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raumdeuter:
So McTominay a 24yr old played about 100mins more than Foden at 20?

Foden is 20?

raumdeuter:
So McTominay a 24yr old played about 100mins more than Foden at 20?

You asked for an academy graduate since Pep arrived.

Do you want to move the goalpost again?

Thathumbleboy:
Na lack of data I blame for not replying earlier.

So they have stolen your money?

Do you have a Bitcoin wallet? Let me bless you with cheddarz.

raumdeuter:
You played Europa till finals. Man City did not which meant you had more games

McTominay last season……

Checkmate!!!!

raumdeuter:
Which competition did Man Utd play less than City? You even played through Europa that had more games So its expected for you to play more games

Same 38 league games, 6 CL, 9 Europa games , quarter final in FA, semi final in Carling

All competitions.

City reached the final of CL, United didn’t
City reached CC final, United didn’t
City reached FA cup semi, United didn’t.

Why are you prolonging a discussion you have actually lost 20 mins ago?

Android17:
You asked him - all competitions last season, and he brought EPL games for all seasons. I wonder why you are arguing with the guy. He is not going to have an honest conversation with you.

Shut up and stop hiding behind people to make a point. If you have any IQ higher than 10, jump into the ring, let me drag you with Raumdeuter.

Weren’t you the fool that said Pep promoted Jadon Sancho? So Sancho that didn’t play a single PL game for Man City at senior level was promoted?

You are the living example of why 2 siblings shouldn’t have sex and procreate.

raumdeuter:
Foden played a total of 3300mins in all comps last season. How many Man Utd academy players who joined after August 2016 had over 3300mins

No one cares about all competitions.

Not every team would reach the later stages of competition. A team that got killed in round 64 in FA cup won’t play as many games as the one that reached the final.

Foden wasn’t injured at any point last season or suspended and yet, Greenwood that is like 2 years younger than him has more PL minutes than him.

That’s the biggest indictment on Pep about the so called youth project.

Pep is a fraud!

raumdeuter:
How many Man Utd academy players who broke into the first team after Pep came played more minutes than Foden last season in all comps

I am crying

Even Greenwood that broke his virginity last week has more PL minutes under his belt than Pep’s best academy product.

raumdeuter:
No. These players were equivalent
Silva was no different from Mata pre 2016
Worn out Toure was no better than Worn out Schweinsteiger
Fernandinho was not much different from Schneiderlin
Aguero was not better than Rooney and Sterling was a joke laughed at while Martial was the golden boy

One thing I like about this argument is that there are stats to back my assertion.

raumdeuter:
How many Man Utd academy players who broke into the first team after Pep came played more minutes than Foden last season in all comps

Nearly all of them.

See Scott McTominay that no one even rates at United.

Scott has doubled Foden’s number of minutes and we diss McFred everyday here. That’s the difference.

Oasis007:
He's likely to sign for PSG though.

Neymar - Mbappe - Messi?

Just give them the CL already.

raumdeuter:
Mata = David Silva
Toure = Schwensteiger
Fernandinho = Schneiderlin
Aguero = Rooney
Sterling = Martial

Still have Herrera, Fellaini Depay big money signings

Silva was better than Mata
Toure was better than the worn out Schweini
Fernandinho was better than Schneiderlin
Aguero was miles better than Rooney
Sterling was better than Martial.

You are making my point.

Sniper4real:
Man city go regret buying Greallsh after hearing Messi news

They have bottomless pocket. They can buy Messi too. They will just have to sell 2-3 liabilities in their squad.

raumdeuter:
How many of these are in your first team now? Rashford started playing under LvG before Pep came to England. Its as good as counting the Patrick Roberts, Liam Delap, Cole Palmer etc

Does Foden start for City?

The only academy player Pep has promoted doesn’t even get an automatic start but you want to discuss Rashford.

Oasis007:
Messi is fuckin available!!!

