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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:05pm On May 05, 2021
Jodera:
The way you chat shiit here, I won't be surprised if you literally chat using your anus. The kind of stench you ooze most times is terrible.

So now it's progression and regression of previous season that determines one's spending shey? So to you, guardiola came only to England to make progress in UCL only. While you felt he regressed in UCL, you foolish high IQ won't tell you he progressed in league 4th-3rd shey. Progression and regression is all about moving from s/f to final and vice versa in your high IQ mind, and not about trophies again.
All these shalaye just to prove that you're a hypocrite who needs your club to spend £1b but is criticizing someone who spent such.

I won't be surprise if actually you use your anus to talk cos the only thing that comes out your illimitable mouth anus when you speak and type is....Shit!!!
You are one of the most stupid people on the planet. The manager before him won the league title. Every manager City hired has won the league title since the Arab owners took over. What progress?

Man City didn’t sign Pep to win the PL, they were doing well without him in the league. Their biggest desire was the European glory. Mancini won the league, Pellegrini won the league but your stupidity has beclouded your 2 lean brain cells.

I want my club to spend that much because they make that much in revenue and that was the reason the FFP was created. To make clubs spend what they generate as a club instead of money laundering from their owners.

If you are too stupid to understand that simple context, why are you even here pretending to understand football finance? As big as you are, you don’t understand the difference between the revenue generated by a club and the money pumped into a club by rich owners?

Your Christian name should be stupidity.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:26pm On May 05, 2021
Leyqute:
Are you serious? shocked shocked

Man Utd spent money senselesslyhuh
When people run out of points, they start talking shit.

Man Utd spent senselessly or Woodward was saving money for his slave masters. grin

With an opportunity to close the gap on 19 points, Woodward signed Fred, Dalot & Lee Grant. One would think these 3 players were in top 10 Ballon d’Or list.

When Pep finished 15 points behind Conte’s Chelsea, he was given £200m to spend on his defence alone. The defence that already had Kompany, Otamendi, Mangala, Delph, Bravo, Zabaleta, etc.

I think Kompany or Stones got injured before the New Year and Pep quickly responded by signing Laporte in January - another record signing for a defender. It’s impossible for any manager to fail at Man City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:02pm On May 05, 2021
Festus Onigbinde would have won 3 league titles in a row with this quality of players.

How can any manager fail with this level of backing?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:56pm On May 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Maguire is the most expensive defender in the world
Pogba is the most expensive midfielder in the league
Lukaku was the most expensive striker in the league

That Pep spent his own money wisely and Man Utd spent foolishly doesnt excuse your team
I knew you would come with this stupid explanation to justify Pep’s spendings as if one defender is what is needed in a defence unit.

All the defenders(not one) that Pep signed, were British or world records. Pep was practically breaking his own record in each transfer he made.

I haven’t mentioned Cancelo whose deal was almost £70m cos Danilo went the other way to Juventus or John Stones at £50m. Pep has spent more than £300m on defenders alone which is more than Man Utd spent on Pogba, Lukaku and Maguire.

In other words, Pep has a record breaking goalkeeper and nearly every defender at his disposal were record breakers in the defence - but your equivalent to that disgusting spending is to mention 3 players who play in 3 different departments of the team.

Come on now, does this make sense to you?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:37pm On May 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
Did Man Utd not have the luxury of signing? For defence you have signed Dalot AWB, Bailly, Lindelof Maguire Telles
In midfield, You have signed Matic, Pogba Bruno VdB Mikitaryan Sanchez, Dan James,
Pep bought Bravo before sticking with Ederson and Steffen for reserve for the first team the same time you had Grant Romero, Henderson and DDG

Pep is sure to win the league and Carling this season and has a 50% chance of winning the CL and this is probably his most succesful season at City. Most of the run has been without any of KdB(injured), Aguero, Silva and Kompany
This is another distortion of facts. Men are out here pretending not to know the difference between quality and quantity.

Nearly every City defender Pep has bought broke British transfer record for a defender.

