Christian too - an African, right wing, redneck, Christian fundamentalist. Talk of identity crisis!

BTW, I went to Yankee and people were asking me if we had cars in Africa and if i saw lions everyday. Ask the stupidest Cuban about Africa and he would be more respectful. I know which I prefer.

bawomolo:
as if communism hasn't left some people behind in places like cuba or vietnam. i think u need the research the former soviet republics of eastern europe. they are worse off than the capitalist nations of western Europe. communism is backwards in practice.

Left who behind? Every Cuban boy is educated and his healthcare is free. Under Batista, they died like flies. - As for Vietnam, did you hear me say anything about them? Did I tell you I'm a communist? If you start a thread about the drawbacks of Communism, then you will see my views on the subject. Life is not Black and White - there is room for Capitalists to have social values, unlike some of these morons coming here saying they are happy with Yankee's health system - when Yankee is the only developed country in the world that doesn't have social healthcare.

You seem to forget that Africans naturally have social and Christian values. We take care of our elderly and sick and our neighbours and distant relatives turn to us in time of need unlike Caucasians. You have obviously lost your identity.

Come to countries like Norway and see how Socio-Capitalism is run in full effect. Thats why their Sovereign funds are propping up all the big investment banks right now.

You disgust me - don't ever put your head where I am talking again with your self loathing and self hating views.

Hehehe - I no fit laugh. Please Area Boys should do us a favour and ransack the Glass House killing everyone inside. Bloody Vampires.

Nightrider, well said -

Keshi is a corrupt coach. He introduced Mafia culture into Super Eagles. We all saw what happened between him and Adebayor when he was coach of Togo. Also he has admitted that the players deliberately ganged up on Yekini during USA '94 and refused to pass to him. What kind of leader is that?

As for Amokachi, he is just a joke. We all remember the private plane fiasco. Such a man is not capable of coaching Naija.

SiaSia has proved himself to be a steady coach with the Under 20 and Under 23 teams. He even paid out of his own pocket for a specialist fitness coach to train the team during the WYC in Holland. I think he is the outstanding candidate.

Oliseh is intelligent and well articulated and is also currently coaching in Belgium. He is also not scared of big names and he captained his country well as a player. He is tactically astute as we know from his days playing defensive midfield. However, it will be a big gamble to appoint him. Maybe he should start with the Under 20 and Olympic teams first.

Avram Grant is scared of changing tactics halfway through a game because he is scared of substituting players - basically the players are bigger than him. It was obvious during the Tottenham game that Drogba should have come off, Anelka should have pushed forward and Joe Cole should have come on the left. The fact is Drogba lacked the pace or fitness to penetrate behind Tottenham and the Tottenham defenders were clearing up anything played to him. I don't think Drogba is fully fit. We saw as much during the Nations Cup.

Also he should have brought Lampard off for Ballack because we needed somebody to keep the ball in midfield to ease the pressure and Lampard kept giving the ball away.

Finally, on principle alone he should never have changed the team that won 9 games in a row. Returning players should have had to wait their turn. It sends a bad message to the players that some players can expect to just walk into the team whenever they wish. Since he changed the team against Portsmouth, we have not won any game except Huddersfield. The same team that won 9 games in a row comfortably beat Tottenham 2-0 at the Bridge.

Don't mind Trevor Phillips - everybody in the UK knows this guy is a buffoon.

If Capitalism comes to Cuba now, they will do very well because they are all educated thanks to Castro. In terms of human resources, even the lowest class Cuban is better educated that 30% of Americans. Even the poor black boys who would have otherwise been marginalised under Batista are now highly educated.

I believe democracy comes in different forms. Sometimes you have to get the whole country educated and organised before you bring Capitalism to them because as we all know Capitalism tends to leave people behind, mostly the poor and uneducated.

Is he related to that idiot Arthur Nzeribe?

BlackMamba:

Really?
I just didn't tap soccer but ate soccer in Naija. Growing up in my village, I easily forego the mandatory evening catchism and benediction to catch up with my daily soccer fix on Sundays. Of course lashes of my dad's whip always await me at home. The lack of quality soccer in the US helped me recover from soccermania and discover that there is equal excitement in American football, Baseball, Basketball or any other sports for that matter. All it takes is to know the rules and root for a team or player. Now, I cannot choose any soccer game over the Yankees, Jets or Knicks in that order. Maybe the Super Eagles or Enugu Rangers.