Pep will buy him instead of Kane.

raumdeuter:
How much has City spent and how much has Man utd spent in that time so we can see the difference

Man Utd also had a super team in 2016, So super that they finished level on point with that super Man Citeh team in the league

Since August 2016 that Pep joined, How many academy products have been promoted into Man Utd first team

Rashford
McTominay
Tuanzebe
Greenwood
Brandon Williams
Garner
Angel Gomes
Tahith Chong
Fosu-Mensah

The list is endless.

raumdeuter:
How much has City spent and how much has Man utd spent in that time so we can see the difference

Man Utd also had a super team in 2016, So super that they finished level on point with that super Man Citeh team in the league

Since August 2016 that Pep joined, How many academy products have been promoted into Man Utd first team

That’s a fraudulent way of assessing it.

Even before Pep was given the job, they had superior talents in David Silva, De Bruyne, Kompany, Aguero, Yaya Toure, Sterling and Fernandinho.

Nobody at United was better than these players(position for position) at the end of 15/16 season. Despite this big gap in quality, Pep have gone on to spend more than United in the last 6 seasons.

How then can you compare both squads? Which super team did United have in 15/16? The one that crashed out of CL group while City were one goal away from playing in the CL final?

raumdeuter:
Pep spent almost the same amount to build a better team. You were spending your money to buy the players your team felt will take them there
Your manager prioritized James speed while Pep prioritized ability in tight spaces.

Pep didn’t spent almost the same amount. Where did you get that from?

Pep met a super team on ground and then went on to spend billions on it to make it even better.

So the gap kept getting wider. This was a man touted as the best developer of academy players before his arrival at City.

6 seasons since his arrival at City, the only academy product Pep has promoted is Foden. One player in 6 seasons for the guru of academy products.

You people are easily brainwashed by Pep.

raumdeuter:
The price for Dan James is not that different from what City spent on Gundogan

If you use your 1bilion to buy Molue and someone used his to buy Ferrari hows it a problem

So you agree with the OP then that a Ferrari is better than a Molue?

That’s what the OP was saying. How we got here wasn’t his intention or focus. He just wants United to buy a Ferrari instead of a molue. You are still making his point.

I didn’t ask you about Gundogan. I asked you if you were to rank all the wingers in both squads, where would you put Daniel James in your ranking? The fact that you didn’t show us your ranking already proves OP’s point.

raumdeuter:
Matic and Cavani were around 30 when they were bought, While Pep was buying younger players Man Utd was buying matured players

You are making the OP’s point.

The quality in the City squad is better.

raumdeuter:
Then VDBeek will play midfield in 4-4-2 or play Daniel James

Beautiful…..

So if you were to rank Sterling, Mahrez, Bernardo Silva, Grealish, and Daniel James, where would James be in your ranking?

raumdeuter:
------------DDG
AWB--Lindelof Maguire Shaw
-------------McTom--Pogba
------------------Mata
--Sancho--Martial--Rashford


------------Henderson
Dalot----Varane--Bailly--Telles
-----------Matic--Fred
-------------Bruno
--Greenwood--Cavani--VdBeek-

Mata - 33 years
Matic - 33 years
Cavani - 34 years.

The City squad has more quality. It’s not just about personnel, even Burnley would boast of 2 teams. The underlying quality is the main crux.

Putting Van de Beek as a left winger has already killed your argument.

raumdeuter:
I don't know the details of the agreement but Kane signing a long term deal when he knew he wanted to leave was silly

Gentleman agreement is not enforcible, only hard written paper deals signed are.
He should fire his agent or just go beg Levy. Legally Levy can told onto him for as long as he wanted

The agenda against certain players like Pogba is my main point, If Pogba dance, it becomes a story, if he sneeze wahala, he takes picture with someone gbege!!

But media choir boys like Kane can do no wrong

Pogba is a scapegoat - the mainstream media have decided to make him the punch bag. I remember one time he tinted his hair blue and the media said it was because he wanted to join Man City.

