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Humility017:
19 years old and he is a right back,
I think can play CB as well

Good then.


We set eyes on him for the U23 Team.

gamaliel9:
There is a certain Felix Agu..a defender who players for VFL OSNERBRUCK that just got promoted to Bundesliga 2 from Bundesliga 3

He is eligible for us...

How Old is he?

ChrisKels:
I wonder why people hail all these road side mechanics masquerading as footballers in here.

Simmy, Etebo, Ogu, Onazi, Agbo, Agu, Shehu are all carpenters. The worst of them all is Misses PenalGhalo of the CSL.

I remember calling Rohr an inept coach due to his short sightedness for preferring Simmy to Awoniyi of Nec Nijmegen, Dessers of ****, and my big brother Icon4s and co came for my head, sighting his smokescreen showing against Ibengue's Congolese side as a point

O boy wetin you say I do?

tbaba1234:
Guinea under 17 disqualified from the under 17 World cup for fielding overage players. Senegal will take their place.

Good riddance. What were they thinking?

Boys that were so obviously overaged.

Happy for Senegal Jare. They had a be-witched tournament. Another opportunity for them to shine.

chrisooblog:
hmmm from your post it seems you are really hurt. sometimes you have to learn to let things go.

have a good day

Abeg leave forgiveness o, he's in pains...………………..

For the records, I criticised Osimhen's early inclusion into the national team and even the U23 as way back as 2015 (Tbaba1234, TheGoodJoe, Safarigirl, TheSuperNerd, Bascovanveli, Joseph1034 are some of the oldest members of this thread and they have known my stands on choice of players from way back). But the boy has come of age and is delivering both at Club level and current U23, so I have to defend his inclusion against those who believe Awoniyi is supposed to be there and not him. Same way I didn't rate Onuachu after his U23 assessment in 2015 but I am ready to give him a chance now because of his current form.

I know some will think I have something against Awoniyi. Just like how some thought I had something against Osimhen, K. Nwakali, Iheanacho, Uzoho and Chidozie Awaziem. The thing is I will always raise a Red Flag if a player is hyped above his actual level and is not proven enough to earn a national team call-up. If tomorrow Awoniyi's delievery is enough to earn him a place in the national team and is invited and someone else is pushing for another player to have replaced him I will defend Awoniyi.

My own philosophy is we need the best for the national team. Even our best may not be enough not to talk of when we dont present the best.

The current list we have now comprises the best we have to offer for now. All players on that list merit their places. Even those on stand-by merit their places on the stand-by list.


Rohr is a coach that believes in calling up the best players available. We should please end this Awoniyi debate and focus more on players who have been called up.

Good Morning all

godspeed:
Bros, u can be sure there is no way a 25- man list will satisfy everybody and contain all the qualified players.

This has always been the case everywhere and every time and certainly did not start with Rohr nor is it peculiar to him only.

Every coach takes the liberty to take controversial decision from time to time leaving the fans whinning, I guess this also adds to the intrigue of the game.

Look at the 94 team we love so much ,Westhoff's list did not fully satisfy everybody. I mean I know of people back then who complained about the omission of Mike obiku and ugbade.

It's not only a Nigerian thing I know. Wasn't Dybala omitted from Argentina's team to the world cup?

Romario at France 98?
Cantona at France 98?
Jo for Kaka in 20014?

And then, even if awoniyi was included in the team, do u seriously expect that he will play?

Apart from u, I don't know any Nigerian fan that will seriously miss awoniyi at the AFCON, so what's the fuss?

Humility017:
to be honest all the Cfs invited are way ahead of him in the pecking order.
paul scored in the his first match for the super eagles against a renowned
opponent like the Egyptian.
Oshimen proved his worth against the libyans in asaba...had it been Awoniyi scored those goals
i.e the hat trick oshimen scored i doubt Rohr to have ignored his inclusion into the super eagles team
remember Okereke got an invitee for the next super eagles match against egypt from his display in that
match...that to tell you how rohr rated that Libya match...he watched the match himself.

and for nacho... rohr actually picked because of past exploits we all here know rohr does not really rate the belgian league
the time is just too short to try new players... and after all awoniyi is not that prolific compared to the invited players...

So why the clamor for Awoniyi then if not for sentimental reasons?
I am not one of those that will look at certain comments and look away.

Any player that deserves an invite will be invited irrespective of Region or Religious back-grounds. No room for quota system in the national teams.

chrisooblog:
i personally feel awoniyi is worthy of an invite but i won't stand logic on it's head to defend my opinion

Suggest one of the CFs Rohr ought to have snubbed to accommodate him.

iSlayer2:
I'm gonna be blunt. I think the argument on including Awoniyi is mostly biased driven. Yeah.

Awoniyi has not had a great season by any standards. During the first half of the season he was nowhere, we feared for the boy's career. It was only during the new loan at his former loan club Mouscron that he banged in a few decisive ones here and there but still nowhere near that top level at all.

