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elampiro:
Did they play in the same team and position? No.

One was being a 9 throughout with the league best AM (Silva) helping him. Another was playing all round supplying RVP passes from 60 yards, etc

How many goals did Aguero score for Argentina.

Anyway, FIFA XI and FIFA Ballon D'or top finish says it all. Good bye

How did Ronaldo outscore Rooney in 07/08?

Was Ronaldo a striker?

How did Salah outscore Kane, Lukaku, etc from the wing? Was Salah a striker?

Rooney - shit as a striker
Rooney - shit as a #10.

I peeped the statistically best seasons of selected PL players, as predicted Rooney’s supposed best seasons were at the bottom of the pile.

You people have no shame.

CapitalCee:
You are talking absolute nonsense, I mean absolute nonsense. The reason Rooney was played all over the pitch was because of his versatility, his movement of the ball and his excellent ability to find team mates with passes as well as his chance creation.

He was played all over the pitch because he’s mediocre at everything. Rooney is a Jack of all trades. While his versatility is an admirable quality, he’s not a master at any of the thing he does.

Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 strikers in the history of the PL, Rooney isn’t in the list of top 5 number 10s in the history of the PL. Rooney isn’t in the top 5 of any football position in the history of the PL.

That’s exactly my point!

oliverano:
Rooney scores, create chances, passes, marks, orchestrate play and sometimes control games, he is a one of a kind. He is never a top striker, he was always the second striker behind a more traditional 18-yard box finisher in a 4-4-2 formation. Heskey, Owen and lately Kane for England. Van Nistelrooy, Berbetov, Chicharito, Welbeck and Van persie for United.

If he was a provider for all these strikers, why does he have a horrendous assist stat? Who was he assisting while playing behind top strikers? We know Fabregas, Giggs, De Bruyne, Bergkamp, Lampard and even the late comer(Bruno) and their craft, how come Rooney isn’t in this conversation in the history of the PL.

oliverano:
4-4-2 formations previously adopted by managers makes the 2 strikers basically share scoring responsibilities with the most advanced finisher ussually getting the most, Aguero in the city lineup or Lewandowski are always advanced strikers due to the sytle of play of the team. Rooney was playing in a position akin to Bruno Fernandes in recent times, or even Rivaldo or Lampard(in chelsea) before. The seasons Rooney was asked to lead the attack in 2021/12 and 2009/2010 season, go and check his goal tally.

What was his goal tally in 2009/10 & 11/12?
Do you know how many goals Salah scored from the flank on his debut season? You people just like to gas mediocrity.

There is always an excuse for Rooney? Challenge his numbers as a striker and everyone quickly reminds you he’s not a pure forward. Challenge his numbers as a #10, and they tell you he’s a striker or a deep-lying playmaker stationed beside Carrick.

oliverano:
In terms of ability on the ball Aguero is no where near Rooney. Aguero will never in his life attempt the searching long pass Rooney delivered to Van Persie in 2013 to clinch the title against Aston Villa, and that has always been Rooney's landmark.

There’s a reason Aguero is heading to Barcelona at age 34 while Rooney wasn’t even considered good enough at Everton when he was 32. He had to run to MLS & now he’s retired while Ronaldo is still winning golden boot in Serie A.

oliverano:
Ronaldo de lima who you hail, go and check his goal tally even in his most prolific season. Please stop making emphatic conclusions on things you have not well researched. For you to say Aguero is better than Rooney in Everything is an absolutely nonsense statement. If Rooney was an Argentine, Higuain will never have benched him in the national team.

De Lima won Ballon d’Or at age 20 and he repeated the feat at 21. De Lima scored 47 goals for Barcelona at the tender age of 20 - these are numbers Rooney cannot even dream of.

If Rooney was an Argentine, he would be playing Rugby for the national team. Rooney is a master at nothing and I reiterate the only reason he got moved around a lot was because he wasn’t particularly excellent at anything.

