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Android17:
You are deceiving yourself. You queried why he was fired a week before the finals and pointed to his finals records in the Carling Cup as proof that he could have won against City in 2021. I asked you which of the teams in those years you mentioned should have beat him. You knew what it meant and started with Liverpool. After I debunked all the lies you wanted to tell about Liverpool you switched to United. lol. This particular lie is played out so try another.

I knew what it meant?

Next time, write intelligibly instead of forcing people to guess what you meant. Finals are the icing on the cake. There are many hoops to jump to get into a final. Saying Mourinho was expected to win that final is false.

Stop lying.

Android17:
See who is calling me names? I attached where the same article called the Chelsea Newcastle fixture at the end of the season difficult. lol. Mourinho had a history with both SAF and Sir Bobby Robson. That is why that adjective was used. lol
https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/chelsea-face-man-united-in-season-opener

Look at this fool creating his own narrative. The end of the season fixture was tough simply because it’s an away game. It’s totally different from playing a home game, the first game of the season. Like you said, this was a side expected to succeed in 04/05. They won the same fixture the previous season, why should that be daunting?

Android17:
Where did anyone mention "deliver on all fronts"? lol. See this liar. You are in for it.

“Mourinho is supposed to succeed in England”

Android17:
You are not clever. You are making my argument for me. I said his chelsea was called boring and you tried to counter it by telling me he won 29 games. I responded by telling you that winning is not tantamount to being entertaining. lol. So thank you.

This special child just can’t get the syllogism.

I didn’t make the point for you, I was destroying your point that said he was boring. I cited Spain, a side everyone agreed played the best attacking football in Europe, as being boring.

Same as Mourinho - played the best attacking football that season and his haters said he was boring because they couldn’t beat him. I am exposing your hypocrisy that it’s impossible for a boring side to notch 95 points.

Android17:
That you are one of the top 2 favorites is not tantamount to walking the league. Chelsea were one of the top 2 favourites in 2009/10 but they did not walk the league. Nobody mentioned walking the league. Your deflections are useless.

You are a disgrace to formal education. What is the meaning of top 2 favorites? How is a side with huge expectations become top 2? What happened to the adjective ‘hottest’ favorite? A side that is supposed to succeed in England shouldn’t be 2nd favorites.

You have shot yourself in the foot!

Every favourite must walk the league to prove that they were favourites? And you are calling me names?

100%

You must walk the league to prove why you are hot favorites. Bayern are favorites every year, same as PSG, etc.

If you aren’t aware, that is the position you have placed Mourinho in 2004/5 in this discourse. A procession to the title with no obstacles at all. Remember you said he was supposed to succeed.

And I was calling you names? Is it possible that you are getting irritated about the name calling? If you aren’t a morön, why are you letting it get to you?

Android17:
Provide where I said this?

This is tragic!

Android17:
Chelsea were 2nd before Mourinho. He came in, got better players to add to that team and there was only one direction they were to go. Chelsea beat that same Liverpool team in the league home and away. Mourinho still believes he lost that UCL tie based on a ghost goal but you want to paint them to be this indomitable team. O wrong nau! Chelsea were better than United by far in both 2004/05-2005/06. They were supposed to beat United in those years. And Mourinho was SUPPOSED to succeed in England. Where did "I am the special one" come from? You keep talking about revisionism but that is all you have been doing - revising history. Please nobody talked Porto or Inter so stop changing the narrative.

Without any iota of doubt, you are certainly a special child.

Sniper4real:
This page long like this and na 2 pple dominated it. Our thread fit catch up with Chelsea thread with guys sha

Instead of you to be happy reading free content.

Android17:
So if I do not underline the key phrases, you will not know what I am referring to as siege mentality? lol I have made some attachments. I told you he don't need to be a victim, the manager can manipulate you into thinking you are one. lol You don't know the difference and you are always talking about IQ. lol

How can the manager manipulate media darlings to whip up a siege mentality.

You are not intelligent.

If Mourinho was universally loved by the media, siege mentality would never have worked. Jose was hated by the media like you opposed and this was why it was easy for him to whip the us vs them mentality.

