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Education / Re: What Is The Opposite Of The Word 'Opposite'? by icon8: 12:12pm On Feb 03, 2021
Same or Similar, depending on context.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 7:44pm On Jan 31, 2021
enesty:
Thanks
Am looking at general living (getting a job in the uk)how easy it is to make money there compared to Canada. I want to do an msc in public health or adult nursing, also I am a married man with a kid
So I am really weighing my options. Or I should just channel my energy into immigration Canada

If you meet the eligibility requirements for Canada and you have no specific attachments to the UK, then I’d say Canada, with UK as plan B.

For a neutral, other than the UK’s nearness to Nigeria and Canada’s horrible winter (very very cold and long) I can’t think of anything the UK has over Canada.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 5:29pm On Jan 31, 2021
enesty:
Hello please I really need the truth as regards this question
The UK or Canada, which is easier to get a pr,am thinking of Canadian immigration or studying in the uk
You get Canadian PR the moment you set foot on Canadian soil (through any of the skilled immigrant programs) and you qualify for citizenship after just 3 years. To get PR in the UK, you must have lived here for a minimum of 5 years (ILR), and another 1 year (totalling 6 years) before you qualify for citizenship.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 10:14am On Jan 30, 2021
LagosismyHome:
Does anybody need naira worth of 1,000k ....so I give you naira you give me pounds.

What’s your rate?
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 12:01pm On Jan 25, 2021
Luvdmx:


I tried Ohentpay but was told service unavailable at the moment.

Is there any other ways to send money to Nigeria?

Thanks

Have you tried Mamatukwas on here?
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 3:15pm On Jan 18, 2021
Aprokodaughter:



Reach what level? Please put me down.

Why I go vex for person wey I no no.

Next time learn how to talk or move on when you have gotten your answers instead of saying I don't understand your question or you're not a prospective student.

That's rude and disrespectful.

Some of you come here and act like you are chatting with a robot.

We are all here to help ourselves nobody knows it all. I was only trying to connect you with people in your field.

Anyway I don learn my lesson.

Smh undecided

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 2:03pm On Jan 18, 2021
TrumpsWall:
You must be a 'Yes Sir' kinda guy wink


E be like say you want to start another “fight” grin

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Sports / Re: Drogba Separates From His Wife, Lalla Diakate, After 10 Years Of Marriage by icon8: 10:37pm On Jan 14, 2021
Chii59:
You separated last year and this year you're already making videos of your romp with another lady.
Today's generation of individuals are the most undisciplined ever.
Please tell us how long wait is acceptable to you. Perhaps he should wait forever and not move on with his life?

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Sports / Re: Drogba Separates From His Wife, Lalla Diakate, After 10 Years Of Marriage by icon8: 10:33pm On Jan 14, 2021
Romanoff:
The man cheated, someone on front page said his value will not diminish but he can't say same for the woman.

It is well with the African woman.


Learn to read and comprehend. The essence of this post was to dispel misconceptions such as yours. If you could read and understand, you’d know that.

In summary, the man did not cheat. He’s been separated from his ex since last year, long before he was seen with the new woman. Which is exactly what this post is all about.

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Sports / Re: Drogba Separates From His Wife, Lalla Diakate, After 10 Years Of Marriage by icon8: 10:28pm On Jan 14, 2021
Beremx:
so is the adultery he committed justified by your comment?

Which adultery? Did you read the post at all?
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 9:45pm On Dec 28, 2020
Lexusgs430:



I had a duck for Xmas...... Quack Quack....... tongue grin

Lol. Egbon Lexus the Ijebu quack doctor grin tongue

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 5:30pm On Dec 28, 2020
Aphrodite007:


Bring sentiments in all you want, that’s your business. I mentioned an apology to people when I made my statement, but now let me bring you to my level.

During my computing degree in Nigeria , I was taught pascal and VBasic, while my mates in England were learning python and c#. I have dreams of employing Nigerians based on skill not emotions, but that would be the curriculum starts teaching real stuff. I don’t know about the Med field but I know Nigerians are so smart that they can easily learn what’s needed in their field here and excel. But do they actually have the degree in comparison to e.g the Germans? You use your mouth and answer.

