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Expert17...... watch this Clip, maybe you may have a word to say on Dean and Jones.

Simply stunning from @CharliePatino10 🤩 pic.twitter.com/fqi6pXMqCV

— Arsenal Academy (@ArsenalAcademy) September 12, 2021

saw that yesterday. United conceded in the first minute.

I told you guys Henderson is a bum. If the replacement isn’t even better than De Gea, why are we bothering? If there’s ever going to be a DDG replacement, it should be Emiliano Martinez or Oblak.

elampiro:
Read my post again. I said Herrera and Fellaini were occasionally used when others were injured.

No, you said he didn’t play as a DM for us.

He was played as a DM 33 times especially when Mourinho arrived and it wasn’t because of injuries. Mourinho just preferred him there in those games.

elampiro:
He didn't play DM for us. Only on very few occasions. Our DMs since Ferguson has been Blind, Carrick, Schweisteiger, Sneiderlin, Matic, Fred/McTominay.

Herrera and Fellaini were occasionally used when there was no DM due to injuries

timay1:
Bro we had no strikers at all then after Rashford got injured in the middle of January.

I mean, to even play Carabao cup were we will need a back up , we no get. Ighalo was meant to be a 6 months back up till season end.
Stop bringing up ighalo, except you want to troll.

You earlier asserted Solskjaer doesn’t sign alternatives only for you to move goalposts to say United had no strikers in January 2020.

Were Martial and Greenwood on sabbatical in January to make such a claim that United had no striker available during that time?

timay1:
It's obvious now that solskjaer knows the places he needs to strengthen but circumstance is not favorable for now in filling those places.

He wanted Rice obviously and he's not settling for someone that won't be an upgrade to McFred or Matic in DM position, hence he's not signing alternatives.

Athletico didn't want to sell Trippier so better make do with what we have

So why did he sign Ighalo after losing Haaland to Dortmund?

eph12:
It happened. Even Ronaldo gave him the thumbs up

If there was no one in the box, why did he make the cross?

We aren’t talking about just putting blind crosses into the box, we are talking about putting the ball on a plate for strikers to score.


Trent is 12 levels above AWB in that aspect.

eph12:
AWB had a similar cross yesterday but nobody was there to tuck it in

When?

BARAJ92:
We play against low block team, most of the time. It is against a few team, we play a low block.

I also made this point.

Against teams that are coming to park the bus, we shouldn’t even bother with AWB. Against the top 6 teams, AWB is vital to Ole’s tactics.

Ole’s tactics against top teams is to soak the tension in a low block and spring attack quickly to catch them unaware. It is in those type of games that AWB is gold.

He needs to develop his game going forward though otherwise he will never start for England in big competitions with Trent and co in the squad.

Expert17:
You created a new Nairaland account to address this?

They change fonts, use colored fonts, create new accounts to address a small issue magnified by antelopes.

Beware of Trader Moni people.

Alejandrah:
There's no need singing and dancing with semantics...

The point is your name calling!!!

Doesn't make sense!!!

If someone deliberately misinterprets a simple sentence to create a narrative, the someone deserves the name calling.

This isn’t a church.

DeadPresidents:
@illimitable Dan James is on.

Leeds are good as sunk so far

The best player on the pitch by a mile.

eph12:
There was never any argument about whether Herrera was better than McFred. You guys had that argument in your head

So you agree if Herrera had stayed and played as a DM in the current squad, United’s chances are better?

Mrcapability7:
Very simple go and be supporting liverpool they got what you need bruh

I should go and support Liverpool because I want my team to win?

BARAJ92:
Being good on 1 V 1 defending is different from being a good defender though it is a very important aspect of defending other aspect such as concentration, positioning are as well important why defending.

He has improved his positioning. I remember he used to abandon the back post when defending a cross. I have not seen him do that this season.

Against teams where United are parking the bus or playing a low block, you won’t find any RB better than AWB in England. That’s his expertise.

Alejandrah:
"Some" of your takes here are always based on well research facts. I'm not gonna lie, you speak facts and you're consistent.

But what I don't enjoy about some of your takes are the insults.

I remember some guys saying you're coogar lol, whoever that is lol!!!

Listen man, you must not insult or start the name calling thing when people don't agree with your assertions.

Share your points without insulting, I know it's banter season. But banter should be football related, not personal!

Back to the matter on ground.

Is Herera a DM? The correct answer is No!!!

Has he played in the DM position for United? The correct answer is Yes!!!

Did he play well in the DM position? Yes!!!

Herrera didn't play enough games as a DM for United but he was always very on point when called upon in that position.