Another evidence of your bi-polarism.

Android17:
This was your post:

To which I replied:

Now the one with great memory tried to lie that I said Chelsea should have won every competition they played in. You will regret ever replying me. just wait.

Is this a sign you are going weary? A man without limits will regret ever replying you? You are a fool!

You asked who would have beaten him in carling cup competitions in 2005, 2007, 2015 and 2017? If you have any brain cells, nowhere did you specifically mention the final and teams play in the other rounds before the final. Chelsea didn’t just qualify for the final - they had to play several teams to be there.

Your stupid question might have intended to mean the final but because of your lack of vocabulary skills, it actually meant no team could have beaten Chelsea in all the games they played in that competition in 4 different seasons. That was why I brought up the semis against United.

Will you now accept you are a fool once and for all and a language British missionary took to your country and taught you from cradle to adulthood has been a waste of their time? You lack the intelligence power to engage anyone with an IQ higher than 20 in any debate.

Android17:
Like Chelsea face a daunting task in their first game of the 2004-05 season against Man U is tantamount to them being underdogs?

Chelsea with huge expectations faced a daunting task at home? The same Chelsea you said were partial favorites faced a daunting task to beat Man Utd at Stamford Bridge? It should be United facing a daunting task to play Chelsea seeing that they were away and they lost the corresponding fixture the previous season.



Low IQ alert - this tells me you don’t know the meaning of daunting.

Please google it.

Android17:
Which of the 4 media houses I provided considered Arsenal the favorites and why are you mentioning the UCL to me? Stop this narrative-changing exercise. It is futile. lol

Look at this idiot - you went from huge expectations from Mourinho to deliver on all fronts to running away from CL narrative? So what was this huge expectation if I may ask? What was the minimum requirement?

Stupid boy!

Android17:
What does this have to do with me? Who is discussing the spanish national team?

It has everything to do with you. Boring boring Chelsea, remember? I cited another example where a winning team was called boring.

I just love making you look stupid.

Android17:
You are trying to be clever by half. Nobody talked about walking any league. Stop looking for a hiding place. You will find none.

It is too late to walk back your comments. You said there were huge expectations. You even lied Chelsea were the favorites. If the expectation is huge to deliver as the top favorites, why is walking the league an impossibility?

Are you a morön?

Android17:
lol I am sure you are wondering how you got yourself in this mess.

Stop giving yourself these stupid assurances. You don’t need to be second guessing what I am wondering about. It’s a weakness.

You call this a mess? This fool will literally remove all his ribs to suck his own dïck. You could add the energy and the intelligence of every congregation in your church or mosque, it still won’t be enough.

This isn’t a mess. This is my natural habitat and this is why I am dog-walking you.

Android17:
Yet I have mentioned not 1, not 2, not 3..yet someone is insisting that Mourinho was given no chance at all.

Android17:
Nobody talked about walking any league.

I keep insisting you are a morön. These were your utterances in the last 24 hours.

Chelsea had huge expectations to win in 04/05.
Nobody talked about walking the league
Chelsea were the title favorites in 04/05
Chelsea had no problems winning CC in 2005.

If I didn’t know better, I would think you are normal but these are the signs of you being a bipolar. Nearly everything you write in one comment contradicts the previous one.

If Chelsea were the title favorites in 04/05 like you claim, why wouldn’t they walk the league? If you also claim the hopes weren’t as high as walking the league, why would you insinuate they were supposed to win CC in 2005 against Liverpool(final) and United(semis)?

You are stupid and I have a zero tolerance policy for stupidity.

Android17:
You can only call names because your arguments are conjectural and lacking in substance. You don't need to be a victim to have a siege mentality. You can be paranoid enough to have one or you can make it up to use as a motivational tool. You picked the wrong person to lie to. The more names you call me, the more I will use hardcore evidence to disgrace you on this thread.

Mourinho saying the game starting from the press conference isn’t tantamount to a siege mentality. You are a stark illiterate.

