I’ve literally been begging everyone I know in Nigeria (skilled professionals, of course!) to make relocating to the UK their priority in 2021. It’s high time they gave cold and snowy Canada a break and give UK a chance. Opportunities here would be massive in 2021, from PSWV to HSMP.

I predict a massive brain drain and mass exodus of EU professionals, which would lead to opportunities for suitably qualified non-EU citizens, including high flying Nigerians.

icon8:

Only that from January 1, 2021, that would be a crime - unlike now - with appropriate claims for damages, for good measure!

Pray tell, how would the skin colour of EU citizens entitle them to pay Home/EU fee in UK universities? Or lawfully grant them access to public funds (in some instances)? Or bestow upon them the right to live and work in the UK without a residence or work permit? All of which they have today - and give them an edge over their non-EU counterparts- but will stop from 01/01/21.

Ah, I didn’t think so either! Unless, being an HR practitioner, perhaps you know something the rest of us don’t, like you’ve been trained to pay particular attention to skin colour of candidates during recruitment, and you should prioritise a certain colour over others, no matter their competence and qualifications?

E don dey happen... I guess they too will start paying IHS now (or what’s that surcharge my brothers and sisters used to complain about on here in the past)? Or has that been cancelled for everyone now?

My point is, everyone is about to be treated equally, at least on paper. No more EU privileges over my dear countrymen/women.

TheGuyFromHR:


Lol, alas, that will never happen.
Skin colour will always continue to matter, make no mistake about that.

Only that from January 1, 2021, that would be a crime - unlike now - with appropriate claims for damages, for good measure!

Pray tell, how would the skin colour of EU citizens entitle them to pay Home/EU fee in UK universities? Or lawfully grant them access to public funds (in some instances)? Or bestow upon them the right to live and work in the UK without a residence or work permit? All of which they have today - and give them an edge over their non-EU counterparts- but will stop from 01/01/21.

Ah, I didn’t think so either! Unless, being an HR practitioner, perhaps you know something the rest of us don’t, like you’ve been trained to pay particular attention to skin colour of candidates during recruitment, and you should prioritise a certain colour over others, no matter their competence and qualifications?

TheGuyFromHR:


There are no real benefits for the UK's leaving the EU, because generally the UK gave up the benefits of a huge free trade area for less than it already had. It was an emotional move, not an economic one.
As for any disadvantages, if you have no business with the Continent and as you have just arrived, you will not notice anything, there will possibly be some price rises here and there to absorb the consequences of all those border checks, most disadvantages will take time to show, but there are no advantages whatsoever.

If, as expected, EU citizens continue to leave the UK for other EU countries, as a fallout of Brexit, then it is logical to expect more UK job opportunities, according to the forces of demand and supply.

Another advantage for non-EU citizens in the UK, who until now have been treated unequally as EU citizens (due to EU laws) is that every non-UK citizen will now be equal (at least on paper). Whereas prior to now it was UK/EU citizens ahead of all others, now it will be only UK citizens before all others (i.e. Nigerians and EU citizens will now be seen as equal under UK laws, unlike before).

Already, the 2-year post-study work visa is a huge advantage of Brexit, for the millions of non-EU students that will benefit from it. Ditto for the new tiered immigration system that’s about to commence in January 2021.

Those could be considered advantages, from a non-EU immigrant point of view, as it is expected that there will now be a level playing ground for all immigrants, regardless of nationality, and EU citizens will no longer be legally prioritised over other non-EU nationals. Effectively, Nigerians would now be second class residents (only below UK nationals), rather than third class residents (below both UK and EU nationals).

Dreambeat:
NIN is meant to be 11 digits but the one on GTB app is 9 digits. Correct me if I am wrong.

You are certainly right about the bolded.

erico2k2:

those of us who did BVN in the Uk nkoo

Bros, I no know ooo

LagosismyHome:
Has anyone heard of this? Or know if it's TRUE?

I don’t think it’s true. I believe that service is for those who have registered for their NIN. It’s true though, that NIN and BVN have been linked, but you still have to register for both separately.

Modified: it may be true afterall. I’ve seen claims that those that registered for BVN at the very beginning had their NIN automatically created for them at the point of BVN registration. This may explain why the service works for those with BVN starting with 221.

