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Igbojihadist:
Good morning Nairalanders.

Please I need advice on this. I was given fasting and praying which is supposed to end today but yesterday night i was not feeling alright then I visited a doctor who gave me some medications and placed me on drug, I'm suppose to use some this morning but I'm afraid I might spoil my fasting.

PLS I NEED ADVICE

Una happy sunday

You are a victim of religious rituals.
You will soon die in your ignorance.
The god that requires you to scourge and punish yourself before he can hear you is not the almighty God.
Be free today!!

PeaceJoyLove:
@Igbowoman

"Small small" I beg.

And you even dug out some of his recent old tapes. No need.... a beg. Biko!

I was just talking about these things. That guy in the video actually leaked some of his old videos. These ones are still even not the ones I talked about. These are still nice. The guy too is a blackmailer. He fell out of favor with TB. He told some lies also. I do not believe the beating and the rubbish he said because the marks of beating will be there. If he was beaten like he said, he would show them. Well, na dem sabi wetin brought them together, and wetin separated them. Lol.

What pained me seriously that I stamped his ministry in red was what he did to Kanu. Honestly, if Oyedepo or Adeboye did that to anyone, no matter what anyone tells me, they are both in red. Immediately after Atalanta 1996 after Kanu led the Nigerian Dream team to win gold medal with his 2 outstanding goals against Brazil, Skippo Kanu Nwankwo whom Inter Milan had already signed suddenly showed heart defect during his medicals. Inter Milan treated him so badly. He ran to his church. And what pained me was that his Ministry released an undertaken signed by Kanu. The whole write up was full of grammatical errors just to disgrace Kanu after Kanu left his ministry to another place. The issue pained me. How could TB joshua allow such letter to go public when he himself knew that he started from nothing. That disgrace made Kanu to refine himself too. And I am so happy for Kanu that Arsenal signed him after, and he became bigger. They told Kanu to go straight for heart surgery in the church he later went. He did, and Papilo bounced back. Even, we all didnt know Kanu had even gone to replace again the artificial valve in his heart after many years. Many said Kanu was slow in the field, but Papilo knows the kind heart he has, and God gave him skills to dribble while on a spot, and as tall as he is, he would just pass you magically. Papilo! That great footballer. Papilo. Kanu didnt run with ball too much while he was playing, but his legs are magical. One touch na something else. The whole of his body was a goal that time. Papilo!

But Daniel was so unlucky. When his eyes cleared, no one told him to find his level after serving there. Lol. But thank God for Amakachi's life also.

Well, I will not speak bad or good about TB Joshua, and I will not make comment on whether he is real or not. But one thing is sure, I stamped him red with the way he treated Kanu Nwankwo. Mehn! It pained me seriously that year. Kanu was insulted so much. And parents were even using him as an example of useless kids who didnt go to school. But today, Kanu speaks nice English too. He has a good wife. His children speak with British accent.

But madam, please, no need for this condemnation. We dont need to condemn or praise him. He is gone. Please, no need. Let's just allow him rest. We will all face death too.

Let's forget the sentiments and deal with facts

CharisEleos:
Mehn.. you just took me down memory lane when I used to watch this mans' program in the early 2000. That was before I got born-again but for some reasons, I was never moved by all the drama in his ministry.

I was just laughing watching the video of women holding their private parts.

Na wa o..

That video is a manifestation of what spirit he worked with.
The spirit of God will never make people hold their private parts and act mad and urinate in public and open their legs.
That is a foul spirit.

ThothHermes:
I've been following the topics about him in the past few days and it's amazing how so many people think he was a genuine man.
This is high level demonism. May God deliver everyone who has come in contact with that man and his church. Watching that Emmanuel TV alone is enough to get you demonized.
The vibrations I sense whenever I accidentally stumble on it.
Sheesh.
OP good job.

Anyone with the spirit of God will be repulsed by TB.
Light and darkness do not go together
Anyone not able to discern him is not of God because his sheep hear his voice.

Foolish Africans that think gathering a crowd to entertain them with drama means winning souls to Christ.
How can someone serving the kingdom of darkness win souls to Christ

ifex370:
If you have not won as many souls as he dd, you cannot speak against the man.

