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Trevor012:
Didn't Jorginho excel in an attacking set up at Napoli and was a mainstay in the team that reached 91points?

lordfalcao:
you once said kante is the only true Dm we have signed since mikel left the club on this thread..

Can you show us how many times we finished with 97 points or 95 points and how many times we reached ucl final

Skimpledawg:
That swiz123 post 'bout Jorginho on July 22nd, 2020 is a classic.




Jorginho fans seem not to have seen it and ibime keeps bringing it up one and time again

BlueMann:
He's had a number of shaky and jittery moments in an SE shirt; failing to claim crosses/looping balls convincingly, making a meal out of what should be a simple save, sturvs like that..

I think those moments have happened one time too many, reason why a lot of people are not sold on him.

swiz123:
All I see here is theories laced with lunacy. Most, if not all of our players were shit under Lampard. When TT came on board, we saw considerable increase in player's quality. A reasonable conclusion would have been that TT is a better manager than Lampard.

Take Lampard to Liverpool and watch them struggle for top 4. If Jorginho's improvement is due to TT, why then didn't he embarrass himself at the Euros. God knows you would quickly rush to say I told you guys so had that happened.

We have always had inconsistent attackers but at least, they understood the tactical requirement and had no issues performing them to their very best. Once a managers tactics can be correctly executed, the team will achieve targets collectively not necessarily individually. As a fan, that's the only thing I care about -- collective achievement.

Perhaps your knowledge of football tactics is limited to DMs... Cos I can't wrap my head on my you can't easily see that Chelsea of last season pressed as a unit which most kept them on the front foot or at least made them compete favourably against footballing giants. This was only possible because TT fielded players who paid incredible attention to tactics. When they move, they move as one, and they hardly lose shape. Though at times, player's weaknesses may suffice, but the general goal was to keep it minimal.

The ultimate goal should have been to build on this, instead of signing a misfit who brought the whole system down. 10 players were now required to play to the strength of 1 man -- an untalented one. The only difference between last season and this season is Lukaku. He made us lose shape, that shape which left Pep aghast; which made us look impenetrable.

Replace Lukaku with maybe Jota and see us bounce back.

BikeMan:
Lol, I just read Ibime's unrighteous epistle. How can you say Fabinho will enter our team? You even pit Rudiger against Matip, fear God!

Jorginho is not our problem please, this your agenda has turned to obsession. What we don't have are attackers. You will understand this when you check the teams ahead of us. Jorginho is not what people here call him but he's also not our problem.

Infact, I dear say that if we had good attackers, Jorginho's inadequacies will not be heavily. Put Rodri in this Chelsea team and let's see if we will not concede goals anymore and suddenly start scoring

BikeMan:
Well, if he's really willing to wait, I'm glad. He's being our best manager in a while if we are being honest. I know you like to discredit his UCL win but he did it beating not one but three of the best teams in Europe. However, I agree that a 38-games competition is a different ball game but I'm looking forward to the next transfer window and see the players he suggest, these ones are trash.

donjazet:
Ibime, The quality of our squad is not much different from that of Liverpool and mancity.
Our major problems are our misfiring attackers and unavailability of key players for large periods of time which in turn leads to a lack of cohesion among the playing team.

Our substitute bench is one of the strongest.
James has developed into one of the best right back and right wing back, likewise chillwell. Alonso and azpi normally should be one of the best substitutes for this position.
Thiago Silva and rudiger are world class defenders with azpi, Christensen and chalobah proving to be also be very good center backs.
We have the one the best midfield pairing in football right now in kante, jorginho and kovacic with able deputies in RLC and Barkley.

Our failing attack is where there is much concern.
Lukaku is a very good striker, maybe a system player but his attacking records are no fluke. This guy has more than 400 goals and assists.

We know pulisic is a very good winger, we've seen him play.. Ziyech too was metronomic for ajax.
Mount, havertz, odoi are just too damn inconsistent.

Fun fact, we are not doing too badly this season.
Mancity and Liverpool have set such an astronomical standard that getting below 90 points now seem like a failure. Imagine winning 30 games every season. This was unheard of in England before. Not even the arsenal invincibles.

I think what we need is at least one more world-class proven quality center back, a goal scoring midfielder and time to let our attackers click together.

It can be argued that we have an even better squad than Liverpool and they're doing so well.

We need TIME.

benalvino3:
that PDF you sourced was from 2019. we are talking about it now. ibime has a point with the Outdated argument. it was in the article he cited but it is not nationwide.

