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Android17:
I used your own screenshot, analyzed each sentence and showed you how the athletic article paralleled with all the other stories - it is only the one made up in your self-absorbed, deluded and conspiratorial mind that differs.

You are a pathological liar, bros.

There’s no parallel here. The Athletic simply said Sancho and Foden are ambitious brats but Foden was more grounded because of his Manchester background and because his family are all city fans while Sancho was impatient.

By the time the contract was tabled, Sancho had made up his mind that he wasn’t going to wait to get a cameo in a dead rubber game against Bournemouth.

Android17:
I asked you why Sancho would want the number of appearances he would have in the first team, written into that contract if that contract was not sold to him as a promotional one. Until you answer the question, you have nothing to stand on.

I couldn’t answer that because there’s no evidence that actually happened . I scoured over 30 articles on The Athletic about Sancho’s contracts and none of the articles wrote anything like that because it’s unreasonable.

You scooped that from MEN - a junk sports media designed for society degenerates like yourself so they don’t feel left out about the happenings in world football. There’s no way a 17 year old would insist the number of appearances should be claused in his contract in a club as massive as Man City.

The MEN article was probably written by a lunatic like you to make Sancho look bad. A ploy club’s PRs had always used to appease the fans that might be agitated that Sancho was lost. “It’s not our fault, guys. We tried everything but that boy was unreasonable.”

I remember Ronaldinho also wanting a Helipad before coming to Man Utd. You have to be the biggest idiöt on the planet to believe such crap. Sancho never asked for that, he wasn’t going to sign for City because Pep took too long to play him in the senior team.

Android17:
Win an argument with you? You, who have conceded that Sancho was promoted?

The mind of a lunatic.

The first thing a very good psychologist would have noticed about you is that you suffer from acute psychosis. You are reading/seeing things that didn’t happen.

I have asked you to tell me why Foden got promoted to the senior team before his contract was up - you cannot answer. I hope you haven’t forgotten how you drew a parallel by comparing Sancho’s contract to the role of a managing director.

You lied to the whole world Sancho’s contract guaranteed his promotion and if that’s the case, why didn’t Man City wait until Foden’s contract was signed before taking him to a preseason tour?

You are a blithering idiöt!

Oasis007:
Poch should play Messi as 10, behind Trio of Naymar, Icardi and Mbappe or Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria.

Wij and Verrati as DMs pivot. Hakimi, Marquinhos, Ramos and Diallo as CBs and FBs.

Poch is the weakest link in that set up. He’s one poor result away from getting sacked and there are plenty of elite managers that would take his place.

The expectation right now is through the roof. If Poch doesn’t win a treble with this team, questions would be asked, all manner of inquests would appear from various mainstream media.

This team should work for Poch but Poch is Ole’s cousin so I am predicting his sack letter by Christmas.

Android17:
I have patience for slow people.
Jadon -2015 scholarship to expire 2018, so offer him the best contract possible and announce promotion 2017 before Bosman rule can kick in. Phil Foden - 2016 scholarship to expire 2019 so offer him a contract 2018 before Bosman rule (announce promotion to first team July 2017).
Do you notice how Foden does not ask for playing time in his contract in 2018 like Jadon did? That is how 2 different human beings behave - one player was willing to play the long game, the other was not.

You are a blithering idiöt..

You said Sancho’s contract was the offer that he was guaranteed to be promoted that summer and he would have been promoted had he accepted the offer in March 2017. So how come Foden was “promoted”(taken to preseason) before he was given an offer?

I am asking you this question to destroy your earlier point that Sancho’s contract is tied to his promotion, that’s a lie you managed to put together cos you are a very stupid person during an argument. You even went as far as comparing it to the role of Managing Director - characteristic of a room temperature IQ in display.

If indeed contracts are tied to promotion, City would have waited until Foden’s contract was up in 2018 before giving him promotion(taken to a preseason tour) - just like you stupidly lied about Sancho. That wasn’t the case.

As for Foden not asking for anything or playing the long game, that’s understandable. He was born in a family of City fans and he’s a local boy. He knew sooner than later that his chance would come.

Sancho signed for Watford at age 8, left his family house at age 11 in Kennington to board at Harefield academy in Uxbridge. He has always been in a hurry to get things done. He was only 13 years of age when he was playing against boys of 16 years of age at Watford academy.

He was never the type to stay stagnant. He was too ambitious for that and by the time he turned 15, he told Watford he was going to join Man City. So what part of his previous behavioral traits gave City the audacity to keep him waiting in the fringes before sending him to the deep waters?

City should have known he was not going to wait for long - and they should have pushed him to at least appear in a dead rubber game in 16/17, they didn’t and they lost him.

Android17:
Now that your deflections have flopped bad again, please answer: Sancho "already made up his mind" to leave in March 2017 yet he waited till after MCFC refused to include playing time in that contract late July 2017 to reject it - why? See reference below.

