Greatihex: You guys should watch it. One day, if Kante is no longer at the top of his game, ibime will start telling us how Kante's pfa was as a result of 'rising tides lift all boats'.
That is how they have already started rubbishing the contribution of luiz during our 2017 winning season.
Defensive midfielder is not even supposed to be in contention for awards that attackers should be winning, therefore Kante has cleared his name forever.
Greatihex: if Suarez dusted hazard who came second, what then will be said of the rest that were nominated?
So, for a player to be among 6 players nominated out of more than 300 players is not a credit? Mind you, his team did not win the league o?
He got nominated as the most prominent Chelsea player in a team that finished 3rd and fought for title. He was never in contention with Suarez who won European golden shoe. Nor was he in contention with Yaya truly who had a 24 goal season.
Back to the point of Ninjametahuman claiming all PFA players are compared to Hazard when outstanding PFA winners like Bale, Suarez, RVP, Salah broke records on their way to PFA when Hazard PFA was a mere "rising tide lifts all boats" situation.
Greatihex: you always make claims without have facts to back them. If you put money now, you go lose.
Hazard has put a serious challenge for pfa player of the year before when his team did not win the league. Can you bet against that?
Sharrap. Being nominated does not mean serious challenge was put up. Suarez dusted Hazard in 2014. There was no serious challenge. On a normal day, he should not have been compared to Yaya that season sef. That's why he didn't finish top 3 in Football writers award.
BlueRayDick: This guy sef . Shey na u be the head of Sports writers association for Obodo oyinbo ni? The way you dey really hammer on this English press ehn
No mind am. Him radio dey tuned to English channels more than Englishmen.
Well for the past years I've seen these players being compared to one constant Sanchez was compared to hazard Martial was compared to hazard Mahrez was compared to hazard Son is being compared to hazard Di maria at utd was compared to hazard Salah is being compared to hazard Now Mane and Sterling That's to show you how high Hazard sets the bar
NinjaMetahuman: well the debate is not about who won 5 pfa in row but why everyone is always comparing every shiny new player to hazard when there are many players in england with pfa they could compare
Everyone on Nairaland, not everyone in England
Nobody in England compared Salah to Hazard. They were discussing Salah vs Ian Rush as Salah broke Ian Rush goalscoring record, you are talking of Hazard.
Benz performance will be compared to BMW performance, not Peugeot performance.
A40: Yes oh Relapsti World Cup Winner CL Winner Boateng
Here lies Boateng. A great defender in the years of our Lord, 2013 and 2014. His two most vocal supporters tried to eulogise him to the status of defenders renowned for over a decade of performance, but he relapsed on them before the age of 28.
EvilMetahuman: so why is everyone always talking about hazard every single year?
why are they not talking about every other pfa winners or comparing every single player to them?
Nobody is talking of Hazard every single year except on Nairaland where his legion of fanatics vs Raumdeuter make him the topic of discussion.
Hazard only entered running for PFA when Chelsea won the league, and is not to be compared to people whose performance was so outstanding, even when their team did not smell winning the league, they were overwhelming PFA winners.
Gareth Bale won PFA twice without his team sniffing or even in running for league, RVP won PFA with his team in fourphy position, Suarez won PFA without winning the league, and Salah won PFA without Liverpool even challenging for league title. These are players with outstanding and undeniable individual performance. . . . not "rising tide lifts all boats" player like Hazard who is nowhere in PFA when his team does not win league.
raumdeuter: Why is Allison still making a save every 45mins when the greatest defender that ever lived is in front of him and saving 77% of shots
You are using your own data to impeach yourself.
If you look at your data well, you will see every other goalkeeper bar Ederson is making saves every 20 or 30 minutes. That means Allison defence is protecting him well.
If Alison is averaging 2 saves per game, that means he is not even getting FPL points from saves, as you get 1 FPL point. for 3 saves.
when analysts want to hype a player in england, they compare him with hazard when analysts want to hype hazard, they compare him with messi see the big difference?
lemme show you a different similar scenerio.
take a look at apple phones. when tecno or those 200 dollars chinese smartphone fanboys or tech reviewer want to hype their phone, they compare it to iphone. they will even tell you how their 200 dollar phone beat iphone hands down and how iphone is shit. have you every wondered why they dont compare themselves with other 200 dollars phone but always iphone? have you ever seen iphone fanboys wake up an start comparing their phone to some unknown chinese brand?
now link that to hazard and make your conclusion. there are literally thousands of players in england. but hazard has become the SI unit of comparison.
there is a reason for that.
and that reason is what i have stated earlier that you objected to.
