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I don't know why all these celebrations of Tammy's Swansea being relegated.

Tammy is a Chelsea player and will most likely be loaned out to another club.

This boy is still a young player coming up. And shouldnt be written off just yet.

Northerners need to seek forgiveness from whom they have offended.

elyte89:
Baba win,ok... Let's b hopeful sha,but DT win dey slim

O boy na win Jare.

elyte89:
I share ur opinion too,I pray we draw DT match against Croatia

You pray we draw ke?
O boy if that is your prayer point you better change it.
We should pray for a win biko.

Swansea Mathematically not relegated but realistically relegated.

Humility017:
and who picked the strikers for that tourney?
you guys are trying to absolve keshi of any blame...
even when oliseh criticised him for over relying on home.based players he lambasted him...

I have always mentioned it that I always had problems with Keshi's players selections.

Mickael2:
our strikers then were piss poor. I remember against Tahiti there was a time Ujah was sent clean through on goal and somehow he fell down, I thought that was going to be the worst miss of the match until Ideye started doing his own. Oduamadi was scoring far tougher chances. Since that match na only Musa wey I don see wey dey fall for ground in front of keeper

Against Tahiti, Ideye wanted to claim one of Oduamadi's goals by still kicking the ball against the need after it had clearly crossed the line.

Emenike's goal scoring just later dried up like someone tied his legs from the village.
Keshi did not have good strikers during his time.

Mickael2:
How you go just dey dey yarn rubbish?

Against CIV we should have won 3-0, there was a chance that Emenike missed before he even scored that goal, and the goal that CIV scored was because of a dive by Drogba, do watch the highlights again. Our defence hardly even had anything to do, in fact they had a far tougher game against Burkina Faso


How exactly were we poor at the Confed cup? Against Tahiti we created enough chances to score atleast 10goals, is it Keshi's fault that the strikers on the day(Ujah and co) couldn't score? Or is it also Keshi's fault that most of our regulars were injured going to that tournament? I believe we missed like 3-4 core players in that tournament yet we played very well, now we lose 3 players and we are mince meat for ordinary SA and Serbia. Uruguay were eventual WC semifinalists yet they didn't outplay us. Then in the game against Spain, we were no longer going to qualify, do you still come to park the bus? You come out and play football since you have nothing to lose, that is the basic of knockout football.


I don't understand your problem exactly. Is it that Keshi did not qualify Togo? There is also another instance of how good Keshi is, in one Afcon like that he took Mali and they came back from 4 goals down at halftime to tie 4 all with the hosts Angola, we couldn't even come back from two goals down against SA in a competitive game, that says a lot.

Nobody is arguing against what Rohr is doing but saying that Keshi is better, way better than Rohr TACTICALLY is clear for even the blind to see

You remind me of the strikers we paraded at that Confed Cup: Brown Ideye, Anthony Ujah and Gambo Mohammed. Nigeria scored a total of 7 goals in the tournament. But guess what? None came from the so called strikers.

Danielnino00:
In other news, DR Congo has been hit with another Ebola outbreak... Any chance of the NFF pulling out of the friendly cus of it??

Hmm... but sincerely I am not even looking forward to that game sef.

Fuckyoumod:
Why can't these people defend and fight for their lives

Is it that they are cursed or what??

Does it look like Buhari gives a fvck About them

OK... Keep running and dying.

Can't Fulani's be killed? Are they indestructible??

Abi na only them Get jaz?

I am sure you didn't read the story before posting

Kog45:
Oh Keshi messiah?well apart from coaching,Keshi remain the best to happened to Nigeria football.

Only icon4s,enomakos,goldfish80,certitude and very few will understand this statement.

Oh as a footballer Keshi was like a god in the Green Eagles. This he displayed both on and off the field.

Even with our small black and white TVs then it was not difficult to identify Keshi when he was on the ball. He was a defense Marshall particularly in the 80s.

He was almost as influencial as the coach on and off the field of play. Little wonder he was called "The Boss".

He was always destined to be a Successful coach.

I think he followed the footsteps of his predecessor Christian Chukwu who was nicked named "Chairman".

These were MEN that led the Eagles back then.

Kog45:
Yes you are right and Joebie too,the team should be kept intact and good enough we still have a lot of greenhorns ready for eagles after WC,so the future is bright.