You must be very stupïd to be holding a MEN article as the gospel as per what happened with Sancho. There’s a reason such articles are easily accessible to moröns like you: they are not properly researched.

According to the Athletic, Sancho was already impatient before the contract offer was presented to him. This is why you will never win an argument with me - because you research from junk articles and you use it as a crutch to debate your intellectual superiors.

Get the fück outta my face, you despicable cünt!

elampiro:
Opta muddled up the roles of Striker, SS, AM, RF, LF in the earlier years. Even as at 2010, 2011, they muddled up FW, SS, AM roles as all forwards in most of the times. Opta evolved over time. What opta did before 2012 is that when it registered a player as a striker in the beginning of the season, it keeps counting FW for that player irrespective of the teams formation in matches and how the player was used. Same way, if it counts a player as an AM, it goes on auto mode.

Opta has evolved. If it were those days, it would still have been registering KDB as a winger in every match

OPTA muddled stats?

You are a joke!

elampiro:
Only one match as support striker or one season. Mtchew

Compared to Rooney who never had even one season as a striker. He was in the wing right from his debut season. Nilsterooy, Smith, Saha, Tevez, Berbatov, Chacharito, Van Person were our strikers. Sometimes Welbeck still still strike.

Unlike Aguero who was mostly the striker throughout his years.

Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.

Who told you it was only one match?

I only gave you an example by highlighting that one match against United at OT.

Aguero played 94 games in his career as a second striker and 72 of those games were for Man City.

P.S. Aguero did not play all his games at City as a striker contrary to what you wrote.

Go and sin no more.

Android17:
If only you will research properly rather than reply capriciously all the time. Sancho was signed to the academy scholarship in 2015, Phil was signed 2016. See the underlined and keep deceiving yourself. The only reason he wanted assurances "written" into the contract is because they had verbally told him what the contract signified. If your conspiracy nonsense was anything to go by, don't you think Sancho would have rejected that contract since March - you said he was offered? L L

Look at this idïot.

You have been lying to us that Sancho’s contract was tied to his promotion. Even after you were told Foden signed his contract in Dec 2018 AFTER he was promoted in the summer of 2017, the penny still didn’t drop for you?

Every young player has an academy scholarship. It’s totally different to what we are discussing. Don’t muddy the waters with your stupïdity. Sancho was offered £30,000 per week contract in March 2017 - you told us that contract was tied to him being promoted - which he turned down.

If the contract was the promotion, how come Foden was promoted before signing his own contract in December 2018? Can you not see the foolishness in your logic?

So let me get this straight - You claim Sancho’s contract in March 2017 was the promotion offer. So Sancho was given an offer before promotion but Foden was given a contract after promotion in 2018?

You are a disgrace to your lineage.

Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent.

Football contract isn’t for an MD position. It’s to tie him down for a certain number of years and retain him as an employee.

Sancho was offered a contract - the contract didn’t signify he was being promoted. They were just keeping him in ice for the foreseeable future.

If you have any IQ, you would notice that Diaz & Foden weren’t given any contracts that year but they ended up going for City’s preseason.

In actuality, Foden didn’t sign his contract until December 2018(£30,000 per week). Sancho was offered his contract around March 2017.

A contract is a contract, it’s got nothing to do with being promoted. I brilliantly led you to this cul-de-sac so you can “unalive” yourself in the presence of everyone.

Joe Hugill, Charlie McNeill, Woolstoon all have contracts at Man Utd, they are nowhere near being promoted. Instead of you to sit and learn when your superiors are dropping gems, you are puffing chest like an orangutan.

Oasis007:


Haaland don net Hatrick, while Martial dey net Heartattack.

When i mentioned his prowess when he netted 40 goals last season, RooneyBots rose in arms to attack me that Haaland is overrated.

I still think Martial is better though - you just need to renew your vows every preseason that the #9 shirt is his until 2050.

Android17:
Once any man resorts to that, just know he knows his argument lacks substance.

Says the plonker that is equating giving contracts to a player to his promotion.

If you are dafter than this, you would be a pawpaw fruit.

BikeMan:
Just informing you to anticipate Lukaku content from me this season. About to spam here till you cry.

Go ahead, please.

It’s inevitable that Lukaku would bully Maguire at some point this season.

elampiro:
Who is collating the statistics? Opta? You want to us to believe anything from anywhere? Rooney played as a striker in only one season.

Stats are screwed if his AM role is counted as a striker

We shouldn’t believe OPTA, but we should believe you from the dungeons of Adamawa state near Cameroon.

These RooneyBots make me laugh.

Oasis007:
Haaland don net brace. He's a fuckin Goals Machine. United should go all out for him next Season.

I disagree, Martial is better.

