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soccerlite:
Do you know have many Palestinian living working receiving medication in Israel

Go check

I know, and you think that's favour? It's still slavery. Keep them in their "Gaza prison" open them in in the morning to work, return them and lock them I the evening.
I know you would not like it if a situation arise that a "Superior Race" takes over Nigeria now and restrict it's people to a small portion of land, fenced them away and give them labourers permit to labour for them daily and expect them to be thankful.

People always want their own country, their own economy, school and hospital and to not be under the control or influence or power of actors they do not owe any political obedience or patriotism.

panafrican:
They are putting medical staff members and patients in danger.

Israel doesn't care, she cries of terrorism while she also perpetrates terrorism. To Israel, it does not matter who you are or your faith or profession or your age, if you are a Palestinian, you are a terrorist that must be killed. That's the most inhumane narrative or mindset that people don't find palatable.
Justice has away of emerging victorious, at the height of the Slave trade when Africans are sold and traded like Kulikuli, who would have thought it that the world would have a change of mindset? Who would have a thought of it that another circumstance beyond the control of the oppressor slave merchant will naturally end the slave trade?

So, all hope is not lost on humanity yet, people will somehow one-day rise above religious prejudices, greed of war profits and ego and allow justice, equity, human rights and make compromise for the peace ✌️🕊️ on the region.

Nicepoker:
That's why I said its poor urban development. Some things could be relocated to other places. Don't comment with your emotions. Talking about not being duty bound to like Ibadan. Who asked you that one.

Talking about the analysis that you did before, who asked you for that as well?
It's poor urban development, thanks. Enjoy your rich urban development in peace.

Nicepoker:
Urban development is poor in Ibadan. There are some settlements and places that's not ought to be located in the heart of the city. Those markets inside the city make it worse. From ogunpa, agbeni, oja oba should all be relocated to outskirts.

Those were on the outskirts before the city encircles it. Same thing happens in every growing city. You are not duty bound to like Ibadan, and she not looking for hardly pleased outsiders validation, and when people look beyond the 1890 mud houses with Zinc roof, they see value. Many prominent people lived, lives, schooled and made their name there.

joelbooks:
I want to use this opportunity to apologise to Peter Obi and all the Obidients for not voting for him in the last presidential election. By God's grace, in 2027, I'll definitely not vote for him again. that man will never become the president of this great nation.

You just like violence for no reasonable reason that I can reason about

Nostring:
you're delusional..fvck off

Deranged

Nostring:
kidnapper get off my mention

You mention my handle first drug addict

Nostring:
dey play criminal,your days don near

Mumu

Nostring:
so na your colleague .. your days are numbered,we go read about your end here soon by God's grace.. criminal

It's natural, when you wish people dead, you die before them.

jeff1993:
Stoopid .... ESN dey their own, u dey here dey cry .... both u and ESN are Yuseless to your family

Mumu Sanwo Olu demolition crane says Hello!

Botragelad:
I hope no one blubs when the US hits back. This is for people like you who are always shouting Ceasefire and genocide so remember that these terrorists have bitten off more than they can chew!

Jordan na US soil? Wetin 2000 plus US soldiers dey do for Jordan?

jeff1993:
Only one state has up to three viable ports..... Na wa ooooo!!!!!

No time for ESN unknown gungun, we focus on our own development

AuthorMan:
I love your analysis.

I should have responded instantly now but let me aquire more facts and dig more into history.

Meanwhile, what I believe is, Israel expanded during the several wars her neighbors waged on her. Like in 1967 they expanded on all sides.
It is a fact known throughout the ages that the victor in a war owns the conquered lands and the inhabitants except if she wishes to relinquish it.
This is why one should think twice before starting a war.

Israel never wanted to go to war after the United Nations gave them their new land, the countries around them brought war to them. And when they fought it and won, the lands conquered became theirs.

Anyways, I need to read more history.

I love your analysis anyways.

