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Bombblacks:
You didn't answer my question. What is football without the fans watching them or buying their merchandise?

There wouldn’t even be a stadium to go to if there are no club owners.

Bombblacks:
Do you have a connection to your club? What is football with people paying to watch them and buying their merchandise?

They are just consumers.

Football provides entertainment and you pay to watch the entertainment. Just like you paying to watch an opera. It’s a transactional business. This is why most club owners don’t rate football fans.

You(as a fan) do not have the rights to decide how the opera must play to your taste or complain that the soprano of one of the members of an opera isn’t strong enough. Those are some of the entitlements football fans get to enjoy.

Imagine someone as daft as QueenAlabi sitting in the stands bellowing match tips at world class athletes. “Come on KDB, cross it! Yeah yeah, make the run, drop back”.

The audacity!

Bombblacks:
That's because you have no connection to the club your support.

What silly connection?

You people overrate yourselves.

You are a mere phytoplankton of the footballing food chain.

raumdeuter:
Its similar to what Bayern Ultra did to Neuer in 2011, Koan Neuer signs all over the place and when he signed for Bayern they gave him the commandment below. It was until Ulli threatened to take out their stand and replace them with high paying corporate seats

1) Neuer must never simulate or initiate the team's megaphone chants.

2) Neuer must not kneel before the team and sing the 'Humba' song.

3) Neuer is prohibited from approaching the South Stand fence.

4) Neuer should not throw his shirt into the South Stand.

5) Neuer may not kiss the Bavarian crest

Football fans rub me the wrong way.

The average football fan is one of the most deluded and over-sentimentalised creatures in modern life. Our judgement is utterly flawed and we often overrate ourselves in the grand scheme of things.

Imagine football fans issuing Fatwa on a player that has chosen to come play for them. A whole Neuer for that matter. The audacity is hilarious. After winning virtually everything, has their stance on Neuer changed over the years? Do they see him as a hero now or they still think he’s shït?

melodyogonna:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN-8hyZxdyg
Where we go see CM wey dey knock ball like this?
Midfielders like this guy, Iniesta, Scholes, Xavi, Pirlo, etc are the kind of midfielders I love watching. Players that oozes confidence, control, and calmness. When they get the ball you immediately see they've got technique. Pogba too plays this way but you can't just shrug off this feeling that he is kind of lethargic on the ball, if he is just a tad bit faster ... and shorter, nobody can touch him in midfield.

Pogba does this every time he plays for France. At United, nobody really makes intelligent runs apart from Rashford who can also be erratic with his runs.

Martial wants ball to feet - one of the laziest forwards in the history of the game. Daniel James has no directional sense and he’s also erratic at controlling the ball.

With France, Griezmann, Mbappe and Benzema made perfect runs and Pogba was finding them with ease. He had the most through passes in the Euros despite getting kicked out in the round of 16.

Pogba is the best midfielder on the planet - he can do everything and that sometimes work against him. When Man City or United concede goals, nobody every blames KDB or Bruno but someway somehow Pogba gets blamed.

Pogba is the only midfielder expected to defend, score, assist, and basically do everything in the midfield. When he doesn’t score, KDB/Bruno is better than him. When his team concedes, he’s automatically compared to Kante. One player gets compared to AMs, CMs and CDMs at the same time.

It’s insane!

Expert17:
Pogboom Pogboom Pogbooom

PSG fans rejecting a world class player



Pogba, you should listen to your mother. She doesn't want you here, neither do we.

It’s a club rivalry thing. Pogba had made some nasty comments about PSG in the past. It’s got nothing to do with skills.

Gueye, Herrera and many other bums are playing for PSG, so why wouldn’t they want Pogba if it’s about football skill?

This is the back story…..

patrickmuf:
Lamptey will see AWB forgotten entirely although his explosive style of play leaves him open to injuries...

I like that explosive style - he reminds me of Rafael when he first arrived and everyone quickly forgot about Gary Neville.

patrickmuf:
No doubt about his signing, he is levels above Lindelof however, I hope Ole doesn't have favs as usual, all of them should battle for their place in the team...

If Lindelof steps up, then any of them that slacks should be benched...Let everyone fight to keep his place in the team.

I don’t think Lindelof can do better than what he’s offered so far. His ceiling isn’t very high. However, it’s better to have options like we do in case any of them has a long term injury.

I heard Woodward is after Trippier. I don’t understand that signing at all. If someone should be signed to improve Wan Bissaka like Telles improved Shaw, it should be that boy in Brighton(Tariq Lamptey).

patrickmuf:
Arsenal fans are using this line to comeback against Man Utd fans and other rivals on Twitter...

In the long run, we will prolly spend more or thereabout...

It’s still an excellent signing. His wages shouldn’t matter.

Varane has won 18 club competitions, he’s won more CL titles than United and Arsenal put together. I don’t have any problem at all with his signing. He’s better than Maguire/Lindelof.

Oasis007:
So Ndidi is all you seek right?!