Ole just needs to coach him and we must keep promising him that we won’t attempt giving his #9 shirt to any striker again. He might be 26 in age, but he’s 12 in his body. There’s plenty of time to prove himself.

Martial - ice cold, bald assassin, fully gloved in any weather, no smile, came from Monaco, media said no chance, defenders have families, dripping in sauce, sauce on spill, winner, Europe ain’t ready, greatest talent of all time, treble incoming, it’s really Martial’s season, Martial FC eating Gucci.

BlueAngel444:
Lol you finally mentioned it yourself

It was hard resisting the temptation to, remember Aguero played behind Dzeko and other number 9s signed in City.

Some of us have memories, unlike the RooneyBots.

nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd

I won’t allow your comment to get buried under the dross posts.

Brendan Rodgers - hired after the Norwegian fraud has been stacking trophies on a fraction of the amount Ole has spent but Olesexuals keep lying to us that the fraud has done a phenomenal job at Old Trafford.

The excuse is that Ole is building United through cultural reboot to achieve sustainable success. You have to wonder whether Brendan is building Leicester for a short term success at this point.

elampiro:
Everything you wrote is rubbish because Arguero was a striker 100% times he appeared. Rooney was a striker only like 20%


You no know ball.

You are a big olodo.

Aguero wasn’t a striker every time he played. He played as a supporting striker in many games particularly in his debut season.

He was a supporting striker for Balotelli when they pumped United 6-1 at Old Trafford.

Like I told you, the era where you can lie your way around a discussion is well and truly over.

The image below is Aguero vs United(Oct 23, 2011)

I dare you to tell us another lie.

Mrcapability7:
You're a slowpoke and waste of space.

Wouldn't want argue with you. You know nothing. I don't look at stas to determine player worthiness.

Have you a nice day and time.

If you need to shed bitter tears because everything you were made to believe about Rooney has been exposed to be a lie, I could send you boxes of Kleenex.

No one asked you to argue with me in the first place, you jumped into what didn’t concern you and now you are backing out because you couldn’t stand the heat in this kitchen.

Shame on you!

elampiro:
Rooney mostly played from the wing and Ronaldo from the centre. The front three often switched. Garry Neville said Ronaldo can be asked to start from the right but he ends up in the middle or left because he picked the weakest area of the opposition to attack.

Tevez was our striker. Rooney was playing from the wing in a fluid three. Ronaldo even played in the middle more than Rooney.

Rooney was being used as the sacrifice for Ronaldo.

Even in the following season when Rooney provided the Assist for Ronaldo to score against Inter Milan, at half time SAF had withdrawn Rooney from attack to protect the left back where Inter attacked us in the 1st half. Rooney was acting more like a wingback throughout the 2nd half while Giggs moved closer to the opposition box. It was the first time Rooney overlapped that he picked Ronaldo with a pinpointing cross that resulted in the second goal.

Stats will not tell you all these Same way stats will not tell you that Scholes and Ronadinho did great things.


You no know ball. Bye

I can tell I have gotten under your skin. You even went as far to reply me in colored fonts. Wow. I am really doing the Lord’s work on this thread to rehabilitate RooneyBots.

Let me break your heart first and foremost that everything you have written up there is pure baloney. This is 2021, there is a vault of factual information on the internet of where any player in the last 30 years has played. That theory of yours that wasn’t backed by any fact 8-10 years ago has no credibility. You could get away with such lies back then, not anymore.

Bringing out one useless article to generalize that Rooney was often sacrificed to accommodate other players is a lie cooked from hell. I have information of how many games Rooney played as a centre forward. In actuality, he played most of his games as a centre forward contrary to what you RooneyBots have been made to believe over the years.

No matter how you shake it, Rooney is about 2 tiers below Aguero. Stats(facts) don’t care about your feelings. The statistics show Rooney played 238 games as the main striker, 165 games as supporting(2nd) striker, 75 games as attacking midfielder, 21 games as left winger, 17 as right winger and 13 games as a central midfielder.

After extracting these facts from the web, I filtered the games played as a main striker and compared to Sergio Aguero. The result was even grimmer than the total stats showed. Rooney was found wanting again and again. I know this would come as a shock to you but that’s what my expertise is. The whole point is to rehabilitate all you media sheep that believe Rooney scored fewer goals because of his versatility.

The stats comparing Rooney and Aguero from the same position(main striker) are below.

Aguero(striker) - 207 goals, 52 assists in 296 games.
Rooney(striker) - 104 goals, 55 assists in 238 games.

Drink it and weep.

Android17:
You always make me laugh. Here is your churlish style of arguing. 1. Insult 2. Strawman 3. Insult again 4. Deflect. With you, the major point will never be responded to. As soon as you are trapped, 5. you will bring up another irrelevant point that nobody was talking about and then, use it to throw more abusive words. 6. Pat yourself in the back.