Rooney(the provider) never topped Assist chart in over 16 seasons in England. I ask - what was he providing? Was he providing passes that led to goals or expletives to the match officials.

You can put a poll up anywhere in the world, Aguero would be chosen before Rooney.

oliverano:
Not here to argue just want to add to what you guys are trying to say.
I think the difference is the coach.

I agree with you, Oliver. The difference is the coach for choosing the inferior options for Man Utd.

oliverano:
I didn't start this argument so I don't know what was said in the past but I'll contribute based on player comparison. The aforementioned players, I think the difference is the coach at least to some extent.

The coach takes some responsibility in tactics but the larger responsibility still rests with the players.

oliverano:
Silva and Mata for me can be measured as somewhat equivalent until Pep arrived.

Silva was better. Plenty of United fans always admired how Silva was able to keep the ball, guard it well and make eye of the thread passes. Mata was also good for most parts but he was essentially producing his assists from set plays.

oliverano:
Martial was the most expensive teenager at the time of his transfer and was somewhat rated ahaed of Sterling.

Martial was £35m(rising to £58m) if he won the league, CL and Ballon d’Or awards. He has failed to match that expectation so his transfer fee is technically £35m.

Sterling was £50m.

oliverano:
Aquero on the other hand was a goal scorer, a pure striker so his numbers will fare better than that of Oga Rooney who was always behind the main striker and even played in midfield occasionally.

Someone needs to tell me why Rooney was played behind main striker. How come Lewandowski, Haaland, Suarez, Aguero are never asked to play in the midfield?

oliverano:
My pont is that while City went for a World Class coach, United settled for Mediocrity(Ole)
A classic case of a good coach is what happened at Chelsea last season and Bayern the season before. With Lampard, Chelsea won't be UCL winners.

Ole is clueless but if we are being fair, we cannot blame him for Rooney, Schneiderlin, Mata, Schweinsteiger or Martial. All these players had declined long before Ole arrived. Ole didn’t even meet Schmidfield & Rooney at United.

oliverano:
Replace Ole with Conte and United will be a very serious team to compete against.
But I get your point sha...safe!!!

Replace Ole with Tunde Disu and United will be a serious team to compete against. Oasis007 would take United to a PL title within 9 months, Expert17 would win CL under 2 seasons with Ole’s team.

elampiro:
You know ball

Sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut so that people won’t think of you as being a stüpid fellow.

So that poorly put together image designed by a brain dead blogger is proof that Rooney was better than Aguero?

Unfortunately for you RooneyBots, there are statistics on the internet to silence this myth once and for all that Rooney is a better player than Aguero.


Aguero played half the number of minutes Rooney played in the PL and the Argentine was only 20 goals away from eclipsing Rooney’s entire career goals in England. Aguero arrived in the PL 9 years after Rooney’s debut.

Aguero averaged a goal every 128 minutes in his entire career to Rooney’s 1 goal every 192 minutes.

SMH!

Android17:
I know you think you can type a load of gibberish and hope some modicum of sense will be lodged in the heap. I am here to announce to you that you are still loading up on the bullocks. Is Guardiola, Moyes? Do Manchester City and Everton have the same mandate? Do players in those teams have the same objective? What errant nonsense is this? And to think that you were just talking about false equivalencies.

12 hours later. This fool has refused to take on the challenge posed to him. What stupid mandate are you talking about? If you have a brilliant player in your academy, the surest way of keeping him is by playing him and aligning your plans to fit into his ambitions.

Pep failed to do this and the player wanted out. It’s as simple as that. You have travelled thousands of miles to defend Pep in this but your blockhead refused to ask the $64K question: why would Sancho want to leave a set up as brilliant as City. They have the best school in Europe. He had already had training sessions with David Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero, etc.

There was no reason for him to leave if he hadn’t felt betrayed to leave. However, you are too useless upstairs to even give this a logical thought. Your tonsils are permanently jammed in Pep’s bütt, it would take 5 Fire Departments to rescue you.

