European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:07pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
elampiro: All DDG saves last night were regular saves that even West Ham, Everton, Chelsea, Spurs keepers make. Only one was exceptional and may be another keeper could have saved it.
Henderson could be better than DDG if given a long run of games. DDG was worse when he first arrived. At one point he was being rotated by SAF.
Henderson mistake is that he comes out too much while he is yet to perfect the act. He neess many games and experience to do that. But he is better than DDG in area balls and box command Regular saves? How are those saves regular saves? Without De Gea this season, United would be in -20(Goals difference). It’s insulting to be comparing a serial winner like De Gea to a quack like Henderson. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:05pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
andrewbaba44: When last did you win the epl with all the money you have spent ?
Useless club The focus is on your useless club. La liga is basically a 2 horse race and somehow, you are a bïtch to Real Madrid. It’s Madrid with 34 La Liga titles to Barca’s 26. My club is the most successful in Britain, your club isn’t even the most successful in Spain. Useless club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:58pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
andrewbaba44: Sacking velverde was never a downfall ,no come here Dey cap because I support velverde
Bartomeu was the downfall of Barca and not the sacking of velverde
No be everybody go be like Man U wey never win epl for 8 seasons  What have you won since sacking Valverde? Useless club! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:47pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
andrewbaba44: We will not laugh him for the fact that velverde used to school Madrid ,he even beat Madrid 5-1 without Messi 
Dude was only useless at the champions league ,Laliga was like his birthright  Sacking him began your downfall as a big club. It will take another 7 years for you guys to find the right path. Welcome to 7 years of drought. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:35pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
Joezinho: Barca won 2 league titles in the past 5 seasons and they were both under Valverde. He had them top of the league when he was sacked and they went on to lose the title.
The sacking of Valverde was essentially a deflection tactic to mask the mismanagement of the club. Valverde has pedigree and he would bleach out the rot in the squad. The likes of Shaw and Maguire would run to the media again that they are being bullied. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:34pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
BARAJ92: You never can tell, Henderson also won't commit the error by Dr Gea and he would organise his defence better. Like he did when Liverpool pumped United 2-4 at Old Trafford last season. Henderson couldn’t even organize his position. Organize defence better, my foot!
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:42pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
Devvy4: Even barka fans will laugh at you for writing this Barca fans are entitled prícks. They only worship Pep. This is what Valverde did to 3Peat Madrid(arguably the best team in Europe).
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:10pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
hoopLA: Lmao. Saint Obi doesn't insult players. You mean Elampiro is Saint Obi(the legendary Nollywood actor)??  Elampiro, come outside.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:44pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
Android17: I am showing Tuchel's achievements in Germany have no bearing on Poch's in England. Tottenham is a more difficult proposition than Dortmund. That is not to say Tuchel is not better, I am saying we did not have that evidence before last season. You were not on this thread when people wanted Mourinho fired, it was almost unanimous how United fans here did not want Tuchel. I know some people here (Bayern fans) tried to show United fans that Pep recommended Tuchel to replace him at Bayern but the board felt he was a little too insubordinate and opinionated for them. But the United fans would not have it. You are erroneously assuming that the majority of the United fans on this thread have common sense, that’s not the case. The majority supported Ole through 3 years of failure and they were convinced he was an upgrade on the previous manager until last month. That they didn’t want Tuchel when Jose was fired should tell you all you need to know about their general intelligence. You can not rely on their general consensus as a yardstick. The Ole saga should have told you how they think. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:40pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
nitrogen: Valverde is okay for the interim role or a one year contract. Let’s do trial and error to win trophies abeg. Valverde will come cheap and even if he is expensive, he will accept a one year contract which means if things don’t work, he gets the sack easily.
We need to change our strategy abeg. Valverde is a winner, I want him. Barca fans didn’t like him because his possession stats wasn’t as good as what they were used to but he got them good results for most parts. This dude is a winner.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On Nov 24, 2021 |
elampiro: His anticipation and concentration were highlighted in United’s goal – when Fred pounced from Villarreal goalkeeper Geronimo Rulli’s short pass out to force the defensive error and bring about Ronaldo’s goal.
