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Android17:
Let me tell you what stupid is. You started by arguing that Sancho was not promoted. I proved that he was. You could not refute it then your next ploy is to ask me why one of those reasons did not apply to other players - and you are talking about someone else missing the point.
Stop asking me about Phil Foden or any other irrelevant question. You have conceded that Sancho was promoted which was the bone of contention. Find other means to salvage your reputation. This one has flopped hard.

Stupidity powers your circulation system.

You didn’t prove anything. You are still making the mistake of assuming contracts is linked to promotion - it is not. Sancho wasn’t promoted. A contract offer isn’t promotion.

Foden was ‘promoted’ without signing a contract. That is the point your greasy head has failed to grasp for more than a week. Stop this idiotic theory of yours that a contract offer is the same as promotion.

That was when you died. Stop saving face because you are too stupid to admit your MD analogy is as stupid as your conception. NL credibility will not add any money into your account.

Go home, work hard, save money so you can afford to subscribe to quality sports media that would give you enough knowledge to debate sporting issues on a public forum.

Dullard!

Android17:
I admire your ability to delude yourself.
From Sancho was not promoted to why did Phil Foden travel on tour without a new contract?
Why not ask me if Foden's name was mentioned as one of those promoted? Why not ask me if Foden played and trained with the first team after the tour? Because it proves what you had been arguing against. But go ahead, delude yourself some more.

You are a fool of epic proportions.

After lying to us contracts are tied to promotion, you quickly realized your folly when I pointed to you that wasn’t the case for Foden.

Your not-so-high IQ suddenly realized Man City couldn’t have treated the 2 players(Foden and Sancho) of the same age differently and that was when your argument fell flat in its face.

Like I said, you should have stayed in school and taken more logic classes, you miserable cünt!

elampiro:
Give us the stats for
Iniesta
Ronadinho
KDB
Fabrehas
Lampard

I am not your pastor.

Do the research yourself and tell me what you found.

Fact remains Rooney is a striker, started out as a striker before he was deemed not good enough and he was moved back a little to accommodate those that have a natural ability for scoring.

elampiro:
1. Rooney is not a number 9. He is an AM

According to ElampSports in Adamawa?

Just because Rooney failed as a #9 doesn’t mean you should lie in public.

elampiro:
2. Tell me why Fabregas has more goals and Assists than Iniesta and Ronaldinho? Even Di Maria might even fair better. We are talking about figures now

This is amateur talk.

Ronaldinho was actually more prolific than Cesc Fabregas. You are looking at Cesc’s volume of goals and assists without considering the number of minutes played.

Ronaldinho scored 1 goal in every 217 minutes in his career, Cesc scored a goal in every 417 minutes in his career. Ronaldinho is twice as prolific as Fabregas despite playing as a left wing forward at his peak.

Android17:
Very poor strawman.
Sancho was offered a contract and told he will feature in the first team. Sancho said put it in writing then I will believe you. MCFC refused and Sancho refused to sign the contract. Is that hard? Don't forget this proves Sancho was indeed promoted which is what brought us into this. Reply with insults, that is all you are really good for.

You are missing the point here - I don’t know if it’s deliberate to hide your previous stupidity or it’s a blind spot for you.

You had said Sancho didn’t go to preseason(promotion) because he had refused to sign. You linked the signing of his contract directly to his promotion.

So I asked, why wasn’t this the same for Foden? Foden should never have been on the plane to preseason when his own contract talk was only up 18 months later. City should have waited for Foden to also sign his contract before putting him on a plane for preseason.


It’s just simple logic and you keep failing. Your only rebuttal to this was that players are treated differently. So in your company, the MD position can be leveraged to get an employee’s signature while another employee of the same age can become the MD without having to worry about signing any contract regarding the role.


If this doesn’t make you look stupid, nothing else would.

Android17:
When the veracity of a claim cannot be ridiculed, a weak debater tries to ridicule the source.

I like how my victims turn philosophical after getting battered.

Go and sin no more.

It’s a wrap!

elampiro:
By your own logic, Lampard, Fabregas, arr greater than Iniester and Ronaldinho since only goals and figures matter in football.

Mr Coogar, you are expired.

Lampard and Fabregas are midfielders. Scoring goals isn’t their primary objective. If they have goals in them, it’s a bonus.