Trapped? You are a dullard!!! You were the one that brought your long nose into the argument by disproving my point. You said Sancho was promoted.

Android17:
Again, I ask, if a prodigious talent means the player must be given a start, why did Ronaldo De Lima not start or play at all under Carlos Alberto in 1994. I selected said player because that is a player you love. You could not answer the question, you called it a false equivalency yet in the very same breath brought up what Moyes did with Rooney - when MCFC is being discussed.

Idiöcy runs in your genes for bringing up this false equivalence again. Brazil played only 7 games at the World Cup in 1994, there’s a mitigating factor not to have played Ronaldo in comparison to Guardiola’s team that played close to 60 games in 16/17 season.

Just to make sure I expose you as an idiöt that you have chosen to be in this lifetime, Man City played useless teams like Middlesboro, Huddersfield in FA cup that season and they played against Steaua Bucharest in the UCL qualifier. You mean Pep couldn’t have started Sancho from the bench and give him 20 secs in any of these games?

Nigga, who raised you?

Android17:
I wonder how the intelligent United fans always let you get off with this weak strawman style argument. Nobody is arguing why Sancho left. We have his own testimony - he wanted regular playing time and he knew it was unlikely considering the pecking order. But here you are, presenting a poser as though this question was not already answered pages back and then asking it like it was a bone of contention. Yet, you are still deflecting from the main issue - why was he offered a new contract? why was he invited like Brahim and Foden? If Pep was not going to use him in the first team that season, why did the other 2 players that were invited like Sancho, feature that very season?

Just another long winded fiddlesticks that led nowhere.

Why didn’t Pep promote Sancho before Sancho decided Pep was up to no good? And we aren’t talking about contracts or failed promises. Why didn’t Pep give Sancho 30 secs in any of the dead rubber games played in 2016/17?

You are braindead.

Android17:
"there was no reason for him to leave, if he hadn't felt betrayed". When we asked you to present where this was said or alluded to, you replied with insults.
Present where this was alluded to or implied. LOL.

That was exactly what the article was all about. You said you had read it before. You were challenged to show proof and your tail has been between your legs ever since.

Pathological liars get found out each time they square up to me.

Android17:
Present where Sancho said this or where it was implied. Is it hard? All we know is, Pep came in 2016/17, promoted 3 youth players at the end of that season (after watching them for a season), offered first team contracts and invited them to join the first team tour. 2 of those players who stayed on played that season - with the first team. The evidence shows Sancho would have played. The evidence also shows Sancho would not have had as much playing time with the first team as he did with Dortmund - which is the only citable reason as to why he left.

This is the same bastard that said Sancho wasn’t promoted and he’s repeating the lie again that 3 players were promoted.

Your father’s mistress has placed a terrible curse on you. Seek help.

Android17:
Yet Tosin Adarabioyo played in Pep's very first season for the first team.

You are logically useless. Adarabioyo got his debut under Pellegrini. This fool actually made my point by himself without realizing.

Adarabioyo was an unused substitute against Monchengladbach and Juventus in the fall of 2015. He made his full debut in the senior team in Feb 2016 against Chelsea. He started that game but now you want to make it look as if Pep gave him his full debut.

Look at how you have disgraced your lineage for the umpteenth time.

Android17:
Sancho was not promoted - but he was offered a promoted contract. Sancho was not promoted - but he was invited to the first team's pre-season tour in the USA when other youth team players were to be in the UK. Your entire argument as to what makes me wrong is that Sancho did not feature in the EPL - even when he left before the EPL started.

This bastard told us in the last paragraph that 3 players were promoted. 14 and half seconds later, he’s backtracked all by himself again that Sancho wasn’t promoted. See how easy it is to see through your lies.

Make up your mind - was Sancho promoted or not? 3 players were promoted but Sancho wasn’t promoted. You are the biggest irresponsible tosser I have come across since I was born.

Android17:
LOL. People who can read will see the fine print.

Those that can read are giggling at your humiliation. Lying about Sancho getting promoted and flip flopping back to he wasn’t promoted was the real giveaway.

They also feel you didn’t have to lie that you have access to the Athletic article. You backtracked like a loser that you are when you were asked to post an excerpt of the article you claimed to have read.

The long and short of this whole tale is that you are a disgrace. Don’t you ever in your fücking miserable life reply me again or even make subliminal comments at me until you improve your deductive and cognitive reasoning, you morönic weapon!

CapitalCee:
It is now clear that your are out of your depth.
He is jack of all trade master of none? But he is the hishest goal scorer for both club and country.
He is not among the top 5 scorers in EPL? Yet he is only behind Alan Shearer in all time EPL top scorer. For the playmakers stats see Zidane and Iniesta.

That’s a damning indictment on United and England. Aguero spent 10 years at City and scored 260 goals for them. Rooney’s 13 years at United only produced 253 goals for United.