Won souls to darkness and filled them with demons.
If he won your soul please go back there and grab it back quick

If there is any Igbo man there please drag him out and give him 2 hot slaps for me

Even if your mother is Igbo and father is from SW please use the wisdom of your mother and sit down in yoir house.allow others to go and protest. Before they accuse you and your mother of something

Abascoh:
No sensible Igbo person should join the back stabbing Yoruba chameleons on any protest. They will only end up betraying igbos and siding with their Fulani masters to attack them. End SARS was not long ago nah, didn't we see the worse kind of chameleonish behavior by Yorubas? They ended up turning it into an "Igbos are destroying Lagos" agenda. The blunt truth is that Igbos will be used as a scapegoat by the army and other security agencies if they join the protest and the Yorubas will turn around and support their Fulani masters in their brutality against Igbos. Every wise igbo person should stay away from any protest that has to do with one Nigeria. Yorubas and other one Nigeria tribes can go and protest for their one Nigeria.

Thank you
Infact any igbo person protesting in the SW should be singled out and slapped on both cheeks

Praise God the SE and SS are calm.
I also hear the NC is calm
To God be all the glory

GreenFarmsNG:
God bless you.

You are highly favoured and blessed.

God bless who raised such a mature Christian soul. I have a lot too say, but time won't permit me.


The oils are usually made with water for waters used two wash human dead bodies, seven, whined with occultic materials before presented as they are. They aren't just made in a room. This oils are made in the occultic coverns and once used demons are assigned too their users as manipulating spirits who in turn report all the activities of the users too their overall supervisor demons. When in services, it's those evil spirits that then relay the information too their supervisor and then took the false prophet who then communicates it in the physical realm, that's what people praise as prophecy



I delivered some Christians from their hands and I had two study them deeply too know how to engage in the warfare. If only their followers who defend them have the depth of Chris Okotie.



And to the clowns who say Okotie's is petty for not speaking when he was alive, Okotie's has been speaking since as far back as 1990. But most of the world didn't follow his evovlement

Bless you too.
Poverty in Africa has made people to latch unto these evil men and women operating with familiar spirits calling themselves pastors and prophets but the bible warned about them.
Sadly Africans don't even bother reading their bibles to know truth from error.
They want prophecies and strange occurences and native doctors have rebranded to give them what they want.

donnie:
I repeat, stay away from that June12 protest if you're Igbo or look Igbo. There are plans to use you as scapegoat.

My people are wise.
Its like the scam called subsidy protests, Igbo towns went about their normal business.
Abiola himself was a criminal who sponsored coups and died in the hands of his friends.
Go and find the fela song international tif tif
He sang about Abiola

His former security man exposes his evil deeds.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159589826941639&id=561096638

If you ever received oil ,water or any products from this native doctor or visited his shrine, I pray you be delivered in Jesus name.
The videos you see above tell you the sexual and other foul demons he deposited into you and multiplied your problems.
He operated from the realm of darkness.
May the Lord open your eyes of understanding so you can see.

2 Cor 11 Amplified

13 For such men are counterfeit apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

14 And no wonder, since Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

15 So it is no great surprise if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, but their end will correspond with their deeds.

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The real TB native doctor unleashing foul spirit on females before he polished up his image to deceive even the elect.

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Before he rebranded.See how he made especially women act crazy.They grab their private parts and expose their unclothedness at the influence of his demons

God punish buhari and his killers

When it comes to deception, he was the master of it. I kid you not.

When it comes to cunning craftiness, no one came close to him among the false prophets that have walked the soil of Africa. This is the reason why some who have been my friends in this space are going to be jolted by my writing of him.

His deceptive activities escaped the eagle eye of many well meaning Christians who claim to fight deception and manipulation in the church.

When it comes to branding, or what is called "packaging" in colloquial parlance, he simply carried the cake . In spite of the fact that he was poorly lettered, his ability to evolve, to package and repackage himself to a sellable brand appears to be second to none on this divide of the Sahara.

Many of his followers and admirers will fight "tooth and nail" to prove he was a prophet sent by God. No surprises. By the kind of grip he had and still has on them, they are unable to think otherwise. They will, as a matter of fact, fight anyone who thinks their prophet was false.