Stop the name calling man, doesn't make sense!!!

How’s this different from my initial comment?

Illimitable:
Herrera as a DM in this team and United would win every trophy available.

Herrera has an incredible engine in him and he can defend. I saw this dude shadow prime Hazard for 90 minutes.

Even at half time, Herrera was following Hazard to Chelsea’s dressing room. He’s a beast of a player.

The mere fact that I qualified the sentence with “As a DM” should have told anyone with brain cells that I never said his primary role was DM but he can play as one.

If I thought he was a primary DM, I wouldn’t use that qualifier “as a DM.” But this is Nairaland, where people read what they want to see and start arguing without brains.

KinzyeWriter:
I just read alot of comments about Ronaldo's first goal, and also the heavy blame on the goalkeeper for letting the ball slip from his hand which led to the goal.

Firstly, lets look into Greenwood's shooting technique and the goals he's scored from it. He's usually shoot low with power and accuracy.

When he (Mason) cut in and took that shot, the ball was flying low to the left side of the goal post, the goalkeeper saw this and moved a bit from his initial position to make the safe.

But unfortunately, the shot deflected the leg of a Newcastle defender forcing the ball to change direction and met the goalkeeper off balance.

Even though the goalkeeper tried to return to his initial position, his timing had been tampered with and hence the inability to catch the ball properly.

Ronaldo, like a smart striker that he his, had already read the ball even before Mason took the shot, then make a clever run for a possible rebound which indeed came and was well converted.


Before you reply or disagree, I want to be sure you have watched the highlight well enough to catch those tiny details

Even if the first goal was as a result of a goalie mistake, United forced that mistake. Had Greenwood shot off target, the goal wouldn’t have happened.

Ronaldo was the only player that made a move to follow up on that shot. Even the Magpies defenders all had a mannequin challenge. Ronaldo’s intelligence and instincts just smelt something could spill and he benefited from it.

If it was that easy, how come several United players didn’t make the run Ronaldo made? If he wasn’t on the pitch, United wouldn’t have scored from that passage of play.

Kudos to Ronaldo.

BARAJ92:
I don't see anything special in AWB, he lost the ball, more than twice in dangerous position yesterday.

Against the big teams, AWB is excellent.

He’s probably the best 1-v-1 defender in Europe. I saw this dude put Sterling in his back pocket. Sterling couldn’t get a sniff around him and that Sterling had been destroying defenders until he faced AWB.

Expert17:
Transfer rumors that linked us to Trippier during the transfer window, make sense now.

For now, we can start Dalot against low, -blocking teams. At LB, Telles and Shaw can cross so well.

Against teams that are going to pack the middle because of the Ronaldo factor, AWB should be on the bench.

odizeey:
But it was taking time to replicate in united.

This is Ole's best time to prove himself. Everything is here for him, even has the GOAT on his team.

The board shouldn't hesitate to boot him out if he fails this season

Fergie came 2nd in his first full season at United. I think 8-9 points below the champions(Liverpool).

The subsequent seasons were awful but you have to understand the level of shitty players Sir Alex inherited. The squad he inherited hadn’t won the league in 20 years.

Expert17:


I like him so much, no time for bullshit

Expert, you saw that Salah goal?

Salah tucking in with Trent providing the cross?

Why don’t we have full backs that can do that simple task? This is why our games are very stiff until a moment of individual brilliance comes from any of our players.

Daniel James didn’t start for Leeds?

How am I supposed to enjoy this game now?

melodyogonna:
The point is that DM isn't his primary role, he was used there on a makeshift basis

Nobody ever claimed DM was his primary role. This is how you people twist simple English into mental gymnastics.

I said Herrera is another player we could have used as DM this season and he’s better than any of the players we are currently playing there.

Then the brainless antelopes started ranting he never played as a DM for United.

melodyogonna:
Are the insults really necessary?

Very!!!!

odizeey:
If Ole fit turn out like this, who am I to complain?

Ferguson had plenty of credits in the bank. His achievements at Aberdeen surpass anything Pep/Mourinho have done in the modern era.

Ferguson’s Aberdeen broke the stronghold of the Old Firm in Scotland. He won 3 Scottish league titles, 5 domestic cups, beat Bayern and Real Madrid to win a European cup.

Ole cannot even outperform the previous manager with more or less the same team + £400m and he has no credits in the bank. There’s no evidence or any precedent that Ole is capable - it’s just vibes and insha allah.

odizeey:
Played as a DM or not aside, the point is if he would have done the job well.

That guy is a machine, does not commit those errors and can pass.

