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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:57pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
When the veracity of a claim cannot be ridiculed, a weak debater tries to ridicule the source.
I like how my victims turn philosophical after getting battered. grin

Go and sin no more.

It’s a wrap! cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:51pm On Aug 10, 2021
elampiro:
By your own logic, Lampard, Fabregas, arr greater than Iniester and Ronaldinho since only goals and figures matter in football.

Mr Coogar, you are expired.
Lampard and Fabregas are midfielders. Scoring goals isn’t their primary objective. If they have goals in them, it’s a bonus.

Rooney and Aguero are strikers. Aguero has shown he’s more prolific than Rooney and you are typing nonsense.

Then you dived deeper into the nonsense by using Ballon d’Or as the determinant. Torres finished above Rooney ever did in Ballon d’Or ranking so is Torres better than Rooney? grin cheesy

I am destroying all y’all charlatans tonight.

No mercy. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:40pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent. grin
But but but “All players are not the same” cheesy grin

Only Sancho was offered the contract for the MD position. Foden and Diaz are different players so they were treated differently. cheesy cheesy

For Sancho, he must sign the contract to become an MD or lose the position. However, for Foden, he can become the MD for18 solid months before signing the MD contract. grin cheesy

This is another reason why women should take enough Folic acid during pregnancy - any inadequacy and the child starts to display this level of incoherent, inconsistent twaddle. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:36pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
So you can't answer my question? Good. See the highlighted portion, I did not make the claim, an article did so. Remember?
You made the claim before finding a junk article that partially supports the same claim. grin cheesy

Of all the websites to bring up as evidence, you cited MEN?

You are a charlatan. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:29pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
What agreement was thought to be imminent? Stop with the useless whataboutisms. All players are not the same and all camps are not the same so asking me about Foden and Diaz just shows you have lost big time on this and are trying to change the narrative to something else.
You are a möron!

All players are not the same? Really?

After lying to us for hours that had Sancho signed his contract, it would have been the gateway to the preseason tour(promotion) and his refusal to sign was the reason Pep didn’t take him to preseason, you have the audacity to say all players aren’t the same?

You are a brainless charlatan. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:21pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
L grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin L. Provide where in the screenshot this was implied. I am waiting.
Your stupidity knows no bounds. You have reduced this whole argument to your poor use of English.

Look at the sentence again and stop disgracing your school. An agreement was thought to be imminent - This simply means City thought there was an agreement but Sancho backed away from whatever psychotic idea City thought they had.

In short, there was never an agreement(at least, none on Sancho’s side of the table). City only felt so. If there was an agreement, it would be on paper(Sancho’s signature with wet ink).

Meanwhile, why were the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion not existent with Foden and Diaz?

Can you answer this question and nail your own coffin so I can debate more important people on this thread?

You died when you linked Sancho’s contract to his promotion. Foden/Diaz proved contracts and promotion are two different entities.

I bet you wish you could take that back.

Bloody charlatan. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:13pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
Your own screenshots. Do you see the phrase "any longer"? It shows you that he had considered the contract but did not want to - any longer. Remember your own screenshot shows you that an agreement [concerning the 30,000 GBP contract] that was thought to be imminent fell through because Sancho backed away. Yet an intellectual superior skipped all that to say . . . nonsense. grin
No no no, don’t be stupid.

He didn’t wish to be a City player “any longer”.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:09pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
L grin grin grin grin grin grin L. I am literally using your own article. This is funny. Your article says he backed away from the contract he was offered and you say he backed away from being a MCFC player. I expect you to insult your own article now.
“An agreement was thought to be imminent……”

City thought they had an agreement. I am not insulting the article. I am insulting your cognitive and deductive reasoning. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:58pm On Aug 10, 2021
elampiro:
Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.
With this logic of yours….

Torres finished ahead of Rooney in FIFA Ballon D’Or rankings. Torres finished 3rd, made world XIs. Rooney cannot talk when Torres is mentioned.

I want to see how you untie yourself from this web of fallacies you have tied yourself into.

You have 72 hours to respond. cheesy grin

By the time I am through with all you NL oldies, you would ALL acknowledge my awesomeness. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:45pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
L grin grin grin grin grin grin grin L. The reason your analogy works is because you had initially COMMITTED to eating rice and stew. Which means you wanted it before. Sancho had not made up his mind to leave, therefore QED. Your own argument defeats you. I don't have time for your weak attempts at deflecting from the crux of the issue.
Your use of English is terrible.