Ndidi(first choice)

Camara(Salzburg)
Camavinga(Celta Vigo)
Doucoure(Lens)

Oasis007:
I prefer Camavinga though. He's young and more mobile than Ndidi.

His numbers are better going forward. One would be getting less than half of his amazing talents by asking him to sit in the DM position.

I want a stationary pillar in the DM. We already have two creative midfielders in Pogba and Bruno. Putting Camavinga there to join them is an overkill. Who would defend if we lose the ball?

Oasis007:
Ndidi

He’s the best and the most elite fit for this role.

Camavinga is also decent but he has more to give going forward than restricting him to the role of a water carrier.

I also like the look of Renato Tapia of Celta Vigo. The Peruvian even gets busier than Ndidi in snapping at the ankles of any intruder in his zone. He’s like prime Makelele. He misses nothing in his area.

Oasis007:


A new solid CDM.

If we couldn't get any, Matic should be managed and assisted by McTominay. Fred deputising for Pogba, while VDB/Mata deputising for Bruno.

United just need an elite DM that can intercept and loves to defend. He doesn’t even need to know how to carry the ball forward.

Tackle/intercept > Win the ball > Pass it 5-10 yards to Pogba or Bruno.

Oasis007:
Raphaël Varane will cost Manchester United £34m plus add-ons and will sign a four-year contract plus the option of an extra year.

- David Ornstein



.........Yet Arsenal pay £50m for Barry White.

Varane will be on £400k/week at United though.

Oasis007:
With Signing of Varane, OGS has no reason to play McFred again. I will be mad at Ed, if Jones is not sold or released.

Who should he play in the midfield?

engrelvis:
wasn't Mou sacked after winning EPL for Chelsea after how many yrs?

You can’t compare Abramovic to FSG.

Abramovic would have sacked Klopp after his 2nd trophyless season at Anfield.

If they didn’t sack him after 3 years of winning nothing for them, It’s damn near impossible for him to be sacked if he fails to win the league again.

Klopp’s future at Liverpool is secure. He’s untouchable.

Oasis007:
Raphaël Varane to Manchester United a done deal for €50m plus bonuses. Medicals in two days.

- Di Marzio

Just collect Jones’ number and give to Varane.

Sell Jones to Rangers Enugu.

Bombblacks:
On what basis is this statement made and why is Tuchel there?

Because those other managers have what it takes to win the Premier League, Ole doesn’t have it.

raumdeuter:
I dont think Ole can win the league too and I am actually happy he was extended. Man Utd is a dangerous team because they are rich . They only need a good coach to be elite in Europe

With Ole at the wheels one less team to worry about

Ole at the wheels is a vehicular homicide.

melodyogonna:
Klopp is getting sacked this season, mark this as prophecy

Liverpool will sack the manager that won them the PL title for the first time in 30 years?

Bombblacks:
Did Ole not finish above Klopp last season?

Ole cannot finish above those 3 managers in a single season is the point.

If he finishes above Klopp, Pep will finish above Ole.
If he finishes above Tuchel, Klopp will finish above Ole.
If he finishes above Pep, Tuchel will finish above Ole.

He’s not beating those 3 managers to a title.

raumdeuter:
Glazer have backed up the coach, extended him, bought Sancho and Varane. So what is the excuse bot to win the league or CL now?

So you think Ole can finish above any of Tuchel, Klopp or Pep in a 38-game marathon?

If you like sign Messi and Ronaldo, Ole isn’t winning the title unless those 3 managers retire tonight.

raumdeuter:
Perisic club career so far has been mediocre, the treble at Bayern, he was a bench player for most of it which was why Bayern declined to sign him for anything more than 10M for a bench player

Will you take Willian at the moment when you have Greenwood, dont forget Willian won the Copa America and Europa cup

I would take Willian in 2018 over Martial. I was happy with Perisic’s potential signing at the start of 2017/18 too.

United had signed Lukaku and the manager then felt there wasn’t an out and out winger that hugs the touchline and can deliver crosses to the big centre forward. He singled out Perisic for that specific task but the idiötic pundits on TV said Perisic was too old and he would affect Martial’s development.

What has Martial produced since then? Nothing. There are rumours United are about to flog him to Dortumund to effect the arrival of Haaland. If Martial is so reliable, why buy Cavani, Ighalo or what not?

Martial flatters to deceive. He flopped for 3 years straight and his cult followers attributed his failure to the fact that his #9 shirt was given to Zlatan. Man is 26 and we are still waiting for a manager to develop him.

BikeMan:
Now that Varane is coming, does the excuse of the board not backing the clueless one still stand?

It doesn’t stand.

Olesexuals have already lined up Pogba’s potential departure as an excuse. If Ole fails to win this season, they are going to say Pogba left thus disrupting Ole’s plan.

If Pogba doesn’t leave, they would say he’s unsettled and that has caused a bit of confusion in the dressing room. It’s like you don’t know the people you are dealing with.

The same rētards that all agreed here last season Ole deserves a sack if he didn’t win the Europa league have been kee-keeing with joy since he signed a new contract.