By the way, when it comes to the supernatural, TB Joshua was one man who operated in it. He didn't just start "yesterday". No! When he was operating from a shrine like a voodoo priest or an unmistakable native doctor back in the days, the supernatural attended to him. At the time, he did not pretend to be a Christian. He was just doing his own thing and attracted his own kind. For those who started following him less than 20 years ago, what you knew was a well repackaged TB Joshua. At the time you knew him, he had been transformed and repackaged to appeal to the larger Christian community. When he did, his acceptability soared significantly.

It is not as if we haven't seen Voodoo priests who got transformed after an encounter with Christ Jesus before. Hoardes of them have come to know Christ. But when they do, they would clearly renounce the past and expose such works of darkness. No serious minded Christian will argue against this position. No one that I know could tell when TB Joshua had an encounter with Christ. Ask him when he met Christ and he would tell you it was from his mother's womb. This does not sound like someone who knew the first things about the Christian faith.

All we saw was that he transformed and started running what was called a church. Should anyone know or have any evidence of him renouncing darks arts openly, he should please send us a link to prove it. We shall be waiting for it.

During his transition, he was one of those few "prophets" who popularised what was popularly called Chrislam (a mixture of Christianity and Islam). This should not be surprising because he was a Muslim by birth. He used Qur'anic citations copiously and Bible verses scantily and engaged in all sorts of native rituals to initiate spiritual phenomena in his meetings. Some of my readers might not have heard of "Chrislam" before. He practiced it openly. It was televised for a while back in the days when he was still learning the ropes.

However, this coincided with the period Penticostal movement was gaining traction and sweeping across the continent of Africa in the mid-late 90s. And as a smart man that he was, he knew the practice of Chrislam would not gain a wide acceptance. He quickly changed from wearing Jalabiya to wearing three-piece suits and carrying Bible in the late 90s.

Have you ever wondered why he had no obvious close interactions with the Penticostal papas and the "who-is-who" in the charismatic circle in Nigeria and Africa at large? It was largely because many of them knew the history of how he evolved and they couldn't point to anytime that he renounced his dark arts. Do I blame them? No , I don't! Did anyone of them call him out? Very few did. Arguably, the most prominent among them was pastor Chris Okotie. Details of what transpired is outside the scope of this write-up.

Paul wrote:

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
2 Corinthians 11:14‭-‬15 KJV

Time and space would fail me to chronicle all the tactics that TB Joshua employed to gain prominence and become the darling of many churchgoers. However, I will attempt to enumerate a few.

1. The supernatural: Most humans are gullible when they see supernatural happenings. They don't care where it comes from. Believers in Christ are also not spared. They lower their guards. They tend to think that all supernatural phenomena are from God. This is why many "babalawos" who are capable of a few magical acts and who could see spiritual phenomena now wear jackets and carry Bibles. I can tell you for free that there are many sorcerers who currently operate churches today, having crowds of worshippers following..... They even preach in the name of Jesus.

In Acts 8 from verse 9, Simon the sorcerer was not actually known as a sorcerer until Philip showed up in Samaria with the gospel of Christ. He was popularly known as "the great power of God". He amazed the entire city with magic. He was a wonder to behold. Both small and great in the city of Samaria ate from his palms. The true gospel brings light and exposes darkness. The fact that this truth about TB Joshua was hidden to many, including christocentric believers, suggests to me that something is amiss with our gospel.

2. The media: One of the ways TB Joshua warmed his way into the hearts of many Christians was through the generous use of the media. Only a few men could compete with the synagogue when it comes to using the power of the media to shape or launder the image of TB Joshua. The propaganda was intentional and well calculated. He knew that people love to see dramatic manifestations. Hence, aggressively, he televised deliverance manifestations and healing sessions, some of which he had with celebrities (who are natural influencers and image makers) that he had intentionally invited over to come receive healings.

Many cases of televised and celebrated healing at the synagogue eventually died quietly in their various homes and countries of abode. There were cancer and HIV/AIDS patients who abandoned treatment after an acclaimed healing at the synagogue only to die few weeks later. However, TB Joshua already televised their healings and "took the shine". Some of these things made it to the media but their voices were drowned in the larger-than-life image of the prophet. If you did not know this, then, you have not been paying attention.

Furthermore, I am a medical practitioner and quite a number of my patients have had contact with the synagogue. The manipulation and the deception were real. I know patients who were deceived that they were healed, asked to drop their medications and then, they relapsed.