Contra5:

See you! I'm a woman

Ko ni meaning

Odedenshi1:


Immediately it became glaring that someone was stealing letters, owing to Friday’s incident, I had a chat with some of the housemates, set up a whatsapp group and added almost everyone, including the suspected thief. By Saturday, the suspect moved out of the house informing the caretaker that he had emergency back home and exited the whatsapp group. I have this feeling that the caretaker is aware of what is going on because both of them are Pakistani.

I just realized my NI should have come in last week or 2weeks ago based on information from friends, who received theirs this week because I submitted 1week before they got their forms. Now my DBS Certificate and NI are nowhere to be found. If you live in the same house with a Pakistani, please be careful. Those guys are dangerous

I called the Police yesterday about this issue and was told that we should procure a CCTV camera for the mail area. The remaining housemates are now very vigilant.

I just hope I can sort myself out of this situation...

Erm...the bolded is what some would call fallacy of hasty generalisation. And I’m not even looking from a racism/bigotry/discrimination lens yet.

Do as you’d be done by.

Poch:
Bros look my post na...

I explicitly stated that my analogy was loosely defined.
I also explicitly stated that my analogy was void of any economic indices...

Should I quote my previous comments...so you see?

Abeg take am easy...na celebration period we suppose dey o... This COVID-19 sef...see what you have caused!

Poch:
Ok boss.
Let me clarify what you call misinformation.

When you wanna send down £1k back to Nigeria...and it hits your family's bank account... What is the equivalence of that transaction in Naira? 500-600k.

Is there any mathematical template that would ever define £15k in anyway as being equivalent to N30k?

Again, there is no need for argument.
If you feel I am misinforming people, I am sorry.

Na learn everybody still dey learn...

Equivalence is all I was talking about.

Chop e-hug, bros/sis
Thanks for the maturity, and please accept my apologies if I came across as argumentative or feisty.
Have yourself a merry little Christmas

DisGuy:



was about to point this out too...

Perhaps if people use Job roles rather than absolute number

So Sales Asistant in Naija Sales Assistant UK
or Systems manager vs Systems Manager or equiv

Like minds...

Poch:
Bros, nobody dey debate with you. Must we always have arguements to have a winner or loser?
Its fine, you win...im sure someone out there who understands the point will find this discussion useful.
And for the records, I never mentioned that a 500k earning Nigerian is a low income earner... You probably need to read slowly and comprehend before engaging in debates...lol

The essence of my post was never to win. How could I engage in a competition with an anonymous stranger? Who gives the medal and to whose benefit?

All I sought to do was set the records straight, in response to your comparison of a £1k earner in the UK with the equivalent 500-600k earner in Nigeria. Those were your words, not mine.

This is a public forum, widely accessed and relied upon by a lot of folks back home in making decisions. It’s in everyone’s interest to challenge misinformation and clarify misconceptions, lest we lead people astray.

Poch:
Hahahaha... Thats why I said 'loosely'.

Definitely, if N30k was equivalent to £15k, people struggling to come down to Europe/UK for no too plenty. You get...lol

Many people leave their 500k+ jobs in Nigeria to come settle for £15k jobs here... and just try adjust to the new realities...

On the other hand, someone earning 30k in Nigeria and comes here to secure a £15k job will probably say he's hit a jackpot!

That really is equivalence... In my opinion sha...

There’s a lot of reasons people emigrate, and economic reason is only one of them.

For purely economic reasons, no one will leave a 500k plus monthly salary job in Naija to settle for a £15k job (per annum) in the UK. I know that because I’ve been in that situation and I know the reality.

They could however take the £15k job as a stepping stone (a foot in the door) while working towards their dream role, but I repeat, if you’ve ever earned 500k monthly in Naija, a £15k job per annum would never seem like a jackpot to you. Door opener? Yes. But jackpot? Hell NO!

PS: I quite understand that people make sacrifices and take pay cuts to be with their family, move to saner climes, and all that. Those are other considerations outside of economics and are hardly relevant to this discourse.

LagosismyHome:


A low income in UK would be like less that minimum wage so let say 15k pound .... to compare that with naija you have to use naija minimum wage which is 30k naira per month

Can a family of 4 survive with 30k naira a month in naija ? Not to talk of thrive ...