Sancho “backed away” cos he wished to no longer be an employee of Man City. QED.

120 hours later, you still haven’t told us why the steps taken for Sancho’s promotion didn’t apply to Diaz and Foden.

That was where you died - everything else you have typed is just saving face.

I’m your intellectual god. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:39pm On Aug 10, 2021
BlueAngel444:
it go shock you, but hope say you wear slippers
What will shock me?

If Poch succeeds, he’s expected to. Nobody would raise any eyebrow that he’s a genius with the number of talents in his squad.

If he fails, there would be no mercy. One bad result and the hammer would drop on his head. There are way too many brilliant managers in Europe to persist with Poch.

PSG have big ambitions, they aren’t like Man Utd who have decided to remain stuck with a failure for the next 3 years. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:27pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
In March 2017 "his mind was made up" but in July 30 2017 "he backed away". L grin grin grin grin L.
You only "pull back" and "stop negotiations" if you were moving forward or negotiating.
Question, why did he "back away"? Because a problem could not be resolved. What problem? Another article spelled it out.
You have now gone on to attack that article - and you call others lunatics. L grin grin grin grin L.
The “backed away” phrase was used because he was expected to sign.

What kind of deductive reasoning is this you are displaying? Sancho was a City player through and through. If he rejected any contract, it means he was not going to be a City player going forward thus the phrase back away.

You went to a restaurant, asked for the menu, picked rice and stew, food was served and you changed your mind that you don’t want the food again, you have backed away. You don’t have to start eating the food before one could say you backed away.

You should have stayed in school. cheesy

Android17:
All your stupid questions will not obfuscate clear facts. You said prove he was promoted I gave 3 reasons.
1. Announcement by CEO and Pep 2.) His contract 3.) The pre-season tour. You ignored all and said as long as he did not play during the season he was not promoted. I asked you how he would have played when he left before the season begun?
And I have asked you why these steps weren’t taken with Foden and Diaz before going for the preseason tour? Foden signed his contract 18 months after going for a preseason tour. If the steps you listed are really the precursor to a promotion, City would have waited for Foden to sign his contract before going for any preseason tour.

Since that isn’t the case, it means all what you listed are bunk. They have nothing to do with the contract. You only managed to conjure that crap in your head by linking his contract to his promotion and using the role of an MD as a crutch. grin

You are a simpleton!

Android17:
You hopped back to contract - then I showed you how he, in numerous articles, said the issue was about regular playing time. One article said he wanted it included into his contract - proving to you that he did not want a gentleman's agreement - he did not want the long game that Harry Kane is currently facing.
Which numerous articles? MEN is the only article you have provided as evidence and every football fan and his dog knows MEN is the media for ex-convicts that cannot afford quality articles penned by The Athletic. grin


Android17:
PS: There are no 30 articles concerning Jadon leaving City on the athletic. L grin grin grin grin grin L. It is easy to prove as well but I digress.
You have been found out. No matter how you shake it, you are intellectually inferior. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:48pm On Aug 10, 2021
Android17:
I used your own screenshot, analyzed each sentence and showed you how the athletic article paralleled with all the other stories - it is only the one made up in your self-absorbed, deluded and conspiratorial mind that differs.
You are a pathological liar, bros.

There’s no parallel here. The Athletic simply said Sancho and Foden are ambitious brats but Foden was more grounded because of his Manchester background and because his family are all city fans while Sancho was impatient.

By the time the contract was tabled, Sancho had made up his mind that he wasn’t going to wait to get a cameo in a dead rubber game against Bournemouth.

Android17:
I asked you why Sancho would want the number of appearances he would have in the first team, written into that contract if that contract was not sold to him as a promotional one. Until you answer the question, you have nothing to stand on.
I couldn’t answer that because there’s no evidence that actually happened . I scoured over 30 articles on The Athletic about Sancho’s contracts and none of the articles wrote anything like that because it’s unreasonable.

You scooped that from MEN - a junk sports media designed for society degenerates like yourself so they don’t feel left out about the happenings in world football. There’s no way a 17 year old would insist the number of appearances should be claused in his contract in a club as massive as Man City.

The MEN article was probably written by a lunatic like you to make Sancho look bad. A ploy club’s PRs had always used to appease the fans that might be agitated that Sancho was lost. “It’s not our fault, guys. We tried everything but that boy was unreasonable.”

