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Jodera:You are one of the most stupid people on the planet. The manager before him won the league title. Every manager City hired has won the league title since the Arab owners took over. What progress? Man City didn’t sign Pep to win the PL, they were doing well without him in the league. Their biggest desire was the European glory. Mancini won the league, Pellegrini won the league but your stupidity has beclouded your 2 lean brain cells. I want my club to spend that much because they make that much in revenue and that was the reason the FFP was created. To make clubs spend what they generate as a club instead of money laundering from their owners. If you are too stupid to understand that simple context, why are you even here pretending to understand football finance? As big as you are, you don’t understand the difference between the revenue generated by a club and the money pumped into a club by rich owners? Your Christian name should be stupidity. |
Leyqute:When people run out of points, they start talking shit. Man Utd spent senselessly or Woodward was saving money for his slave masters. ![]() With an opportunity to close the gap on 19 points, Woodward signed Fred, Dalot & Lee Grant. One would think these 3 players were in top 10 Ballon d’Or list. When Pep finished 15 points behind Conte’s Chelsea, he was given £200m to spend on his defence alone. The defence that already had Kompany, Otamendi, Mangala, Delph, Bravo, Zabaleta, etc. I think Kompany or Stones got injured before the New Year and Pep quickly responded by signing Laporte in January - another record signing for a defender. It’s impossible for any manager to fail at Man City. |
Festus Onigbinde would have won 3 league titles in a row with this quality of players. How can any manager fail with this level of backing?
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raumdeuter:I knew you would come with this stupid explanation to justify Pep’s spendings as if one defender is what is needed in a defence unit. All the defenders(not one) that Pep signed, were British or world records. Pep was practically breaking his own record in each transfer he made. I haven’t mentioned Cancelo whose deal was almost £70m cos Danilo went the other way to Juventus or John Stones at £50m. Pep has spent more than £300m on defenders alone which is more than Man Utd spent on Pogba, Lukaku and Maguire. In other words, Pep has a record breaking goalkeeper and nearly every defender at his disposal were record breakers in the defence - but your equivalent to that disgusting spending is to mention 3 players who play in 3 different departments of the team. Come on now, does this make sense to you? |
raumdeuter:This is another distortion of facts. Men are out here pretending not to know the difference between quality and quantity. Nearly every City defender Pep has bought broke British transfer record for a defender. This is what Raumdeuter is comparing to signing Dalot, Bailly, Lindelof and Telles. ![]() I have met some very thick people on this forum but this here takes the cake.
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raumdeuter:This take is incredibly stupid. Ole overperformed during the interim regime by winning what? ![]() Apparently, if you lost 5, won 3 and drew 2 games, you have overperfomed. ![]()
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Jodera:You are too stupid to understand context. Pep inherited a team that made semifinal & he was only able to make it after 5 seasons with $1 billion spent. Is that progression or regression? I want United to spend lots of money because United as a club generate lots of money. I would rather the money made by United is spent on United rather than the pockets of the Glazers or loan repayments. I don’t expect you to understand though, this discourse is for the high IQ folks. Once it’s time to discuss the daily delivery of NAPEP bikes, I would consult your valued expertise in that field. You are too daft to understand football finance. ![]() |
raumdeuter:It’s like you don’t understand progression. Mourinho inherited a team that finished in round of 16 for 8 consecutive seasons and he got them to 3 semifinals in a row. The next manager inherited a team that was one penalty shootout kick away from a CL final - the next manager inherited a much better team than Mourinho did and won the CL. The next manager also spent more. Zidane also inherited a team that already won CL so winning it again was also inevitable. Neither Ancelotti or Zidane inherited a team that hadn’t gotten past R16 in 8 seasons. The bulk of the development and the winning mentality was instilled by Mourinho. This is why Florentino Perez can’t be grateful enough to Jose. He knows fully well there would never have been the La Decima or the subsequent CL victories without Mourinho. Compare that to Pep that inherited a Bayern team that won a TREBLE the previous 2 months and failed to get that same team into a final(never mind winning it) for 3 consecutive seasons. All Pep needed to do was to maintain the status quo and he failed repeatedly. Fast forward to Man City. Pep inherited a team that were CL semi finalists. All Pep needed to do after $1 billion spent is to push them one step further and he was only able to do so after 5 different attempts. If Man City weren’t small timers(no champions league trophy in history), they would have sacked Pep by now. |
Oasis007:The greatest manager of all time - unlike that bald fraud at Man City that needed $1 billion to get into UCL semifinal. |
Oasis007:Says the man that couldn’t beat Leicester in the FA cup. This man is a joke. |
Oasis007:Ole is a traitor. We can as well start calling him Ole Gunnar Glazer. |
larride:I want Chelsea to make the final. Tuchel’s side are well drilled in stopping Pep. Chelsea will understand how to stop City than Madrid. Tuchel stopped Pep at Wembley recently by tactically outwitting Pep. City will win the CL if Madrid makes it to the final. |
Joezinho:Any club with serious owners would have sacked the PE teacher immediately after that loss that resulted in United’s elimination from CL. Emery, Lampard, etc didn’t fail to that level when they got handed their P45s. Ole is the Glazers’ poster boy. He could relegate United and they will give him a new contract. |
These are the players Ole labelled as dead woods, they are all celebrating a league victory. Ole’s special woods can’t even overcome Leicester and Wolves in domestic cup competitions.