You must mean analysts on Nairaland.
No analyst in England compares anyone to Hazard nothing. That is a Nairaland creation.
raumdeuter: If its to play parapo bus parking defending, any defender can do that till age 70 sef. Take these defenders to play high line and let us see how that will work out
When DiMatteo was bus parking to the CL final even Luiz looked okay. Barzagli was expelled by Wolfsburg, Benatia was benched in central defence by 5ft9 Kimmich he got back to parapo defence in Juventus and started looking decent again. At Liverpool Benitez will just pick any random defender from Agger to Caragher to Skrtel, to Hyypia to Finnan to Djimi Traore to Phillip Degen and will make CL final because he will play them in a low block defending, all these players will get away from community defence and turn to duds
Canavaro won the WPOTY and world cup in parapo defence, 3months later he looked worse than Sodje when in Madrid defence that didn't do community defence
Kompany was practically retired and left to play advisory role in City the moment Guardiola arrived and deployed a very high line, Whenever he's healthy and played he is barely mobile and resorts to reckless tackles to cover himself. This same Kompany move him to Juventus or Atletico today and he will play another 6yrs at top level.
How old was Terry when he played under AVB and was totally torn to shreds in the high line?
Vidic one of the great defenders in modern times, how much meaningful football did he play at 34 or even 32. He is currently 37 and sounds like he is been gone for close to half a decade
Neymar1095: Feck sake There's no way he would have gotten away with a few of those tackles today . This guy would be a walking red card . The way of playing the game has changed a lot since then. He wouldn't survive in this era
Nothing like that. These are clean tackles.
If there's anything he would struggle in modern era, it's with the tall lone strikers like Drogba, Kanoute, Benni McCarthy that we saw in the 2000s era due to the fact he does not have the height to compete aerially with them. Romario is making him look tall in this video but he was quite short.
34yrs old, one leg hampered by hamstring issues and the other leg hampered by knee issues, suffering from cramps all day, World Cup Final.............easy work.
He was already 34 by this time but some people would want you to believe Boathand was being affected by old age by the age of 28 when he became rubbish.
Ibime: In football when you are goal hungry, you will get your goals from cutbacks, balls bouncing loosely in penalty area, rebound from goalkeeper spilling a shot etc.
You don't need to go looking for an assist specialist to justify why you can't score. The same Ronaldo that score goals with Isco will go to Portugal and score goals with William Carvalho. Na una wey dey fantasise clean pass before a player can score goals. That shows your immaturity in football.
A nigga like Lampard that scores 20+ goals or a nigga like Ronaldo that scores 40+ goals, you can guarantee that 70% of their goals are not those pretty Mata assisted goals you are envisioning. Throw any old ball into the area and players like Lampard and Ronaldo will get there. See goal Ronaldo scored today.
This still stands true - for those waiting for Rinus Michels to coach Hazard; or waiting for Carlos Valderama to be supplying clean passes before he starts hitting the goal tally expected of a top player.
airmark: Ibime you've not told us why you made this statement and if it's still valid
At some point excuses run out. Every season it's one excuse or another. Our real legends played with worse at times and still took us where we needed to be.
airmark: Czech republic, not sure they qualified for the world cup and not sure they will make it to euros.
More reason for Hazard to show off his dancing skill just like Okocha will use match against Seychelles to show off his full array of dribbles.
That's how you know serious players. When they meet soft opposition, they use it to drink goals while unserious players use it to show off all their dribbles.
airmark: When you have useless CMs he will be stupid to stay wide waiting for miracle to come from programmed CMs we are parading.
That's why midfielders like Modric will always be rated by experts. They will break things down in the middle to ensure their attackers have less numbers to contend with upfront.
I had seen some matches Odoi played and was useless because there were many bodies in front of him and most times he would knock the back to our defenders. I'm not taking anything away from him, but he is far from ready to take us to the next level please.
Let's try him since we cannot drop lower than 6th where shakushaku cannot take us out of.