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How una dey? Long time.

Just to jump in on some conversations you guys are having - we have to wait and see which manager we get this summer before we start talking about players for next season. As we all know, Roman is a scattergun and he can buy any and anyone unexpectedly - even players you never even expected.

You can expect Drogba to leave - the club have already agreed that Drogba will leave this summer and Drogba has agreed with the club that he will not mention his desire to leave to the press until the season is over. So, we can assume that Drogba is leaving.

His replacement may come from one of the following: Amauri, Balotelli, Mario Gomez or Jozy Altidore - these are the names being muted but only Roman knows his own mind - and maybe the new manager might have a say.

Lampard is more than likely to leave as the club are not interested in discussing a new contract with him on the terms he is proposing. Lamps acted like a typical footballer by asking for new contract after scoring 4 against Derby - he did not ask for new contract after any of the numerous games he did not play well in - Chelsea are not going to fall for it this time.

Maka already had a contract to 2009 anyway and a one year extension is well deserved. I believe he still has the intelligence to play 2 more years. Talk of Mikel elbowing him out of the side is premature because like 7-Up the difference is clear.

What is all this wahala? I leave the site for 4 days and come back to find Man Utd fans invading our turf with all sorts of argument.

Who said Mikel was a flop - he is not! Have you been to the bridge? The fans absolutely love him because they know he dictates the tempo of the game. And yes, he DID control the midfield against Man Utd in the FA cup final. Please don't even compare Carrick to Mikel. The only midfielders worth comparing to Mikel from Man Utd are Anderson and Scholes.


All these Man Utd fans should stop making mouth - the fact is, Man Utd are a one-man team. If you take Ronaldo away from Man Utd, they will undoubtedly lose the title.

4 Play:
The more you post,the more you contradict yourself.You just said Baggio and Del Piero "scored a lot of goals" and yet,you were knocking Totti's goal scoring ability. Totti has a goals ratio of 0.41 for Roma in Serie A,unremarkable until you find that Del Piero's ratio for Juve is also 0.41,Baggio's club ratio is 0.45(the differrence is minimal).

So how come Baggio and Del Piero have "scored a lot of goals" but Totti "did not even trouble the goalscoring charts" as you put it.This is the European Golden Boot winner we are talking of here.

This is where you make your mistake - Baggio and Del Piero have played into their thirties - naturally, their goal ratio will decline. Take Baggio and Del Piero's goal ratio at Totti's age - and you will see it is a lot better. Infact, Del Piero has not been the same since his father died so you have to take his goal ratio from the age of like 26.

The fact is that you are here comparing Totti to Zidane. I am saying that historically, Totti will not be remembered as being as great as Del Piero or Baggio (maybe even Zola), much less Zidane, who is in the top ten of all time, regardless of who you ask. This proves that you have overrated Totti.

By the way, why hasn't he ever done anything in UEFA Cup either? He is a flop at all levels except Serie A. He flopped at Euro 2000, WC 2002, Euro 2004, WC 2006, Champions league and UEFA Cup for the last 10 years - He plays for Italy, a great team and he flops. He play for Roma, an average-good team and he flops - what more excuse does he have?

nateevs:
wait sef?. . . where's Ibime?

I am here Oh! I was at the match - Good comeback from the boys - it was dissapointing to hear Chelsea fans calling Mourinho's name after the substitutions - Good comeback from Drogba - he has not been this hungry since he reached 25 goals last season. Finally, he has started working hard again.

I am dissapointed with the set-pieces. Just before the corner was taken, I mentioned to my mate that we didn't have a man on the post. Just as I said it they scored. How can Grant complain about conceding so many set pieces when he is instructing his players not to have a man on the line. Ridiculous!

In some ways we were lucky yesterday. The game could have gone either way. Wenger made a mistake by playing 4-5-1 and that played into our hands. Van Persie wasn't sharp enough. Essien dominated him at right-back. Terry and Carvalho were solid and Adebayor looked lonely all game. I was dissapointed with Lamps and Ballack - they were average and Hleb and Fabregas completely dominated them. Makalele showed an extra range of long range passing that we don't usually see. Kalou and Cole were their usual selves. Drogba troubled Gallas all game. He got through a few times but poor control let him down. I just wonder if he is going to do the same everygame or only in the big games. When Anelka was thrown on, the Arsenal defence panicked. They didn't know how to handle two big powerful strikers - and two lucky breaks later, we were 2-1 up. It was a good day - just a shame about the Man Utd match. I think it is impossible to catch them but at least I now know that we are ready for the big games.

The best games were at Christmas time when we used to see who can hold German Banger the longest before it explodes - we also used to throw Machine-gun knockout in the veranda's of people's houses then run away before they came out.