Now put him side by side with the other attackers invited. He can't compete an established striker like Ighalo Onuachu has had a great season and when eventually he was invited he put in a convincing performance. He can't even compete with Osimhen who plays in the same league. Osimhen has been a monster. Down to Iheanacho, based on pedigree, Iheanacho has it going for him. You can't invite an unproven Awoniyi who has not had a great season in place of a tested Iheanacho.

I would suggest someone else performing at a decent level be invited in place of Iheanacho. Currently. Awoniyi is not that person.

Bros, your Lunch is on me.

And to make it bad ''Awoniyi fronters'' are already attaching tribal coloration to it all.

The National Team is for all Nigerians. Any player that deserves an invite will be invited.

andrew444:
Where did I call iheanacho world class ? It seems you don't understand simple English

Your only World class are mikel and Ndidi

So when did I mention iheanacho and success and even nwakali ? I said all your players in eagles are average apart from those 2 so it included iheanacho and everyone else

Stop disgracing your self ,you know better .

The way forgiveness twists things. In 2016 Tbaba wrote out a list of top 5 Nigerian World Class Teenagers from the 2013 and 2015 U17 sets. He mentioned Iheanacho, Success, Yahaya, Osimhen and K. Nwakali and excluded Awoniyi. That is what he is trying to twist from '' were World Class Teenagers'' to ''are World Class Players''. Him no gree pessin rest again

Forgiveness honestly, you will make a terrible Lawyer.

jihday:
I think one of the 3 CF will be axed

Not necessarily. All 3 can still make it.

forgiveness:
Who is talking about last season? I am talking about last season.

Your opinion about me is trash as far as I am concern.

Now, answer me. Why did Brazil coach picked Taison and Fred who scored 7 and 3 goals respectively for Sharktar Donetsk ahead of Williams Jose and Malcolm who scored 14 and 12 goals respectively in the La Liga and Ligue 1?

No sane coach will drop a player in a Sharktar Donetsk for lesser club even if you play in a top league.

Around 20 players from the Belgium pro. League made the world cup for different countries.

How many players from the Danish league made their teams?

Croatia goalkeeper is from where?

Kayode played regularly based on this stats below. I don't know where you got yours from.

Bros you need some rest

elyte89:
Mention just one player in d present eagles setting above average ?

Just leave him. I think he needs some rest. He obviously spent the whole of last night searching for those pages he took snapshot of and posted here.

O boy see wahala.

forgiveness:
Awoniyi is average according to you.

So u spent only God knows how many hours to go dig out a post from 2016. Just to show that I said Awoniyi was average.

Chai!

forgiveness:
You never believed in Awoniyi from the onset. So, I never for once took you seriously.

Any Awoniyis, Kayodes, etc are just average to you and your cohorts.

Internet never forgets.

After looking at the snapshot of our debate in 2016, is Awoniyi among the top 5 world class talented players our U17 produced?

As you can see my prediction then is in line with the reality today but it goes along way to prove that you and many here are sentimental and prejudice in all analyses.

Bros I don't understand the point you are trying to make here.
That list posted by Tbaba1234 in 2016 about the top 5 talents from the 2013 and 2015 was very correct considering the performances and displays from the Players at the cadet level. It didn't state that they will all go ahead and become Superstars. Even Chukwueze was not in that his list but is today ahead of some other players he mentioned.

Please try and be keeping your arguments to context.

darkelf:
Ohhhh. You're the same guy that was giving excuses saying that Rohr was playing mins games before the mundial. I will bookmark this page to remind you when nacho flops at the mundial

I am not understanding you.

Come again..

Kog45:
Haba Chief say something cos i don’t see any big deal in dropping Onuachu for Awoniyi or Awoniyi for Onuachu.

But telling me Onuachu deserve the spot than Awoniyi i will never agree.

It’s Rohr choice and i respect the list.

Egbon.......

Anyways let's not drag this issue further. Rohr has made his choices.

Let's talk more about the selected players now.

So which two players do u think Rohr will likely drop.

do4luv14:
I would prefer nacho be dropped,
reason. He needs to rediscover himself,
firstly his best, and main position is an AM, steadily from there he will move forward as a Ss, before thinking of CF,

the constant of playing him as an SS/CF most times, even when he score, is doing nothing to his career


he needs a full pre-season under ROGERS,
or he should go onloan to west ham

What if Iheanacho puts in a good shift in camp n fits into the team's tactics should he also be dropped so that he can go and "rediscover himself"?

Kog45:
Chief i will drop either Onuachu or Iheanacho.My opinion.

I will not say anything. Let me leave others to say something about this.

Earthquake3:
Hmm see thesis

Only for the mature minds.

isan:
10 attackers are on the list and you all know two of the ten will be dropped but you are giving yourself hope because of favorite players by calling for the like of shehu , awazuem and semi ajayi to dropped i repeat two attackers will be dropped

Now, let's be careful. The term used is "Forwards". Which includes both Wingers, SS, CFs.