Should I also talk about his failed prophesies? I could count 5 among them straight up but I think it won't be necessary. I have come to terms with the fact that many who are firmly in the grip of false prophets often give excuses for their failed prophesies as against biblical injunction that asked us to call them out as false.

3. Philanthropy: I have seen TB Joshua made a show of charity in a manner that is unparalleled in religious circles. For the undiscerning, it would be enough to capture their hearts and excuse all his shenanigans. Many Christians have fallen flat for this. while charity works is laudable as far as the Christian faith is concerned, there's a "how" to it. Jesus rebuked the religious leaders of his days for making a show of charity works. But today, we celebrate them.

“Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly.
Matthew 6:1‭-‬4 NKJV

In my view, there are clear red flags any believer in Christ can pick so as to not fall for falsehood carefully disguised as truth. There are basic things we should not have to keep reminding a believer in Christ. This is one of them. Personally, I take good gestures done for the optics with a pinch of salt. They are simply done for personal aggrandisement. I did not say so. Jesus said so.

4. Modesty: when stacked up against the ostentatious lifestyle of the bigwigs in church circles, the modest demeanor of TB Joshua could hold you spell-bound. For a man who was an institution of some sort; who single-handedly attracted so much businesses and foreigners to the Ikotun-Egbe axis of Lagos state and turned it to a Mecca of some sort, seeing video clips of him relating with the poor and the disabled and carrying out menial works around his church premises would naturally endear you too him. By so doing, TB Joshua won the admiration of many. However, what many forget is that all these things were done for the optics. Otherwise, cameras should not have been be there to start with. Jesus said:
“Be careful of false prophets. They come to you and look gentle like sheep. But they are really dangerous like wolves.
Matthew 7:15 ICB.

These four things that I enumerated above are among the factors that have shielded TB Joshua from both public scrutiny and spiritual discernment by believers. By the way, you could hardly catch him teach what one can call a controversial or false doctrine because, practically, when it comes to doctrine, he taught nothing. He only played to the gallery, Saying a few good words here and there. You could not be a child of God who is truly hungry for God's word and sit under his ministration for long.

Additionally, there are a number of scandalous things about TB Joshua but I will not go there. It is not my call. I stick with the basics or the fundamentals. You can wait for the next few weeks or months when people who had been afraid to talk about their personal experiences when he was alive would show up with their tales. Never forget that some in the past brought up their accusations but they were carpeted. The man TB Joshua was too powerful, influencial and connected in this country to not influence the justice system. He probably would have gone the way of the notorious Reverend King.

Now, to those among us who think it is uncharitable to write about the dead, I do not share your sentiment one bit. I don't know where you got such an idea from. Check your Bible. The books of Chronicles and Kings simply chronicled the life and time of men and women, whether they did well and goofed. The book of judges did the same thing about the prophets and judges. Why have you not challenged the Bible writers for writing about the dead? I do not understand this philosophical nonsense of not talking about the dead. It is rooted in nothing but deception and patently hypocritical. Besides, we see some of you write teachings making references to Paul, Judas Iscariot, Philip, Stephen, Ahab etc from the Bible. How come you did not feel it's uncharitable to write about them? Are they not dead? Additionally, I do not believe in deodorising the dead. Death does not confer sainthood on anyone. If you were not a saint while alive, you would not be one when you are gone. Let's get over this business.

There are also people who think they can blackmail us into an ungodly silence by saying "let the dead rest". I would not know the meaning of such a statement. How are we keeping your dead restless? I'm sometimes inclined to ask where people get all these things from.

Furthermore, there are people who suddenly remember the word "compassion" when their favourite idol dies? Personally, I do not think they actually know the meaning of compassion. If they knew, they would be shouting at rooftops to deliver people who are trapped in satanic enclaves carefully disguised as house of God. They would be concerned for all the "Peters" that have been robbed to pay "Paul" in a showmanship disguised as charity works. They would be concerned for people who have lost their personal freedom because they signed up to be disciples of a prophet somewhere. They would be concerned for families who have lost their children to a religious organisation that had an uncanny hold on their lives. They would be concerned for those families who have lost their wards to sicknesses due to deceptive and manipulative practices of their prophet who wanted to make a name for himself.