Siege mentality is a shared feeling of victimization and defensiveness—a term derived from the actual experience of military defences of real sieges. It is a collective state of mind in which a group of people believe themselves constantly attacked, oppressed, or isolated in the face of the negative intentions of the rest of the world.

This fool continues to disgrace his lineage because he wants to win an argument. Playing mind games has turned to siege mentality? The maggot even said victimization has no bearing to siege mentality.

How did you manage to ace your exams in primary school?

elrony:
Omo....who be all these guys?

I warned these lizards but they won’t listen.

I told them evil has arrived on this thread. All the known agenda, useless narratives and idiotic beliefs shall be extinguished by the time I am done with them.

The first task is to destroy all the anti-Mourinho narrative and I am almost there.

Today na today, we die here.

Android17:
Same deflections. I mentioned the finals as I don't have time for your diversions. Everyone can see how you are trying to mention irrelevant details to muddy the waters. lol. Chelsea of 2004-05 beating Liverpool of 2004-05 was not a big deal. Chelsea were by far superior. Funny how you throw around Chelsea's 95 points when it is convenient and pretend that Liverpool did not have 58 points that same season.

Look at this fool!

You didn’t mention the finals. You said Mourinho was expected to win every competition Chelsea entered that season. When I mentioned Mourinho dogwalked Ferguson before the final, your reply was that he was better than Ferguson that year.

You are a disgrace.

Android17:
You are calling me a slowpoke but your posts are showing who the slowpoke is. "No one gave him a chance" yet I have provided 4 different experts/media opinions showing that there were huge expectations concerning that team and their manager. A team that finished 2nd in the league and SF of the UCL are underdogs to Liverpool?

Mourinho was expected to have difficulty in adapting to the PL and Chelsea were underdogs. No one considered Chelsea an elite in Europe and that was why Mourinho chose them over Liverpool. Chelsea were his type of an underdog team. Chelsea hadn’t won the league and they hadn’t won the champions league.

Android17:
Provide evidence for this. Let others laugh at you.

I cannot continue to provide evidence that you are a möron. You are making a good case and the others are laughing at you already.

Android17:
The difference between me and you is I am providing evidence. I even told you what he said and what the video CLEARLY shows. When I ask you for your proof you will tell me you were part of the inner caucus meetings. lol. Look at you, trying to mix-up the criticism that faced his team from August 2004 till he left in 2007 to the incident that happened just after beating Liverpool 3-2 in the Carling cup final Feb 2005. You are not clever.

This fool is actually thinking he’s providing evidence. How? Stop lying to yourself? If there were huge expectations for Mourinho to succeed, why was Arsenal the favorite to win the PL? How come Barcelona were the favorites to win CL?

Huge expectations and evidence?

Android17:
Another weak deflection. You now want to bring Spanish team. You and who are discussing the spanish team? you even wanted to claim that Jose did not agree he was boring. Okay, see Mourinho in 2014/15 being accused of same. Is he agreeing or disagreeing? lol. Lie again. I am on standby.

You are a fool!

Spanish team was called boring for passing the ball too much. So the boring tag were solely for winners. Mourinho didn’t care about the boring tag cos he knows it’s not true - it was coming from a place of hate.

You need more people to convince anyone Mourinho was expected to walk the league in the manner by which he did it. He was given no chance at all. No one really believed he was capable of breaking the Wenger-Fergie duopoly.

Your revisionism is disgusting.

Android17:
You can only call names because your arguments are conjectural and lacking in substance. You don't need to be a victim to have a siege mentality. You can be paranoid enough to have one or you can make it up to use as a motivational tool. You picked the wrong person to lie to. The more names you call me, the more I will use hardcore evidence to disgrace you on this thread.

One has to be a victim to have siege mentality.

A man universally loved like you claim don’t need a siege mentality. This is why it will not work for media darlings like Ole or Lampard at his last job.

This was the Mourinho you claimed was expected to run through the PL and deliver the title in January.

Android17:
I told you your strawman arguments are laughable. You are a novice. You are trying to bring Pep in as a diversionary tool. You wanted to claim Mourinho winning those Carling Cup finals was a big deal and I pointed out to you that he did not win any of those finals as an underdog.