Kane is the golden boy and he’s English. He can’t do no wrong with the media. We see these double standards everyday but it seems nothing is going to ever change. Not turning up for training is the lowest level of professionalism but watch the media take turns to lick Kane’s behind.

raumdeuter:
Kane doesnt show up for training. Imagine if this was Pogba. England for dey on fire now about how useless Pogba is

Apparently, there was a gentleman’s agreement last year that Kane would move this summer.

Daniel Levy has reneged on the agreement and he’s asking him to stay longer.

Kane needs to win titles for posterity and your point stands. If this was Pogba, Graeme Souness would be asking for him to get arrested.

No one is also saying anything about Nuno Espirito losing the dressing room or bullying Kane or Kane getting tired of negative tactics.

Nuno isn’t Jose.

patrickmuf:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47203118

That was what we heard when he made the transfer but having looked at Juventus’ payroll, it became evidently clear that Ramsey was on €7m per year.

patrickmuf:
Ramsey is on 400k or thereabout at Juve...If Pogba joins them on a free, he will easily pocket 400 - 500k...

In all, I'm tired of the drama...I think the club wants the issue completely resolved before making the next move in the market. Pogba has to make a decision and quickly...

Ramsey is on 400K? I doubt it.

Maybe if you include add-ons. Last I checked, his salary is €7m per year. That’s €140,000/week.

BlueAngel444:
a free transfer always benefits the player more, even if Pogba turns 30, he will collect sign on fee plus increased salary.

If no team is willing to increase his salary now, which is high as it is, then he will likely wait.

I don’t think there’s any club in Europe that would pay Pogba more than what United are currently paying him.

By the time his current contract expires, he will be almost 30. Unless he’s willing to take a salary cut, it doesn’t make any economic sense for him to leave Man Utd.

Pogba is stuck with United.

patrickmuf:
His best bet is Madrid next season but will they want a player who will be almost 30 years in their books? I doubt...I think they'd go for a long term fix...

PSG already have their midfield 3 sorted out in Gueye, Veratti and Wijnaldum unless they decide to do Wijnaldum dirty and pay up for Pogba leaving Wijnaldum with no choice but a bench role...

Mama Pogba doesn’t want PSG so there’s no likelihood he ends there.

Zidane’s departure has also ruined his plans for Madrid.

Pogba has ran out of options unless he heads back to Juventus.

patrickmuf:
Lol...

Abeg what's the latest on Pogba and our pursuit of a CDM/CM?

Pogba stays but with the potential of leaving for free next summer.

Real Madrid can’t afford him, PSG don’t want him and even if they do, I don’t think they can afford his transfer fee with a year left on his contract.

Raiola must have pröstituted him to all the big clubs around with no one showing keen interest. By the time his contract is up next summer, he would be almost 30.

United have him in a corner. If he stays this summer, they should be in a super advantage to further extend his contract. Pogba is a wonderful player that has been mismanaged at the club.

He needs us, we need him.

CapitalCee:
Sensible people are posting stats from official EPL site. Another simpleton is pulling out rubbish figures one kpangolo site

We can all manipulate stats to suit any agenda. Even on that pangolo site, Grealish’s ass was kicked by Bruno.

And the last time I checked, more than 600 fellow professional football players in the Premier League voted for Bruno in the PFA team of the year. Grealish was conspicuously missing.

BlueMann:
No offense, buuuuuuut....that chart doesn't really showcase Bruno's superiority over Grealish.

I mean, 0.30-0.27 isn't that wide apart ya know

Is this wide apart enough for you?

BlueMann:
No offense, buuuuuuut....that chart doesn't really showcase Bruno's superiority over Grealish.

I mean, 0.30-0.27 isn't that wide apart ya know

Because it has been divided by 90(to accommodate for Grealish’s small number of minutes played last season).

And this is xA(expected number of assists from open play) - a metric that focuses on giving credits to the player who passed the ball before the shot was taken.

Obere4u:
And Bruno played more matches ...

You simply don’t understand statistics.

A metric was giving to you per 90 and you are still stressing the fact that Bruno played more matches

The stupidity in this thread is starting to go overboard.

How can anyone with a functional brain compare Grealish to King Bruno?

SMH.