I remember Ronaldinho also wanting a Helipad before coming to Man Utd. You have to be the biggest idiöt on the planet to believe such crap. Sancho never asked for that, he wasn’t going to sign for City because Pep took too long to play him in the senior team.


Android17:
Win an argument with you? grin grin grin grin You, who have conceded that Sancho was promoted? grin grin grin grin
The mind of a lunatic. grin

The first thing a very good psychologist would have noticed about you is that you suffer from acute psychosis. You are reading/seeing things that didn’t happen.

I have asked you to tell me why Foden got promoted to the senior team before his contract was up - you cannot answer. I hope you haven’t forgotten how you drew a parallel by comparing Sancho’s contract to the role of a managing director. grin

You lied to the whole world Sancho’s contract guaranteed his promotion and if that’s the case, why didn’t Man City wait until Foden’s contract was signed before taking him to a preseason tour?

You are a blithering idiöt!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:38pm On Aug 10, 2021
Oasis007:
Poch should play Messi as 10, behind Trio of Naymar, Icardi and Mbappe or Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria.

Wij and Verrati as DMs pivot. Hakimi, Marquinhos, Ramos and Diallo as CBs and FBs.
Poch is the weakest link in that set up. He’s one poor result away from getting sacked and there are plenty of elite managers that would take his place.

The expectation right now is through the roof. If Poch doesn’t win a treble with this team, questions would be asked, all manner of inquests would appear from various mainstream media.

This team should work for Poch but Poch is Ole’s cousin so I am predicting his sack letter by Christmas.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
Android17:
I have patience for slow people.
Jadon -2015 scholarship to expire 2018, so offer him the best contract possible and announce promotion 2017 before Bosman rule can kick in. Phil Foden - 2016 scholarship to expire 2019 so offer him a contract 2018 before Bosman rule (announce promotion to first team July 2017).
Do you notice how Foden does not ask for playing time in his contract in 2018 like Jadon did? That is how 2 different human beings behave - one player was willing to play the long game, the other was not.
You are a blithering idiöt..

You said Sancho’s contract was the offer that he was guaranteed to be promoted that summer and he would have been promoted had he accepted the offer in March 2017. So how come Foden was “promoted”(taken to preseason) before he was given an offer?

I am asking you this question to destroy your earlier point that Sancho’s contract is tied to his promotion, that’s a lie you managed to put together cos you are a very stupid person during an argument. You even went as far as comparing it to the role of Managing Director - characteristic of a room temperature IQ in display.

If indeed contracts are tied to promotion, City would have waited until Foden’s contract was up in 2018 before giving him promotion(taken to a preseason tour) - just like you stupidly lied about Sancho. That wasn’t the case.

As for Foden not asking for anything or playing the long game, that’s understandable. He was born in a family of City fans and he’s a local boy. He knew sooner than later that his chance would come.

Sancho signed for Watford at age 8, left his family house at age 11 in Kennington to board at Harefield academy in Uxbridge. He has always been in a hurry to get things done. He was only 13 years of age when he was playing against boys of 16 years of age at Watford academy.

He was never the type to stay stagnant. He was too ambitious for that and by the time he turned 15, he told Watford he was going to join Man City. So what part of his previous behavioral traits gave City the audacity to keep him waiting in the fringes before sending him to the deep waters?

City should have known he was not going to wait for long - and they should have pushed him to at least appear in a dead rubber game in 16/17, they didn’t and they lost him.

Android17:
Now that your deflections have flopped bad again, please answer: Sancho "already made up his mind" to leave in March 2017 yet he waited till after MCFC refused to include playing time in that contract late July 2017 to reject it - why? See reference below.
You must be very stupïd to be holding a MEN article as the gospel as per what happened with Sancho. There’s a reason such articles are easily accessible to moröns like you: they are not properly researched.

According to the Athletic, Sancho was already impatient before the contract offer was presented to him. This is why you will never win an argument with me - because you research from junk articles and you use it as a crutch to debate your intellectual superiors.

Get the fück outta my face, you despicable cünt! grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:04pm On Aug 10, 2021
elampiro:
Opta muddled up the roles of Striker, SS, AM, RF, LF in the earlier years. Even as at 2010, 2011, they muddled up FW, SS, AM roles as all forwards in most of the times. Opta evolved over time. What opta did before 2012 is that when it registered a player as a striker in the beginning of the season, it keeps counting FW for that player irrespective of the teams formation in matches and how the player was used. Same way, if it counts a player as an AM, it goes on auto mode.