It was a similar story for Jadon Sancho's late second - when Fred broke up the opposition's play to produce the goal. ....
The guy that is always insulted See pot calling kettle black. You have insulted De Gea too. Without his multiple saves to keep United in the game, United could have easily lost to Villareal last night. There’s no way your local idol(Henderson) was making any of those instinctive saves had he started. Like I said, all these fine margins are very important and they decide who wins or who loses. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:05am On Nov 24, 2021*. Modified: 2:04am On Nov 24, 2021 |
Android17: The period Tuchel did not win a league title in Germany, Ranieri was winning too. Who is better today? Tuchel was how old in Germany? Ranieri was how old when Tuchel started his managerial career? How did Ranieri even enter this argument. I thought the discourse was Poch vs Tuchel?? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:55pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
raumdeuter: No Peps team that was inherited was no better than Utd team that Mourinho inherited Many claimed Pep inherited the best team in the league, today we are hearing Spurs was the best team in the league Who claimed so? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:21pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
elampiro: You know ball for here You are just realizing?  Fred went on to press high and he won the ball for Ronaldo to drop the ball into an empty net. Imagine if he was on the bench in that passage of play. His replacement could never have pressed that high. These little margins are the difference between winning or losing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:14pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Illimitable: Bruno has created the most chances in the PL/CL this season.
It’s a big call to drop him but then he can always be brought in if things don’t go according to plans.
I am backing Sancho to break his duck today.
Let’s goooooooo I am too good at this shït. Easy money at BetFair. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:11pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
patrickmuf: De Gea is awesome...Keeping us in the game. Yet some people prefer Henderson. Henderson? I hope he gets sold to Norway. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:03pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Anthony Martial has to be the most useless player in history.
At least, with McFred, we know they lack the ability. Martial has everything(pace, dribbling ability, technique, finishing ability) and he somehow fails at them.
I can’t wait to see the back of him. In terms of wasted potential, Martial could be the worst in the history of the game. I am yet to see anyone with his ability but without a significant output. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:46pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Oasis007: Matic should come in for Fred in the 2nd half. Matic coming in would lose the game for us. Keep Fred. Replace VDB(yellow card) with Bruno. Replace the lazy French with Rashford. This is a winnable game. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:41pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This was the season people claimed Man City had the best team and Pep inherited the best team in the league Who said Pep inherited the best team in the league? Pep inheriting a better team than United = Pep inherited the best team in the league? You can do better than this. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:36pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Ernesto Valverde is now the front runner. At least, he’s much better than Poch.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:31pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: Poch coached Español and Tottenham same time. Forgive him for not winning. This is Poch's first full season with PSG and he will win the league for sure. Tuchel is currently ahead of Poch but not by much and time will tell. Ranieri coached Leicester in that period and he won. It’s an excuse that Poch couldn’t win at least a Carling cup with Spurs. Wigan, Birmingham, Portsmouth, etc have all defied the odds to win with fewer talents. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:23pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
slimghost: Zidane started his first team management career in 2016 while Poch started around 2009 or so. Dunno who is the apprentice here. You are entitled to your choice but I’d stick with a prove EPL manager than a one hit wonder manager. Ladan Bosso would have won trophies with that Madrid side. There is a reason he is not keen on coming to United while Poch is. Seems one trusts in his own abilities while the other seems to trust the players; reason he is hell bent on going to PSG. What did he win as a proven EPL manager. Maybe we should sign Steve Bruce or Roy Hodgson too cos they are proven PL managers with 1000 games each. We are talking about managers who have won big trophies in their careers and you people are mentioning a serial loser like Poch. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:54pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Oasis007: Carrick: "I love Bruno, he's a fantastic player, great person. Ran his socks off but there's a team to be picked." Bruno has created the most chances in the PL/CL this season. It’s a big call to drop him but then he can always be brought in if things don’t go according to plans. I am backing Sancho to break his duck today. Let’s goooooooo |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:46pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
nitrogen: You are right. Bailly is on the bench. I really want Maguire to sit out some games. Maguire is the captain. He cannot sit on the bench when he isn’t injured. You have to take the arm band away from him first before he can sit regularly on the bench. Whether Carrick has the mettle to demote Maguire is another issue. The damage Ole has done to this club by giving Maguire the armband would take years to clean up. I am reading now that Ronaldo is so shocked at the level of indiscipline under Ole. Issues like players reporting to training late, some players not showing up at all and they still get picked to start games week in week out. Players knew there’s no consequence for their indiscipline. Solskjaer’s unthreatening character plus his loser mentality means players knew they could get away with such unprofessionalism. Meanwhile, the British media are convinced Ole has left the club in a much better state than he met it. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:40pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Expert17: Can you criticize your family friend of over 15 years openly??