You are an idiöt! I have been on this forum for about 3 months and you could be the biggest idiot I have ever encountered.

Anyone that opines beating Man Utd over 2 legs in a semifinal and beating Liverpool in the final is no big deal is an idiot. Liverpool went on to win the CL by the way - by beating the same Mourinho over two legs in CL semis.

Android17:
Name-calling to deflect again. Huge fail. You are welcome. By the way, you are the one who is lying. Nobody discussed Mourinho being special or not. I said he did not win any carling cup finals he was not expected to win. You have tried to bring up Porto, Inter to deflect and I have nabbed you severally.

You are still repeating this idiocy that Mourinho wasn’t an underdog when he clearly stated in the video that I posted it was difficult mentally for his players because they hadn’t won a spoon in 5 years. He was clearly the underdog in 2005. No one gave him a chance.

Let it be known that I am not calling you a morön to deflect, I am calling you a morön because that is what you are. I could come to your house right now and still call you a morön to your face because that is my true feelings towards your pathetic argument.

Android17:
Another sneaky deflection and outright lie (Arsenal favorites by a distance yet I keep providing more proof that many others saw Chelsea as the favorites as well). First you claimed he was not loved by the media, then you concede that he indeed was loved but that things later went sour. Now you have accepted that he was loved but you are trying to contextualize that love. You are pathetic. See you talking about Mourinho like he was Rafael Benitez in 2004. lol. Don't forget how you lied that United were 2nd favorites and I nabbed you?

He was loved by the media because of his first press conference. They hadn’t seen such an arrogant prïck in their lives but that was in June. Football didn’t start until August, you are pathetic.

The love quickly turned sour when he started shitting on the media from day one and there were loads of scandals that followed him throughout that season that made him public enemy number one. By the time carling cup semis came in January, no one wanted Mourinho in the media.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/13467960_e3ab320f76d14e1a9105b2d4def9a6c1_jpeg_jpeg492da723afb4f62f4fad9bef686803ee

Android17:
Pathetic liar. Your link and the image attached were with respect to coming from behind to beat Liverpool. He claimed to be gesturing to the press that they should "shush it" because he felt they were getting ready to write another article about Chelsea. For context, Chelsea had lost to Barca 2-1 and Newcastle in the FA Cup back to back prior to that game. Of course, everyone knows it was the Liverpool fans he was actually telling to shush it as video evidence will show.

You are a pathological liar! He was actually shushing the media. If he shushed the fans, he would say he did and apologized. Mourinho did far more serious offence than lying about what he did.

He said he shushed the media for writing negative articles about him - which you also alluded to that his team was being referred to as boring boring Chelsea. Are you going to walk back your own comments less than 24 hours?

Who raised you?

Android17:
This is literally the stupidest argument ever. You lied that the media disliked him, I debunked it. The media loved his charisma, his mind games, his siege mentality and the fact that he was winning but everyone knew his style was usually ultra defensive and boring.

This fool keeps conspiring with his village spirits to walk himself into a pit filled with vipers. For him to use a siege mentality, there must be evidence of media hatred, he must have been a victim of something. Someone universally loved by the media like you claimed cannot use siege mentality unless you don’t know the meaning of what you typed.

The siege mentality came to fore because the media hated him. A manager cannot just whip out a siege mentality without hatred. How are you a football fan and you don’t know the meaning of siege mentality?

Android17:
lol asinine deflection. Winning games does not constitute to being entertaining. You can see the attached. Read Mourinho himself describe his team and look for another lie to tell. You are in trouble. The more you lie, the more evidence I will provide. lol

Look at this idiot! A manager got 95 points winning 29 games and conceding only 15 over a season and you say he’s boring? Boring to whom? Jose was clearly repeating what was said about him - he never agreed he was boring.

The ultra attacking Spanish team that won in 2008,2010,2012 were called boring. Who gives a shit about what the media say? Only idiöts like yourself with 2 lean brain cells would use this as a crutch in your argument.