Rooney and Aguero are strikers. Aguero has shown he’s more prolific than Rooney and you are typing nonsense.

Then you dived deeper into the nonsense by using Ballon d’Or as the determinant. Torres finished above Rooney ever did in Ballon d’Or ranking so is Torres better than Rooney?

I am destroying all y’all charlatans tonight.

No mercy.

Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent.

But but but “All players are not the same”

Only Sancho was offered the contract for the MD position. Foden and Diaz are different players so they were treated differently.

For Sancho, he must sign the contract to become an MD or lose the position. However, for Foden, he can become the MD for18 solid months before signing the MD contract.

This is another reason why women should take enough Folic acid during pregnancy - any inadequacy and the child starts to display this level of incoherent, inconsistent twaddle.

Android17:
So you can't answer my question? Good. See the highlighted portion, I did not make the claim, an article did so. Remember?

You made the claim before finding a junk article that partially supports the same claim.

Of all the websites to bring up as evidence, you cited MEN?

You are a charlatan.

Android17:
What agreement was thought to be imminent? Stop with the useless whataboutisms. All players are not the same and all camps are not the same so asking me about Foden and Diaz just shows you have lost big time on this and are trying to change the narrative to something else.

You are a möron!

All players are not the same? Really?

After lying to us for hours that had Sancho signed his contract, it would have been the gateway to the preseason tour(promotion) and his refusal to sign was the reason Pep didn’t take him to preseason, you have the audacity to say all players aren’t the same?

You are a brainless charlatan.

Android17:
L L. Provide where in the screenshot this was implied. I am waiting.

Your stupidity knows no bounds. You have reduced this whole argument to your poor use of English.

Look at the sentence again and stop disgracing your school. An agreement was thought to be imminent - This simply means City thought there was an agreement but Sancho backed away from whatever psychotic idea City thought they had.

In short, there was never an agreement(at least, none on Sancho’s side of the table). City only felt so. If there was an agreement, it would be on paper(Sancho’s signature with wet ink).

Meanwhile, why were the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion not existent with Foden and Diaz?

Can you answer this question and nail your own coffin so I can debate more important people on this thread?

You died when you linked Sancho’s contract to his promotion. Foden/Diaz proved contracts and promotion are two different entities.

I bet you wish you could take that back.

Bloody charlatan.

Android17:
Your own screenshots. Do you see the phrase "any longer"? It shows you that he had considered the contract but did not want to - any longer. Remember your own screenshot shows you that an agreement [concerning the 30,000 GBP contract] that was thought to be imminent fell through because Sancho backed away. Yet an intellectual superior skipped all that to say . . . nonsense.

No no no, don’t be stupid.

He didn’t wish to be a City player “any longer”.

Android17:
L L. I am literally using your own article. This is funny. Your article says he backed away from the contract he was offered and you say he backed away from being a MCFC player. I expect you to insult your own article now.

“An agreement was thought to be imminent……”

City thought they had an agreement. I am not insulting the article. I am insulting your cognitive and deductive reasoning.

elampiro:
Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.

With this logic of yours….

Torres finished ahead of Rooney in FIFA Ballon D’Or rankings. Torres finished 3rd, made world XIs. Rooney cannot talk when Torres is mentioned.

I want to see how you untie yourself from this web of fallacies you have tied yourself into.

You have 72 hours to respond.

By the time I am through with all you NL oldies, you would ALL acknowledge my awesomeness.

Android17:
L L. The reason your analogy works is because you had initially COMMITTED to eating rice and stew. Which means you wanted it before. Sancho had not made up his mind to leave, therefore QED. Your own argument defeats you. I don't have time for your weak attempts at deflecting from the crux of the issue.

Your use of English is terrible.

Sancho “backed away” cos he wished to no longer be an employee of Man City. QED.

120 hours later, you still haven’t told us why the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion didn’t apply to Diaz and Foden.

That was where you died - everything else you have typed is just saving face.

I’m your intellectual god.

BlueAngel444:
it go shock you, but hope say you wear slippers

What will shock me?

If Poch succeeds, he’s expected to. Nobody would raise any eyebrow that he’s a genius with the number of talents in his squad.

If he fails, there would be no mercy. One bad result and the hammer would drop on his head. There are way too many brilliant managers in Europe to persist with Poch.