I even watch Ice Hockey (sometimes)

Eh - that is good for you. At least you tapped soccer, so you don't disrespect it. As per say there is no good soccer in Yankee, no problem with you following another sport.

The problem is these other Yankee idiots who never tapped soccer coming here to denigrate soccer - on a Nigerian forum!

bawomolo:
can u list the social welfare programs and organization of your political wing?? why do u spend most money on weapons rather than support the welfare of niger delta people. was ken saro wiwa buying ak-47's

You answer your own question! Was Ken Saro-Wiwa buying AK-47's? Was Gerry Adams buying AK-47's for IRA? Was I there? How am I supposed to know? All I know is Saro-Wiwa was using political means to tell the world about the Ogoni's plight. I don't know about AK-47's. When the Nigerian soldiers came to mow down entire villages, did they face any resistance from AK-47's? What about when they wiped out the town of Odi?

Political wing supports military wing and vice-versa. They just don't affirm their co-operation to the wider world so your argument is irrelevant.

Why should I list social welfare programs? I have given you the name of our political organisation. Why don't you research it yourself? As far as I am aware, with the meagre resources we have, we are trying to enlighten the wider world to our plight. As for social programs, what is Naija government doing?

bawomolo:
in other words they harbour terrorists rather than deal with the real issues affecting niger delta people. as i suspected, MEND is more concerned with oil revenue for itself rather than liberation.

As you suspect - oh boy, don't tell us your suspicions, just state facts. Everyone in Naija Delta is oil bunkering, even civilians. Oil revenue goes to buy guns as far as MEND is concerned. I don't know what all these other groups are doing. The real issue affecting Naija Delta is that we are starving, water is polluted, disease etc - so we no longer recognise Naija so all this nonsense you are talking about us stealing from Naija does not even register in our head. Naija has been stealing from us for decades. Naija is supposed to be a federation of states, not a unitary system of government. We are only required to pay oil levy to Naija, not give them the whole money. Did Kano ever give Naija their groundnut money in the 60's? Even the money we give them sef, they don't use it to help us. Hausa man with no education always running NNPC giving jobs to his fellow uneducate Hausa man. We who own the oil can't get job. Our fishermen can't fish because water is polluted. In short, make I no talk too much - you know what it is. 

bawomolo:
the last time i checked spain and a few european countries have not supported kosovo yet. why do u expect european countries to intervene in the domestic affairs of SOVEREIGN countries. countries like france and portugal gave support to biafra and that went nowhere. the balkans self-destructed, western nations didn't do that. it's stupid to call for fragmentation of african countries as if that would change the mentality of african leaders.

Spain and a few - what of the rest? Don't Yankee and Britain and the majority of EU support it? Of course, Spain doesn't support it, they have their own internal issues.

bawomolo:
the balkans self-destructed, western nations didn't do that. it's stupid to call for fragmentation of african countries as if that would change the mentality of african leaders.

Czechoslovakia was a peaceful disentegration.

Biafra was not - and still Yankee didn't support it. What is the difference between Biafra and the Balkans? In fact the reason we have not fought over breaking Naija up is because of the example of Biafra. How different is Biafra from the Bosnian situation? It is not different at all. So your point is not valid. The fact is that Yankee must keep African man disunited.

Finally, if MEND is a terrorist organisation, where are all the foreigners we have killed? We only kill Naija soldiers and kidnap foreign oil workers so we can exchange them for money and buy more guns.

Anyway, I don tire for you. You be educated mumu. As Fela, said, you be follow-follow, except that you only follow Fox News and Neo-con propaganda. By the way, do not think I do not know where you are coming from. I wear a suit and work in finance and watch CNBC and Bloomberg everyday so don't think i am a ragtag rebel. I just choose not to lose my identity in the process - like you!

deedami:
because it is not played in Nigeria, does not make we that play it NON-Nigerian.

Oh - so now you admit that it is not played in Naija. I thought you said it was. Make your mind up!