Happy Sunday

Happy Sunday to you to my brother, you are an intelligent 🧠 person and emotionally balanced. I enjoyed your broad intelligent analysis as well

EreluRoz:
Is this 666 thing real? They used to teach us in bible school

That shiiiiiit isn't real and Jesus is not coming soon to anywhere. Don't let any religion make you gullible.

Krismas:
U are missing out on something important. There was nothing like Jews in Palestine until the 1940s wen they immigrated to the place. There is nothing like Jews in the Bible! It was scripted into the Bible by European translators. And it’s purpose is to further the greatest identity theft of the 21st century playing out b4 our eyes. The Jews are Europeans of Mongol origin. They are proselytes to Judaeaism, the religion formerly predominant in Palestine b4 the complete Islamization of the area for 700yrs of Islamic reign. Jews have no connection to Palestine in any way, shade or form. They are colonialists, planted in Palestine by Britain and America

Thanks for the addition, it's true that prior to 1940, Palestine had no significant Jewish population. It was the unjustly Balfour Declaration that brought them in after which they started the implementation of the extreme Zionist supremacist ideology.

SaLongs1:
If you think the Jews will ever succumb to the kind of force that the Roman Empire used in dispersing them before these crop of Arabs came to settle and claim it then you are sadly out of touch with reality. Islam is generally their problem which encourages unsustainable birthrates with the resultant conflicts and clashes that prevents them from utilising their own portion to farm and produce food. Stop blaming others for a conflict inducing ideology.

The last time I checked it's Israel that has delivered the magnitude violence and force you are describing.

So, religion and the children that people give birth to is the problem now, not the territories or land? May be we should just wipe off that religion and their followers including the children they gave birth to right? So far the world does not like them, it wont amount to genocide at least the Israelis have started it for us in Gaza, we can help them finish it off. An atomic bomb will be helpful.

11doubledee:
To be realistic borders will always be a contentious issue because history did not start in 1914 or 1948.
As we all know Judaism is far older than Christianity let alone Islam,Abraham (Ibrahim) is the Father of all but most likely a Jew.
Wars, enslavement, famine, antisemitism may have displaced the Jews over time that doesn't mean they never owned a land in the middle east.
Moving forward concessions have to be made because I don't see how violence solve anything now or in future

Yes, compromise on both sides has to be made for lasting peace. And border will forever be an issue amongst states, but for one state in dispute with another people to have so much authority and control over them, a people they are disputing lands with is injustice. Israel should not have control over the Palestinian side, a neutral state should or the UN.

Everything that caused the Jewish displacement and exile was never caused by the Palestinians, so why should they bear the consequences?

It sure doesn't mean they don't have a place origin and at the same time does not mean the Palestinians should be decimated, exterminated, exiled or made stateless and homeless for their resettlement.

Well, both sides applies violence and it's disproportionately affects one side that the other. It does not solve the problems and the longer the problem is left unsolved the more difficult it becomes.

AuthorMan:
Great point but not hundred percent factual.

Do you read history?
There was a time Israel agreed on a two state nation and the palestinians rejected it because hisbolah advised them not to accept.

You see, nations of the world was once occupied by a group of people or race. America belonged to the Red Indians.
Even the history of your village will have it that your great grand parents migrated from somewhere.
Another way people occupied lands in those days was through wars. And since that erra has passed, everyone has moved on living with the invaders peacefully.
Why are the Red Indians not fighting for their land till date. Today they are part of the great USA.

For Example, during the 1967 Arab/Israeli war. Israel conquered lots of land from the Arab nations that waged war on her and part of those lands was the Sinai Peninsula.
Sinai Peninsula belonged to Egypt but it became Israel's after the war. In 1979 Egypt approached Israel to relinquish the captured land. (1967-1979)
Peacefully, they both reached and agreement. They signed a treaty and became friends. The following year, 1980, Israel gave back the Sinai peninsula to Egypt.
Since that time, Egypt and Israel are friends.

What am I driving at?

War and terrorism can't solve any problem. If Egypt did not handle the issue peacefully and wiselly they could still be fighting for the land till date.