Opta has evolved. If it were those days, it would still have been registering KDB as a winger in every match
OPTA muddled stats? grin cheesy

You are a joke!

elampiro:
Only one match as support striker or one season. Mtchew

Compared to Rooney who never had even one season as a striker. He was in the wing right from his debut season. Nilsterooy, Smith, Saha, Tevez, Berbatov, Chacharito, Van Person were our strikers. Sometimes Welbeck still still strike.

Unlike Aguero who was mostly the striker throughout his years.

Rooney finished ahead of Aguero in FIFA Ballon D'or rankings. Rooney finished 5th, made world XIs. Aguero cannot talk when Rooney is mentioned.
Who told you it was only one match?

I only gave you an example by highlighting that one match against United at OT.

Aguero played 94 games in his career as a second striker and 72 of those games were for Man City.

P.S. Aguero did not play all his games at City as a striker contrary to what you wrote.

Go and sin no more.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:05am On Aug 08, 2021
Android17:
If only you will research properly rather than reply capriciously all the time. Sancho was signed to the academy scholarship in 2015, Phil was signed 2016. See the underlined and keep deceiving yourself. The only reason he wanted assurances "written" into the contract is because they had verbally told him what the contract signified. If your conspiracy nonsense was anything to go by, don't you think Sancho would have rejected that contract since March - you said he was offered? L grin grin grin grin grin L
Look at this idïot.

You have been lying to us that Sancho’s contract was tied to his promotion. Even after you were told Foden signed his contract in Dec 2018 AFTER he was promoted in the summer of 2017, the penny still didn’t drop for you?

Every young player has an academy scholarship. It’s totally different to what we are discussing. Don’t muddy the waters with your stupïdity. Sancho was offered £30,000 per week contract in March 2017 - you told us that contract was tied to him being promoted - which he turned down.

If the contract was the promotion, how come Foden was promoted before signing his own contract in December 2018? Can you not see the foolishness in your logic? grin

So let me get this straight - You claim Sancho’s contract in March 2017 was the promotion offer. So Sancho was given an offer before promotion but Foden was given a contract after promotion in 2018?

You are a disgrace to your lineage. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:31pm On Aug 07, 2021
Android17:
When a company offers a member of staff "here is the contract for the MD position, sign it and become the MD". Whether the person accepts it or not is immaterial. It proves that the company did promote said member of staff. You tried to argue that Sancho was never promoted and now you have just conceded that he in fact was. It took you how many posts to come to the understanding I got in a little less than a millisecond? Mr. Intelligent. grin
Football contract isn’t for an MD position. It’s to tie him down for a certain number of years and retain him as an employee.

Sancho was offered a contract - the contract didn’t signify he was being promoted. They were just keeping him in ice for the foreseeable future.

If you have any IQ, you would notice that Diaz & Foden weren’t given any contracts that year but they ended up going for City’s preseason.

In actuality, Foden didn’t sign his contract until December 2018(£30,000 per week). Sancho was offered his contract around March 2017. grin

A contract is a contract, it’s got nothing to do with being promoted. I brilliantly led you to this cul-de-sac so you can “unalive” yourself in the presence of everyone. grin

Joe Hugill, Charlie McNeill, Woolstoon all have contracts at Man Utd, they are nowhere near being promoted. Instead of you to sit and learn when your superiors are dropping gems, you are puffing chest like an orangutan. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:17pm On Aug 07, 2021
Oasis007:
cheesy

Haaland don net Hatrick, while Martial dey net Heartattack.
When i mentioned his prowess when he netted 40 goals last season, RooneyBots rose in arms to attack me that Haaland is overrated. grin cheesy

I still think Martial is better though - you just need to renew your vows every preseason that the #9 shirt is his until 2050. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:11pm On Aug 07, 2021
Android17:
Once any man resorts to that, just know he knows his argument lacks substance.
Says the plonker that is equating giving contracts to a player to his promotion. grin cheesy

If you are dafter than this, you would be a pawpaw fruit. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:50pm On Aug 07, 2021
BikeMan:
Just informing you to anticipate Lukaku content from me this season. About to spam here till you cry. tongue tongue
Go ahead, please. cheesy grin

It’s inevitable that Lukaku would bully Maguire at some point this season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:45pm On Aug 07, 2021
elampiro:
Who is collating the statistics? Opta? You want to us to believe anything from anywhere? Rooney played as a striker in only one season.