VARANASI With the help of monitoring committees, the distribution of Covid-19 medicine kits began in Varanasi on Saturday as a preventive measure to check the third wave of Covid-19, said additional chief medical officer (ACMO), Dr Sanjay Rai.

popizaino:
Spot on but my question is that is TT not aware that this set of players are below average and needed to changed them during the summer? Why did he feel he could do wonders with this players making us believe in unrealistic expectations?

EmmanuelScott1:
Lmaooo, bro your analysis make me laugh sometimes, because you speak facts with backup stats, you have said it all, our players re average, we seems to do good after a caretaker take control. TT is over performing only few people will understand

BikeMan:
Did he really say this?

benalvino3:
It is the same. You are posting headline of an article that says they were giving people the same kit but expired drugs. Kits from previous wave. Left over kits.

And what does an article from June 2021 have to do with January 2022 covid kit?

benalvino3:
they are the same

Theuniverse:
havertz isnt top 9 quality to win epl. broja would push lukaku more than him physically and tecnically.

benalvino3:
they are still distributing the kits

Theuniverse:
thoughts on broja? southampton want to sign him, in fact talks have started. let chelsea dont even try it!!!!

basilico:
When was that? After oblitering covid using ivermectin?

benalvino3:
US is at 19th out of 234 nations with (2,614 deaths/1 million). Compared to India comes in at 130th out of 234 with 347 deaths/1 million. Overall worldwide average for deaths/million population is 712. This goes to show what basilico has been telling Ibime is spot on. Pretreatment protocol Isolation / ivermectin kit is very effective.

Segedinho:
Maybe I will have to watch him closely then...



What I know abt his draw backs.
1)unnecessary back passes.

2)subdued by a stronger opponents.

And Kante and kovacic have these to complement him.....

lordfalcao:
which last 3 encounter.

The Liverpool match and city match he didn’t play.

Or the first leg of Liverpool match we were down with a red card and he was the most passer in our mildfield or is it the city game at home where kova made only 3 passes more than him. Despite kova playing full time?

donjazet:
I haven't had the time to be online since I saw this.

First of all, I don't know why you keep wailing over my own loss. Surely you're not daft to think I didn't know mancity have a stronger chance of winning Chelsea. It was an emotional bet because I support Chelsea. We always start as underdogs against mancity but our past 5 managers have consistently beaten mancity with those odds. Infact we thrive as underdogs.
Mourinho won mancity at their home.
Conte won mancity home and away.
Sarri won mancity at home.
Lampard won mancity.
Tuchel won mancity multiple times.
We have beaten mancity more than any other team in the last 10 years. We are one of the very few teams to ever outpossess a Guardiola team that obsesses over possession. I bet that money which is like my weekly subscription money in HOPE of us pulling another upset like we do. I don't know why you keep taking Panadol over someone else's headache and crying more than the bereaved.

donjazet:
Secondly, I pity for the fools that take you serious sha. People who don't know that once you're stubborn about an issue, no matter how foolish the opinion is, you will never change it.

You rate a failure like horjberg that has exposed his defenders to conceding 70 goals last season, that has achieved nothing in football over quality DM's like jorginho and rodri who have played their parts in making their teams defensively solid.

You knew that mancity were an almost unbeatable team and surrendered before the match but the same you would keep highlighting jorginho's error against mancity while conveniently creating excuses for kante and kovacic who also failed woefully.
Why are you silent on kante who was our sitting DM?
Your hypocrisy stinks. As I said earlier, it's the fools who take you serious who have much to lose sha.

Segedinho:
Strong press.I agree he is subdued when in contact??

But running from passes..that one na lie

Segedinho:
Ur claim about joginho hiding from passes is a lie bro...a very big one....

From matches I have watch...he is d first person that receives d ball from d backline.....u might not notice it maybe because u dont like him or he doesn't spend time with d ball.

Segedinho:
Don't be deceived by pics




Alonso never over hit d ball...kovacic received d ball well and tool a wrong approach....

I have never seen jogs hiding from passes be.i think he is d best at receiving d balls from both d keeper and other midfielders....

His drawbacks are he makes both side and back passes that are unnecessary..

Segedinho:
Bring were I said jogs will give ball to d attackers

Segedinho:
Tell me how many balls got to our attackers from the midfielders yesterday vs UCL final.

Segedinho:
The worse alternative defeated this same team even on his absence.


If this was jogs,we all know what your reaction would have been.....

Segedinho:
U just jump in without following d argument...
He said I put joginho besides long ball....just cos I was offline....u just accepted it .

Segedinho:
How mnaby times did kovacic gave away chances even in a very dangerous position..


Did u noticed or criticised him just d way u did to joginho


To me ..that is a pure agenda

Singapore1:
you guys have chased openheaven2019 away