Yeah sure.

Kog45:
Fanny Amu is busy with grassroots football development in Nugeria especially with Lagos State government and Amusa Adisa right from time was a university coach and still doing his things with various tertiary institutions.

Great men. These are the real heroes of Nigerian football.

Kog45:
Thank you icon4s, just decent performance even if we don't make it out of the group i don't care though as a fan I want quarter final.

Remember Cameroon Espana didn't lose a single match but failed to qualify from the group stage but check Cameroon team from 1982 to 1994,it was a good foundation from 1982.

That is it.

Kog45:
Joebie it seems guys are changing tone now,before we are all clamouring for solid performance at least quarter final but now it is a team for the future no matter the performance.

The only long term approach was to have a decent performance at Russia,playing in 2019 and 2021 afcon and qualified for 2020 WC,nothing more.

Hahaha, you know why? That Serbia game was a reality check to many.

But if you have followed the game long enough you will know things can turn around if both teams square up again. Just as you rightly pointed out that our Victory against Argentina may just be a source of our downfall.

My own is no matter what happens in Russia we should keep this team and continue the building process.

safarigirl:
this whole stupidity that many of you like to exhibit on this thread is nauseating.

Every time someone speaks up for me it is because the person is in love, he is looking for how to get into my pants and all sorts of silly comments

If you cannot keep your disgusting chauvinism and misogynistic comments out of discussions, then it is better to not engage in the discussions

Certain people here are old enough to birth me and for you to disrespect them by saying they are in love, with who? If I were a guy would you make such a daft comment?


A lot of tines, we are asked to guard our statements here, but many of you seem to throw that away once you realise I'm female. Is this how you regard the women around you? How you reduce them to entertainment for men? Is that what you were taught?

You should retract this statement and refrain from dragging men of reputable character here to justify your repulsive ideologies

The rubbish has gone on long enough here. I will not allow you meatheads make such foolish statements any longer without setting you straight


PS: While the Siasia statement was erroneous, it did not take anything away from the point and that is why I ignored it. I don't even know why icon4s bothered answering anybody, not every statement must be addressed.

Hahaha, nwanne forgive him abeg. I know it was just a joke. And nothing more.

Kog45:
Chief my point is being a knowledgeable and good analyst of Nigeria football doesn't give you privilege to know certain things about Nigeria football especially discovery of player.

In the case of Mikel,a lot would tell you Siasia discovered Mikel and to some it was Eguavoen but rooted ones knew it was Henry Nwosu.

On Enyeama,Ejide,Aiyenugba and Osaze,Onigbinde was not even in the picture.

Enyeama Vincent was discovered by coach Fanny Amu and Amusa Adisa prior to 2002 WC.

Austin Ejide was discovered by Amusa Adisa when he kept for Gabros against Kwara United.

Dele Aiyenugba was discovered by a female FIFA badge referee Faith Irabor who recommended him to Stephen Keshi 2001 U17 team.

Osaze was not in Belgium when he played for eagles.He got his national team call through Onigbinde,made his debut the same day with Enyeama on May 4, 2002 against Kenya.

Hope you remember he was alternative player to 2002 WC.It was after WC he left for Le louvier in Belgium 2002/03 session.

So safarigirl saying Siasia discovered Mikel not a big deal to me cos i even thought it was Eguavoen and if not for you i will never know it was Henry Nwosu.

Hope you get my point now.

OK. I get your Point Sir.

But where are Fani and Amun and Amusa Adisa currently? Those two really unearthed so many Nigerian footballers oh.

Joebie:
Sir it won’t be woeful. what we have now is something that looks sustainable. We want decent representation and steady progress. That’s better than getting to the
QF then falling off the radar in subsequent WCs. Let’s have a more long term approach for once and not expect magic overnight.

Try and understand what Kog45 is saying. If we have a woeful outting that can lead to a total disbanment and over-haul of the whole process. And we begin all over again hoping for another miracle in Qatar.

If this team at least gives a descent performance it will set the stage for continuity of the progress being made and this may lead to better performances in the future.

As for me, I am really pleased with the current progress of the team and would want to see it sustained. Even though I don't belong to those that have set so high a target for the team, I expect a descent outing at least.