Android17:
Another worthless and meaningless deflection. Where is the evidence for your claim? Can you prove where anybody made Sancho promises in 2016/17?

Yet another idiötic rebuttal.

Without promises, there wouldn’t be expectations. Without expectations, there wouldn’t be a feeling of betrayal.

Sancho left because what was said didn’t match what was happening.

Android17:
Let me get this straight, so Sancho left because he felt he would not get regular playing time in the first team and not that the manager did not promote him, Brahim and Foden to the first team? So you are slyly conceding to what I have been saying all the while even though you are trying to sneak in the phrase "clear pathway". Whose pathway is clear? How would you know for e.g that AWB is going to be a regular in the first team this season?

Sancho left because the manager didn’t promote him. Pep had trouble in his debut season and he was scared to play youth players even in dead rubber games. And for every Man City loss in 2016/17, Pep never spoke about giving the academy boys a chance, he always opined he would look into the market to get replacements.

Sancho wasn’t ready for that long game or hoping things might turn around. He dumped Pep because Pep was too scared to play him. Sancho wasn’t promoted(your original lie) so I don’t know why you are still here saving face. You are a pathological liar. We have asked you to provide one link where Sancho was promoted, the only article you could find was “set to be promoted”.

Android17:
By the way, stop attaching that screen shot as your evidence. I actually feel ashamed for you. Do you know what the idiom "playing the long game" means?

You should feel ashamed for the person that birthed you. They sent you to school and the best outcome was for you to come to a forum and lie without dignity.

If you aren’t lying about witnessing Sancho’s promotion at Man City campus, you are lying about “some of you” reading an Athletic article you are incapable of accessing.

You are a disgrace to your lineage.

Mrcapability7:
This really confirm your knowledge about football is limited bro you don't watch football bro. All you do write english m not so sure you can even speak with useless sta and insulting everyone who tried to engage you in discourse. Watch live match

Aguero isn't Rooney mate as long as football is concerned. Rooney is 200 times high and shoulder above aguero as football is concern.

As striker you might say aguero is better with goal ratio but as footballer ROONEY 100 times player aguero was/us

This is useless comparison.

Rooney is overall footballer, he attacked, he defend, orchestrated attack, create chances. While aguero spend his time in 18 box waiting to be feed.


Rooney started as a striker but he spent his entire career been played out of position by Manchester United and England.

You wanna bring sta to argue your point ? Ok bring aguero assists compared to Rooney

Learn how to watch live football stop this stat of thing it is valid to judge players career achievement but it is irrelevant when it comes to player abilities bro.


If it is by sta players like Ronaldinho, zidane, iniesta and paul Scholes etc got nothing on other footballers

You have no common sense.

No one ever asked Lewandowski, Aguero, Ronaldo De Lima and other great strikers to play out of position. You know why? Because they are bloody good at one thing - goal scoring.

Rooney was asked to play everywhere because his managers knew there was always one player in his team better at goal scoring than he does. I am not your biased goat who would put everything Man Utd over other teams because of club rivalry.

Aguero is heads and shoulders above Rooney - in everything. It’s not even close. Aguero scored more goals for City in 10 years than Rooney did at United in 13 years.

Android17:
Look at who is talking about false equivalencies. Are all young talents the same? Are all clubs the same? Are all managers the same? Do all clubs have the same set of players? So why ask me a daft question about what David Moyes did in Everton FC with Rooney?

You are a morön……

Sancho had already done what Rooney couldn’t do at age 16. There was a tournament(Elite Neon Cup) in Greece in the summer of 2015 where Sancho destroyed all put before him. City youths won that tournament.

There was plenty of credits for Sancho to have at least played as a sub in one of the domestic cup games that season but Pep wouldn’t budge because Pep never believed in the lad.

Android17:
As soon as you are cornered you respond with insults or you try to deflect from the argument. Either ways, this attempt above is pisspoor. Be creative.