If you want to misconstrue my words without thinking deeply, that’s fine- I don’t roll with petty.

Run along. I’m not in the business of wrestling in the mud with pigs.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 4:54pm On Dec 28, 2020
Aphrodite007:


The fact that you think the bolder is ridiculous worries me. Even me as an employer wouldn’t pick a Nigerian over a Brit, having experienced the two systems of education.. unless I want to pick based on sentiment.

Apologies to anyone offended but I’m being honest.

I saw computing in Nigeria and I saw computing in UK, and I saw the HUGE difference. The times I hired a Nigerian over a European was cos of “na we we” not cos they were better.

So if you think you’re now expect from preferential treatment, leeeemaaaaoooo!

Lol. I think you need to apologise to all the hardworking and skilled professionals who studied in Nigeria and are currently plying their trade everywhere around the world. A lot of them distinguished and very accomplished!

You just called all the Nigerian trained doctors on this thread quacks and mediocres compared to their European counterparts, as well as the IT practitioners, and other successful professionals in all walks of life, and the graduate students from Nigeria who finish top of their class all over the world. While I won’t hold court for anyone, I certainly do not agree with you that anyone, no matter where they were trained, is better than I am in my profession. Education is a continuum, and there is no barrier to learning in this day and age.

That said, you are entirely entitled to your valuation of yourself and your worth as a Nigerian, but sadly, I don’t, and will never, share in your view. I believe I am up there with the very best, and the opinion of a stranger on a faceless platform ain’t gonna change that!

Peace!

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 12:31pm On Dec 28, 2020
Chukwuka16:


See, I get you. Weeks ago, I passionately wrote about the need not to discourage young folks back home from exploring or migrating to the UK through the study route – based on the new PSW visa scheme. I still hold this view for young folks but for others, I suggest caution.

However, we have to be objective here. Coming to the UK from next year for older folks needs strategy and tact on their part. You don’t want to get into a system at some certain age and just watch life roll by simply because you feel tied up – we have many immigrants in that trap and it’s only going to get worse. They have become locked-in to the system and have committed themselves to ‘gbese’ like mortgage and car finance that they have now become slaves to employment.

The majority of jobs that will open up will be low-level jobs. Highly specialised and managerial roles will still mostly remain with the whites then Asians (because they own a lot of businesses here in the UK). The majority of non-EU jobs will be middle-class roles. So much work and average remuneration.

I don’t hold fort for EU citizens, but I know that English Language will work against many of them.

Getting a job in the UK from Nigeria won’t be uhuru from next year. You have cost for visa fees and HIS surcharge now becoming too much. How much do you earn yearly that can support you and your family’s visa application fees and IHS for 5 years and then pay for ILR and then pay for passports? Next is living expenses and rent and sundry other charges – all on top of how much?

Spread the news about the PBS and let people know of the opportunities but also let them know that in the long run things may most likely not pan out well. As I write this, I just remember a discussion between me and my friend a year ago. We were returning from work when he jokingly told me that we were only 2 salaries away from being homeless. His argument was that in the event one’s salary was stopped for whatever reason, we could get away with the first month’s rent by arguing for grace/extension but by second month, we were sure going to be ejected. That was a sobering moment for me. Ask yourself truthfully if you can with your monthly expenses running your family comfortably save 6 months of your salary within a year (or 2 at most) as emergency spend in the event of an emergency (considering all the bills and sundry charges)?
These are words on marble, and I’ve got nothing but respect for you.
With cautious optimism, having a solid plan, and of course God’s favour, I believe most will make a success of the opportunity. Nigeria is already hard for the common man, I trust they will survive here, if they keep their eyes on the ball.
Thanks for sharing. Cheers

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 11:55am On Dec 28, 2020
wallg123:
Please you people should stop arguing up and down .... The UK wants her independence from EU and now she has it... Let’s enjoy the outcome or suffer the consequences...

Meanwhile nobody for this group fit invite person to come chop Christmas food? shocked
Uno no dey try oh grin

Go chop Christmas food and catch corona lol
Aren’t you in tier 4?
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 11:37am On Dec 28, 2020
TheGuyFromHR:
It's a general fact that the difference between government policy and what actually happens in real life can sometimes be wide.