As for Alan Shearer and top 5 scorers in PL, you would expect someone that had close to 16 years in the PL(13 of those at United alone) to be nearer the top.

Van Nistelrooy scored 150 goals for United in 5 seasons. That’s 30 goals per season average. How many goals would he have scored if he had spent as many as 13 seasons like Rooney? You cannot use all time stats to judge how prolific a striker is.

CapitalCee:
In those seasons Rooney scored 34 goals apeice thats an excellent return for a top striker even though he didnt play there through out the campaign.
Interestingly your Aguero never scored up to that tally in his entire career, infact for his 10 years at city he only scored over 30 goals just twice.

Aguero didn’t score up to that because he didn’t play as many minutes. It’s a disgrace that Aguero who was always hampered with injuries scored more goals for Man City in 10 years than Rooney did in 13 years.

And if you don’t believe me, let’s compute their goal/min stats in those 2 seasons Rooney scored 34 and let’s see who was more dangerous inside the 18 yard box.

CapitalCee:
Ronaldo de lima did 47 once and never repeated it, infact apart from that he never scored more than 34 goals in a season his entire career. Apart from his final season at Arsenal RVP never scored more than 30 goals in his entire career. It is funny how your jack of all trade and master of none could amass such a high number in the only season he was tasked to lead the attack.

How many times does De Lima have to do it to be considered world class. Ever heard of personal best statistics? A striker at age 20 scored 47 goals in a season and you still asking for more?

The Jack of all trade who played billions of minutes in a top team should have those numbers. The true statistics is the goal/minute stats. If we put that here, you would be embarrassed to have even held a brief for Rooney.

CapitalCee:
Your other points are useless that deserve no response

Or you don’t have a smart rebuttal for them.

Rooney’s name didn’t even come up in the top 10 most prolific strikers(goal/mins) in the PL history but we should ignore it because there’s more to Rooney than stats?

If that’s true then Doucoure is better than Bruno, Doucoure’s stats shouldn’t matter because he does much more than Bruno.

This forum must have the most hypocritical United fans one can ever meet.

If a Chelsea fan says Mount is better than Bruno, they would be up in arms, providing all kinds of statistics to show Bruno is better.

But if I use the same statistics to prove Aguero is better than Rooney then they tell you statistics don’t matter in football, that I should watch the game more.

If this isn’t mental retardatiön, I don’t know what it is.

You are all in trouble, I have told you my job here is to change your age-long narratives you heard from beer parlors or your retardēd football loving uncles.

Evil is here!

elampiro:
Did they play in the same team and position? No.

One was being a 9 throughout with the league best AM (Silva) helping him. Another was playing all round supplying RVP passes from 60 yards, etc

How many goals did Aguero score for Argentina.

Anyway, FIFA XI and FIFA Ballon D'or top finish says it all. Good bye

How did Ronaldo outscore Rooney in 07/08?

Was Ronaldo a striker?

How did Salah outscore Kane, Lukaku, etc from the wing? Was Salah a striker?

Rooney - shit as a striker
Rooney - shit as a #10.

I peeped the statistically best seasons of selected PL players, as predicted Rooney’s supposed best seasons were at the bottom of the pile.

You people have no shame.

CapitalCee:
You are talking absolute nonsense, I mean absolute nonsense. The reason Rooney was played all over the pitch was because of his versatility, his movement of the ball and his excellent ability to find team mates with passes as well as his chance creation.

He was played all over the pitch because he’s mediocre at everything. Rooney is a Jack of all trades. While his versatility is an admirable quality, he’s not a master at any of the thing he does.

Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 strikers in the history of the PL, Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 number 10s in the history of the PL. Rooney isn’t in the top 5 of any football position in the history of the PL.

That’s exactly my point!

oliverano:
Rooney scores, create chances, passes, marks, orchestrate play and sometimes control games, he is a one of a kind. He is never a top striker, he was always the second striker behind a more traditional 18-yard box finisher in a 4-4-2 formation. Heskey, Owen and lately Kane for England. Van Nistelrooy, Berbetov, Chicharito, Welbeck and Van persie for United.

If he was a provider for all these strikers, why does he have a horrendous assist stat? Who was he assisting while playing behind top strikers? We know Fabregas, Giggs, De Bruyne, Bergkamp, Lampard and even the late comer(Bruno) and their craft, how come Rooney isn’t in this conversation in the history of the PL.

oliverano:
4-4-2 formations previously adopted by managers makes the 2 strikers basically share scoring responsibilities with the most advanced finisher ussually getting the most, Aguero in the city lineup or Lewandowski are always advanced strikers due to the sytle of play of the team. Rooney was playing in a position akin to Bruno Fernandes in recent times, or even Rivaldo or Lampard(in chelsea) before. The seasons Rooney was asked to lead the attack in 2021/12 and 2009/2010 season, go and check his goal tally.