Stats are screwed if his AM role is counted as a striker
We shouldn’t believe OPTA, but we should believe you from the dungeons of Adamawa state near Cameroon. cheesy grin

These RooneyBots make me laugh. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:37pm On Aug 07, 2021
Oasis007:
Haaland don net brace. He's a fuckin Goals Machine. United should go all out for him next Season.
I disagree, Martial is better. cheesy

Ole just needs to coach him and we must keep promising him that we won’t attempt giving his #9 shirt to any striker again. He might be 26 in age, but he’s 12 in his body. There’s plenty of time to prove himself.

Martial - ice cold, bald assassin, fully gloved in any weather, no smile, came from Monaco, media said no chance, defenders have families, dripping in sauce, sauce on spill, winner, Europe ain’t ready, greatest talent of all time, treble incoming, it’s really Martial’s season, Martial FC eating Gucci. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:22pm On Aug 07, 2021
BlueAngel444:
Lol you finally mentioned it yourself

It was hard resisting the temptation to, remember Aguero played behind Dzeko and other number 9s signed in City.
Some of us have memories, unlike the RooneyBots. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
nani667:
#OleOUT
#EndOLE
#OleMustGo
#EndOLECluelessness
#SackTheFraud
#KillTheBasterd
I won’t allow your comment to get buried under the dross posts.

Brendan Rodgers - hired after the Norwegian fraud has been stacking trophies on a fraction of the amount Ole has spent but Olesexuals keep lying to us that the fraud has done a phenomenal job at Old Trafford.

The excuse is that Ole is building United through cultural reboot to achieve sustainable success. You have to wonder whether Brendan is building Leicester for a short term success at this point. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:38pm On Aug 07, 2021
elampiro:
Everything you wrote is rubbish because Arguero was a striker 100% times he appeared. Rooney was a striker only like 20%


You no know ball.
You are a big olodo.

Aguero wasn’t a striker every time he played. He played as a supporting striker in many games particularly in his debut season.

He was a supporting striker for Balotelli when they pumped United 6-1 at Old Trafford. grin cheesy

Like I told you, the era where you can lie your way around a discussion is well and truly over.

The image below is Aguero vs United(Oct 23, 2011)

I dare you to tell us another lie. grin cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:05am On Aug 07, 2021
Mrcapability7:
You're a slowpoke and waste of space.

Wouldn't want argue with you. You know nothing. I don't look at stas to determine player worthiness.

Have you a nice day and time.
If you need to shed bitter tears because everything you were made to believe about Rooney has been exposed to be a lie, I could send you boxes of Kleenex.

No one asked you to argue with me in the first place, you jumped into what didn’t concern you and now you are backing out because you couldn’t stand the heat in this kitchen.

Shame on you!


elampiro:
Rooney mostly played from the wing and Ronaldo from the centre. The front three often switched. Garry Neville said Ronaldo can be asked to start from the right but he ends up in the middle or left because he picked the weakest area of the opposition to attack.

Tevez was our striker. Rooney was playing from the wing in a fluid three. Ronaldo even played in the middle more than Rooney.

Rooney was being used as the sacrifice for Ronaldo.

Even in the following season when Rooney provided the Assist for Ronaldo to score against Inter Milan, at half time SAF had withdrawn Rooney from attack to protect the left back where Inter attacked us in the 1st half. Rooney was acting more like a wingback throughout the 2nd half while Giggs moved closer to the opposition box. It was the first time Rooney overlapped that he picked Ronaldo with a pinpointing cross that resulted in the second goal.

Stats will not tell you all these Same way stats will not tell you that Scholes and Ronadinho did great things.


You no know ball. Bye
I can tell I have gotten under your skin. You even went as far to reply me in colored fonts. Wow. I am really doing the Lord’s work on this thread to rehabilitate RooneyBots.

Let me break your heart first and foremost that everything you have written up there is pure baloney. This is 2021, there is a vault of factual information on the internet of where any player in the last 30 years has played. That theory of yours that wasn’t backed by any fact 8-10 years ago has no credibility. You could get away with such lies back then, not anymore. grin

Bringing out one useless article to generalize that Rooney was often sacrificed to accommodate other players is a lie cooked from hell. I have information of how many games Rooney played as a centre forward. In actuality, he played most of his games as a centre forward contrary to what you RooneyBots have been made to believe over the years.