I enjoyed your submission, issue and event based.
Let's now exchange views,
I agree with your submission and let me state that, I hate the unnecessary waste of human life, I do not really care before but as a father and parent, I could imagine what the Israeli and Palestinian civilians who had lost families Children and aged to this conflict that has refused to die for decades because both sides refuses to compromise and embrace justice.

Yes, they were both offered and agreed to 2 states solution, an agreement brokered by the UN and a border was demarcated for the two parties. But the Israelis did not halt the settlement expansion while the Palestinians rejected the two states solution initially believing they could get all their former Palestinians territories back as well, but this was long before Hezbollah was created in 1982, so it wasn't Hezbollah that advised the Palestinians.
But then, the Palestinians position should not stop the Israelis from working on the two states solution, cos Israel herself took lands beyond the UN recommended boundaries, so Israel as well did not commit to the 2 states solution. Cos if she did, she would not occupy West Bank and have military 🪖🎖️ presence in Gaza and the world would be pointing accusing fingers to Palestine alone now.

Yes, the history of the world is dominated by settlers violence against the aborigines, and these were majorly committed by the the whites settlers, the Europeans. They did it in Americas, notably the USA, Australia, South Africa, and the present case under discussion. These occupation and settlers domination of indigenous peoples does not justify or offer any justification for the cruelty, murders and deprivation they met upon the aborigines and siezing their lands.

Check the American history very well, Red indians fought the settlers for decades but because of the superior war technology of the European settlers, they withdraw into the wilderness away from the settler towns and population. Over the years, they integrated, the integration was only possible because the Red Indians population has been decimated greatly by European settlers, so they dont matter much and they were not having their villages enclosed by wired fences or under siege, so they could farm the lands and do trades etc. If you are a fan of Hollywood, many wild wild west movies told the stories of Red Indians resistance to European settlers violence and many historical research covers that too. And the reason they are not fighting till date is cos they are allowed to integrate.

Israel does not want the integration of Palestinians in the Israeli Occupied territories, they want a pure undiluted Jewish state, and a total take over of the "biblical Israeli lands". So, why not allow the Palestinians have theirs? Where do we expect the Palestinians to go if the Israelis keep expanding and there no policy of Palestinian integration?

The Egyptian and Israeli diplomatic settlement over Sinai is commendable and smart move on the part of Israeli diplomats to silence Egypt for a long while in the region. The same thing is going on with Saudi Arabia and Israel , why can't we have same level of compromise over Palestine? Why does the settlements keep expanding in the West Bank? Why didn't the Israeli honor their own part of the 2 state agreement to really proof that the Palestinians leadership are the dare devils here?

All of these points still does not justify the death and kidnap of 1700 Israelis and about 28,000 palestinians, women, aged and children included on both sides.

As we have for years designated Hamas as a terror group, we don't expect much accountability from them, but for a State like Israel with membership in UN killing almost 30,000 people and destroying such no of civilian settlements including schools and hospitals through shellings and bombings....
They are just as culpable as Hamas terror group, infact their terror capabilities dwarfs that of Hamas terror group a 100 times over.
It is only when they resorted to violence that we listen to them and remember they are under oppression, before October 7, we all have forgotten the Palestinians but as soon as something happened to our beloved Israel, we kick shout and mourn, cos they are the ones that matter to us, our double standards smells terrible.

seunayantokun:
Am I to provide you that or you get online to read up?

You saw the evidence, the bring it here or provide a link. Unless it's the usual "I guess and I think facts" that people beat their chest for all over the internet

11doubledee:
If all these grievances you highlighted was their real objective,why not keep pressing for a diplomatic solution instead of starting a war you clearly cannot handle.
What have they achieved since October 7?
And I thought there were four security barriers between GAZA and isreal, which Hamas destroyed to gain entry into isreal.
Although you didn't talk about the sporadic gun and knife attacks, suicide bombings and kidnapping of isrealis that warrants strict security measures.
And how do you make an it an obligation to wipe out another regilion/country and at the same time you want that country to support you,I personally don't think it makes any sense.