Get the fück out of my sight - with your idiotic stance!

elampiro:
But we beat Manchester City

Yes, you beat Man City in a league game but they will win the league.

In the game that mattered(Carabao Cup), they beat United 2-0 at Old Trafford and they have now won the competition.

It’s almost as if City know the kind of games they can lose that will not dent their trophy ambitions whereas Ole just loses stupidly in the games that matter.

Is there any more clear evidence that the PE teacher is totally out of his depth?

BikeMan:
Peak mediocrity? History books by bottling series of semifinals? Arsenal or Villarreal will still beat him in the finals of this one sef.

Arteta will beat Ole in the final.

I am not sure of Emery because I don’t trust the fitness of Villarreal players.

Arteta will just park the bus to frustrate Ole and deliver the killer blow in the 89th minute.

Martial’s injury has been a blessing in disguise.

PE teacher would have started the insouciant Martial instead of Cavani and United would have struggled.

El Matador is Ole’s savior.

Lana1:
Then why do these errors keep happening

They keep happening because the PE teacher can’t admit he wasted a lot of money buying the English fridge for £80m.

elampiro:
Don't mind them. The agenda people no know ball.

Illimitable has been limited tonight.

The only thing that can limit the illimitable is Ole winning the PL or CL.

Any other competition is what we have seen before under Mourinho and LVG and those two still got sacked.

So why should Ole be here?

BARAJ92:
So Young, Valencia, Jones, Smalling and Rooney did not also win the league, What did he achieve after he spend almost 500 million euros then he finished with 81 points, the highest point ever since Ferguson regime.

Valencia, Young & Rooney were 31 when Jose arrived.

You might as well go and sign Beckham and Cantona right now and use the excuse because they have won the league.

City reached CL Semis in 15/16
City won Carling cup in 15/16
City won the league in 13/14
City never finished below top 4

United won the league in 12/13
United finished 7th in 13/14
United won FA cup in 15/16
United finished 5th in 15/16
United finished in the top 4 ONLY once between 13/14 and 15/16.

These were the respective strengths of the teams before Pep and Jose arrived. If you haven’t watched football ever before, which of these teams looked stronger based on what I have posted?

City or United?

olabode89:
You are way too intelligent for some of this gaffes.

Ole didn't make tactical changes or bring on any player after half time and the team came back to blow away Roma. How come you praise the players for positive outcomes and berate Ole for negatives.

So you think game only changes because of substitutions or change in formation?

Showing more aggression or intensity alone can make the difference between losing a game by 2-0 or winning 7-0. Getting into the players head to die on the pitch is the responsibility of the manager.

When have you ever watched this United team and think they have done everything they could? Never. They always leave you with this ‘they could have done more’ vibe.

In the key games we have lost(Leicester[FA cup], Basaksehir, Leipzig, Man City[Carabao]), the fans went home heartbroken cos they knew United should have done more.

All that is down to the manager.

olabode89:
Was it Ole that told Fred to not read the run of Mhki for the second goal or Shaw that allowed Dzeko to bully and get in front of him for that same goal. Was it Ole that told Pogba to raise his hands when trying to prevent a cross in the box??

If Fred isn’t listening to instruction, why is Ole playing him week in week out and lying to the media that he has been fully backed by Glazers?

If Shaw can’t be strong against Dzeko, why is he starting? What is Ole doing to improve his strength against bully strikers? You pretend as if Ole doesn’t choose the team or review the games and assess what needed to be fixed.

Ole is 100% culpable for every mess.

CapitalCee:
I am not even talking about Roma's goal. Our play in the first half is Rubbish. This has been the story of the season. We lost to Liecester dur to this reason

That’s the only indicator you need to know that Ole is just vibes and insha Allah.

His tactical approach in nearly every game is wrong thus the disgusting first half. His saving grace is that he’s got good players he can rely on to turn things around.

I don’t know how any fan that truly loves this club can mock those that were disgusted with the first half performance.

Semifinal first leg - 2 goals conceded at half time? Why shouldn’t people be pissed at that horrendous display in the most important game of United’s season?