Take an excerpt from that policy statement: "We need to shift the focus of our economy away from a reliance on cheap labour from Europe and instead concentrate on investment in technology and automation. Employers will need to adjust[i][/i]."

Oyibo.

The UK still needs cheap labour. So cheap labour and expensive labour will still come, black, white or brown. And because it will still be easier for European cheap or expensive labour to access the UK than the black and brown versions of the labour, the playing field will ultimately still only be level in terms of Whitehall policy only.

Take for instance, mutual recognition of qualifications. Under the deal, this will no longer be automatic. Good news for non-EU in theory. In practice, if an employer has to choose between a Nigerian University of Ife degree or a German University of Dusseldorf degree post-full Brexit, we need no crystal ball to guess where the decision will fall most times.
The bolded is ridiculous and ludicrous, for obvious reasons.
Anyways, I’m done here. We all are entitled to our opinions. Cheers
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 11:25am On Dec 28, 2020
Chukwuka16:


Three years ago, heck, infact early this year, I would have agreed with you that indeed the UK leaving the EU was going to be beneficial to employees and non-EU citizens. Today I know better.

When the UK resided within the EU, they needed to maintain a minimum standard of workers’ right and we had the European Court of Arbitration to arbitrate on issues relating to workers’ rights etc. That was a way through which workers in the UK could leverage equivalence among EU member states as an argument for improved wages. You saw a lot of such comparisons across UBI, wages, hours worked, job precarity etc. EU member states provided a basis for comparison. In fact, BoJo used to compare deaths in the UK with Italy, France and Spain and only stopped when the UK started blazing the trail.

With the introduction of the PBS, what we have is exploitation. We had it prior to Jan 1, 2021, but it’s going to be more pronounced going forward. Economics tells us that when supply exceeds demand, price will fall. That is what is going to happen from Jan 1, 2021. It isn’t just about uniform access but quality of wages.

Getting a job isn’t going to be the crux of the matter but remuneration and job security. There will be a lot of precarious jobs and different kinds of contracts to ensure that employers can extract maximum utility from them. The existing and about to be extinguished system of job recruitment made it a lot easier for job holders here in the UK to move around (despite the travails a Tier 2 visa causes).

You’ve got to look at this holistically to see the overall big picture. This is a return to pure capitalism in its entirety. With the EU, we had a mix of capitalism and socialism. With this, we are back to an economic system that favours only the employers.

Think of how much has been spent by the government and on whom – businesses. What have employees gotten aside furlough (reduced wages in some instances)? Businesses have gotten BBLS, CBILS, CLBILS, Future Funds, Grants, Contracts, etc.

I’m only concerned that years from now, folks don’t look back regretting what they thought was going to be a golden opportunity which only ended up causing them a lifetime of regrets/frustrations.

Listen, I’m not of the opinion that Brexit is a bed of roses. Neither have I attempted to paint it as such. I’ve only sought to highlight a few points I consider are its pros, from a non-EU immigrant point of view.
If it makes any difference, the post I quoted arrogantly declared “there are no advantages whatsoever”. Hence my attempt to repudiate that claim.
Finally, I voted Remain and I still believe that Brexit is a bad idea, but to claim it has no single benefit whatsoever is ridiculous, even if the cons far outweigh the pros.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 11:12am On Dec 28, 2020
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 10:27am On Dec 28, 2020
Chukwuka16:
With regards to the benefits of the UK leaving the EU, there is only one side that matters – the business side. I’m both an employee and a business person and I can say with all confidence that EMPLOYEES DON’T MATTER. Labour unfortunately has never been more readily available and cheaper.

When the UK brought up the new PBS of immigration for immigrants, they introduced 2 new things that should signal to any person what is going to be the norm. First, they removed the resident labour market test (RLMT) and secondly, they reduced the salary threshold (remember this was what sent many immigrants home after 2015 when it was jacked up to 30K and employers couldn’t afford it).

The new PBS system has signified that cheap labour will be the norm from next year. Imagine a PhD holder on £23K on Tier 2 from next year (people go suffer gan). Imagine how businesses will skew job titles just to fit with SoC titles so that they can offer very low and ridiculous salaries. Also remember that talent is now in excess supply and employers with Tier 2/5 sponsor licences can hire anyone from anywhere without justifying WHY.