Were isreali soldiers still in GAZA before October 7? I don't think so

They are actually injustice not grievances. That's is their real objective and there had been diplomatic moves since 1948 and the Western powers keeps blocking the moves and whoever lends these people a listening ear. Israel did not honour the UN agreed borderlines and with the support of the west led by US and Britain, she expanded (killing Palestinians and burning their villages) more building more settlements restricting over 10 million people into Gaza and West Bank.

This led to the establishment of armed resistance group like Hamas and PLO, 40 years later. A war they cannot handle? The have been resisting militarily since 1948, the reason why this is popular is because the Hamas did more damage than they ever done before.

Why do we need 4 security barriers between us and a people if we are truthful and just to them and ourselves?

Yeah, on October 7 there was sporadic firing of riffles against civilians, no knife attack was reported, no suicide bombing was reported but there was kidnapping of many Israelis. That's an act of terror and should not be condoned, this is the right thinking. But why don't we think that way when Palestinian children are shot while walking the Gaza street, or condemn the settlers killings of Palestinian families in west bank? Or the kidnapping of Palestinians daily in the Gaza and West Bank by the IDF before Oct 7 which has led to thousands of Palestinians incaserated in Israel? Are they not same human beings ?

The only strict security measure that can bring lasting peace in that region is to give back people's land as recommended by the UN, give back human freedom, give them back their human rights and allow them have their state. Let both Israel and Palestine withdraw back into their respective countries and build their home in peace.

You can't hold a people down and expect peace and security, even animals that we have in farms, we give them freedom sometimes to avoid riot and resistance.

[/b]Israeli IDF soldiers are always in Gaza and West Bank[b] conducting raids, searching family homes, watching every movement and armed to the teeth. Verify this yourself, go on YouTube, read journals, etc

If there is any country or people who wanted to wipe out the Jews, it was Germany. The Palestinians welcome the Jews back to the middle east, a mistake they will forever regret. All they are fighting for and wanted is the self determination, their freedom, their land and state. Give them their land and state and watch every armed resistance die, cos what's there to resist again?

They don't hate Judaist, cos christians are even just 1.6% of the Israeli population, the Muslims amongst them are even more than the christians

seunayantokun:
The evidence on the ground shows the capability of Hamas. Singing Netanyahu's machiavelianism in the war is not i. tandem with reality. All this connection you are helping to relay has not been able to stand in the face of evidence and is only popular among Hamas sympathisers.

What evidence have tried to subject it to?
Point of correction, Civilians sympathizer, and this includes Israeli civilians.

SaLongs1:
The West has been really trying for putting up with this murderous ingrates who are lazily eating and breeding at it's expense yet turning round at the slightest opportunity to attack and bite the very fingers that are feeding it. Tufiakwa!!

These people don't need your food if you didn't take away their lands In the first instance, destroyed their homes, villages to build illegal settlements protected by 25 foot fence with barbed wires restricting them into small prison like spaces within a wall.

seunayantokun:
Hamas uses aides to dig underground holes and tunnels and acquire weapons for use against Israel instead of making life comfortable for Palestinians...spending all against their own peace. Isn't that lunacy?
Israel, please, wipe Hamas out but ensure well-behaved Palestinians are well-taken care of.

Aids dont go to the Palestinians directly, Palestinians Aids go to NGOs and the Israel who administer it by release it in piece meals, also supervise it's application and monitors it.

Palestine is not independent of Israel in any form. Hamas itself is even under 24 hours surveillance and Israeli control.
This makes me believe there is a political reason to that event, Netanyahu may have allowed it to happen to continue in office. I still feels , Hamas couldn't have pull that off on their own on Israeli occupier territory, they simply lack that capacity.

AuthorMan:
What Taquiya has done to you people's brain is pathetic.

You keep singing "Killing Children and Women" as if when Hammas entered Israel and started the killing they were sparing Israeli Children and Women.
Are you saying Israeli Children and Women's lives don't matter?

A sane person. I mean Someone in his right senses seeing all these propaganda will run away far from Islam.

Why can't you guys be sincere for once?