What was his goal tally in 2009/10 & 11/12?
Do you know how many goals Salah scored from the flank on his debut season? You people just like to gas mediocrity.

There is always an excuse for Rooney? Challenge his numbers as a striker and everyone quickly reminds you he’s not a pure forward. Challenge his numbers as a #10, and they tell you he’s a striker or a deep-lying playmaker stationed beside Carrick.

oliverano:
In terms of ability on the ball Aguero is no where near Rooney. Aguero will never in his life attempt the searching long pass Rooney delivered to Van Persie in 2013 to clinch the title against Aston Villa, and that has always been Rooney's landmark.

There’s a reason Aguero is heading to Barcelona at age 34 while Rooney wasn’t even considered good enough at Everton when he was 32. He had to run to MLS & now he’s retired while Ronaldo is still winning golden boot in Serie A.

oliverano:
Ronaldo de lima who you hail, go and check his goal tally even in his most prolific season. Please stop making emphatic conclusions on things you have not well researched. For you to say Aguero is better than Rooney in Everything is an absolutely nonsense statement. If Rooney was an Argentine, Higuain will never have benched him in the national team.

De Lima won Ballon d’Or at age 20 and he repeated the feat at 21. De Lima scored 47 goals for Barcelona at the tender age of 20 - these are numbers Rooney cannot even dream of.

If Rooney was an Argentine, he would be playing Rugby for the national team. Rooney is a master at nothing and I reiterate the only reason he got moved around a lot was because he wasn’t particularly excellent at anything.

Rooney(the provider) never topped Assist chart in over 16 seasons in England. I ask - what was he providing? Was he providing passes that led to goals or expletives to the match officials.

You can put a poll up anywhere in the world, Aguero would be chosen before Rooney.

oliverano:
Not here to argue just want to add to what you guys are trying to say.
I think the difference is the coach.

I agree with you, Oliver. The difference is the coach for choosing the inferior options for Man Utd.

oliverano:
I didn't start this argument so I don't know what was said in the past but I'll contribute based on player comparison. The aforementioned players, I think the difference is the coach at least to some extent.

The coach takes some responsibility in tactics but the larger responsibility still rests with the players.

oliverano:
Silva and Mata for me can be measured as somewhat equivalent until Pep arrived.

Silva was better. Plenty of United fans always admired how Silva was able to keep the ball, guard it well and make eye of the thread passes. Mata was also good for most parts but he was essentially producing his assists from set plays.

oliverano:
Martial was the most expensive teenager at the time of his transfer and was somewhat rated ahaed of Sterling.

Martial was £35m(rising to £58m) if he won the league, CL and Ballon d’Or awards. He has failed to match that expectation so his transfer fee is technically £35m.

Sterling was £50m.

oliverano:
Aquero on the other hand was a goal scorer, a pure striker so his numbers will fare better than that of Oga Rooney who was always behind the main striker and even played in midfield occasionally.

Someone needs to tell me why Rooney was played behind main striker. How come Lewandowski, Haaland, Suarez, Aguero are never asked to play in the midfield?

oliverano:
My pont is that while City went for a World Class coach, United settled for Mediocrity(Ole)
A classic case of a good coach is what happened at Chelsea last season and Bayern the season before. With Lampard, Chelsea won't be UCL winners.

Ole is clueless but if we are being fair, we cannot blame him for Rooney, Schneiderlin, Mata, Schweinsteiger or Martial. All these players had declined long before Ole arrived. Ole didn’t even meet Schmidfield & Rooney at United.

oliverano:
Replace Ole with Conte and United will be a very serious team to compete against.
But I get your point sha...safe!!!

Replace Ole with Tunde Disu and United will be a serious team to compete against. Oasis007 would take United to a PL title within 9 months, Expert17 would win CL under 2 seasons with Ole’s team.

elampiro:
You know ball

Sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut so that people won’t think of you as being a stüpid fellow.

So that poorly put together image designed by a brain dead blogger is proof that Rooney was better than Aguero?

Unfortunately for you RooneyBots, there are statistics on the internet to silence this myth once and for all that Rooney is a better player than Aguero.


Aguero played half the number of minutes Rooney played in the PL and the Argentine was only 20 goals away from eclipsing Rooney’s entire career goals in England. Aguero arrived in the PL 9 years after Rooney’s debut.

Aguero averaged a goal every 128 minutes in his entire career to Rooney’s 1 goal every 192 minutes.

SMH!

Android17:
I know you think you can type a load of gibberish and hope some modicum of sense will be lodged in the heap. I am here to announce to you that you are still loading up on the bullocks. Is Guardiola, Moyes? Do Manchester City and Everton have the same mandate? Do players in those teams have the same objective? What errant nonsense is this? And to think that you were just talking about false equivalencies.