This is what Raumdeuter is comparing to signing Dalot, Bailly, Lindelof and Telles. grin

I have met some very thick people on this forum but this here takes the cake.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:24pm On May 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
I won't say firing the coaches was wrong if they were not delivering. The problem was hiring the wrong coaches to start with. You hired someone like Mourinho and LvG. See how their career was going before and after Man Utd

LvG sacked Bayern in 2011, he went into semi retirement with the Dutch National team, Man Utd hired him, after Man Utd he hasnt coached anyone again

Mourinho sacked by Madrid and Chelsea then Man Utd signed him. Since Man Utd, he has been fired by Spurs and now hired by Roma

Ole what was his credentials before hiring? I know he was brought to be an interim but overperformed during the interim regime.

I won't blame Glazer for this, They are businessmen, Someone recommended the coaches and they paid. Just like someone recommended Pep to Mansoor and he paid
This take is incredibly stupid.

Ole overperformed during the interim regime by winning what? grin

Apparently, if you lost 5, won 3 and drew 2 games, you have overperfomed. grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:13pm On May 05, 2021
Jodera:
.....Says the fraud who wants his team to spend £1b in order to compete with Man city. grin

You and confusion na 5&6 grin grin
You are too stupid to understand context.

Pep inherited a team that made semifinal & he was only able to make it after 5 seasons with $1 billion spent.

Is that progression or regression?

I want United to spend lots of money because United as a club generate lots of money. I would rather the money made by United is spent on United rather than the pockets of the Glazers or loan repayments.

I don’t expect you to understand though, this discourse is for the high IQ folks. Once it’s time to discuss the daily delivery of NAPEP bikes, I would consult your valued expertise in that field.

You are too daft to understand football finance. tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:48pm On May 05, 2021
raumdeuter:
So did he make the CL final or win the CL in his time at Madrid
It’s like you don’t understand progression.

Mourinho inherited a team that finished in round of 16 for 8 consecutive seasons and he got them to 3 semifinals in a row.

The next manager inherited a team that was one penalty shootout kick away from a CL final - the next manager inherited a much better team than Mourinho did and won the CL. The next manager also spent more.

Zidane also inherited a team that already won CL so winning it again was also inevitable. Neither Ancelotti or Zidane inherited a team that hadn’t gotten past R16 in 8 seasons.

The bulk of the development and the winning mentality was instilled by Mourinho. This is why Florentino Perez can’t be grateful enough to Jose. He knows fully well there would never have been the La Decima or the subsequent CL victories without Mourinho.

Compare that to Pep that inherited a Bayern team that won a TREBLE the previous 2 months and failed to get that same team into a final(never mind winning it) for 3 consecutive seasons. All Pep needed to do was to maintain the status quo and he failed repeatedly.

Fast forward to Man City. Pep inherited a team that were CL semi finalists. All Pep needed to do after $1 billion spent is to push them one step further and he was only able to do so after 5 different attempts. If Man City weren’t small timers(no champions league trophy in history), they would have sacked Pep by now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:20pm On May 05, 2021
Oasis007:


Who else can't wait?!
The greatest manager of all time - unlike that bald fraud at Man City that needed $1 billion to get into UCL semifinal.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:09pm On May 05, 2021
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "My job is the results. We want to get back to winning trophies, we haven't won for a while and that's something we're working on. I'm sure fans can see what the players are doing."
Says the man that couldn’t beat Leicester in the FA cup.

This man is a joke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:03pm On May 05, 2021
Oasis007:
cheesy

Solskjær: "I've been communicating with the owners, I've got an apology personally."
Ole is a traitor.

We can as well start calling him Ole Gunnar Glazer.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:51pm On May 05, 2021
larride:
City v Madrid final will be lit sha.

Zidane has never lost a final as a manager. 9/9

Pep has lost just 1 final. 15/16

It will be fun to watch which bald will win.
I want Chelsea to make the final. Tuchel’s side are well drilled in stopping Pep. Chelsea will understand how to stop City than Madrid. Tuchel stopped Pep at Wembley recently by tactically outwitting Pep.

City will win the CL if Madrid makes it to the final.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:40pm On May 05, 2021
Joezinho:
Manchester United was beaten helplessly by Instabul Basashe whatever the fvck they are called and Ole Gollum smiled helplessly like a gecko is enough reason why he should have been sacked and put an end to mediocrity..
Any club with serious owners would have sacked the PE teacher immediately after that loss that resulted in United’s elimination from CL.