Ole could go 20 years without a trophy and his cult followers would see progress. If it’s not cultural reboot, it’s the average squad age or some other irrelevant stats.

Oasis007:


They played 2nd Half, when the Team already battered.

I will be here when Shoretire gets sold to Accra Hearts of Oak.

Oasis007:


Same QPR hammered us 4 Goals to 2. Thanks to both Elanga and Shola for the consolation Goal.

Which proves the players you are hyping are not good.

Kelvinsteve1000:
Yeah sadly, Not that I want Rice at man u, but had west ham offered a swap with lingard, I will gladly accept it. My choice for that CDM is definetly Ndidi but Camvaniga as rumored won't be bad. Who do you think we should sign for that CDM?

Rice vs Ndidi.

Rice isn’t particularly good at anything. If he wasn’t born an English player, he would be trafficking illegal immigrants in a truck from Calais.

He’s English though so expect his transfer fee to be double that of Ndidi. Rice’s zero talents get praised more and some idiotic United fans prefer him to Ndidi cos SkySports said so.

Oasis007:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2p3Nc4cbBg

Ain't sure you're following Academy Players. Elanga, Hannibal, Shoretire are top talents. Shoretire is 17yrs, yet he had 2 Assists so far...... in 2 Preseason Matches.

The Trio I mentioned have future at United as Rashford, Greenwood and Co.

2 assists against which teams in preseason? QPR and which other club?

raumdeuter:
I dont know how much they are paying for Varane. Moreover defenders age slower than attackers so a 28yr old defender is still elite and can deliver since they dont put mileage as much like attackers

The media said Perisic will disturb Martial because Perisic is not significantly better than Martial despite being older.

Perisic club career was to be bundled out of Wolfsburg, Dortmund, bench player on loan at Bayern who Bayern refused to sign permanently, and Inter. There was nothing in Perisic career that was outstanding at that point

You think if it was Neymar at 28 or an elite player at 28 fans will object?

E.g you have Greenwood now then the coach decides to bring in 28yr old Willian, will you be wrong for objecting to it vs if it was 28yr old Salah

Perisic - A very intelligent winger that contributed immensely to Croatia getting into a World Cup final and a treble winner is not significantly better than Martial?

What has Martial achieved in his career apart from YouTube clips made by his cult followers?

timay:
You do know that Gomes wasn't discarded right?

Infact, he was offered new contract multiple times which he declined to go on a free to Liile. Only for those ones to end up loaning him again. The same loan that he doesn't want to go with Man united.

This is like saying Lukaku wasn’t discarded. They don’t have to give you a sack letter before you know you are not wanted. Ole told Lukaku to play on the wing to accommodate Rashford. That was the sign he needed to see to know Ole doesn’t respect him.

Players with ambition don’t feed on crumbs. Gomes wanted first team appearances and he wasn’t getting it - same as a Pogba in 2012. They forced their move with the aim of proving themselves elsewhere.

raumdeuter:
what is the total amount spent on Ighalo, Cavani and Heaton transfer fees and what is the amount Perisic was quoted for

How much are they paying for Varane at the same age?

Money wasn’t even the issue with Perisic. The media said Perisic would disturb Martial’s development.

Ole’s cultural reboot and the trust in youth policy has signed 4 pensioners in less than 3 years. The contracts of Mata(33) and Grant(38), etc have also been recently renewed.

Who is fooling who?

timay:
Your bolded argument was what the 12 foolish EPL small teams made for voting against the 5 sub rule. At the end of the day, they got affected more than the big teams. I'm sure they know better now.

How did they get affected more than big teams? How many points did the small teams get from big teams? Would City have lost 5 points to a newly promoted Leeds if the 5 subs rule was allowed?

timay:
A big team with squad depth can still rotate their teams by started different line ups for different games, so it makes no difference if they have 5 subs because the rotation has been done before the games begin. So that Argument doesn't make sense to me.

This is a silly argument.

A big team with squad depth can only use a maximum of 14 players in any game under the current rule. All the small teams in PL can match that strength with a full XI and any 3 decent players on their bench.

It’s a better coping mechanism than having to compete with 16 players in every game. Most small clubs don’t have 16 decent players in their squad to cope with the big teams.

14 problems are easier to deal with than 16 problems, it’s a no brainer.

Oasis007:
McTominay
Rashford
Greenwood



Pogba

And many others with superior talents made it at United.

Isn’t that the point? These guys were the best in their class.

Elanga and those other bums won’t make it. They are not even as talented as Angel Gomes and Gomes has since been discarded to Lille.

patrickmuf:
Is it too early to say the changes at the footballing department of the club is yielding the desired result or is it just a coincidence?

One thing is certain, the Glazers have played their part... Hopefully we sign a DM and if Pogba leaves, we sign another CM...

That is the biggest priority in my own opinion and I think it’s a blind spot for the so called 58 scouts working for the club.

How can they not see McFred will never deliver a title?