PSG have big ambitions, they aren’t like Man Utd who have decided to remain stuck with a failure for the next 3 years.

Android17:
In March 2017 "his mind was made up" but in July 30 2017 "he backed away". L L.
You only "pull back" and "stop negotiations" if you were moving forward or negotiating.
Question, why did he "back away"? Because a problem could not be resolved. What problem? Another article spelled it out.
You have now gone on to attack that article - and you call others lunatics. L L.

The “backed away” phrase was used because he was expected to sign.

What kind of deductive reasoning is this you are displaying? Sancho was a City player through and through. If he rejected any contract, it means he was not going to be a City player going forward thus the phrase back away.

You went to a restaurant, asked for the menu, picked rice and stew, food was served and you changed your mind that you don’t want the food again, you have backed away. You don’t have to start eating the food before one could say you backed away.

You should have stayed in school.

Android17:
All your stupid questions will not obfuscate clear facts. You said prove he was promoted I gave 3 reasons.
1. Announcement by CEO and Pep 2.) His contract 3.) The pre-season tour. You ignored all and said as long as he did not play during the season he was not promoted. I asked you how he would have played when he left before the season begun?

And I have asked you why these steps weren’t taken with Foden and Diaz before going for the preseason tour? Foden signed his contract 18 months after going for a preseason tour. If the steps you listed are really the precursor to a promotion, City would have waited for Foden to sign his contract before going for any preseason tour.

Since that isn’t the case, it means all what you listed are bunk. They have nothing to do with the contract. You only managed to conjure that crap in your head by linking his contract to his promotion and using the role of an MD as a crutch.

You are a simpleton!

Android17:
You hopped back to contract - then I showed you how he, in numerous articles, said the issue was about regular playing time. One article said he wanted it included into his contract - proving to you that he did not want a gentleman's agreement - he did not want the long game that Harry Kane is currently facing.

Which numerous articles? MEN is the only article you have provided as evidence and every football fan and his dog knows MEN is the media for ex-convicts that cannot afford quality articles penned by The Athletic.

Android17:
PS: There are no 30 articles concerning Jadon leaving City on the athletic. L L. It is easy to prove as well but I digress.

You have been found out. No matter how you shake it, you are intellectually inferior.

Android17:
I used your own screenshot, analyzed each sentence and showed you how the athletic article paralleled with all the other stories - it is only the one made up in your self-absorbed, deluded and conspiratorial mind that differs.

You are a pathological liar, bros.

There’s no parallel here. The Athletic simply said Sancho and Foden are ambitious brats but Foden was more grounded because of his Manchester background and because his family are all city fans while Sancho was impatient.

By the time the contract was tabled, Sancho had made up his mind that he wasn’t going to wait to get a cameo in a dead rubber game against Bournemouth.

Android17:
I asked you why Sancho would want the number of appearances he would have in the first team, written into that contract if that contract was not sold to him as a promotional one. Until you answer the question, you have nothing to stand on.

I couldn’t answer that because there’s no evidence that actually happened . I scoured over 30 articles on The Athletic about Sancho’s contracts and none of the articles wrote anything like that because it’s unreasonable.

You scooped that from MEN - a junk sports media designed for society degenerates like yourself so they don’t feel left out about the happenings in world football. There’s no way a 17 year old would insist the number of appearances should be claused in his contract in a club as massive as Man City.

The MEN article was probably written by a lunatic like you to make Sancho look bad. A ploy club’s PRs had always used to appease the fans that might be agitated that Sancho was lost. “It’s not our fault, guys. We tried everything but that boy was unreasonable.”

I remember Ronaldinho also wanting a Helipad before coming to Man Utd. You have to be the biggest idiöt on the planet to believe such crap. Sancho never asked for that, he wasn’t going to sign for City because Pep took too long to play him in the senior team.

Android17:
Win an argument with you? You, who have conceded that Sancho was promoted?

The mind of a lunatic.

The first thing a very good psychologist would have noticed about you is that you suffer from acute psychosis. You are reading/seeing things that didn’t happen.

I have asked you to tell me why Foden got promoted to the senior team before his contract was up - you cannot answer. I hope you haven’t forgotten how you drew a parallel by comparing Sancho’s contract to the role of a managing director.

You lied to the whole world Sancho’s contract guaranteed his promotion and if that’s the case, why didn’t Man City wait until Foden’s contract was signed before taking him to a preseason tour?

