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CSTRR:
Why is lampard not playing giroud?

Even if you forgive him for being so defensive against shitty united, how can you forgive him for not playing giroud?

Abraham is vastly inferior to giroud.

No team that presses high can play Giroud.

Any team would break Giroud press

Giroud is for teams that sit back

Sulele04:
SORRY I MISTAKED HIM FOR LAPORTE.
BUT STILL 35M FOR THAT FRAUD IS PURE DAYLIGHT ROBBERY.

You should know only Basque players are allowed to play for Bilbao so no way Lenglet could ever play for Bilbao. Basques are a tribe in Spain with few of them in France like Laporte and Lizarazu.

Anywhere you see those long Spanish names with plenty Z in it like Azpilicueta and Arizabalaga, just know they are Basque.

Sulele04:
LENGLET HAS TO BE THE WORST DEFENDER TO EVER PLAY FOR BARCA, HIS POSITIONING IS JUST PURE COMEDY MAN WAS ABSOLUTELY ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THE ELCLASSICO, MADRID SHOULD HAVE SCORED LIKE 6.

I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN HOW ATLETIC BILBAO MANAGED TO SCOOP 60M+ FROM BARCA FOR THAT CLOWN HAS TO BE THE TRANSFER MYSTERY OF THE DECADE.

Lenglet came from Sevilla for like £30m

Airmark, see as your favourite escort Sergio Biscuits just allowed Valverde to run through and score. The snail was still outside the box when Valverde scored. Some will say following runners is not part of DM work. Spits.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e8FkJzQEIY

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Actman05:
Thanks, I feel sorry for him. How many months are we looking at?
Did you watch sarr against city during the week?

Ligament will be like 8 or 9 months.

I missed all UCL this week except Chelsea match

Thunder will fire Kepa.

See the way Chelsea fans are thanking Mendy on Facebook after he posted on Chelsea wall

Actman05:
What about Xavier, the new guy?

Mbuyamba? He joined us with knee ligament injury. Na why Barca let am go cos they don't have money to be paying a long-term injured player.

E be like na Calabar dey mad pass for all this rioting.

Wetin consign them with FGGC where their daughters go to school?

This guy is a foōl.

So public property paid for by taxpayers is now your birthday gift bags to help boost your profile?

To show how animalistic his mind is, he doesn't even realise the egregious nature of what he is saying.

Fück you Captain Salah

thorrvik55:
Magwaya: Azpi, don't leave me..

The fact that this was not even checked by the VAR self weak me.. Even if they won't give penalty, at least review it. The inconsistency with the use of VAR in England ehn

Chelsea players did not run after the referee aggressively, otherwise it would have been checked

madrid5:
Kai haverts is NOT a winger,stamp it on lampard head

Even in midfield, he's lethargic. For someone said to have so much pace, I'm shocked.

Griffon:
Mehn these boys burnt down my office and made away with every available valuable.

Sorry bro

airmark:
Ok.

Well what Gayjazet was asking for was video of when they were shooting directly at protesters, which he must see before he agrees that Army killed in Lekki.

I don't want to believe the content in the video below involves bullets dropping from the sky on protesters as you thought.



https://mobile.twitter.com/12dddd3356/status/1319328078502498305

This is more compelling. Thanks

Havertz game is too lethargic.

Where are those who said he is very fast and makes a lot of tackles?

SirWhiteFish:
Bros I am telling you, the military will never acknowledge leaving the scene with dead bodies or killing anyone is some cases. Why Dem off the lights?? Wetin Dem go do for the place at night?

Bros don't believe all those nonsense those BSO and BMC are posting on Nairaland to convince people muder didn't happen. They killed people

Even there were bullets in the scene the next day on that Lekki toll gate.

Of course there will be shell casings and bullets when you shoot in the air.

Army will always deny any casualty, even US army in Iraq.

The question here is not whether there is casualty but if there is a premeditated mass murder at Lekki from the top command.

SirWhiteFish:
Do you remember the elzakizaki saga when it first broke out?? You Know the Nigerian army denied any mass grave right??


What was later discovered that they did? Mass grave for people

The ElZak-Zaky incident had many video recordings within days of live murder of those people. That was on a deserted road somewhere in Kaduna, much less the middle of Lekki tollgate

SirWhiteFish:
I want to explain to you in the best possible terms how casualties are handled in this scenario based on my personal experience.