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Expert17:If he had just stayed in the same line with McTominay, Everton’s last minute equalizer would have been disallowed for a clear offside. Maguire simply felt he should keep everyone ONside cos he knows his friends in the media would blame De Gea for not coming out to claim the ball at the edge of the box. ![]() |
weedtaker:This was Maguire in the last few seconds against Everton. ![]()
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Expert17:The difference here is Maguire has played with several defenders from Hull to Leicester to Man Utd without winning a spoon. Are you sure he’s not the common denominator in all the failure? Maguire left Leicester and they are suddenly playing in a domestic cup final. Maguire came to United and United can’t seem to get past the semis in a domestic cup final. Are you thinking what I am thinking? ![]() |
Expert17:Because he was told Koulibaly and Toby Alderweireld weren’t going to be signed as they were too old. Mourinho wanted anything but Smalling & Jones. The only thing good about Maguire is his durability. I will not lie and claim Maguire is totally useless. He’s always fit and that has to count for something in a league considered the toughest in the world. Maguire’s durability is a plus and I won’t deny him his credits for that. However, in terms of real footballing ability, the guy is a joke. He should be a bench player that can be called upon if one of the elite defenders is injured or suspended. |
Expert17:Pogba won a World Cup. Pogba scored in a World Cup final. Pogba won multiple titles at Juventus. What is Maguire’s biggest achievement? Relegated Hull! ![]() |
weedtaker:That deal smells of money laundering. There’s no way anyone believes Maguire is worth that amount. A fit Phil Jones is better than Maguire and Jones is one of the worst defenders in the history of the game. ![]() |
Expert17:Pogba is mismanaged. Pogba is not a DM. Maguire is a CB. He’s never been played in any other position apart from CB and yet we still need him to play next to some quality defender to look great. Pogba still looks great no matter where he plays. Pace is not his problem. He can tackle, dribble and pass wherever he plays. Can you say the same about Maguire? ![]() |
weedtaker:Brilliant reference. Thiago Silva even lied about his age. His real age is north of 40 years and you know he’s quality. He’s slow but you hardly notice cos his positioning is always spot on. Maguire, on the other hand, is just trash. The amount of goals he causes directly or indirectly because of his low IQ is not Premier League quality. Maguire should be playing in EFL. Coady and Tarkowski are better than Maguire. |
Oasis007:In a relegated club? ![]() The standards are on the floor. Darmian would win those awards for 6 seasons in a row at Hull. |
weedtaker:It’s the excuses that grate me. Maguire always needs a partner to hold his hand. People always want him to play next to some quality defender in another club. No one ever asks Ramos to play next to Boateng or Prime John Terry. Ramos goes there at his old age and whips out top class performance. Maguire must play next to Vidic before we can see his talent. Why can’t we simply admit he doesn’t have any talent and bin the imbecilé? |
Oasis007:The media control the narrative. That’s British media for you. Maguire only needed to play in a 3-man defence at the World Cup for the British media to hype him as the best English defender on the planet. The bait was presented for the prodigal son called Ed Woodward and he took the bait. Koulibaly was available in that summer but Woodward chose a failure defender that relegated Hull some seasons ago. |
raumdeuter:Why were they getting knocked out in the round of 16 for 8 consecutive seasons? Kaka & Cristiano were injured in those seasons or were they diagnosed of COVID-11? ![]() |
Expert17:I could name 10 defenders better than Maguire in 18/19 season. Maguire was trash. |
hensben:Don’t mind the hater. This was what Florentino Perez said about Mourinho during the ESL interview…. ”Mourinho raised the level of competitiveness in the three years that he was here. And since 2011 we have reached nine of 11 Champions League semi-finals. I will always be grateful to him for that gene that he implanted in us. Before [Mourinho arrived] we were always getting knocked out in the last 16." |
Expert17:He solved it all by himself. He made everyone else’s job easier. You can’t outpace him, you can’t bully Van Dijk, he’s a towering monster. He had all the qualities required from a world class player. Maguire is just an English fridge. |
nitrogen:Van Dijk isn’t point and kill. He raised Liverpool’s level by the power of 10 all by himself. Bums like Matip, Gomez and Fabinho looked world class beside Van Dijk. That’s what world class players do. They improve everyone else. Maguire has made decent United defenders even look poor because they always have to stay beside him in case he’s exposed. |
raumdeuter:Madrid hadn’t won a CL trophy 8 years before Mourinho arrived. Bayern won the TREBLE 2 months before Pep arrived in Germany. A failure is a failure - no matter how you paint it. |
Expert17:The talk is always getting a Maguire a partner like he’s a bride. When Van Dijk was signed by Liverpool, he made average defenders look world class all by himself. No one ever said he needed a fast, slow, obese, short, tall partner. For £75m or £80m fee, a defender should be the solution to all defensive problems in a club. If Maguire needs another partner to function, why did he cost £80m? |
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