Hammas entered Israel and killed children women and the aged. Anyone they met on their destructive mission and you guys are here labelling Israel as killing children and women.

So, you think Hamas represents the religion Islam because Palestinians are predominantly Muslims and they speak arabic?

These people are not fighting a religious war, all they are fighting for is the same right you enjoy to be on the internet now, to raise their kids without the intrusion of the IDF soldiers badging into their homes at midnight, having Israel ration food supply to them like Prison ration, a State of their own, on their own land, conducting their own elections, and represented in UN , having their embassies with Israel handing off.

No Israeli blockade, no Killing of Palestinians by European Jewish settlers in the west bank, freedom for Gaza to conduct international trade and have their own resources to plan the future for their country.

olayinka63:
Despite all the noise, Israel has not been able to finish Hamas going to 6 months now. Let's assume both Hamas and Israel were given a level playing field, Israel won't be able to contain them. Israel has been receiving funding and military support and yet still continuing the fight.

If the world give Hamas and Israel a level playing young, those Hamas fighters will finish Israel in 2 weeks max.

Despite all the supports, funding, media backing, phosphorus, Jet bombers, tanks, modern riffles, body cams, bullet proof vests, live war theatre cover etc, they have not neutralized 100 Hamas terrorist, and 6 months go soon pass. They are just demolishing buildings in order to take over more lands illegally.

chisomkachy:
https://saharareporters.com/2024/01/26/nigerian-police-didnt-rescue-me-kidnappers-i-paid-ransom-imo-traditional-ruler-ohiri?fbclid=IwAR1OSgdJdkrgyjlfduvlGLhLjYcy-ksNK2pe75xudRi4-VuxDJSLIxQMBT8

Previous Thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/7974548/imo-monarch-eze-ohiri-regains#128012996

Plain and simple. No capping!

NikoDeBonAmi:
These days we see a lot of people saying at a certain age they are suppose to move out of their parents house. We even see were people attack others for still staying with their parents and thinking of marriage.

If your parents have a big and comfortable home were you stay and then you have a good job or flowing business in that same city or town, what is wrong to remain in your parents home and get married there especially when they are very happy for you to always be around them with your own family.

Women don't like it, they won't be comfortable with such arrangement, cos they won't be able to press your mumu button at will.

Is is possible for government to sign an executive order banning all Christian and Muslim religious activities for 50 years?
Let's us just experiment with it and see what we will get out of it.

All mosques and churches converted to factories, warehouses and vocational cum technical training centers.

Let see how it goes. Cos I am tired of seeing this country deploying prayers to solve practical problems

SeeWahala:
Why you no report the ones of your tribesmen? Is it only that post you saw and you didn't like?

😆 true true yoruba no dey ever travel within nigeria sha. Na why una type full the front gate of all the embassy for lagos and Abuja.

Them no dey leave their toilet seats sef. Na only your clan dey enter okada dey go places. Ndi Ara

Ironbull:
And how much did he contributed in Ibadan explosion?

Obi, you will never rule Nigeria in your lifetime.

Donate Nbillion anywhere you want but you see Nigeria you will never rule it.

Ordinary sorry this man did not send to Ibadan people. Same he did when terrorist struck in Owo and killed many ordinary sorry never came out of this man.

Obi will never rule Nigeria never.

If you check the election result in Oyo. He was voted for quite handsomely, I didn't expect the nos he generated in Ibadan.

But he is a tribal leader, he is exposed already. His decision to rule this country is for the bragging rights and protection of Igbo clan interest.

He is not a nationalist, he is a tribalist and a religious segregator, I hope he doesn't rule this country, it will be a disaster. He will set the country on fire and be vengeful.

Islie:
https://thenationonlineng.net/just-in-petrol-prices-to-fall-over-refineries-take-off-says-cardoso/

This Cardoso guy is sound. I read all his analysis, an educated person should be able to understand. It may take a while, but if they are actually doing what he analyzed here and adhere to it, we may start to see changes bit by bit. Cos everything got spoilt bit by bit as well.