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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:09pm On Dec 09, 2021
eph12:
Even Salah. You can't easily shrug him off the ball
Salah is a bully.

I doubt he’s ever lost any duel or 50-50 tussle with an opponent. He must win the ball no matter what. He looks short but he’s so thick.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:28pm On Dec 09, 2021
Oasis007:
Rangnick: "I am not so much worried about his technical level but we need to develop him mentally and physically for him to become the strongest version of himself."
Greenwood needs to enter the gym and bulk up. The natural ability is there but he’s physically hopeless. He needs to get in shape like Mbappe or Haaland to become a modern day centre forward.

Successful modern day strikers are physical monsters(Lewandowski, Ronaldo, Benzema, Suarez, Kane, Mbappe, Lukaku) - their physique enables them to go pound for pound against towering monsters like Bonucci and Chiellini. Someone like Greenwood would get eaten up by the Italian defenders no matter what he does.

The physique of a striker is becoming increasingly important in modern day football. The talent and the technique are not enough if he’s going to the get to the very top. Dude needs to leave Manchester chics alone for now, get into the gym and become a freak.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:40pm On Dec 08, 2021
olabode89:
How did we decide to pay £45M for a limited fullback like AWB? His decision making is resoundingly atrocious.
Ole scouted 804 professional full backs in Europe and he decided Wan-Bissaka was the best candidate out of the lot.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:37pm On Dec 08, 2021
olabode89:
So you mean Van Nistelrooy, Stam and Forlan didn't make it as footballers?

Playing around 250 games for two teams that were perennial top 4 teams in England during that period is a solid football career.
How many caps do the aforementioned players have for their respective national teams?

Now compare to Welbeck…..

Arsenal weren’t a perennial top 4 team when Welbeck joined them. Stop capping.

With the promises and resources given to Welbeck to succeed as a local boy, he was a massive disappointment.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:31pm On Dec 08, 2021
olabode89:
You think Welbeck didn't make it? Man played around 250 games combined for United and Arsenal and scored about 50 goals. That's a solid football career without taking into account his 42 caps and 16 goals for England.
If he made it, he wouldn’t have been sold to Arsenal. He would have retired as a United legend.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:19pm On Dec 08, 2021
This Elanga will never make it.

He’s another Danny Welbeck in the making.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:09pm On Dec 08, 2021
Oasis007:
Matic is another monumental foòl. Hope this is his last Session, same as Mata.
Matic is playing as a make shift CB
MATA hasn’t put a foot wrong.

The forwards could have scored with the chances they had and put this out of reach for YB but they all fluffed their lines.

All of them should be sent on loan.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:50pm On Dec 08, 2021
Barca to Europa league.

How the mighty have fallen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:45pm On Dec 08, 2021
This Henderson is just crap.

He should have saved that. The trajectory of the shot wasn’t far away from him. He didn’t move his feet quickly enough to save that shot.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:44pm On Dec 07, 2021
Most goals scored for club & country in 2021 by players in Europe's top five leagues:

◎ Robert Lewandowski (66)
◎ Kylian Mbappé (47)
◉ Erling Haaland (47)

Haaland has played only 48 games.

I would build Rangnick a statue in Yaba if he brings Haaland to United next summer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:34pm On Dec 07, 2021
Oasis007:
Rangnick: "If I look back at Palace I don't think we lacked energy. Obviously first half hour was almost perfect, the way we pressed all over the pitch. Didn't expect it on that level."
The players have been Ragnified.

Just look at the successful pressures against Palace in comparison to the previous games this season. We had 55 against Palace.

A successful pressure is defined as when possession is regained within five seconds of applying pressure.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:24pm On Dec 07, 2021
BikeMan:
Why are you crying like you bought land here? Does repeating something make it true, where is your source Oga?
It’s because your nuisance value is starting to stink up the whole place.

Why don’t you emulate the intelligent ones in your thread and keep your stupidity to a minimum? All you do everyday is come here and pollute it with meaningless bants that doesn’t advance any logical or intellectual discourse.

Why are you so determined to be famous by being foolish? I am going to post the evidence you are desperate to see and I hope, for everyone concerned, you can take your stupidity back to where you crawled out from.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:34pm On Dec 07, 2021
BikeMan:
When you make a statement like this, you will need to drop your reliable source.
Chelsea contacted him in January and he turned Chelsea down.

How many times do we have to repeat that here? You seem so insecure to be arguing about a new United manager. If you are confident in yourself, you won’t be disputing whether Chelsea wanted Rangnick or not.

You people leave your accursed thread to start meaningless arguments on the United space. What is it? Don’t you people have any joy in your own space? You are European champions, close to the top of the league - go and enjoy the moment and leave Rangnick alone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:16pm On Dec 05, 2021
Searchingvictor:
Eph cheesy
This must be EPH. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:06pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
You lie too much
2019/20 Man Utd spent 211M Pounds
2020/21 Man Utd spent 78M Pounds
2021/22 Man Utd spent 126M Pounds

Ole alone spent 412M Pounds
Why are you counting 21/22 when no one has won anything yet. You have to count seasons that have been completed and we know who’s won what.