There are 4 SS & CFs on that list and 6 Wingers. Out of this 6 Wingers u may only play 2 at a time in a game. We have a surplus in this position if u ask me. And I think one of the natural wingers may NOT make it to Egypt. I fear for Samuel Chukwueze if the other Wingers are in good form. Hope he is not gonna miss out on both major tournaments? This singular point I know is what Rohr may consider and chose to keep him. But who will he drop from: Iwobi, Simon, Kalu, Onyekuru and Musa. Iwobi and Musa are already in Egypt. Simon missed the last WC due to injury, after contributing so much to the qualification, and if he is fully fit in camp the coach might want to compensate him with the AFCON. Now left between Kalu and Onyekuru, who to me are still ahead of Chukwueze.
Ighalo, Osimhen and Onuachu are the 3 natural CFs and are likely to be in Egypt already. Iheanacho's ability to play as an SS, and AM in addition to CF is what is still keeping him in the team. If he doesn't put in a good shift in camp Rohr may have to drop him and not any of the wingers. But if he applies himself well, I fear for Chukwueze.

Then also we have 8 Defenders out of which 3 are Full Backs and 5! are CBs. The CB is another position we have surplus. All the 3 Full backs are as good as being in Egypt if u ask me. And for the CB to drop, it is easy to look towards Semi Ajayi but his ability to also play as a DM might keep him in the team. Awaziem looks like the one to be dropped IMO.

My likely players to be dropped: Awaziem and Chukwueze/Iheanacho

elyte89:
Simply nacho, d only thing going for him is because he is in premiership

U can't imaging if nacho is in Belgium league just like awoniyi,and he's sitting on d bench all thru d season

He won't even smell d list even if rohr decided to increase it to 100man list and I won't b surprise also if he makes d final 23man list because of dt "premiership tag"

And u think Awoniyi would be having regular game time in that Leicester City team?

Common, let's be sincere to ourselves abeg.

Iheanacho even in his current form will set the Belgian league ablaze.

Barryseal:
Ajayi plays In Egypt. A bit of a cult hero at AL Ahli. The locals will want to support their boy which could give him the omph to be a joker for the team.
He is very hungry too, the nation's cup have proved to be a play ground for hungry team of players like Ajayi, recall Zambia, Keshi's Nigeria and Cameroun as case studies.
For me, Rohr made a weak and liver less decision dropping him. Title winning managers make this sort of decision and shut people up with results.

Hmm... you've just made a good point about Ajayi here. Now I totally agree he deserves at least being on that standby list.

gamaliel9:
Sir I do not want to be politically correct....you watch North African teams...see how they play like time bomb waiting to explode...Moslems hardly control themselves...If you criticise Christ or the Bible before a Christian...he may argue with you...or leave you...but a Moslem...already he has a knife on his waist....he is ready to kill you if you criticise Mohammed or say something offensive..Christians have higher degree of self control than Moslems...Christians use more of intellect that feeling...

Bros, this is a football thread abeg. No Religious talks please.

Kog45:
Honestly very good list but sometimes we just need to review it and see may be one or two players deserve to be on the list and I think Awoniyi deserve a spot based on his performance this season.

Egbon, please go back to that list of strikers and suggest one Rohr ought to have dropped so as to accommodate Awoniyi.

I dey wait.

elyte89:
Meanwhile for those clamouring for nacho to b dropped,don't b surprised if he makes d final twenty three man list ,

For me it depends on what he offers in camp. If he applies himself well and breaks his way into the Coach's plans fine else, he should be booted out.

Oasis007:


He's not a Lawyer, he's not trained to argue his Case here professionally. I believe Forgiveness is simply fighting for Equity and Justice, however most of Clients are from certain Region.

You see, that has always been the root of all his agitations. He is always fighting for Equity and Justice based on certain lines.

You cannot fight for a 50-50 representation between a particular Region and the other. There should be no room for quota system in football. If all the national team players are from Zamzafara state and they merit it. It is ok.

When ever any List is Rolled out he has always had this way of agitating against the exclusion of One or certain group of players. Or he will agitate against the inclusion of one or certain Group of players.

One of my distant relative is a current member of the SE but there was a time he fell out of favor concerning invitations, but I never carried plackard all over the thread and labelling some of the coaches of bribery allegations.

Forgiveness comes to me as a good guy. But all my issues with him have always been his choice of Players to agitate for or Defend. And nothing else! There are people who see such attitudes and look away but I will not.

When someone repeatedly says something over and over again, it can appear as truth in the eyes of the gullible. So anytime I read such comments I will have to challenge it.

Oasis007:


He's being always harmless (not sentimental) with his Supports, but kinda being misunderstood by Dudes here.

You say harmless? Trying so hard to pull another player down because he is trying so hard to front one of his own players?

Bros think am na

Oasis007:


Your Affections for certain Players from certain Region in Nigeria.

So even you too don finally agree?

But is that not so very obvious?

That sums it up.

Humility017:
God forbid. for now ezenwa should man the post abeg...
i rewatched the nigeria vs cameroon match again yesterday...
abeg Ezenwa is better than the duo of uzoho and akpeyi...
he has a better gripping on the ball than the duo... and also more composed
Rohr should use him as our number 1 goalie

Humility! Na u dey shout "God Forbid" for Uzoho? Ok o.

forgiveness:
Answer questions and leave story.

From Awoniyi to Opabunmi. So which is the next player u want to compare with Osimhen? Kayode after that one u mention Ajagun