Goke7:
Until Nigeria reaches quarter final of the world cup, keshi remains our best coach. Haters can do the needful by hugging......

Or you mean..... from amongst our local coaches?

BascoVanVeli:
U are lying to yourself because it is not me that will believe that stuff. If there were strikers that were so good Eder who had barely played the season before would never have made the team.

Please keep your lying to yourself talk to your self. What kind of argument style is this one again?

You can place Victor Moses any where you want in your team. That is your opinion please.

tbaba1234:
Peter olayinka is in great form.. 3 goals and 6 assists in the last 8 games..

11 goals 15 assists all season...

Very impressive... Another one that ceratinly deserves a look in.

Now looking more like he may just have done enough to gate crash the 35man list.

safarigirl:
So, I have been watching videos on YouTube about World Cup predictions

I am glad to say, 97% predictions are certain Nigeria will not qualify, 85% of them have us bottom of the group, 70% are sure we won't scrape more than a point in all three games

However, I did encounter a certain gutsy fellow who has us finishing Top of the group (I am glad to say, he isn't Nigerian )

An Egyptian pundit thinks Nigeria has the best African team going to Russia (funny enough, he thinks Egypt has the worst)....he is however realistic in his expectations of qualifying and ranks Egypt as the African team with the highest qualification chances, followed by Senegal and Tunisia (because they don't have any actual powerhouses in their groups), Nigeria is 4th because Argentina is the only solid threat while the others are here and there, Morocco is dead last because they have the misfortune of playing Spain and Portugal


All in all, the predictions are okay I guess, however, the guy who thinks Nigeria will top Group D had the best analysis, others barely analysed, but his was in-depth, down to the tactical strength of each team, how they like to play (he got the part where Nigeria uses pace and soaks in pressure) and their talismans.


Watching these videos are actually fun.

PS: Some dude listed the players in our World Cup Squad. He had the likes of Alampasu, Enyeama, Success, Aaron Samuel, Nwakaeme and Emenike on his list

Yes, book makers and neutral pundits tip Argentina and Croatia as favorites to advance from that group.
The Egyptian fellow that tipped Nigeria to qualify probably did so in the African spirit.

But one thing I must point out is any pundit that has been following Nigerian football for long should know Nigeria is a country that is capable of anything.
And that is why we have hopes we can qualify from that group.That is the Nigerian spirit.

We are where we are today not because we lack the talent and quality but because of majorly administrative inefficiencies and disunity in the team.

Which neutral pundits would have predicted that Nigeria would have qualified from that WCQ group that had Algeria and Cameroon with one match to spare. 3 points were even deducted from us and we were still ahead.

I am hinging on the fact that this team is well motivated. This current NFF administration have really superceded what most past administrations have done in terms of preparations and motivation.
Plus there is unity in the team. Based on this I so much believe we are going to give any team a run for their money.
I just pray all our key players remain fit.

BascoVanVeli:
You are lying to yourself. You and I both know that Eder being selected proves beyond any doubt that their options were limited.

In the past couple weeks Moses has won games for Chelsea at that position by offering cutting edge and potency as u call it. Why are u overlooking the fact that he can also have immense effect on our offense. This is the world cup and the players will do whatever will help their country.

You are lying to yourself how? I am telling you the obvious and you are lying to yourself. You cannot tell me there are no strikers of Portuguese origin in the whole of the Portuguese first division.

So you have even changed from "no options" to "options were limited". The simple truth is Ronaldo and Nani could offer more than what any other strikers Portugal would have paraded could have offered and so they had to play as strikers. How is that one lying to yourself?

We need Moses more in the thick of attack and not as a Wing back. Why is that difficult to accept?

BascoVanVeli:
There u go with more lopsided examples. They played at striker because the team didn't have any other option. For crying out loud Eder- was their back up, if that doesn't scream of lack of quality then I don't know what does.
We already have Iwobi and Nacho that combined for 3 goals and an assist as strikers in the 3-5-2, we also have Ighalo and Musa who will also get a look so what is the big deal if Moses plays in a position that he has shown he can win matches in. I don't get wat the fuss really is about tbh. Its not like I am saying he should play goal keeper, this is a position he knows more than anyone on the team.

What do you mean by lopsided example?

