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How’s Villa losing to Watford?

These Brum wånkers have ruined my bet.

Oasis007:
Perhaps he's the Bonus OGS keeps yawning. Board should offer Perreira and Fred to Leicester in exchange for him.

Bruno’s high risk high reward policy is the main worry here. Bruno will always give the ball away because his first instinct is to pass it forward.

Forward passes are too risky and this is why signing a pure destroyer is imperative when Bruno’s risky passes fail to get to the target.

The volume of passes Bruno puts forward is ridiculous making his ball retention ability very very low. Grealish on the other hand can retain the ball very well but he doesn’t attempt risky passes like Bruno.

Ole needs to do something before it’s too late.

Oasis007:
Haha!


Mensah had left United long nau. Which mumu Clubs gonna buy Retirees, Mata and Matic or an injury prone Jones?!

Lingard and Perreira likely to fetch us €50m though.

I thought he went on loan to Fulham. Haha.

Mata and Matic can still prove useful to clubs like Norwich, Brentford or Watford.

Oasis007:
Perhaps he's the Bonus OGS keeps yawning. Board should offer Perreira and Fred to Leicester in exchange for him.

I just learnt last night that Ndidi has a release clause of €60m.

So it’s not even a matter of Leicester won’t sell or they would put £100m price on him. If we take £51m to Leicester, they have to give us Ndidi.

Someone should tell me why we haven’t done that yet.
A sensible manager would sell any of Lingard, Jones, Pereira, Matic, Mata, Fosu Mensah, etc and get Ndidi.

nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd

Still valid - despite the win.

Oasis007:



Best Midfield Combo in the World.

4 × 3 - you wanna argue it?

That midfield isn’t complete until we do this.

Even Darren Bent is echoing the idea.

Skimpledawg:
That Pogba assist to Greenwood is classy.

Damn!

Pogba was doing that all summer at the Euros. This is why it’s a waste having him play next to Fred as a DM. Get him up the pitch and find an elite DM.

Elampiro wants him sold though. Elampiro wants a man that can produce 4 open play assists in a single PL game sold.

Is this the Bruno that one lunatic here said isn’t as good as Grealish?

I dare Grealish to score a hat trick in a PL game without a penalty kick in any of the goals.

King Bruno has laid down the gauntlet. KDB should come outside.

Tuchel wins again.

No excuses about cultural reset, no excuses about progress, no excuses about rebuilding. This guy just finds a way to win football games in clutch moments.

Meanwhile, some zombies on this thread think Ole is their future.

Herrera is coming back to United?

This club is a joke.

raumdeuter:
Dont let Schweinsteiger and Hargreaves make you biased against Bayern deals. Tolliso is a bargain and is the missing link you need

Give us Kimmich, I would send Matic, Mata, Phil Jones, Brandon Williams, Lingard, Van De Beek and McTominay your way.

1 player of yours for 7 of ours.

Deal?

raumdeuter:
Ole = weakness on the bench that I was talking about

Ohhhhh, I got you.

I thought you meant United have a weak bench(mediocre reserve players) in comparison to their rivals.

There’s simply no way that Norwegian fraud gets to the title before Tuchel and Pep.

raumdeuter:
See this

Even if they have PSG squad, Ole is too brainless to finish above Pep or Tuchel in a marathon.

He could beat them in a one off game, but when push becomes shove, those two can manage to go on a long winning streak to get to the finish line before Ole does.

As it is, City and Chelsea have better squads and they have better managers. There’s no chance Ole wins the league. He’s not as smart as Tuchel/Pep and his players aren’t as good as Tuchel/Pep.

raumdeuter:
I have Chelsea as favourite They dont have any obvious weakness in any department

Man City should become favourite if they are able to sign Kane or any decent striker, Grealish is more of the same type of players they have in abndance

Man Utd should also be favourite but they have a major weakness siting on the bench

Liverpool if the AFCON goes ahead in January will likely run into trouble without Salah and Mane. Plus Klopp need to reinvent something cos that gegen pressing style will go stale soon, It always does like it did at Dortmund

What kind of delusion is this?

Ole is favorite in a league that has Pep, Tuchel and Klopp?

How?

Sniper4real:
Illimitable dey argue with 2 people and na different arguments, I respect you

Easy arguments to debate when you have a geriatric RooneyBot and an idiöt with a morgue temperature IQ.

I could do 60 of them in my sleep.

Android17:
Let me tell you what stupid is. You started by arguing that Sancho was not promoted. I proved that he was. You could not refute it then your next ploy is to ask me why one of those reasons did not apply to other players - and you are talking about someone else missing the point.
Stop asking me about Phil Foden or any other irrelevant question. You have conceded that Sancho was promoted which was the bone of contention. Find other means to salvage your reputation. This one has flopped hard.

Stupidity powers your circulation system.

You didn’t prove anything. You are still making the mistake of assuming contracts is linked to promotion - it is not. Sancho wasn’t promoted. A contract offer isn’t promotion.