The point is he’s better as a DM than what we currently have and that was why nitrogen brought his name up.

Herrera can pass, tackle, dribble, shoot, etc - plus he’s the master of shithousery. He knows how to frustrate opponents to death. He’s the master of dark arts.

He frustrated Gerrard so bad in one game at Anfield and Gerrard got a red card that allowed United to win the game without pressure.

Mind you, his brilliant assist got Mata the first goal before the red card. In the game against Chelsea where he shadowed Hazard for 90 minutes, he assisted the first goal and scored the 2nd. Chelsea had no shot on target that day.

Herrera is a monster!

Expert17:
Can give accurate through pass

Man Utd fans who can't remember Pogba and Herrera pairing, with Herrera playing DM.

Many of them couldn’t afford DSTV to watch live games when Herrera was at United.

They only started watching Herrera after Osinbajo launched MarketMoni/TraderMoni which afforded them the coins to subscribe.

Brainless antelopes.

elampiro:
He didn't play DM for us. Only on very few occasions. Our DMs since Ferguson has been Blind, Carrick, Schweisteiger, Sneiderlin, Matic, Fred/McTominay.

Herrera and Fellaini were occasionally used when there was no DM due to injuries

This is another evidence why I don’t rely on bankrupt memories like yours and the other bunch of retards when discussing Manchester United.

I ask again, did Herrera ever play as a DM for United or not?

elampiro:
He didn't play DM for us. Only on very few occasions. Our DMs since Ferguson has been Blind, Carrick, Schweisteiger, Sneiderlin, Matic, Fred/McTominay.

Herrera and Fellaini were occasionally used when there was no DM due to injuries

“He didn’t play DM for us but he played on few occasions.”

Which is which?

This is like saying elampiro isn’t a man but he has a penis he fücks girls with occasionally.

The fact is - he played there and he can play there.

Herrera played as a DM for United 33 times, and assisted 4 goals for United from that position.

33 games as a DM is enough to see he is a competent combative midfielder that could have helped this current team.

maik99:
wahala.. when it's not sunday league football

Nobody even scores this many in a Sunday league football.

This boy is making Bundesliga look like a Principal Cup Competition in Adamawa State.

Expert17:


Ronaldo and Messi don't have this stats at 21.

27 apps with 29 goals at Salzburg

15 apps with 12 goals for Norway NT

That’s what I said.

Haaland at 21 = Prime Ronaldo(27) = Prime Messi(25)

Expert17:
Your guy; Haaland can't stop scoring.

Banged double today, scored hattrick for Norway last week.

I hope OLE won't miss out on this guy.

Haaland is the future.

At 21, he’s just casually dropping prime Ronaldo/prime Messi stats.

65 games, 65 goals, 19 assists for Dortmund.

This boy is ridiculous.

Expert17:
Greenwood will score at least 15 EPL goals

Lukaku will get 25 PL goals this season. He has everything he wants at Chelsea.

The support system is gracious. Kante, Jorginho, Havertz, Mount, Pulisic, Hudson-Odoi, Ziyech, etc.

Expert17:
Lukakuuuuu

EPL golden boot race will be tough this season:
Lukaku
Ronaldo
Bruno
Salah
Kane
Aubameyang

Penalty takers have the edge.

Jorginho will rob Lukaku of many goals.

This is another player that could be balling for United as we speak until a certain Norwegian PE teacher decided to play him from the flanks to accommodate Martial and Rashford.

eph12:
Nobody wants to talk about how they went past Matic like he wasn't there a couple of times or I should mind my business?

Matic doesn’t have the legs any more. It’s not his fault. Ole offered him a contract and picked him for this game - Matic wouldn’t refuse such a generous offer.

The Matic of 2014 would have also been an excellent addition to this current United squad. That Matic was a baller. The current Matic should be playing seniors.

Expert17:
Jones and Martial contract was renewed before the last year.

Herrera was the one sending reminders to OLE and his crew. Just Imagine

Jones & Smalling, especially.
One can still see the reason why Martial’s contract was quickly sorted.

There’s no way Smalling & Jones should be getting a renewal before Herrera.

That’s just gross disrespect for a player that paid his buy-out clause from his own pocket to join Man Utd.

Solksjaer is just useless.

Expert17:
If Martial was given 250K, Herrera our best midfielder then can ask for anything he likes

Herrera won Man Utd’s player of the year in 2017.

He was the best midfielder while he was at United.

nitrogen:
You dey mind them haters? Herrera trumps McFred abeg.

People are saying Herrera never played DM at United.

There are too many moröns supporting Man Utd.