It's not that easy. He can ignore the topic or question totally. What he cannot do is to do lie that he’s doing a good job when the results say otherwise. Gary Neville is paid to give unbiased opinions. If he puts his friendship before his professionalism then Neville is a dishonest pig. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:33pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: Well, Poch has done so with weaker THFC. Tuchel had won in Germany, Poch won nothing Tuchel won league titles in PSG, Poch failed to win it. There’s no way you can compare Poch to Tuchel. Tuchel is several tiers above Poch in everything. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:27pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
hoopLA: Boss I'm not sure that's how it happened. Eva had the skirmish with Jose on the first day of the season and was demoted about a month later or so if my memory serves me correctly. That was how I remembered it too, Boss. Chelsea never recovered from the Eva saga.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:25pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
ChristoBam: They had injury problems. Just like an injury to Kante and Mahrez would have ended Leicester. Btwn who built the team that were struggling for Europa league spot to the 'best team in the league'? With little budget o Which injury problems? Poch is a failure, there were no injury problems when they allowed Leicester to win the league. Poch just bottled it like he did throughout his stay in England. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:18pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: that is the point. Nobody knew Tuchel could until he was given a chance. The same Tuchel that reached the CL final with PSG a season before? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:17pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: No THFC were not the best team in 15/16. On paper, it was Chelsea (they had just won the league 14/15). Pochettino’s young team lost their heads and let Leicester catch them. But so did United, City and Arsenal that finished 2nd. Chelsea were out of the race by the time Eva Carneiro was demoted. Mourinho got sacked as early as December. United had LVG. The target was to finish top 4. No one expected LVG to win any thing that season. Pellegrini was also out of sorts that year. The rumors that Pep was already lined up to take over from him didn’t help his motivation. Poch had the most experience of any PL manager in the top 6 then apart from the calamitous Arsene Wenger who hadn't won the league in 12 years. Wenger had said finishing top 4 was the same as winning the league so he wasn’t in any title race. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:12pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: No. PSG is a big problem. Even Tuchel said it. They expect you to be the Sports Prefect. Tuchel would tell Neymar he is not allowed to travel to Brazil for his sister's birthday party. Neymar will still go. When Tuchel inquires why, he will be told that Leonardo or someone from the higher ups gave Neymar the go-ahead. Tuchel said you have to cater to not just the stars but those around them. If Neymar Snr could not get a hard-on the previous night, Tuchel had to call to recommend ED medicine because if Neymar Snr is unhappy, Neymar Jnr won't play well. Managing superstars is not for everyone and it does not help when the owners enable the superstars. Come on. Tuchel later came to Chelsea and proved his mettle by winning the CL without a single signing. Poch could never. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:05pm On Nov 23, 2021 |
Android17: It is easier for the 2nd best team in Germany to win the German cup than it is for Southampton to or Espanyol to win anything in England and Spain. Spurs had the best team in the PL in 15/16. The other top clubs seem to be rebuilding or changing managers. Ranieri came from nowhere in his debut at Leicester to beat Pochettino’s Spurs to a title. |