Foden was ‘promoted’ without signing a contract. That is the point your greasy head has failed to grasp for more than a week. Stop this idiotic theory of yours that a contract offer is the same as promotion.

That was when you died. Stop saving face because you are too stupid to admit your MD analogy is as stupid as your conception. NL credibility will not add any money into your account.

Go home, work hard, save money so you can afford to subscribe to quality sports media that would give you enough knowledge to debate sporting issues on a public forum.

Dullard!

Android17:
I admire your ability to delude yourself.
From Sancho was not promoted to why did Phil Foden travel on tour without a new contract?
Why not ask me if Foden's name was mentioned as one of those promoted? Why not ask me if Foden played and trained with the first team after the tour? Because it proves what you had been arguing against. But go ahead, delude yourself some more.

You are a fool of epic proportions.

After lying to us contracts are tied to promotion, you quickly realized your folly when I pointed to you that wasn’t the case for Foden.

Your not-so-high IQ suddenly realized Man City couldn’t have treated the 2 players(Foden and Sancho) of the same age differently and that was when your argument fell flat in its face.

Like I said, you should have stayed in school and taken more logic classes, you miserable cünt!

elampiro:
Give us the stats for
Iniesta
Ronadinho
KDB
Fabrehas
Lampard

I am not your pastor.

Do the research yourself and tell me what you found.

Fact remains Rooney is a striker, started out as a striker before he was deemed not good enough and he was moved back a little to accommodate those that have a natural ability for scoring.

elampiro:
1. Rooney is not a number 9. He is an AM

According to ElampSports in Adamawa?

Just because Rooney failed as a #9 doesn’t mean you should lie in public.

elampiro:
2. Tell me why Fabregas has more goals and Assists than Iniesta and Ronaldinho? Even Di Maria might even fair better. We are talking about figures now

This is amateur talk.

Ronaldinho was actually more prolific than Cesc Fabregas. You are looking at Cesc’s volume of goals and assists without considering the number of minutes played.

Ronaldinho scored 1 goal in every 217 minutes in his career, Cesc scored a goal in every 417 minutes in his career. Ronaldinho is twice as prolific as Fabregas despite playing as a left wing forward at his peak.

Android17:
Very poor strawman.
Sancho was offered a contract and told he will feature in the first team. Sancho said put it in writing then I will believe you. MCFC refused and Sancho refused to sign the contract. Is that hard? Don't forget this proves Sancho was indeed promoted which is what brought us into this. Reply with insults, that is all you are really good for.

You are missing the point here - I don’t know if it’s deliberate to hide your previous stupidity or it’s a blind spot for you.

You had said Sancho didn’t go to preseason(promotion) because he had refused to sign. You linked the signing of his contract directly to his promotion.

So I asked, why wasn’t this the same for Foden? Foden should never have been on the plane to preseason when his own contract talk was only up 18 months later. City should have waited for Foden to also sign his contract before putting him on a plane for preseason.


It’s just simple logic and you keep failing. Your only rebuttal to this was that players are treated differently. So in your company, the MD position can be leveraged to get an employee’s signature while another employee of the same age can become the MD without having to worry about signing any contract regarding the role.


If this doesn’t make you look stupid, nothing else would.

Android17:
When the veracity of a claim cannot be ridiculed, a weak debater tries to ridicule the source.

I like how my victims turn philosophical after getting battered.

Go and sin no more.

It’s a wrap!

elampiro:
By your own logic, Lampard, Fabregas, arr greater than Iniester and Ronaldinho since only goals and figures matter in football.

Mr Coogar, you are expired.

Lampard and Fabregas are midfielders. Scoring goals isn’t their primary objective. If they have goals in them, it’s a bonus.

Rooney and Aguero are strikers. Aguero has shown he’s more prolific than Rooney and you are typing nonsense.

Then you dived deeper into the nonsense by using Ballon d’Or as the determinant. Torres finished above Rooney ever did in Ballon d’Or ranking so is Torres better than Rooney?

I am destroying all y’all charlatans tonight.

No mercy.

Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent.

But but but “All players are not the same”

Only Sancho was offered the contract for the MD position. Foden and Diaz are different players so they were treated differently.

For Sancho, he must sign the contract to become an MD or lose the position. However, for Foden, he can become the MD for18 solid months before signing the MD contract.

This is another reason why women should take enough Folic acid during pregnancy - any inadequacy and the child starts to display this level of incoherent, inconsistent twaddle.

Android17:
So you can't answer my question? Good. See the highlighted portion, I did not make the claim, an article did so. Remember?

You made the claim before finding a junk article that partially supports the same claim.

Of all the websites to bring up as evidence, you cited MEN?

You are a charlatan.

Android17:
What agreement was thought to be imminent? Stop with the useless whataboutisms. All players are not the same and all camps are not the same so asking me about Foden and Diaz just shows you have lost big time on this and are trying to change the narrative to something else.

You are a möron!

All players are not the same? Really?

After lying to us for hours that had Sancho signed his contract, it would have been the gateway to the preseason tour(promotion) and his refusal to sign was the reason Pep didn’t take him to preseason, you have the audacity to say all players aren’t the same?