Bless you!

Poch:
Hehehe... Ok let me explain what that statement infers:

Imagine someone earning £15k per annum here in the UK.
Thats less than £1k monthly... Or let's say £1k monthly. Yea?

The term equivalent in my statement 'losely' refers to someone earning an equivalent of £1k in naira.
So say, a 500k - 600k monthly earner in Nigeria...

The Nigerian earner can afford to save more, probably live more comfortably and even have enough to delve into business/income diversification options...more than his equivalent counterpart earning £1k monthly in the UK... That £1k fit no reach to pay house and council bills sef...

I know my analogy is kinda lose...and doesn't take into consideration many economic indices, yea...but vaguely speaking, the statement holds some water... Hopefully you get the point.

This defies every logic and rational reasoning. How could you refer to someone earning 500-600k monthly in Nigeria as a low income earner, just by virtue of foreign exchange comparison?

FYI, that income bracket is top 5 percentile in Nigeria, and is only earned by mid to senior management staff, including senior medical doctors and professors. Whereas, the so-called equivalence of £1k is earned by some of the lowest earners in the UK.

Let’s be careful and guided in our comparison, please! At least, compare apples with apples, not apples with oranges.

I’ll help you with this. Compare the life of a medical doctor (or a professor) in Nigeria with that of their counterparts in the UK. No need to do any foreign exchange conversion, as that would be relative comparison rather than absolute. I’m happy to engage in that debate, not the one you put out up there.

Poch:
Sorry to intrude, but this argument is a no-brainer and uncalled for.

This is one of those rare situations where you are both right!

It is tougher to earn and save in the UK for low income earners...whose equivalent would thrive extremely well in Nigeria...no doubt.
However, there are socio-economic and security perks that could also influence a choice of abode.

It finally boils down to individual situations and choices...and will be very wrong to try impose your personal situations/experiences as a standard that must be seen as right/true and followed.

Truly, you are both right... but should also try be discerning and empathize regarding other people's opinions.
There is no standard to this thing!

My 2 cents.

The bolded is not necessarily true though. Is it?

wonlasewonimi:


Do you know how many people from UK went to Shiloh?

Even in the middle of this pandemic?

Just heard a virologist on Sky say the new variant is already found in Nigeria

Mamatukwas:
I have Naira for £ house. Any takers please PM me.

What’s the prevailing rate ma’am?

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Dfazz:
Thanks you mama,
I don't have any issue with my passport/ BRP and other documents as they all have just my first name and surname. The issue here is that my birth certificate has my middle name and I have never used the name ever before in any of my documents, now if I tender this to my employer will it not contradict with the name maintained on my documents.

Your employer can read. You don’t have to use all the names on your BC on every document. The guy everyone knows as Boris Johnson was born Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, but is mostly referred to as only 2 of those 5 names.

TheLasyBuddha:
Quick question, please.
A friend of mine would have her certificate mailed from the UK as she has been awarded a degree. She has been asked to choose a courier service: either DHL or Royal Mail. The DHL would offer a tracking service, which would cost her £20 while the Royal Mail wouldn't offer a tracking service.

Would you advise she use Royal Mail instead of DHL as her certificate would reach her still or she should use the DHL service?

Are you trolling now or what?

Monmarri:


Many thanks for your time. I appreciate. Thank you.

Some do get married and home office will not find out. I have a friend who told me she came to the UK and stated 3years as overstayer, got married and she keep applying to home office and she was getting refused. Later her lawyer adviced her to go back to home country and apply for spousa visa, which she did and she got the visa last year, She is now in the UK. Some can be lucky to get married.

The type of friends you keep though.

wonlasewonimi:


Abeg leave erico2k2 alone with his old generation banks.

I heard some people are planning some explorations in kent. Just wanted to put it here that I live in Kent and open to scintillating explorations

Ash...

LagosismyHome:





Dont be an "osaze odemwingie".....

Keep shooting your shot like Mrs Kanu

DisGuy:
Icon8 see shots fired shots fired

Afternoon tea in rural Kent

Mixed with some explorations

LagosismyHome:


Hahaha Really another Hayes in Kent. Kent is one area I have hardly even visited .

You need to invite me for a cuppa tea and some exploration