No matter how you shake it, Rooney is about 2 tiers below Aguero. Stats(facts) don’t care about your feelings. The statistics show Rooney played 238 games as the main striker, 165 games as supporting(2nd) striker, 75 games as attacking midfielder, 21 games as left winger, 17 as right winger and 13 games as a central midfielder. grin

After extracting these facts from the web, I filtered the games played as a main striker and compared to Sergio Aguero. The result was even grimmer than the total stats showed. Rooney was found wanting again and again. grin cheesy I know this would come as a shock to you but that’s what my expertise is. The whole point is to rehabilitate all you media sheep that believe Rooney scored fewer goals because of his versatility.

The stats comparing Rooney and Aguero from the same position(main striker) are below.

Aguero(striker) - 207 goals, 52 assists in 296 games.
Rooney(striker) - 104 goals, 55 assists in 238 games.

Drink it and weep. grin cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
Android17:
You always make me laugh. Here is your churlish style of arguing. 1. Insult 2. Strawman 3. Insult again 4. Deflect. With you, the major point will never be responded to. As soon as you are trapped, 5. you will bring up another irrelevant point that nobody was talking about and then, use it to throw more abusive words. 6. Pat yourself in the back.
Trapped? You are a dullard!!! You were the one that brought your long nose into the argument by disproving my point. You said Sancho was promoted.

Android17:
Again, I ask, if a prodigious talent means the player must be given a start, why did Ronaldo De Lima not start or play at all under Carlos Alberto in 1994. I selected said player because that is a player you love. You could not answer the question, you called it a false equivalency yet in the very same breath brought up what Moyes did with Rooney - when MCFC is being discussed. grin
Idiöcy runs in your genes for bringing up this false equivalence again. Brazil played only 7 games at the World Cup in 1994, there’s a mitigating factor not to have played Ronaldo in comparison to Guardiola’s team that played close to 60 games in 16/17 season.

Just to make sure I expose you as an idiöt that you have chosen to be in this lifetime, Man City played useless teams like Middlesboro, Huddersfield in FA cup that season and they played against Steaua Bucharest in the UCL qualifier. You mean Pep couldn’t have started Sancho from the bench and give him 20 secs in any of these games?

Nigga, who raised you? grin

Android17:
I wonder how the intelligent United fans always let you get off with this weak strawman style argument. Nobody is arguing why Sancho left. We have his own testimony - he wanted regular playing time and he knew it was unlikely considering the pecking order. But here you are, presenting a poser as though this question was not already answered pages back and then asking it like it was a bone of contention. Yet, you are still deflecting from the main issue - why was he offered a new contract? why was he invited like Brahim and Foden? If Pep was not going to use him in the first team that season, why did the other 2 players that were invited like Sancho, feature that very season? grin
Just another long winded fiddlesticks that led nowhere.

Why didn’t Pep promote Sancho before Sancho decided Pep was up to no good? And we aren’t talking about contracts or failed promises. Why didn’t Pep give Sancho 30 secs in any of the dead rubber games played in 2016/17?

You are braindead. grin


Android17:
"there was no reason for him to leave, if he hadn't felt betrayed". When we asked you to present where this was said or alluded to, you replied with insults.
Present where this was alluded to or implied. LOL.
That was exactly what the article was all about. You said you had read it before. You were challenged to show proof and your tail has been between your legs ever since.

Pathological liars get found out each time they square up to me.

Android17:
Present where Sancho said this or where it was implied. Is it hard? All we know is, Pep came in 2016/17, promoted 3 youth players at the end of that season (after watching them for a season), offered first team contracts and invited them to join the first team tour. 2 of those players who stayed on played that season - with the first team. The evidence shows Sancho would have played. The evidence also shows Sancho would not have had as much playing time with the first team as he did with Dortmund - which is the only citable reason as to why he left.
This is the same bastard that said Sancho wasn’t promoted and he’s repeating the lie again that 3 players were promoted.

Your father’s mistress has placed a terrible curse on you. Seek help.

Android17:
Yet Tosin Adarabioyo played in Pep's very first season for the first team. grin grin
You are logically useless. Adarabioyo got his debut under Pellegrini. This fool actually made my point by himself without realizing.

Adarabioyo was an unused substitute against Monchengladbach and Juventus in the fall of 2015. He made his full debut in the senior team in Feb 2016 against Chelsea. He started that game but now you want to make it look as if Pep gave him his full debut.