Emery, Lampard, etc didn’t fail to that level when they got handed their P45s. Ole is the Glazers’ poster boy. He could relegate United and they will give him a new contract.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:34pm On May 05, 2021
These are the players Ole labelled as dead woods, they are all celebrating a league victory.

Ole’s special woods can’t even overcome Leicester and Wolves in domestic cup competitions.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:47pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
See our captain grin grin
If he had just stayed in the same line with McTominay, Everton’s last minute equalizer would have been disallowed for a clear offside.

Maguire simply felt he should keep everyone ONside cos he knows his friends in the media would blame De Gea for not coming out to claim the ball at the edge of the box. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:41pm On May 04, 2021
weedtaker:
Again comparing Maguire and Pogba lol.

The only comparison is their fee, nothing else.. at 22 Pogba was rubbing shoulders with the big boys by being included in the World XI, at that age Maguire was still battling relegation in the Efl.

Main Man has appeared in a CL final, Europa Final, Euro Final, World Cup final, Fa cup final, Copa Italia finals, Super cup final etc.

Maguire's biggest achievement is getting the armband from Ole within weeks of his signing at Man United.
#Respect ....X3
This was Maguire in the last few seconds against Everton. cheesy angry

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:31pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
Same way Pogba needs a hardworking midfield partner (Marchisio, Kante etc) to shine that is the same way Maguire needs a fast CB partner
The difference here is Maguire has played with several defenders from Hull to Leicester to Man Utd without winning a spoon.

Are you sure he’s not the common denominator in all the failure? Maguire left Leicester and they are suddenly playing in a domestic cup final.

Maguire came to United and United can’t seem to get past the semis in a domestic cup final. Are you thinking what I am thinking? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:29pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
Mourinho almost signed Maguire, grin
Because he was told Koulibaly and Toby Alderweireld weren’t going to be signed as they were too old.

Mourinho wanted anything but Smalling & Jones.

The only thing good about Maguire is his durability. I will not lie and claim Maguire is totally useless. He’s always fit and that has to count for something in a league considered the toughest in the world.

Maguire’s durability is a plus and I won’t deny him his credits for that. However, in terms of real footballing ability, the guy is a joke. He should be a bench player that can be called upon if one of the elite defenders is injured or suspended.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:19pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
If you want us to lose any game, just pair Pogba and Fred cheesy cheesy
Pogba won a World Cup.

Pogba scored in a World Cup final.

Pogba won multiple titles at Juventus.

What is Maguire’s biggest achievement? Relegated Hull! tongue
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:12pm On May 04, 2021
weedtaker:
lololololololololololol


Maguire is trash though, to think stones was a laughing stock back then cause he cost city 50millions, he is so so clear of Maguire, it’s unreal.

80million of the queens finest silver for someone who isn’t even better than Jones, how someone wasn’t shot for that deal is beyond me.
That deal smells of money laundering.

There’s no way anyone believes Maguire is worth that amount. A fit Phil Jones is better than Maguire and Jones is one of the worst defenders in the history of the game. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:11pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
That is the same way Paul Pogba needs a hardworking midfield partner to shine........
grin grin
Pogba is mismanaged. Pogba is not a DM.

Maguire is a CB. He’s never been played in any other position apart from CB and yet we still need him to play next to some quality defender to look great.

Pogba still looks great no matter where he plays. Pace is not his problem. He can tackle, dribble and pass wherever he plays.

Can you say the same about Maguire? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:08pm On May 04, 2021
weedtaker:
look at Thiago Silva at Chelsea, despite his age. You just know straight up that he is quality. No talk of needing a fast CB partner or wingbacks overlapping.

He came in and took command, no time for shalaye
Brilliant reference.

Thiago Silva even lied about his age. His real age is north of 40 years and you know he’s quality. He’s slow but you hardly notice cos his positioning is always spot on.

Maguire, on the other hand, is just trash. The amount of goals he causes directly or indirectly because of his low IQ is not Premier League quality.

Maguire should be playing in EFL. Coady and Tarkowski are better than Maguire.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:59pm On May 04, 2021
Oasis007:
Maguire wasn't a Failure at Hull City Bruh. A Failure wouldn't be voted by Fans as well as Co Players as Club's best Player of the Season in separate Awards.
In a relegated club? grin

The standards are on the floor.