You are a blithering idiöt!

Oasis007:
Poch should play Messi as 10, behind Trio of Naymar, Icardi and Mbappe or Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria.

Wij and Verrati as DMs pivot. Hakimi, Marquinhos, Ramos and Diallo as CBs and FBs.

Poch is the weakest link in that set up. He’s one poor result away from getting sacked and there are plenty of elite managers that would take his place.

The expectation right now is through the roof. If Poch doesn’t win a treble with this team, questions would be asked, all manner of inquests would appear from various mainstream media.

This team should work for Poch but Poch is Ole’s cousin so I am predicting his sack letter by Christmas.

Android17:
I have patience for slow people.
Jadon -2015 scholarship to expire 2018, so offer him the best contract possible and announce promotion 2017 before Bosman rule can kick in. Phil Foden - 2016 scholarship to expire 2019 so offer him a contract 2018 before Bosman rule (announce promotion to first team July 2017).
Do you notice how Foden does not ask for playing time in his contract in 2018 like Jadon did? That is how 2 different human beings behave - one player was willing to play the long game, the other was not.

You are a blithering idiöt..

You said Sancho’s contract was the offer that he was guaranteed to be promoted that summer and he would have been promoted had he accepted the offer in March 2017. So how come Foden was “promoted”(taken to preseason) before he was given an offer?

I am asking you this question to destroy your earlier point that Sancho’s contract is tied to his promotion, that’s a lie you managed to put together cos you are a very stupid person during an argument. You even went as far as comparing it to the role of Managing Director - characteristic of a room temperature IQ in display.

If indeed contracts are tied to promotion, City would have waited until Foden’s contract was up in 2018 before giving him promotion(taken to a preseason tour) - just like you stupidly lied about Sancho. That wasn’t the case.

As for Foden not asking for anything or playing the long game, that’s understandable. He was born in a family of City fans and he’s a local boy. He knew sooner than later that his chance would come.

Sancho signed for Watford at age 8, left his family house at age 11 in Kennington to board at Harefield academy in Uxbridge. He has always been in a hurry to get things done. He was only 13 years of age when he was playing against boys of 16 years of age at Watford academy.

He was never the type to stay stagnant. He was too ambitious for that and by the time he turned 15, he told Watford he was going to join Man City. So what part of his previous behavioral traits gave City the audacity to keep him waiting in the fringes before sending him to the deep waters?

City should have known he was not going to wait for long - and they should have pushed him to at least appear in a dead rubber game in 16/17, they didn’t and they lost him.

Android17:
Now that your deflections have flopped bad again, please answer: Sancho "already made up his mind" to leave in March 2017 yet he waited till after MCFC refused to include playing time in that contract late July 2017 to reject it - why? See reference below.

You must be very stupïd to be holding a MEN article as the gospel as per what happened with Sancho. There’s a reason such articles are easily accessible to moröns like you: they are not properly researched.

According to the Athletic, Sancho was already impatient before the contract offer was presented to him. This is why you will never win an argument with me - because you research from junk articles and you use it as a crutch to debate your intellectual superiors.

Get the fück outta my face, you despicable cünt!

elampiro:
Opta muddled up the roles of Striker, SS, AM, RF, LF in the earlier years. Even as at 2010, 2011, they muddled up FW, SS, AM roles as all forwards in most of the times. Opta evolved over time. What opta did before 2012 is that when it registered a player as a striker in the beginning of the season, it keeps counting FW for that player irrespective of the teams formation in matches and how the player was used. Same way, if it counts a player as an AM, it goes on auto mode.

Opta has evolved. If it were those days, it would still have been registering KDB as a winger in every match

OPTA muddled stats?

You are a joke!

elampiro:
Only one match as support striker or one season. Mtchew

Compared to Rooney who never had even one season as a striker. He was in the wing right from his debut season. Nilsterooy, Smith, Saha, Tevez, Berbatov, Chacharito, Van Person were our strikers. Sometimes Welbeck still still strike.

Unlike Aguero who was mostly the striker throughout his years.

Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.

Who told you it was only one match?

I only gave you an example by highlighting that one match against United at OT.

Aguero played 94 games in his career as a second striker and 72 of those games were for Man City.