12 hours later. This fool has refused to take on the challenge posed to him. What stupid mandate are you talking about? If you have a brilliant player in your academy, the surest way of keeping him is by playing him and aligning your plans to fit into his ambitions.

Pep failed to do this and the player wanted out. It’s as simple as that. You have travelled thousands of miles to defend Pep in this but your blockhead refused to ask the $64K question: why would Sancho want to leave a set up as brilliant as City. They have the best school in Europe. He had already had training sessions with David Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero, etc.

There was no reason for him to leave if he hadn’t felt betrayed to leave. However, you are too useless upstairs to even give this a logical thought. Your tonsils are permanently jammed in Pep’s bütt, it would take 5 Fire Departments to rescue you.

Android17:
Another worthless and meaningless deflection. Where is the evidence for your claim? Can you prove where anybody made Sancho promises in 2016/17?

Yet another idiötic rebuttal.

Without promises, there wouldn’t be expectations. Without expectations, there wouldn’t be a feeling of betrayal.

Sancho left because what was said didn’t match what was happening.

Android17:
Let me get this straight, so Sancho left because he felt he would not get regular playing time in the first team and not that the manager did not promote him, Brahim and Foden to the first team? So you are slyly conceding to what I have been saying all the while even though you are trying to sneak in the phrase "clear pathway". Whose pathway is clear? How would you know for e.g that AWB is going to be a regular in the first team this season?

Sancho left because the manager didn’t promote him. Pep had trouble in his debut season and he was scared to play youth players even in dead rubber games. And for every Man City loss in 2016/17, Pep never spoke about giving the academy boys a chance, he always opined he would look into the market to get replacements.

Sancho wasn’t ready for that long game or hoping things might turn around. He dumped Pep because Pep was too scared to play him. Sancho wasn’t promoted(your original lie) so I don’t know why you are still here saving face. You are a pathological liar. We have asked you to provide one link where Sancho was promoted, the only article you could find was “set to be promoted”.

Android17:
By the way, stop attaching that screen shot as your evidence. I actually feel ashamed for you. Do you know what the idiom "playing the long game" means?

You should feel ashamed for the person that birthed you. They sent you to school and the best outcome was for you to come to a forum and lie without dignity.

If you aren’t lying about witnessing Sancho’s promotion at Man City campus, you are lying about “some of you” reading an Athletic article you are incapable of accessing.

You are a disgrace to your lineage.

Mrcapability7:
This really confirm your knowledge about football is limited bro you don't watch football bro. All you do write english m not so sure you can even speak with useless sta and insulting everyone who tried to engage you in discourse. Watch live match

Aguero isn't Rooney mate as long as football is concerned. Rooney is 200 times high and shoulder above aguero as football is concern.

As striker you might say aguero is better with goal ratio but as footballer ROONEY 100 times player aguero was/us

This is useless comparison.

Rooney is overall footballer, he attacked, he defend, orchestrated attack, create chances. While aguero spend his time in 18 box waiting to be feed.


Rooney started as a striker but he spent his entire career been played out of position by Manchester United and England.

You wanna bring sta to argue your point ? Ok bring aguero assists compared to Rooney

Learn how to watch live football stop this stat of thing it is valid to judge players career achievement but it is irrelevant when it comes to player abilities bro.


If it is by sta players like Ronaldinho, zidane, iniesta and paul Scholes etc got nothing on other footballers

You have no common sense.

No one ever asked Lewandowski, Aguero, Ronaldo De Lima and other great strikers to play out of position. You know why? Because they are bloody good at one thing - goal scoring.

Rooney was asked to play everywhere because his managers knew there was always one player in his team better at goal scoring than he does. I am not your biased goat who would put everything Man Utd over other teams because of club rivalry.

Aguero is heads and shoulders above Rooney - in everything. It’s not even close. Aguero scored more goals for City in 10 years than Rooney did at United in 13 years.

Android17:
Look at who is talking about false equivalencies. Are all young talents the same? Are all clubs the same? Are all managers the same? Do all clubs have the same set of players? So why ask me a daft question about what David Moyes did in Everton FC with Rooney?

You are a morön……

Sancho had already done what Rooney couldn’t do at age 16. There was a tournament(Elite Neon Cup) in Greece in the summer of 2015 where Sancho destroyed all put before him. City youths won that tournament.

There was plenty of credits for Sancho to have at least played as a sub in one of the domestic cup games that season but Pep wouldn’t budge because Pep never believed in the lad.

Android17:
As soon as you are cornered you respond with insults or you try to deflect from the argument. Either ways, this attempt above is pisspoor. Be creative.

Shut up your filthy mouth and stop deflecting. You lied pathologically that you have read the article I posted. I gave you 120 minutes to show me what you read by posting the paragraph that was immediately after the excerpt I posted. You are too dirt poor to take on the challenge and your best rebuttal was that I respond with insults.