Shut up your filthy mouth and stop deflecting. You lied pathologically that you have read the article I posted. I gave you 120 minutes to show me what you read by posting the paragraph that was immediately after the excerpt I posted. You are too dirt poor to take on the challenge and your best rebuttal was that I respond with insults.

Do you not possess any iota of shame in you?

We are waiting for you to present where the article posited that Jadon was never given a chance or whatever nonsense you typed.

I have already proven that but your cognitive reasoning is sub par.

I will try again: Sancho didn’t want empty promises like the season before. He didn’t want to spend the next year waiting for the possibility of a 2 minute appearance from the bench in a dead rubber game.

Sancho finessed his exit because there wasn’t a clear pathway to the first team and he wasn’t going to sit around and pick his nose in the hope of being groomed as a long-term replacement for Leroy Sane who was only 21 years of age back then.

Oasis007:
Solskjaer on Man Utd transfers: “Anything from now is a bonus after Sancho and Varane. You never know in football. Anything can happen, ins and outs. Varane hasn’t done his medical yet but that should be okay. I’m very pleased with what we’ve done”.

This Norwegian fraud has no standard.

A midfield as weak as Man Utd’s needs to be fixed. How can any manager with the ambition to win the PL title accept that midfield and said anything added is a bonus?

By March, this lunatic would move the goalposts that the midfield needs fixing after he finds himself 25 points behind the league leaders.

Android17:
I don't know if this is a joke but you come off as unresearched, out of your depth and whimsical. So Carlos Alberto Parreira should have started Ronaldo de Lima in 1994 world cup because he was "already killing his classmates and professionals on the football pitch?"

We are talking about club football, you möron.

The several false equivalencies you throw into arguments is exactly why I was able to spot your idiöcy from the jump.

Android17:
You think you are sly but you are just making a fool of yourself if we are being honest. Your question presupposes that any player was always as good as they eventually became - which is daft.


If you can point to any part of the athletic article titled "A prodigy in a hurry: the rapid rise of Jadon Sancho, Manchester United’s £73m man" that even remotely suggested the highlighted please present it. I have told you, avoid certain people when trying these your futile games. Some of us have read every article you want to present.

The same athletic article you are too poor to subscribe to? “Some of us have read every article…….” - who are the us? This simpleton is actually trying to fit himself into the elite class.

I dare you to post the next paragraph of the image I posted earlier if its true you have read every article I may want to present. You have 120 mins to prove you are not a church rat. I dare you and every member of your entire village.

Tick tock……

Mrcapability7:
You need to watch football bro stop relying on useless sta to argue watch live football. Aguero is better than Wayne Rooney lol. If it is by sta then Lampard was better than Scholes.


Watch match leave sta alone anyway i don't even if you know how to kick a ball

Hahahahaha.

How many golden boots did Rooney win in the PL in his 16 seasons in England?

Yeah, the excuse would be, he never really played as a striker, he was a #10.

How many times did Rooney top the assist chart in his 16 seasons in England?

Another excuse would be, he wasn’t really a #10, he was a centre forward.

If you don’t get rid of the media brainwash you have been fed, you will never know better. Rooney is a good player in his own rights but he’s at least 2 tiers below Aguero.

Android17:
LOL. Your story is completely false, man. Pep just came in 2016/17 - he had to watch and observe the youth team to know which players were ready. He identified 3 of them and invited them to join the first team tour July 2017. Jadon gave a gentleman's agreement that he will sign it but after talking to his handlers, decided against it because he felt his competitors in City would stagnate his growth - he wanted regular first team appearances. Emphasis on regular. That is why he refused to sign the contract and Pep told him not to travel to the USA in that case. Jadon then signed with Dortmund - when the first team were in the USA.

So it took him 9 months to watch a player that was already killing his classmates on the football pitch averaging almost a goal per game?

How old was Rooney when Moyes gave him a PL debut?

Your stupidity will sink the titanic.