@ 4Him,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

^^^^ Look, my guy - how is Deco overrated? I have never heard any sports commentator say that Deco is the best midfielder in the World or even close. He may not score goals but he dominates the midfield.

As for Totti being a striker or not, he plays in the Trecarichi position - just behind the main striker. So do Del Piero and Roberto Baggio - and they scored a lot of goals.

As for major tournaments, I am not only talking International. I am talking Champions League as well - Totti has not done anything outside Italian league - yet Italians think he is some kind of Messiah. Even in Italy sef, when was the last time Roma won the scudetto - 2002 or thereabouts. I am still waiting for him to justify his talents. It feels like only yesterday when they said Totti was the new big thing - he is already 30 years old now - when will he start to justify his elevated status in Europe or in International football?

4 Play:
The boy is not going anywhere.I can't see Inter losing such a teen prodigy.

I heard Cassano is available for £3.5m,it will be a transfer coup given his form of recent. I enjoy watching Sampdoria just to see him play.

Please, we don't want that narcissist at Chelsea. We have enough trouble controlling the stars we have at Chelsea at the moment.

Balotelli would be a very good buy - at least better than Altidore. I see him competing with Anelka for a starting place next season.

4 Play:
@Ibime

How can you say Totti is overrated? Is it because of his poor form for Italy in the World and European Cups? That is a major minus in Totti's career.However, he has been a colossus for Roma for a decade now. He won the European Golden Boot last season,he has been voted Italian Footballer of the Year 5 times now.

To me,he is one of the greatest players I have ever seen.If anything,he is underrated.I always felt,when he was still playing as a midfielder,that he was as good as Zidane was in his prime.

In who's prime? Please don't start.

If you read my post, I said that I am not saying these players are poor - they just don't deserve their profile. Did you know that in Italy, Totti is considered one of the top three players in the world? OK - Name one major tournament that he has been a success in. The fact is, he flops at every major tournament. And yes, he was top scorer in Serie A last year. How many years has he been playing football and did not even trouble the goalscoring charts?

I said he is overrated because in Italy, they were incredulous that he was not voted World player of the year last season. If that is not overrated, I don't know what is.

4 Play:
You rate Deco highly? Is it his goal scoring exploits(virtually non-existent) or his level of assists(relatively meager)? Deco is one of the most overrated players.I always felt Barca made a huge mistake letting Riquelme go and signing Deco.Deco is old news anyway,he is not even sure of a starting place anymore.

No, I don't rate him as the best - but I do not think he is overrated. Don't kick Deco when he's down. Have you seen Deco play live? I have seen play against Brazil where he and Quaresma completely ran the show. For your info, he doesn't score as much at Barca because he has more defensive duties. Ronaldinho, Messi and Eto do not cross the half-way line. That is why Henk Ten Cate devised a pressing game which means that Deco is no longer an attacking midfielder, but a central midfielder.

senetee:
bicycle race even with no brakes with our feet as substitutes

Hehehe - I remember this one.

We also played Ballay Ay!

akinalabi:
Take Nistelrooy's positioning away from him

Take Makelele's man marking from him

Take Beckam's crosses away from him

Take David Jame's shot stopping abilities away from him

Take Fab4's passing range away from him

Come on son. His pace is his asset and he uses it to his
advantage.

All these skills are learnt through time and dedication. Agbonlahors pace is God-given. ie it is come-chop. Did you see me criticising Henry, Messi or Ronaldo. These are people who have pace AND skill. Agbonlahor is just using what God gave him. He is not developing his talent.

I remember those days - lovely days. We used to play:

War Start
Counterball
Spoke and Wheel
Catcher
Knack am down
Closest to the wall
Promoting - acrobatics contest

4Him:
Agbonlahor is just one more example of the typical English player - SOP

SOP - Speed Only Player. They don't have great technique, poor first touch and rely heavily on being able to outrun the last defender. While they still have pace they can be a real threat upfront for any team. As soon as the pace disappears they merely become just another Michael Owen.

Other players include Shaun Wright Phillips, Aaron Lenon, Theo Walcott.

You are so right - I have looked at this Agbonlahor and asked myself - what would this guy have if he had no speed? He wouldn't even be able to get into my Saturday team, much less earn a living from football. He should thank his lucky stars he was born with such pace.

I am still trying to play football despite increasing waistline and work commitments.

Here is a picture of me before a football match. I am the one on the far right hand side looking like fat Ronaldo from Brazil.

http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/queenmaryfc/3rdteam/image_popup.pl?id=4011&girl=photo_gallery&size=1

Wayne Rooney is not overrated - because he is NOT rated.

He was rated when he was 17 but not anymore because he hasn't improved at all since then.