1. Yesterday in Ilorin, I was around the area where people were shot. I was passing by and decided to see what could have attracted so much people.

2. I saw 3 people dead.( I saw it with my 2 eyes)
3. I saw a 3 other different people who were hit by bullets and doubtful if one of them would survive.

4. Those who were shot were taken off the scene by good Samaritans.. on bike to hospital

5. Before evening we realized total casualties of people dead were 5

6. This morning... You will not believe the radio news reported the incident as " unconfirmed reports has it that 2 people died". It didn't take into consideration people who sustained bullet injuries.

How do you explain to them that 5 people were killed eventhough they know?

7. NIGERIANS has an awkward way of saying, "maybe that's how God wants it. Let's just respect the dead and bury him instead of disrespecting the dead". Instead of questioning why their friend or family was shot. So it's hard to show evidence but people know the figure of casualties


8. Most of us at that scene yesterday were just there to mark attendance and prove to others that we were there

I'm not disputing any of this. As I've said, the 2 to 12 casualties is consistent with what happened. I will put that number higher than 2 but lower than 12. Some will still be in hospital now and could die later.

What I can't make a leap of faith to do is believe multiple bodies were taken and army carted them away in the midst of so many cameras running. Expert17 just showed us a video of protesters taking their fellow injured protester to the army at the frontline while recording everything. The person who made that thread even labelled it as "evidence of protestors taking dead protestors to the army". Maybe that's where the rumour of army taking away bodies came from because once protesters drop any injured protesters at the army line, it is army duty to evacuate them to the hospital or morgue as the case may be.

That's without pointing out the obvious that people under real fire will not be in a position to carry their colleague to the army line, so you can discount any argument that they couldn't record as they were being attacked. They are still recording and still taking their injured colleague to the army line.

airmark:
This is exactly what i wanted to type to reply Ibime.

Who would be so stupid to be recording when you see someone dropped around you, when we know that most of those that went to Lekki to protest were not 'cooked' with Selena or assured of it if they even have it in their bodies?.

Question is, did people die of gunshots from the shootout officially? Yes and it has not yet been officially debunked.

Expert17 just dropped a video of people recording at the frontline and carrying an injured protestor to the soldiers after the first shooting. There is no way those soldiers will take away multiple bodies and those guys won't record cos they are right there with their cameras after the shooting.

I also showed a video from a high rise flat of the shootings, and they are at liberty to record the bodies being hidden, same as everyone living in those flats around there.

You simply cannot hide multiple bodies being hidden away in the middle of Lekki tollgate surrounded by tens of thousands of protesters with cameras and hundreds of people recording from their windows.

Aba boys did not waste time to show us 3 boys being gunned down in a quiet residential street which I'm sure you saw. Same in PH.

gensteejay:
The protesters facing the attack were also the ones that did the recording.

Are you saying they should have been able to capture the incident comprehensively under the attack and when running to look for cover, away from the carnage?

Up to now, the government is yet to release the footages.

What are they hiding from the public?

And yet there are many videos from Lekki, some from a safe distance at liberty to record everything, none of which capture multiple bodies being carted away.

We have seen several videos from ABA where extrajudicial murder of 3 or 4 people by Police were captured perfectly with no room for doubt. I believe you have seen those videos.

With Lekki, I am referring specifically to videos taken from high rise buildings who are not under attack, who recorded the shootings and who are at liberty to record the carting away of bodies by the army, but none of this is evidenced.

Believing there was a mass open fire on civilians requires one to make a leap of faith that bodies were carted away, which is difficult to believe with so many cameras recording including people in their houses and all recordings so far show shooting in the air.

airmark:
Yes, since that night many have not seen their people and it may be in line with the claim that many dropped were carried by the army.

The more I watch videos, the more I'm un-convinced about this narrative. Mind you, I have zero allegiance to Nigerian Govt and have always been in opposition to tyranny and corruption and have no dog in the race except my fellow citizens.

You simply can't carry away so many bodies nor drop so many bodies without being captured on camera. No mass murder has been able to be hidden especially not one with so many witnesses and so many cameras.