It is not that Portugal did not have any other options. Eder aside, are there no strikers in the whole of the Portuguese league? There are several strikers of Portuguese origin but the coach chosed to convert Ronaldo and Nani to strikers for that tournament. These were players that were most likely to give the team that cutting edge up front. Which was why they were paired upfront.

That is the same case with Moses here. He is that WF that has the most potency to give us the cutting edge upfront. For God's sakes we don't have issues with our Wing back options.

TheGoodJoe:
The U21 can help but keep in mind, we also have players who are above 21 fighting for places in the team too. A good example is Sone Aluko. We need more activities for our players. A U21 team does this too.

You will invite a player like Sonne Aluko and put him in a "Team B" as you call it. Hen I laugh.

European teams all have standing U21 teams and there is even a European U21 tournament to expose these players. Countries in Europe value this age grade far more than the U19/20 cos they pick from this pool to their senior teams and their U21 teams go ahead to play in the Olympics a year or 2 later.

Now, the question should be how do we acccommdate players who are over 21 but are yet to feature for the Super Eagles. Remember I mentioned it as the U21/23 team. Or the U21 to progress to U23.

It is expected that some exceptional players who are already 21 would have proven themselves already to get a call up to the Super Eagles. However for those who could not break in and are still in their early 20s we have an U23 age grade competition which can accommodate these them and just like from previous Dream teams we select the ones that excel to the Super Eagles. Look at simple examples of Ekong, Shehu, and Etebo from the Rio team. A good number of U23 players though are typically senior team players. Like Ekong and Shehu.

My major targets for that U21-23 are players who are past the age of the 2019 U20 but are eligible for the 2020 U23. In this pool we have numerous talented players whose careers are on the ascendancy both in Europe and the NPFL. I can role out at least 50 names. We groom them together, organize quality friendlies during the FIFA free window and keep progressing those that excel. That is the simple model I am proposing. Rather than just picking 1 or 2 players and say they are special talents.

We need this large pool cos we do not know those who will finally come out good or otherwise so we don't hope on a particular player or few set of players and when they flop we get hit badly.

Mujtahida:
I've slowly come to believe that Rohr is conservative. Doesn't like making substitutions

Substitutions are made only when or where necessary. There is no law that says a coach must use all his 3 substitutions.

Danielnino00:
You know,if Conte hadn't decided to try his 3-4-3 formation with Chelsea, we won't be having this discussion of playing Moses at Wingback at all... Dude is a winger right since he started playing professional football.. that's his best position and he is our best attacking threat... We already have Ighalo who isn't consistent,Nacho who struggles while playing as a lone striker and Iwobi who is wasted on the wings... Why drop Moses to wingback..
Ahsim,Rohr said it recently that Moses best position is as a winger and he won't play him at WB . So what's the fuss??

I just tire.

TheGoodJoe:
We should not wait until Iheanacho scored the goal for Manchester City against Crystal Palace before he becomes part of the Super Eagles. The Team B should be an extension of the Super Eagles and if someone prolific comes out of it, we should not wait him to do well in the club before he gets a nod. We should not let the clubs be the only decider. We should do more to help develop a larger pool of players.

By Team B are you referring to the U21 team I have been proposing?

BascoVanVeli:
All these what if's don't make sense. Did any of those player play wingback for 2 seasons straight in the EPL?

Do you know Ronaldo and Nani were Portugal 's two strikers at the last Euros? Why? They were their most potent players. Is that the position they play at their clubs? No. Do you know David Alaba was deployed to the number 10 role by Austria at the last Euros?

In the national teams players are deployed to positions where they are most needed.

TheGoodJoe:
Waiting for our potential players doing it in major leagues before a chance to represent the Super Eagles.

See.

TheGoodJoe:
I thought we were talking team B now. How you jumped to flooding the Super Eagles with Potentials socks me. Please, the point is about complimenting the age grade competitions.

You did not Say Team B you said Super Eagles.

We should do more we should do more. Forgetting that the best place for those players to develop are at their clubs. How many times do national teams meet in a year. No favoritism please. Any player that comes out good irrespective of whether he was an U17 product or not, he should be invited to the Super Eagles please.

TheGoodJoe, na you know o.

I am done with this discussion abeg.