You are a brainless charlatan.

Android17:
L L. Provide where in the screenshot this was implied. I am waiting.

Your stupidity knows no bounds. You have reduced this whole argument to your poor use of English.

Look at the sentence again and stop disgracing your school. An agreement was thought to be imminent - This simply means City thought there was an agreement but Sancho backed away from whatever psychotic idea City thought they had.

In short, there was never an agreement(at least, none on Sancho’s side of the table). City only felt so. If there was an agreement, it would be on paper(Sancho’s signature with wet ink).

Meanwhile, why were the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion not existent with Foden and Diaz?

Can you answer this question and nail your own coffin so I can debate more important people on this thread?

You died when you linked Sancho’s contract to his promotion. Foden/Diaz proved contracts and promotion are two different entities.

I bet you wish you could take that back.

Bloody charlatan.

Android17:
Your own screenshots. Do you see the phrase "any longer"? It shows you that he had considered the contract but did not want to - any longer. Remember your own screenshot shows you that an agreement [concerning the 30,000 GBP contract] that was thought to be imminent fell through because Sancho backed away. Yet an intellectual superior skipped all that to say . . . nonsense.

No no no, don’t be stupid.

He didn’t wish to be a City player “any longer”.

Android17:
L L. I am literally using your own article. This is funny. Your article says he backed away from the contract he was offered and you say he backed away from being a MCFC player. I expect you to insult your own article now.

“An agreement was thought to be imminent……”

City thought they had an agreement. I am not insulting the article. I am insulting your cognitive and deductive reasoning.

elampiro:
Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.

With this logic of yours….

Torres finished ahead of Rooney in FIFA Ballon D’Or rankings. Torres finished 3rd, made world XIs. Rooney cannot talk when Torres is mentioned.

I want to see how you untie yourself from this web of fallacies you have tied yourself into.

You have 72 hours to respond.

By the time I am through with all you NL oldies, you would ALL acknowledge my awesomeness.

Android17:
L L. The reason your analogy works is because you had initially COMMITTED to eating rice and stew. Which means you wanted it before. Sancho had not made up his mind to leave, therefore QED. Your own argument defeats you. I don't have time for your weak attempts at deflecting from the crux of the issue.

Your use of English is terrible.

Sancho “backed away” cos he wished to no longer be an employee of Man City. QED.

120 hours later, you still haven’t told us why the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion didn’t apply to Diaz and Foden.

That was where you died - everything else you have typed is just saving face.

I’m your intellectual god.

BlueAngel444:
it go shock you, but hope say you wear slippers

What will shock me?

If Poch succeeds, he’s expected to. Nobody would raise any eyebrow that he’s a genius with the number of talents in his squad.

If he fails, there would be no mercy. One bad result and the hammer would drop on his head. There are way too many brilliant managers in Europe to persist with Poch.

PSG have big ambitions, they aren’t like Man Utd who have decided to remain stuck with a failure for the next 3 years.

Android17:
In March 2017 "his mind was made up" but in July 30 2017 "he backed away". L L.
You only "pull back" and "stop negotiations" if you were moving forward or negotiating.
Question, why did he "back away"? Because a problem could not be resolved. What problem? Another article spelled it out.
You have now gone on to attack that article - and you call others lunatics. L L.

The “backed away” phrase was used because he was expected to sign.

What kind of deductive reasoning is this you are displaying? Sancho was a City player through and through. If he rejected any contract, it means he was not going to be a City player going forward thus the phrase back away.

You went to a restaurant, asked for the menu, picked rice and stew, food was served and you changed your mind that you don’t want the food again, you have backed away. You don’t have to start eating the food before one could say you backed away.

You should have stayed in school.

Android17:
All your stupid questions will not obfuscate clear facts. You said prove he was promoted I gave 3 reasons.
1. Announcement by CEO and Pep 2.) His contract 3.) The pre-season tour. You ignored all and said as long as he did not play during the season he was not promoted. I asked you how he would have played when he left before the season begun?

And I have asked you why these steps weren’t taken with Foden and Diaz before going for the preseason tour? Foden signed his contract 18 months after going for a preseason tour. If the steps you listed are really the precursor to a promotion, City would have waited for Foden to sign his contract before going for any preseason tour.

Since that isn’t the case, it means all what you listed are bunk. They have nothing to do with the contract. You only managed to conjure that crap in your head by linking his contract to his promotion and using the role of an MD as a crutch.

You are a simpleton!

Android17:
You hopped back to contract - then I showed you how he, in numerous articles, said the issue was about regular playing time. One article said he wanted it included into his contract - proving to you that he did not want a gentleman's agreement - he did not want the long game that Harry Kane is currently facing.

Which numerous articles? MEN is the only article you have provided as evidence and every football fan and his dog knows MEN is the media for ex-convicts that cannot afford quality articles penned by The Athletic.

Android17:
PS: There are no 30 articles concerning Jadon leaving City on the athletic. L L. It is easy to prove as well but I digress.

You have been found out. No matter how you shake it, you are intellectually inferior.