Look at how you have disgraced your lineage for the umpteenth time.

Android17:
Sancho was not promoted - but he was offered a promoted contract. Sancho was not promoted - but he was invited to the first team's pre-season tour in the USA when other youth team players were to be in the UK. Your entire argument as to what makes me wrong is that Sancho did not feature in the EPL - even when he left before the EPL started. cheesy cheesy
This bastard told us in the last paragraph that 3 players were promoted. 14 and half seconds later, he’s backtracked all by himself again that Sancho wasn’t promoted. See how easy it is to see through your lies.

Make up your mind - was Sancho promoted or not? 3 players were promoted but Sancho wasn’t promoted. You are the biggest irresponsible tosser I have come across since I was born.


Android17:
LOL. People who can read will see the fine print.
Those that can read are giggling at your humiliation. Lying about Sancho getting promoted and flip flopping back to he wasn’t promoted was the real giveaway.

They also feel you didn’t have to lie that you have access to the Athletic article. You backtracked like a loser that you are when you were asked to post an excerpt of the article you claimed to have read.

The long and short of this whole tale is that you are a disgrace. grin cheesy Don’t you ever in your fücking miserable life reply me again or even make subliminal comments at me until you improve your deductive and cognitive reasoning, you morönic weapon!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
CapitalCee:
It is now clear that your are out of your depth.
He is jack of all trade master of none? But he is the hishest goal scorer for both club and country.
He is not among the top 5 scorers in EPL? Yet he is only behind Alan Shearer in all time EPL top scorer. For the playmakers stats see Zidane and Iniesta.
That’s a damning indictment on United and England. Aguero spent 10 years at City and scored 260 goals for them. Rooney’s 13 years at United only produced 253 goals for United.

As for Alan Shearer and top 5 scorers in PL, you would expect someone that had close to 16 years in the PL(13 of those at United alone) to be nearer the top.

Van Nistelrooy scored 150 goals for United in 5 seasons. That’s 30 goals per season average. How many goals would he have scored if he had spent as many as 13 seasons like Rooney? You cannot use all time stats to judge how prolific a striker is.

CapitalCee:
In those seasons Rooney scored 34 goals apeice thats an excellent return for a top striker even though he didnt play there through out the campaign.
Interestingly your Aguero never scored up to that tally in his entire career, infact for his 10 years at city he only scored over 30 goals just twice.
Aguero didn’t score up to that because he didn’t play as many minutes. It’s a disgrace that Aguero who was always hampered with injuries scored more goals for Man City in 10 years than Rooney did in 13 years. grin cheesy

And if you don’t believe me, let’s compute their goal/min stats in those 2 seasons Rooney scored 34 and let’s see who was more dangerous inside the 18 yard box.

CapitalCee:
Ronaldo de lima did 47 once and never repeated it, infact apart from that he never scored more than 34 goals in a season his entire career. Apart from his final season at Arsenal RVP never scored more than 30 goals in his entire career. It is funny how your jack of all trade and master of none could amass such a high number in the only season he was tasked to lead the attack.
How many times does De Lima have to do it to be considered world class. Ever heard of personal best statistics? A striker at age 20 scored 47 goals in a season and you still asking for more? grin

The Jack of all trade who played billions of minutes in a top team should have those numbers. The true statistics is the goal/minute stats. If we put that here, you would be embarrassed to have even held a brief for Rooney. grin cheesy

CapitalCee:
Your other points are useless that deserve no response
Or you don’t have a smart rebuttal for them. grin

Rooney’s name didn’t even come up in the top 10 most prolific strikers(goal/mins) in the PL history but we should ignore it because there’s more to Rooney than stats? grin cheesy

If that’s true then Doucoure is better than Bruno, Doucoure’s stats shouldn’t matter because he does much more than Bruno. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:00pm On Aug 06, 2021
This forum must have the most hypocritical United fans one can ever meet.

If a Chelsea fan says Mount is better than Bruno, they would be up in arms, providing all kinds of statistics to show Bruno is better.

But if I use the same statistics to prove Aguero is better than Rooney then they tell you statistics don’t matter in football, that I should watch the game more.

If this isn’t mental retardatiön, I don’t know what it is. grin cheesy cheesy grin

You are all in trouble, I have told you my job here is to change your age-long narratives you heard from beer parlors or your retardēd football loving uncles.

Evil is here! cheesy grin

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