Do you not possess any iota of shame in you?

We are waiting for you to present where the article posited that Jadon was never given a chance or whatever nonsense you typed.

I have already proven that but your cognitive reasoning is sub par.

I will try again: Sancho didn’t want empty promises like the season before. He didn’t want to spend the next year waiting for the possibility of a 2 minute appearance from the bench in a dead rubber game.

Sancho finessed his exit because there wasn’t a clear pathway to the first team and he wasn’t going to sit around and pick his nose in the hope of being groomed as a long-term replacement for Leroy Sane who was only 21 years of age back then.

Oasis007:
Solskjaer on Man Utd transfers: “Anything from now is a bonus after Sancho and Varane. You never know in football. Anything can happen, ins and outs. Varane hasn’t done his medical yet but that should be okay. I’m very pleased with what we’ve done”.

This Norwegian fraud has no standard.

A midfield as weak as Man Utd’s needs to be fixed. How can any manager with the ambition to win the PL title accept that midfield and said anything added is a bonus?

By March, this lunatic would move the goalposts that the midfield needs fixing after he finds himself 25 points behind the league leaders.

Android17:
I don't know if this is a joke but you come off as unresearched, out of your depth and whimsical. So Carlos Alberto Parreira should have started Ronaldo de Lima in 1994 world cup because he was "already killing his classmates and professionals on the football pitch?"

We are talking about club football, you möron.

The several false equivalencies you throw into arguments is exactly why I was able to spot your idiöcy from the jump.

Android17:
You think you are sly but you are just making a fool of yourself if we are being honest. Your question presupposes that any player was always as good as they eventually became - which is daft.


If you can point to any part of the athletic article titled "A prodigy in a hurry: the rapid rise of Jadon Sancho, Manchester United’s £73m man" that even remotely suggested the highlighted please present it. I have told you, avoid certain people when trying these your futile games. Some of us have read every article you want to present.

The same athletic article you are too poor to subscribe to? “Some of us have read every article…….” - who are the us? This simpleton is actually trying to fit himself into the elite class.

I dare you to post the next paragraph of the image I posted earlier if its true you have read every article I may want to present. You have 120 mins to prove you are not a church rat. I dare you and every member of your entire village.

Tick tock……

Mrcapability7:
You need to watch football bro stop relying on useless sta to argue watch live football. Aguero is better than Wayne Rooney lol. If it is by sta then Lampard was better than Scholes.


Watch match leave sta alone anyway i don't even if you know how to kick a ball

Hahahahaha.

How many golden boots did Rooney win in the PL in his 16 seasons in England?

Yeah, the excuse would be, he never really played as a striker, he was a #10.

How many times did Rooney top the assist chart in his 16 seasons in England?

Another excuse would be, he wasn’t really a #10, he was a centre forward.

If you don’t get rid of the media brainwash you have been fed, you will never know better. Rooney is a good player in his own rights but he’s at least 2 tiers below Aguero.

Android17:
LOL. Your story is completely false, man. Pep just came in 2016/17 - he had to watch and observe the youth team to know which players were ready. He identified 3 of them and invited them to join the first team tour July 2017. Jadon gave a gentleman's agreement that he will sign it but after talking to his handlers, decided against it because he felt his competitors in City would stagnate his growth - he wanted regular first team appearances. Emphasis on regular. That is why he refused to sign the contract and Pep told him not to travel to the USA in that case. Jadon then signed with Dortmund - when the first team were in the USA.

So it took him 9 months to watch a player that was already killing his classmates on the football pitch averaging almost a goal per game?

How old was Rooney when Moyes gave him a PL debut?

Your stupidity will sink the titanic.

Android17:
LOL. You do know 16/17 was Pep's first season in City, right?

So? Pep couldn’t play Sancho anytime from August 2016 till May 2017?

Android17:
There is a reason you always use abusive words. It is simply aimed at obfuscating your vacuous arguments. The idiom "set for" just means to be prepared, to be ready and so on. The caption is saying that United is preparing to do it. How so? They started training with the first team - this was February 2021 (Just like Pep invited Jadon to do, apart from offering him a first team level contract in July 2017). Then, 3 months after, Ole gave both players their debut - that is what made them first team players officially (same way Pep gave Foden and Brahim - even Tosin Adarabioyo, their own debuts). Like I told you before, Jadon left by early August 2017 - before he got a chance to get his debut.

Idiocy flows in your varicose veins.

Your ego won’t allow you to chop your L with cold water but since you chose violence, I would drag your face on the floor of a public toilet.

The long and short of this discourse is that Sancho never got the promotion you have been lying about and this is why you cannot find any article expressively stating so.

Below is another evidence that Pep never gave Sancho a chance in spite of his prodigious talents.