You can do what you want when you reach Yankee. You can learn American football over there. Just don't come here and force it on us like it is superior to our National game. All I know is that nobody who tapped soccer in Naija goes to Yankee and then learns American Football. Only the rich kids whose mummy's didn't allow them outside to play with common Nigerians.

bawomolo:
what non-millitant programs does MEND have for them not to be considered a terror group?? a group that engages in kidnappings or oil bunkering is a terrorist group.

Abeg comot for here! You be coconut. Fecking miseducated neo-con! Taking our own oil is what you call oil bunkering. And who told you we don't have a political wing? We live in a militant country and you are talking of political wing? Naija politics is militancy! Abi how do all these thugs win elections? Ken Saro-Wiwa tried politics - look at what they did to him. They hung him for the sins of Ogoni Youth militant wing - although he was MOSSOP, the political wing. Even if you are part of the political wing, stupid Naija government will still treat you like a terrorist. Anyway, check out NPDVF or NPDSV. The people ARE the political wing. Thats why they hide our boys in their villages when they are carrying out their guerilla operations.

bawomolo:
why should the west support the fragmentation of countries

Yeah - just like they supported the fragmentation of the Balkans, the Velvet revolution and the new state of Kosovo - because they want Peace & Prosperity in their lands - and division in ours. The only fragmentation they do not support in Europe are the Catalonia, Galician and Andalucian states because the people there are living happily anyway and there is no real will to break off on their part. Have you finished eating your masters shit yet?

Bamowolo, you seem to be a US apologist. Look, I am a staunch capitalist as well but I believe that all systems have their merits. To Yankee, it seems that Capitalism = Greed. Don't tell us about Yankee run the perfect society while people are dying because their Health Insurance company wouldn't pay for their treatment. At least in Cuba they all have free health care. I think that Yankee criticising Cuba is akin to to the pot calling the kettle black. They are both at unhealthy extremes while they should be in the middle like Europe is where we have free health-care, schooling up to Grad and sometimes post-grad level (especially in Scandinavia). 

If Yankee take some of Cuba's ideas, they can have the perfect society and vice-versa. After all, all the other Latin American states who fully embrace Yankee's ideas, are they still not suffering? - even without blockade which Cuba has.

As for free and fair elections - are Yankee's elections worth a penny? It doesn't matter which candidate they get, life is still the same for Mr Average - Yankees elections fully depend on who can raise the most money - after all, John Edwards was the real candidate for change in the Democrat primaries - but where is he now? He didn't have enough sponsors because he was more interested in helping the average man, not big business. The only difference in choosing candidates in Yankee election is that the Republicans will go to war and the democrats won't. Apart from that, everything remains the same for the average man.

bawomolo:
yes MEND is a terrorist group.

Everyone is a terrorist group to you. Do not confuse M.E.N.D with all these other bandit groups running around in Niger Delta using the Ijaw cause as an excuse for profiteering. To us, M.E.N.D are heores. 

Yes, I know Kurds are not musli m. It was a rhetorical question since most people associate terrorism with Islami c fundamentalism. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion on whether you think PKK is a terrorist group or not. It doesn't really concern me - my general argument is that Yankee and Europe do not support the break up of countries anywhere except Europe. They allowed the Balkans to break up but they force us to live together - and when we want to break free, they supply arms to the forces trying to keep us together. Then they label some groups as terrorists or whatever as part of their propaganda. Why is it that they do not like instability in their lands but they seemingly promote instability in our lands by making us live together even when we don't wish to. I believe in a United Africa but first we must end the Colonial experiment of putting disparate Nations such as Hausa and Ibo in the same country together - divide and rule is still killing us.

deedami:
Ibime. . . wherever u got your facts from
u said NO nigerian plays football, one of the most ignorant statements EVER

OK, you tell me where Nigerians play American football - in Nigeria! In Aguda? or Festac? Or Warfi? or Aba or Owerri or PH? Where? - just say that you and your brother practiced it at home in Victoria Island after watching it on TV - don't tell us that it is played in Naija.  The only American football we played in Naija is the one where if somebody gives you 'opio' (i.e if someone puts the ball through your legs or nutmegs you), you will get beaten by everybody until you touch a tree. Soccer is the game of the people my brother. Everywhere in the world, from Latin America to Africa, Asia, Europe etc, Soccer is not only number one, but it TOTALLY dominates all other sports.