Below is a bird's eye view of the shootings from a civilian in a high rise and what I see is shots in the air, clearly from the muzzle flashes. This corroborates the video angle from behind the soldiers which larride had thought was staged. A good part of my intuition also tells me a lot of the flesh wounds I have seen are from low impact bullets which are consistent with falling bullets having assumed the velocity given to it by gravity. I trust Nigerian soldiers that one or two soldiers aimed their gun horizontally for a split second which would kill, and I also saw some raising their gun at a suboptimal angle when shooting in the air from the videos I've seen, which would land back at higher velocity and cause more damage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsg3hzkO5U4

Most of the injured I'm seeing in the hospital also look like falling bullet casualties from the severity and deepness of the impact, including the video of the guy in Hospital Unlimited22 posted earlier. I expect an AK-47 bullet to either pass through or lodge deeply in a body. Even on the DJSwitch video, the way that bullet was casually and easily removed from that guys knee suggests a falling bullet because civilians won't be able to pull a bullet at horizontal trajectory without appropriate instruments.

I'm of the belief most of what happened at Lekki was shooting in the air, a lot of it at suboptimal angle that will create a parabola, and a lot of low impact injuries from that. I will never discount horizontal shooting, but extremely limited of it as evidenced by the no of fatalities and severity of injuries. Nobody will be able to hide the bodies that will come with any sustained horizontal shooting lasting more than 10 seconds from 4 soldiers with automatics. The 2 to 12 deaths estimated is also consistent with this, especially people dying in Hospital few days later rather than on the spot.

gensteejay:
Sanwo Olu's interviews also show that Lekki incident was sponsored by powerful forces beyond his control.

Judging by the accounts of eyewitnesses and the pieces of video evidence, a massacre took place in Lekki on Tuesday.

Personally, I've not seen any evidence to believe otherwise.

The Army did terrible things to those youths.

In the West, they would call it a massacre.

In African factor, just like I said to popizaino before the Lekki shootings, bullets will not discriminate if he goes out to protest because I already know how Nigerian army control crowd which includes the taking of some bodies unlucky enough to be at the front.

gensteejay:
This response is tact, bros.

However, is the highlighted consistent with the Army’s massacre of Shite protesters in 2015?

Shiite incident was state sponsored mass murder

I believe issues have to be handled with sensitivity when lives have been lost.

Armed forces in civilised societies disperse protestors with batons, water cannon, teargas, dispersal grenades and massive arrests. If things get bad, they bring out rubber bullets or blanks.

In Africa, our armed forces tend to disperse a persistent crowd by shooting in the air to scare them away. If they refuse to run, they will shoot a handful of people at the front to terrify the crowd into running, then continue shooting in the air till everyone has cleared out. This is what happened at Lekki.

In 1995, my secondary school hired PH Liberation stadium for our Interhouse sports. Sometime during the program, one stand in the stadium filled up with Elekahia boys from the local neighbourhood. After the program, these boys started intimidating students at the gate to give up possessions. To disperse the boys, Police started shooting in the air but some boys were acting brave and refusing to scamper, that's when Police turned their gun horizontal and fired 3 or 4 shots at the boys and one boy called Owē was killed which made the rest to scamper.

This is the African way of crowd control.

These sorts of incidents happen a lot in rugged hoods in Nigeria, but if you try that sort of stuff in Lekki, you will be held to account.

Depending on what side of the debate you choose to believe, somewhere between 2 (SanwoOlu) and 12 bodies (initial reports) were dropped at Lekki. DJSwitch video mentioned 7 people laying down which is somewhere inbetween. I don't know if Donjazet is railing against the inflated early figures such as 49 that were flying around social media in the early days but nobody is suggesting 49 people were killed.

The number 2 to 12 is consistent with Nigerian Armed forces approach of shooting a handful to shots into the crowd to get people running and then shooting into the air to keep them running. One man with a machine gun will claim 30 bodies in 30 seconds as we have seen in many mass murder incidents around the world. I think all these bad blood in the last few days is simply people trying to take extreme positions of either denying or overplaying the reality of what happened. The above I just described is what I see as having happened.

Bamford done kill a lot of managers today

Sebi SARS done invade Chelsea thread?

Niggas dey protest for here oh

This is talent.

Davido is still waiting for songwriter to pen something for him.

madrid5:
the way dem dey happy for guardian and can,dem say he lose heavy for early voting

He is 400k behind in early voting plus postal voting in Florida. But democrats too dey jump jump for postal voting sha

madrid5:
Raumdeter seems like Donald trump don lose oh?

How?

Unlimited22:
My family house is in Oyigbo. We haven't slept for two days.

It shall be well

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