P.S. Aguero did not play all his games at City as a striker contrary to what you wrote.

Go and sin no more.

Android17:
If only you will research properly rather than reply capriciously all the time. Sancho was signed to the academy scholarship in 2015, Phil was signed 2016. See the underlined and keep deceiving yourself. The only reason he wanted assurances "written" into the contract is because they had verbally told him what the contract signified. If your conspiracy nonsense was anything to go by, don't you think Sancho would have rejected that contract since March - you said he was offered? L L

Look at this idïot.

You have been lying to us that Sancho’s contract was tied to his promotion. Even after you were told Foden signed his contract in Dec 2018 AFTER he was promoted in the summer of 2017, the penny still didn’t drop for you?

Every young player has an academy scholarship. It’s totally different to what we are discussing. Don’t muddy the waters with your stupïdity. Sancho was offered £30,000 per week contract in March 2017 - you told us that contract was tied to him being promoted - which he turned down.

If the contract was the promotion, how come Foden was promoted before signing his own contract in December 2018? Can you not see the foolishness in your logic?

So let me get this straight - You claim Sancho’s contract in March 2017 was the promotion offer. So Sancho was given an offer before promotion but Foden was given a contract after promotion in 2018?

You are a disgrace to your lineage.

Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent.

Football contract isn’t for an MD position. It’s to tie him down for a certain number of years and retain him as an employee.

Sancho was offered a contract - the contract didn’t signify he was being promoted. They were just keeping him in ice for the foreseeable future.

If you have any IQ, you would notice that Diaz & Foden weren’t given any contracts that year but they ended up going for City’s preseason.

In actuality, Foden didn’t sign his contract until December 2018(£30,000 per week). Sancho was offered his contract around March 2017.

A contract is a contract, it’s got nothing to do with being promoted. I brilliantly led you to this cul-de-sac so you can “unalive” yourself in the presence of everyone.

Joe Hugill, Charlie McNeill, Woolstoon all have contracts at Man Utd, they are nowhere near being promoted. Instead of you to sit and learn when your superiors are dropping gems, you are puffing chest like an orangutan.

Oasis007:


Haaland don net Hatrick, while Martial dey net Heartattack.

When i mentioned his prowess when he netted 40 goals last season, RooneyBots rose in arms to attack me that Haaland is overrated.

I still think Martial is better though - you just need to renew your vows every preseason that the #9 shirt is his until 2050.

Android17:
Once any man resorts to that, just know he knows his argument lacks substance.

Says the plonker that is equating giving contracts to a player to his promotion.

If you are dafter than this, you would be a pawpaw fruit.

BikeMan:
Just informing you to anticipate Lukaku content from me this season. About to spam here till you cry.

Go ahead, please.

It’s inevitable that Lukaku would bully Maguire at some point this season.

elampiro:
Who is collating the statistics? Opta? You want to us to believe anything from anywhere? Rooney played as a striker in only one season.

Stats are screwed if his AM role is counted as a striker

We shouldn’t believe OPTA, but we should believe you from the dungeons of Adamawa state near Cameroon.

These RooneyBots make me laugh.

Oasis007:
Haaland don net brace. He's a fuckin Goals Machine. United should go all out for him next Season.

I disagree, Martial is better.

Ole just needs to coach him and we must keep promising him that we won’t attempt giving his #9 shirt to any striker again. He might be 26 in age, but he’s 12 in his body. There’s plenty of time to prove himself.

Martial - ice cold, bald assassin, fully gloved in any weather, no smile, came from Monaco, media said no chance, defenders have families, dripping in sauce, sauce on spill, winner, Europe ain’t ready, greatest talent of all time, treble incoming, it’s really Martial’s season, Martial FC eating Gucci.

BlueAngel444:
Lol you finally mentioned it yourself

It was hard resisting the temptation to, remember Aguero played behind Dzeko and other number 9s signed in City.

Some of us have memories, unlike the RooneyBots.

nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd

I won’t allow your comment to get buried under the dross posts.

Brendan Rodgers - hired after the Norwegian fraud has been stacking trophies on a fraction of the amount Ole has spent but Olesexuals keep lying to us that the fraud has done a phenomenal job at Old Trafford.

The excuse is that Ole is building United through cultural reboot to achieve sustainable success. You have to wonder whether Brendan is building Leicester for a short term success at this point.