Darmian would win those awards for 6 seasons in a row at Hull.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:58pm On May 04, 2021
weedtaker:
We know we can’t replace Maguire in the starting 11, the owners won’t allow that, not to talk of Ole who made him top priority and gave him the armband.

So we try to pretend that everything is fine and we just need a solid dm and a fast CB to partner Maguire Aka The elephant in the room.
It’s the excuses that grate me. Maguire always needs a partner to hold his hand. People always want him to play next to some quality defender in another club.

No one ever asks Ramos to play next to Boateng or Prime John Terry. Ramos goes there at his old age and whips out top class performance.

Maguire must play next to Vidic before we can see his talent. Why can’t we simply admit he doesn’t have any talent and bin the imbecilé?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:52pm On May 04, 2021
Oasis007:
First bolded, guess you're referring to Scholes, Owen, Gary and Keane? They are our Legends, they are Pundits and do inciting Fans against Club's Management a lot. So what Glazers have to do with it? Is there any Evidence they are forcing it on Managers to develop and integrate wrong Signings?

Second boldest..... who will riot? Fans incited by Gary and Co or Glazers?!
The media control the narrative.

That’s British media for you. Maguire only needed to play in a 3-man defence at the World Cup for the British media to hype him as the best English defender on the planet.

The bait was presented for the prodigal son called Ed Woodward and he took the bait. Koulibaly was available in that summer but Woodward chose a failure defender that relegated Hull some seasons ago.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:48pm On May 04, 2021
raumdeuter:
The condition of the team was that they had CR7 and Kaka 2 WPOTY, Man City does not have any WPOTY or anyone who has ever made top 3
Why were they getting knocked out in the round of 16 for 8 consecutive seasons?

Kaka & Cristiano were injured in those seasons or were they diagnosed of COVID-11? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:46pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
Alisson that won best GK/golden gloves in all competition that season.

I wonder why Van dijk can't help Netherland's defense.
I could name 10 defenders better than Maguire in 18/19 season.

Maguire was trash.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:45pm On May 04, 2021
hensben:
Is it by Madrid, what was the condition of the team when mou took over compare to man city under pep and how much did he spend in those clubs compare to pep in those period.
Don’t mind the hater.

This was what Florentino Perez said about Mourinho during the ESL interview….

”Mourinho raised the level of competitiveness in the three years that he was here. And since 2011 we have reached nine of 11 Champions League semi-finals. I will always be grateful to him for that gene that he implanted in us. Before [Mourinho arrived] we were always getting knocked out in the last 16."
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:42pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
Van Dijk did not solve Liverpool's defensive issues alone.

Alisson, Fabinho and Henderson contributed massively.

There is a reason we keep more clean sheets with Baily and Maguire.
He solved it all by himself.

He made everyone else’s job easier. You can’t outpace him, you can’t bully Van Dijk, he’s a towering monster. He had all the qualities required from a world class player.

Maguire is just an English fridge.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:39pm On May 04, 2021
nitrogen:
Point and kill defender is now the solution to all defensive problems at Liverpool? Take it easy now!
Van Dijk isn’t point and kill.

He raised Liverpool’s level by the power of 10 all by himself.

Bums like Matip, Gomez and Fabinho looked world class beside Van Dijk.

That’s what world class players do. They improve everyone else.

Maguire has made decent United defenders even look poor because they always have to stay beside him in case he’s exposed.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
raumdeuter:
Mourinho managed Madrid the biggest team in Europe who won 4 CL after Mourinho, Manchester United the richest club in the world
We can see how Carlo and Zidane won the CL with the same team Mourinho failed with
Madrid hadn’t won a CL trophy 8 years before Mourinho arrived.

Bayern won the TREBLE 2 months before Pep arrived in Germany.

A failure is a failure - no matter how you paint it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:33pm On May 04, 2021
Expert17:
Get Maguire a fast CB partner and a sensible DM, he is good to go.

Maguire of Leicester was only behind Van Dijk when it comes to best CB in EPL.
The talk is always getting a Maguire a partner like he’s a bride.

When Van Dijk was signed by Liverpool, he made average defenders look world class all by himself. No one ever said he needed a fast, slow, obese, short, tall partner.

For £75m or £80m fee, a defender should be the solution to all defensive problems in a club. If Maguire needs another partner to function, why did he cost £80m?

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