Ole’s purchases are from January 2019 till January 2021.

Even if we add up this summer to Ole’s spent, it is still a far cry to the lie you made initially that United have outspent Man City since 2016.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:03pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Mourinho also inherited players at Man Utd and failed miserably with them earning him a sack.
Which players did he inherit? How have the players fared since Mourinho left?


raumdeuter:
When Mourinho was at the peak of his powers, he was going to top clubs like Chelsea, Madrid not the likes of Roma and Spurs. Signs of a finished coach
Ancelotti coached Napoli, Everton and he’s now back in Madrid.

Your comment is devoid of logic.


raumdeuter:
The lies you tell yourself, Mourinho is at Roma because only clubs at that level are calling him, top clubs do not want him anymore. Its like saying a student rejected UNILAG but went to Taraba Poly because he wanted to.
There are many reasons a student would reject UNILAG for Taraba Poly. It was well documented that Madrid approached Mourinho twice but he said he had already signed a contract with Roma and he’s a man of his word.

raumdeuter:
Yet a coach like Pep has never been sacked, He is in a league battling the top coaches in th world week after week and winning titles, Something Mourinho has failed at and got sacked for.
He wasn’t sacked at City because Pep himself said City were a small club. Pep finished trophyless in his debut season at City and he confessed any of the big European clubs would have sacked him with his pathetic run of results.

That a child wasn’t punished for failing an exam doesn’t remove the fact that he failed. You don’t get any extra credits for not getting sacked. Ancelotti has more CL titles than Pep, he’s been sacked 14 times.

SAF is a far more successful manager than Pep, he has a sack history in his resume as well. I don’t really rate people who base a manager’s brilliance on his sack history. You can only look at what he’s achieved.

There’s nothing Pep has achieved that his successors haven’t bettered. He won a treble at Barca, Luis Enrique replicated the achievement.

Pep couldn’t get Bayern a CL final in 3 full seasons, Hansi Flick(PE teacher/caretaker) did it with style and grace by winning a treble.

Porto are still begging God to play in a CL semifinal after Mourinho took them there and won it in 2004. Inter have sought the help of all deities to give them a CL semifinal since Mourinho won them a TREBLE in 2010.

Mourinho’s achievements aren’t easily replicated because he overachieves. Pep just continues a trend. He’s never managed a game where he’s an underdog in his career because he chooses the richest teams in the league to manage.

Your idol is a FRAUD!!! tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:47pm On Dec 05, 2021
Oasis007:
Rangnick: "I must admit I was surprised [by Manchester United performance]. I was a bit surprised, because not only did we play Thursday, a late kick-off, we had two days less to recover compared to Crystal Palace."
I heard Rangnick said Fred and McTominay were perfect.

It’s looking like McFred would be with us for a long time.

Who is their herbalist?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:43pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Since Pep joined City, your club Man Utd has outspent him yet your club is where? Winning which titles?
You lie too much to be taken seriously.

Pep has spent £928m at Man City

Mourinho spent £419m
Solskjaer spent £314m.

Pep has spent around £200m more than the 2 Man Utd managers combined. And this was a manager that inherited 6 world class players at City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:34pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Since Pep joined City, your club Man Utd has outspent him yet your club is where? Winning which titles?
This is a big lie. City have spent way more money than United since Pep joined and I have already established that Pep actually benefitted more from the players he inherited than the ones he bought.

Every manager hired by the Abu Dhabi group since they arrived in 2008 has won the PL title - including Pellegrini that is now considered finished after managing West Ham for a while. Any manager in City would do well, it’s almost impossible to fail as a manager at City.

raumdeuter:
Mourinho is at Roma because he is finished and his stock is at the lowest. Roma has backed him with signings yet they are getting worse. EVen in UEFA conference league the competition for rejects he is still struggling with clubs whose names cant be pronounced.
Mourinho is at Roma cos he wanted to. Real Madrid begged him twice to return to Madrid before they settled for Ancelotti. One has to be incredibly stupid to think Ancelotti that finished 10th at Everton has a higher stock than Mourinho that finished 7th with Spurs.

raumdeuter:
Mourinho loves the EPL so much but he has been fired by almost half the top clusb there. He found solace at Roma where he is still getting battered left and right. 50% win rate
I marvel every time people talk about sacking record as a stain. Ancelotti has been sacked 14 times. Who gives a fück about sack? Managers are replaceable employees. I’d rather a manager that isn’t afraid of trying than the ones that wait to get a posh job where it’s almost impossible to fail.