BTW, I watched the Superbowl last time - man I could not believe how BOOOOORING that game is. Every two seconds, the referee blows the whistle and there is no fluidity in the game. O-boy, I fell asleep quickly.

American football requires no skill except for the quarterback position. You can start playing at 18 and still become professional as long as you are big and fast. One guy in my sisters school in FGC PH went to Yankee after GCE having never played American football in his life - a few years later he was in the NFL! Look, if its brute strength or sheer athleticism I want to see, then I will watch wrestling or track and field, not American football.

To be a footballer (soccer) player, you cannot start playing football at the age of 10 sef. You have to be playing from the age of 3, 4 or 5. You hone your skill for a good 15 years before you even smell professional soccer.

All these Yankee Nigerians should hand back their Nigerian passport sef.

The PKK are terrorists in whose eyes? - The same way the British Foreign Office released press statements saying Biafra was a bunch or ragtag militants with no support from their people and they would be defeated in one week. Soon they are going to say M.E.N.D is a terrorist group as well, then Odudua. I have a lot of Kurdish friends and they all support PKK - so whether Yankee recognises pershmerga or not, the PKK is the people's choice. The people decide who their freedom fighters are, not Yankee. Apparently, Mandela was also a terrorist.

As for TexasPete - or whatever your name is - Maybe your real name is LagosGbenga - but I can see that you are totally Americanised. Anyway, It was widely reported in the press that Turkey is defending its right afforded it by the UN - and implied that it is doing so with Yankees blessing - I no go waste my time look for am for you. Make you go find am yourself. Any mumu knows that if it was not with Yankees blessing they would not be there because Yankee administer Iraq. By the way, American missiles have been in Turkey since the Cold War and Turkey is a strategic ally of Yankee. Of course Yankee is going to say PKK is a terrorist group. Are Kurds musli m ? -are they fighting for religious or nationalistic causes?

Akolawole:
Could this Sun's TORY be true?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article845983.ece

It is true oh, my brother - it is all over Sky Sports news.

In summary,

John Terry and Ten Cate had a fight because Terry asked them to name the team and Ten Cate told him to mind his business. Abramovic witnessed the fight.

Ashley Cole found out he was dropped from the newspaper and confronted Grant about it, Grant confirmed he was dropped and Ashley Cole stormed out refusing to attend the team meeting before the game.

Players are complaining that Steve Clarke does all the training while Grant just stands and watches like an ode. We all saw it in the Carling Cup final where Clarke was doing all the team-talk before extra-time and Grant was looking like an oaf.

The players are unhappy that the team was announced only 2 hours to kick-off and that they didn't even practice for the game because they didn't know the first 11. they also say 2 hours is not enough to perpare yourself mentally for a game. Apparently Mourinho named the team and practiced with them 5 days before a match when he was manager.

Ballack, Makelele, Malouda and Ashley Cole are extremely unhappy with Grant for dropping them and there is serious tension in the dressing room. The same Ashley Cole was dropped from both finals by Mourinho last year and he didn't make a sound. It just goes to show that the players know that Grant is a weakling.

Look, like I said before, Grant is a spineless weakling. We never saw this kind of problem with player revolt when Mourinho was manager. Face the facts, Grant is not strong enough to coach Chelsea.

texazzpete:
So the frantic attempts by the Bush administration to dissuade the turkish millitary from invading Iraqi territory were lost on you abi?
The furore surrounding this action had been on the news for quite a while. How could you miss it?

it figures, sha. armchair critics like yourself speak out of ignorance 99% of the time.

Which furore over invading Iraq? Was it the Bush administration that were trying to dissuade Turkey?- Or the press?

Those are two different things - did George Bush or Condo Rice come out and say they did not want Turkey to invade Iraq? or was it pundits on CBN or ABC news? Abeg stop talking nonsense.

The Bush administration have stressed that Turkey have a right to flush out Kurdish militants from Iraq as part of the right afforded countries by the UN charter to defend themselves.

You really think Turkey can step foot in Iraq without Yankee's permission? - you must be an idiot then!

Sharetroll, since you have turned fully American, just stay over there with your Yankee brothers - don't bother using Nairaland again.

You are not even talking basketball - at least some Nigerians play basketball. But NO Nigerian plays American football or whatever you call it.

Stupid Yankee!

Eh - well done to him - Nouveau riche always boast about how much money they have.