And to those of you who would want to threaten me with death, your threats carry no weight. Zil! It's even borne of complete ignorance and lack of insight on your part. Everyone dies! Your prophet just died for crying out loud. It's a sign you were poorly taught by your prophet. You are in no position to threaten no one. Besides, have you heard of eternal life before? A man in Christ is not afraid of death. Selah!

Friends, I have taken time to document my unpopular position to raise an awareness that there are false prophets among us who are being celebrated as angels of light. This time, I am not talking about people who have testimonies of conversion but along the line got entangled in false teachings. Rather, I'm talking about those who never met with Christ, and who never changed their ways but changed their garments to appear like angels of light. I'm talking about those who use dark arts to hold worshippers spell-bound. I'm writing about those who learn Christian clichés and demeanor to appear like sheep while, inwardly, they are ravenous wolves. They are everywhere, all over the world and all over the continent of Africa. They are in Nigeria. They run an inner caucus reminiscent of a brutal master-servant relationship. While they win awards as deliverers all over the world, they are real time captors of many in their enclaves.

May God deliver their captives. May the light of God shine bright in them so they can find true freedom that is in Christ Jesus.

Amen.

Before you get it twisted, I did not hate TB Joshua. It is my hope that he eventually met with Christ before he passed to the great beyond. So, kindly spare me your "judge not" mantra. I am a firm believer in the fact that there will be surprises in heaven. Afterall, the thief on the cross made a decision for Christ in his last few minutes of life.

However, I am not a friend of deception in any form. "Have nothing to do with the fruitless work of darkness; rather expose them" (Ephesians 5:11)

It is a new day!

NINYO.

nairalandankrah:
Buhari has a history of not fulfilling promises..

The igbos know this, That's why the entire south east and south south rejected him during the general elections..

To hell with your fake promises, Give them a referendum.

Can we see a video of the mumu saying these things.
Who is he trying to deceive?
Looks like a new PR firm has taken over to say what they think people want to hear.
Man wey im heart dey like charcoal

The same man that told us that a fight against boko haram is a fight against the north?
Buhari is the person that sponsored boko haram and they named him as their spokesman while GEJ was president.
Believe these lies he is spewing and believe anything .
He is saying what people want to hear.
The intelligent people amongst the 200million are not deceived

Olatomiwami:
But he said every state govt should take the responsibility of providing safety for his state, don't u think he is right? Forget been hateful on him, are our useless governors doing enough? They rather pocket the security votes than for the safety it was meant for, will he from Abuja take care of the states? We are just docile, pure and simple.

He is as useless as they are if not more.
I have no reason to hate him, I dont know him, I see him in pictures just like you do.
He cannot be passing blames. The buck stops with him.He is the president .
He made us a promise that he will tackle boko haram but now he wants state governments to take over?
He cannot even come out to condemn his fulani killers in strong language.
Please don't excuse this idiotic terrorist government that has recruited boko haram into the military and sent them on killing sprees.
How many herdsmen have been prosecuted?
Please tell us
Nonsense!

rainluv:
So what's your business with that?
Did anyone disturb you with their legion of demons?

Face front biko

See as u dey manifest and I never shout faya

rainluv:
So what's your business with that?
Did anyone disturb you with their legion of demons?

Face front biko

See as u fey manifest and I never shout faya

Ode.
It looks like this current version of buhari sniffs drugs and speaks.
The nation is boiling with killings everywhere and he is talking of achievements.

Tuberculosis Josh
After deceiving and killing people with fake miracle water and fake adulterated oil that did nothing for them.
If any of you used his products or visited his shrine, you ought to cry out to God to deliver you from the legion of demons released into you

This FFK sef
Comparing him to a market woman is an insult to market women.
Very pathetic person
Now we know where he acquired the demons disturbing him
From SCOAN

The leader of the Presidential delegation stated that one of the issues is the farmers/ herders conflict which, he said will “be given the necessary accord to stop this menace all over the country, from the perspective of national interest”.

These people are foolish.
This is a calculated fulani total onslaught in the whole of Southern Nigeria and Christian North .Killings sanctioned by the FGN and buhari and they call it a conflict?
The boko haram army is killing and giving protection to the fulani killers

Shatap!!
Always trying to distract us from your non performance

I am sick of hearing this man's name.
Nairaland please help me for I am a loyal poster.
Stop mentioning the name of this fulani goat

May it be unto you according to your words

May God disgrace him utterly!!