CapitalCee:
Remember what Roma did to Barca in 2018 UCL. But this Roma is very poor, they cant stage a come back i doubt it.

I don’t think they are as poor as the outcome of that match.

They made 3 changes in that first half that threw a spanner in their wheel.

6-2 should be comfortable but with Ole, you can’t be comfortable.

Ole lost 2-0 to Cardiff at Old Trafford

BARAJ92:
Mourinho was not back, yet he spent almost half a billion euros on the team, yet you are shouting that Ole has failed with 300 million euros he has spent after losing some key and squad players.

Mourinho won 3 trophies in the first 9 months. Are you saying Jose spent €500m in his first summer window?

Ole has been here almost 3 years, what has he won?

BARAJ92:
Both Mourinho and Pep were employed same time, Mourinho was more experience in the league. They spend almost same amount in those three transfer windows.
While Man Utd spend more than Man city in the two previous transfer windows before Mourinho. Yet he was not back because he wanted the board to buy expired defenders which they refused.

What about the quality players Pep inherited? Did they all die off when Pep arrived?

One could even argue the players Pep inherited have been more important in their success than the ones bought by Pep.

Aguero
Sterling
Kompany
Fernandinho
David Silva
De Bruyne

All these players were world class, were in a semifinal of CL before Pep arrived and they won PL title.

Who did Mourinho inherit from LVG? Schneiderlin, Young, Valencia, Jones and Smalling. How do you even begin to compare the two projects?

Mourinho had a more difficult rebuilding work to do than Pep.

KingAlabi:
Either you do that

Or

Shvt up about what I was doing when Roma scored, has minding your business become time consuming?

You quoted me first, dummy!

I was minding my business when you came to ask me how far. If I don’t live in your head rent free, you should be celebrating this win with your girlfriend.

However, you must look for my attention - it’s your favorite past time. Your day isn’t made if you don’t check for me. Your impotency is the only reason I am not screaming gäy alert yet.

Now get the fück out of my sight, impudent swine!

CapitalCee:
In this context i prefer 6-2 sha. The tie is not close. I just needed a win. Roma cant win us at Stadio Olympico if we are full strength and serious.

Roma could stuff Ole 4-0 in Rome.

It’s Ole we are talking about here, not SAF.

Ole needed to beat 2 relegated teams to make top 4 and he didn’t win any of the games.

CapitalCee:
Villareal is not the kind of team that you can easily come from behind against. We better get out act well. However, Arsenal is not out yet oo

It could yet be Arteta vs Ole in the final.

Battle of the PE teachers.

KingAlabi:
You have a phone and data, don't be a liability!!

So you expect me to be looking for your response to Oasis on a thread because you are?

This Alabi nuisance really overrates himself.

KingAlabi:
Cry some more

I will reference this comment when the time comes.

CapitalCee:
Which kain calm down, this Roma team is rubbish, being flogged by the likes of Cagliari and co. Play that kind of first versus a decent team and there wont be a way back.

Just leave them.

Olesexuals never learn.

I’d rather 4-0 than 6-2.

KingAlabi:
Please read my response to oasis007 and don't be a dunce, thanks.

Where’s your response?

Expert17:
How far?

Cc Illimitable

Don’t mind him.

All of them want to start acting like the result was never in doubt. Alabi that was in the toilet shitting his guts out when Roma got the second goal.

KingAlabi:
How far?

How far with what?

I was the only one that defended Ole’s line up and even said taking McFred out at half time would be disastrous.

You can check the files if you are confused.

eph12:
The scores was just 1:2 at that time. No pressure

2 away goals is no pressure?

eph12:
We really need to learn to be calming down

2 away goals was alarming. This is a KO game where away goals count.

Calm or not calm, United shouldn’t be conceding 2 away goals against Roma.

Odunharry:
Omo I don't think there's any player currently who have good movement than Cavani..

He’s used movement to destroy Smalling.

Smalling doesn’t even know where and how to track him.

Dzeko
Cavani
Zlatan
Ronaldo

Pensioners better than most young strikers.