Mancini won PL with City
Pellegrini won PL with City

Why should it be different for Pep after he got handed £1 billion?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:22pm On Dec 05, 2021
In the games we are expected to defend, AWB would be useful but everyone with brains criticized Ole back then with his stubbornness to start AWB in every game.

If you are playing 2 DMs, there’s no reason to have a highly defensive AWB in the defence, Dalot should have played way more games for Ole.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:15pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
One thing everyone knows that its never Mourinhos fault, Its always the players, the FA, the weather, the club owner, the economy that is wrong never Mourinho

Has Mourinho been choosing the wrong clubs ever since? Mourinho is currently 6th with a 50% win rate in Italy. 25 points in 16 games

The same reason he was sacked at his last 4 jobs for being a football dinosaur with zero progressive ideas

Pep is currently top of the league table where he coaches, Ancelotti is top, Mourinho is 6th.

Bayern was begging Pep for an extension after 3yrs, when was the last time Mourinho got to 3 seasons without a sack letter waiting for him
Pep is top of the league in a club where he’s been given £1 billion pound worth of assets on players.

Ancelotti is top of the league in Real Madrid - the most successful team in Europe.

Mourinho is 6th in a club that finished 7th before he arrived and a club that haven’t won the league in 20 years.

Why didn’t you ask Ancelotti to win the league with Everton last season when he finished 10th? Ancelotti at 10th isn’t finished by any means but Mourinho improving the position he found Roma is finished.

#Logic101
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:33pm On Dec 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Mourinho is finished but his cult followers won't accept
Is Ancelotti finished?

The gist was that he was finished at Napoli and Everton. He’s currently on 76% win rate at Madrid, he’s top of the league with 2 losses in 21.

You anti-Mourinho infidels sometimes need to see the problem for a manager is just choosing the wrong club to manage.

Roma last won Serie A 20 years ago. They finished 7th last season but somehow Mourinho was supposed to make them champions overnight.

Meanwhile, Pep that inherited a TREBLE winning Bayern isn’t finished for failing to at least get a final in 3 seasons.

#Logic101
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:21pm On Dec 05, 2021
Joezinho:
If you had a semblance of a brain in that vacant skull of yours, you would've known the top 4 race isn't over simply because you are 9 points away but like the obtuse ninnyhammer that you are, you continued in your display of ratchet pre-historic behavioral patterns.

Witless slowpoke.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:14pm On Dec 05, 2021
hoopLA:
Yes but only on paper.

There's more work to be done in the creative midfield area.

Teams collapse on Bruno shutting off the supply. I have a sneaky feeling that this is the way most of those teams will want to play us going forward.
We were very creative in the first half. Only Fred, Lindelof and De Gea didn’t create a chance in the first half.

The other 8 players made a pass that led to a shot. We just needed to be more clinical. Too many scoffed shots and miskicks.

Boys need to calm down and enjoy this new era.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:10pm On Dec 05, 2021
LostMyZeal:
Lol...Our Ororo lives in the air na

I expected Bruno to Aim for the top-right corner
It was beautiful football.

The lay off was delicious and I was expecting a thunderous volley into the top bins for Bruno.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:08pm On Dec 05, 2021
hoopLA:
Let's take each game one at a time.

Ragnick is still getting accustomed to his new players

It's not going to be so straightforward.

The good thing is that the side appeared more compact,more eager to win 50-50 duels than I've seen in a very long time.
That’s why I said they are winnable games. They are games one would reasonably expect United to win.

Norwich
Brentford
Brighton
Newcastle
Burnley
Wolves

We still have the French contingent(Pogba, Varane, Martial) yet to feature in Rangnick’s team. If we keep winning, we should make top 3 by new year.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:04pm On Dec 05, 2021
Lana1:
Rare OT clean sheet. First one since April
Since March 14th.

9 months without a clean sheet after spending close to £200m on the defence.

Ole is a fraud.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:58pm On Dec 05, 2021
The next 6 games are winnable.

We should be in top 3 by the time we get past all those hapless teams we are expected to beat.

On to the next one.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Dec 05, 2021
Clean sheet at Old Trafford after how many months.

Can we hire Ole and sack him again? cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:37pm On Dec 05, 2021
Fred for Ballon d’Or
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:30pm On Dec 05, 2021
Joezinho:
Boys looks really gassed. Cant blame them for they way they played the first 45min. Not used to this intensity during ole Gollum..
I don’t think Rashford understands how offside rule works. The amount of time he gets caught is alarming for a player in his 6th year playing top level football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:25pm On Dec 05, 2021
Joezinho:
Mistakes are being made out of fatigue. I wonder how long we can sustain this constant press.
I don’t think we can. We are not creative enough to break down a team that sits back, it’s so obvious.

We need to be pressed, win the ball, get a fast break to score goals. During the HaramBall era under Ole, we would have scored by now.

It has to be said that Palace have defended well too. They get back into shape immediately and close down all the spaces.

We need ball playing midfielders.

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