Android17:
LOL. You do know 16/17 was Pep's first season in City, right?

So? Pep couldn’t play Sancho anytime from August 2016 till May 2017?

Android17:
There is a reason you always use abusive words. It is simply aimed at obfuscating your vacuous arguments. The idiom "set for" just means to be prepared, to be ready and so on. The caption is saying that United is preparing to do it. How so? They started training with the first team - this was February 2021 (Just like Pep invited Jadon to do, apart from offering him a first team level contract in July 2017). Then, 3 months after, Ole gave both players their debut - that is what made them first team players officially (same way Pep gave Foden and Brahim - even Tosin Adarabioyo, their own debuts). Like I told you before, Jadon left by early August 2017 - before he got a chance to get his debut.

Idiocy flows in your varicose veins.

Your ego won’t allow you to chop your L with cold water but since you chose violence, I would drag your face on the floor of a public toilet.

The long and short of this discourse is that Sancho never got the promotion you have been lying about and this is why you cannot find any article expressively stating so.

Below is another evidence that Pep never gave Sancho a chance in spite of his prodigious talents.

City set to sign Messi.

The #10 shirt is waiting for Messi there unlike the situation at United where the #10 shirt is occupied by a player who won’t play for the team for the next 100 days.

Android17:
Throughout what season? The season was yet to begin. Do you know what a pre-season tour is? PRE - before - season?

16/17, you morön!

Android17:

You make the daftest arguments ever. That is somebody's isolated comment - which contradicts all the other news reports including Jadon's.

This guy is a morön, my God.

Pep could have played Sancho at any point in 16/17 season. Sancho didn’t get a sniff.

Suddenly, he was offered a contract after he made it known he was leaving Man City. Medicine after death.

The long and short of it was Sancho wasn’t promoted at Man City. QED!!!

Android17:
Don't join them to make a moot argument. The word "to" does not apply the same way in each part of a sentence. Promoted "to" ... is not the same as "to" be promoted. The former shows the action has happened.

Look at this morön trying to wriggle himself out of steamy shit he put on himself.

This is the example we are asking you to bring for the last hour.

A headline that shows ‘set to be promoted’
Another headline that confirms promotion.

You know, like this one……

Android17:
Your arguments are incoherent. How else will he be promoted except that he was enlisted to the first team, offered first team level salary and asked to train with the first team? The only way your argument would have been validated is if he stayed that season and never featured. Unfortunately, He left before the first EPL game. The other players mentioned with him, played- Foden and Brahim. In fact, even Lucas Nmecha played as well. Go and look for someone else to play childish games with.

He had concerns throughout the season that promotion wasn’t coming and he agitated his move out of Pep’s claws.

You are a morön just like I predicted the very first moment you brought your idiötic self to an argument that didn’t concern you.

Android17:
Your arguments are incoherent. How else will he be promoted except that he was enlisted to the first team, offered first team level salary and asked to train with the first team? The only way your argument would have been validated is if he stayed that season and never featured. Unfortunately, He left before the first EPL game. The other players mentioned with him, played- Foden and Brahim. In fact, even Lucas Nmecha played as well. Go and look for someone else to play childish games with.

Somebody should come and carry Android17’s corpse from this thread.

The last paragraph in the image below is the final nail on his coffin.

raumdeuter:
Greenwood is close to Foden in age and started about the same number of minutes

Close in age?

Greenwood - Oct 1st 2001
Foden - May 28 2000.

17 months isn’t close in age.

Android17:
I told you, you can walk around people who cannot read, not me. The screenshot you presented will only mislead people who cannot read. City also promoted Delap to the first team to feature against Leicester when they lost 5-2. That is exactly what your screen shot is saying about the 5 United youngsters. Which is different than saying those youngsters were promoted to the first team. The addition of "Wolves" there proves it was momentary. You make me laugh.

You are a buffoon.