The UK by design has a unique place in history and has worked hard to establish major institutions that anyone would want to be affiliated with. More so, they colonised a lot of countries and by default will enjoy patronage from them (inferiority complex). Their yearly spending on overseas aid (ODA) of ~£10 billion for 2021 is still a significant war chest.

Unfortunately, the EU cannot experiment with low wages like the UK and that was why state aid was a major divergent point during discussions on the deal. There is fear within the EU that the UK will deploy and indirectly subsidise its businesses to get unfair advantages over their competitors within the EU – think US/Boeing and EU/Airbus wahala.

Unfortunately, employees will suffer more from this deal. The idea of skills (professionalisation) and job security has just been lost. When your lawmakers can freeze pay for public servants and still receive salary increment without shame, you begin to get the picture of how relevant employees are. Remember all the Thursday clapping for NHS workers and what it has resulted in monetarily – nothing for them.

If your income is Employer – HMRC – Employee route, well, prepare to experience an increase in PIT to pay back the loans and government spending on BUSINESSES. This life seriously is not balance. Also for the contractors, IR35 is just smiling at you very broadly. Welcome to the new UK.

You just may have inadvertently made a case for a benefit of Brexit for non-EU immigrants. All you mentioned above only lend credence to the thinking that EU citizens will leave the UK for other EU countries (27 of them), when the UK becomes unattractive to them, due to the reasons you stated in your post. They are spoilt with choice (27 other countries, some better than the UK), why would they stay in a country where you’ve boldly claimed EMPLOYEES DON’T MATTER? That was exactly what I alluded to in my earlier posts, and would open doors for other non-EU immigrants (Nigerians inclusive) who wouldn’t mind the ridiculous wages on offer, just to get a foot through the door and work their way up.
For the umpteenth time, I believe Brexit will open doors of opportunities to immigrants from outside the EU. However, the overall health of the UK economy is another matter entirely, and only time would tell if Brexit is a blessing or a curse.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 8:58am On Dec 28, 2020
RalphJean:


This statement is CATEGORICALLY untrue.
There is ABSOLUTELY no evidence to back it up.

The Only 'evidence' is that it was happening by virtue of the UK being a member of the EU.
I can prove that I had previously been denied a job (which I was more than qualified for) because I hold a Nigerian Passport.
What no one can prove is that EU citizens will ALWAYS get preferential treatment post-Brexit.

Bless you!

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 8:57am On Dec 28, 2020
justwise:


Don't hold your breath on that sis, EU citizens will always get preferential treatment over Nigerians/Africans.


See reasoning grin
If you really believe that, then you’re certainly suffering from inferiority complex of the first degree.
Do you also believe that EU citizens are and will always be better than you, simply because of your ethnic background?
Abeg, take your self-defeatening outlook outta here!

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 6:18pm On Dec 26, 2020
justwise:


If you believed that then you will believe anything. EU citizens are getting permanent/citizenship already. Many have settled here already and will not be in a hurry to leave after Jan.

In life, and from time immemorial, there have been the Pharisees as well as the Sadducees. I don’t expect everyone to see life from the same lens.

Each to their own. I’ve stated what I believe will happen, you don’t have to share my opinion. Only time would tell.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 6:12pm On Dec 26, 2020
TheGuyFromHR:


At the bolded: Bad advice.

At the italicised: This is not going to happen.

Time will tell. You are free to advise your circle of influence as you so wish. I keep advising mine as I see fit.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by icon8: 6:04pm On Dec 26, 2020
LagosismyHome:


Well before PSW was taken away , UK too was not easy ooo. To get a job that makes you stay after PSW. Many people were forced to go home

So UK is not a magic wand either

They were not competing on a level playing ground then, as EU citizens were prioritised alongside UK citizens. Not anymore!

Besides, 3 years should be enough to plan and execute, all things being equal. It’s certainly better today (2021) than those pre-Theresa May’s days as Home Secretary!

There’s no magic wand anywhere, and those challenges abound everywhere for immigrants. It’s not easy in Canada either, but folks are surviving there. Why not here? It’s not as cold or as far from home as Canada. That’s my point.

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