I cannot believe that 4Play said Deco is overrated - check your head boy!


Anyway, here is my list of overrated players:


Francesco Totti
Didier Drogba
Florent Malouda
Theo Walcott
Sydney Govou
Carlos Puyol
Steven Gerrard


I am not saying these players are rubbish - they just don't deserve the profile they recieve.

I was so tired, I fell asleep when we were leading 3-1. I woke up this morning to find the score was 4-4. What nonsense!

Anyway, when players are demotivated, it shows at set plays - we have now conceded 5 set pieces to Tottenham in the last 2 games. Twice now, Woodgate has jumped over Drogba to score. John Terry and Carvalho cannot even jump anymore. They lose concentration on set pieces because they have no motivation to play for Mr Grant. What a joke!

Anelka is not even in the squad. What is going on?

bawomolo:
ha ha, isn't the USA a pretty rich country, why isn't it on the list. the scandanavian countries are socialists and not communists. u might need to get your facts straight. the Dutch are predominantly liberal.

Sharrap dia! Do you think I even bothered to read your list? So USA is not on the list? If so, USA is not on the list because although it is the richest country in the world, the rich-poor divide is too large. Crime in the US would be as a result of the 'economics of envy' - and lax gun laws.

Rich countries have no incentives to commit crime

Communist countries do not commit crime because of strict authoritarian regimes and because there is no real difference in the standard of living of the people.

Anyway, back to religion - what does aetheism have to do with reduction in crime?

Racism only started when Caucasians became the leaders of the world. Prior to that, men respected the fact that they had different colours. Racism is simply a white invention.

Anyway, racism will always exist until Africa is respected for her achievements.

Bamo, even by your standards, this is very shallow analysis.

Firstly, aetheist countries are either

(a.) Rich
(b.) Communist

Those are the factors that affect crime, not religion.

Why did you not draw your analysis against countries which have Sharia law? After all, they have the lowest crime.

News reports today that Madrid board want Didier Drogba - although the technical comittee prefer Jozy Altidore.

Milan want Drogba and Shevchenko. Shevchenko is almost a done deal. Abramovic has given his blessing although a fee has yet to be agreed. I am sure Milan will try to take him on loan like they did with Crespo. Bloody cheats. Roman should have accepted the £10m offer they made last summer.

Francesco Totti has begged Drogba to come to Roma today and the Roma board are mulling over it - although it is highly unlikely.

Anyway, just upping the Chelsea thread.

It depends on what you want to do later in life. I did Maths with Economics then followed it with Masters in Apllied Mathematics for Scientific Computing. Left to me, I would say do Mathematics - cos you will cover some statistics modules anyway. That way you have more options.

@ Rasayous

Abeg, don't mind them - yes, it is outdated but learn it anyway - most other codes are written from Fortran basics so it will not be hard for you to learn other codes like C++

Abeg leave the guy. His only problem is that God didn't bless him with pace or acceleration - but when it comes to basic ball skills, he has very good first touch, composure and a decent footballing brain. You cannot blame him for what God didn't give him.

bawomolo:
so psychologists are trained to prove that God doesn't exist. do u know what the field of psychology is

bawomolo:
go and ask the appropriate psychologist, psychiatrist, neurologist etc for the answers u are looking for.

Well, you have just proved how stupid you are.

bawomolo:
go and ask the appropriate psychologist, psychiatrist, neurologist etc for the answers u are looking for.

There are none!

Now, you are waiting for the Psychologist. If it is to do with the big bang, you will quickly jump in. The fact is there is no Psychologist that can prove God does not exist. That is why you guys never debate when it comes to the mental side. Man hasn't even finished discovering the complexity of the brain. The brain is like a million computers - it is a creation of God. You haven't even been able to study it properly, yet you say there is no God. Even your wisdom is like foolishness in the sight of God.

What a wonderful draw!

Arsenal will knockout our nemesis Liverpool

Man Utd fans will get beaten up again when they travel to Rome.

We cannot lose to Fehnerbahce over 2 legs.

Please go and answer the question on this thread before you start asking abother one -

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-119817.0.html

Akolawole:
@Mc Omo

I just dey one corner dey look them.

Didier Drogba,  My man anyday.


Rashidi yekini is not as skilful as Siasia/Adeolu Adekola but we all knew the difference is clear.

Ibime:
Benzema, Eto, Torres, Berbatov, Ibrahimovic, Henry, Anelka, Kanoute, Fabiano, Aguero, Van Nistelrooy, Adebayor, Luca Toni.

All these guys na SiaSia mate? Who the hell is Adekola sef. You don old o!


@ all of una:

I get 3 free tickets for France vs England if una ready to travel go Paris. If you want them, holla at me at Michaeljohans@gmail.com