Where in the screenshot or your write up shows Sancho was promoted? I need to see headlines that claim Sancho was promoted at City, “not set to” headlines.

Messi was set for a new contract for Barcelona according to news around the world. Has he signed it now?

Dullard!

CapitalCee:
Lol. Which means Ole can go and promote Rooney 11 yr old son.and not play him. Tomorrow ole will claim to promote him.

Ole has promoted QueenAlabi.

He just hasn’t played him yet.

Android17:
Do you know what a non-sequitur argument is? How else will anyone be drafted into the first team if not being named there first? The next step will be the season starting and the player playing. Only 1 part of the dynamic was fulfilled as Sancho left after being promoted. Is the difference clear?

You are a colossal möron.

Find any article on the web saying Sancho had been promoted at Man City. There should be articles on Man City’s website concerning the news - but a useless brainless twerp like you want to puff shoulders in this gladiator arena.

I will decapitate you if you don’t carry your malodorous self to the Chelsea thread where morons of your ilk habitate.

TheLequte:
LooL. You guys are funny.

Judge to sentence Raumdeuter to 6 years in prison
And
Judge sentences Android17 to 99 years in prison

Who dey inside jail? You or Dayo?

There’s a clear difference between “future-possible tense” and “e don already happen tense”.

Wake up.

Are you minding the idiöt?


This saphead is actually trying to put “set to” as a player already promoted. Look at the fool that has the audacity to challenge my thoughts on a subject he knows nothing about.

This is an example of players United ‘promoted’. You can see the tense used was past tense.

CapitalCee:
I hve sent you too. Just confirm too. No exaggerated prayers too please. Juat keep track, i will sort you out in future, but please dont decieve me ooo, not to close doors for other people.

Billionaire CapitalCee.

I hail o!!!!

TheLequte:
You didn’t add Mason Greenwood’s age. 19 y/o.

And he’s speaking as if City’s academy is filled with ghosts and robots. Ogbeni drop another name apart from Foden jare.

Pep who would rather leave his substitute bench empty than fill it with academy players.

Mchew

I didn’t need to.

I was waiting for him to say Greenwood started playing for the senior team under Moyes.

Android17:
You get promoted when your name is drafted to the FA as one of the members of the first team.

Android17 is to become a transgendered woman means you have already become one?

Why do you like showing off your morgue temperature IQ?

Thathumbleboy:
Modified:

Thank you very much sir. You really don't know how much I needed this, I'm grateful bro.

Cc CapitalCee even though someone stole my gift I'm still happy you sent something in the first place


Thank you both so much I appreciate

Don’t worry about the person that stole your hard earned money. You swallowed your pride to ask for help and a parasite waited and reaped where he didn’t sow.

He will use that money to cure Covid-19.

Thathumbleboy:
Alright once I see it I'll let you know sir

Just type “confirmed” when you see it.

I don’t want any exaggerated appreciation or a billion prayers. Quote any of my post with a single word of “confirmed”.

Thank you!

Android17:
I have told you before, resorting to invectives only shows who is trying to hide behind words let alone people. Jadon, Brahim and Phil were promoted same time. Jadon preferred to leave as he did not believe he will get enough playing time. Information anyone can readily find online. I have told you, you can talk around other people but when you see my moniker, research anything you want to type thoroughly before directing it my way.

How do you get promoted without kicking a ball for the senior team?

Are you a möron?

raumdeuter:
That is because he played the entire season as a 20yr old

21yr old Foden will play starting next weekend

Only to have fewer PL starts and 700 fewer PL minutes than Mason Greenwood.

Thathumbleboy:
My btc address sir

You can remove the address now…..

I have sent. You should have it in few minutes.

raumdeuter:
Turned 21 after the season ended. Foden played the entire last EPL season as a 20yr old

But you had to put 20 there to give your argument so much vitamins.

Thathumbleboy:
I can use my brothers own, how can I send it sir?

Put the wallet address here.

Quote this post and put it.

Remove it after I tell you to.