European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:02pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
elampiro: Luke Shaw's confidence is 1000%
James starting the game was the reason we could not create meaningful chances. You mean James selected himself?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:59pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This is Neuer in Euros
With this evidence, I now expect you to run away as usual You said you spent “over 30M” on Neuer. How’s €28m over €30M. Transfermarkt is even wrong on the values quoted. Neuer was €18m.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:53pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This was where I got 30M from the same source provided DDG transfer fee So dollars is the European currency now? Fraud! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:50pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
olabode89: Lmao! caught red handed  That nigga thought he could lie his way out. Above market rate  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:48pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Sterling and Aguero came in after the hour
When Pep faced United in the league he rolled out the real first 11, Mourinho stood no chance. They were properly beaten. The Carling cup was time to roll out the Maffeo, Alex Garcia, Cabalero, Fernando, Iheanacho and Navas
Only Mourinho sees a rivalry with Pep, Pep sees nothing more than a whipping boy just another Allardyce
Pep will rather fear Klopps team as seen on the Amazon documentary than anything Mourinho rolls out Until he ran away from Spain after Mourinho sent him to a sanatorium in New York. Pep’s only nemesis is Mourinho. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:47pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Neuer was sold to Bayern at over 30M in 2011, How many keepers in the EPL around 2011 went for 30M Bayern bought hummels for 35M with a year left on his contract
What will be the equivalent of Man Utd buying RvP, Matic and Juan Mata
If you are expecting Bayern to step down to the level of Stuttgart just to have competition then we will have to dissapoint you Neuer was €18m in 2011, De Gea was costlier in the same window. Where did you get €30m from?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:40pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: The revisionism in this post is laughable.
Below was the lineup for that game that "No one expected Mourinho to win"
Only a Miracle could have made a team of Pogba Zlatan Mata DeGea Shaw et beat a team of Iheanacho, Maffeo, Alex Garcia and Jesus Navas and Fernando Your selective amnesia forgot Sterling and Aguero came on later in the game and they couldn’t steer the game towards a City victory. Pep was confident the team he rolled out was good enough to beat United. There’s no friendly whenever Mourinho faced Pep. They want to win the game no matter how insignificant the competition is. So try again. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:37pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Neuer and Hummels were sold to Bayern at above-market rates for their position and length of the contract
Bayern bought Kimmich from Stuttgart in division 2 just like Man utd bought Daniel James to hamper Swansea Bayern bought Sule from Hoffenheim just like Man Utd bought Shaw from Southampton to hamper them Lewandowski came to Bayern on a free transfer after his contract expired Sold at above-market rates? What does that mean? There was a scarcity of clubs abroad to sell those players to? This is the equivalent of Man City buying De Gea in 2018 or United buying Kompany in 2012. I wonder how Bayern supporters feel about the lack of competition in that league. The shittiest league in Europe. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:28pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Yes its Bayerns 9th succesive title
Bayern is the richest team in the league and money is directly related to results. When you have teams who can match Bayerns finances you will see competition There are no recognized competitors for a long time because they do not have Bayerns money Other teams in the league have money problems which Bayern does not have
If you are wondering how Bayern got so rich, its also in that video In other words, Bundesliga is a shit league. It’s not ONLY because the other clubs aren’t as rich as Bayern, it’s also because the other clubs don’t even understand they shouldn’t be selling their best players to Bayern. Bayern went to the other clubs to get Neuer, Hummels, Gotze, Lewandowski, Kimmich, Sule, etc. Bayern constantly hamper the Bundesliga and give the other clubs no chance of competing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:22pm On Apr 25, 2021 |
Android17: Going by your argument, Benitez also used fringe players to play Chelsea so like I said, Mourinho did not win any Carling Cup that he was not far and away the favorite to win. The revisionism in this post is laughable. Carling Cup finals are played earlier. No one plays fringe players in February with 1/3 of the season left to complete. The idea that Mourinho was expected to win all those carling cup trophies is also flawed. In 2005, he beat Alex Ferguson over 2 legs in the semifinal before beating Benitez in the final. How is he expected to win those feisty games? In 2015, he also beat Klopp’s Liverpool over 2 legs in the semis before facing Spurs. How’s he favorites to win those when Klopp was his nemesis even as a Madrid manager. In 2017, he clobbered Pep in the round of 16 in a one off game that no one expected him to win considering Pep had beaten him in a league game at Old Trafford. |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:04pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Nezzjnr: He's already making excuses for his failure.
I say we should better get a good coach before the likes of Bayern get hold of someone that's right for the Job Imagine Hansi Flick or Koeman saying winning a trophy isn’t a measure of progress in Bayern or Barcelona. They would have been sacked immediately for lowering the standards. It can only happen at United - where the standards are already below the sea level. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:58pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Nezzjnr: Ole doesn't even have any excuse if he doesn't win the UEL.
Topping your group in UCL... You only had a simple job to do to cement your place in R16 but Amaka Goofed.... Here we are rubbing shoulders with Teams like Arsenal and Granada He has already dropped the excuse.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:47pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
hoopLA: The OleInners better pray Pep doesn't brain fart the selection like ge did last weekend.
Otherwise it'll be a shame to our perennial Semi Final Lord if a man coaching just his second game ends up with a trophy.
And I'm praying to Jah that he can navigate past Roma.
Shebi na Semi Final? Ole is a failure - it’s in his genes. He’s bottled 5 semifinals in 2 years. Alex Ferguson lost only 4 semifinals throughout his 26 year reign at Old Trafford. It doesn’t matter if you put Wikki Tourists or Lobi Stars in the semifinals, Ole must find a way to lose it. That foolish manager actually said winning trophies does not indicate progress. SMH. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:40pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:36pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
KingAlabi: But masterclass was sacked, cry me a river.  Masterclass has 25 trophies. At 48, Masterclass had won 2 CL titles and 6 league titles. Your god of failure is yet to navigate a semifinal berth at age 48. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:40pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
KingAlabi: If you read the biesla statement well sef, he wasn't really praising the team, like saying they are one of the best in the league or have amazing talents, he just said they play simple football, it is a kind of jibe-praise hybrid. The simple football that has lost 5 semifinals. The 6th is soon to follow. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:31pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
Android17: Has not lost a Carling Cup final against Liverpool (5th in the league), Arsenal Under 21s, Tottenham and Southampton. Lost an FA Cup final to Conte most recent of all. I don't need reasons as to why he was fired, the Tottenham execs gave the only one that matters. That Tottenham could have beat City in the final is still binding even with Ryan Mason at the helms. Mourinho might have a better resumé but that is about where it stops. If you were wondering, Tottenham were definitely catching a gigantic L in that final with Mourinho. The Slavia Prague, United and Everton games were predictive of where the team was with him and the answer is DISTRUSTED. That is, majority of his players did not trust him anymore. The “5th in the league” Liverpool won the Champions league that same season by beating Mourinho’s Chelsea in the semifinal. You people often forget that many managers rest players for the priority competition at the expense of the league position. Benitez concentrated his effort on the CL and played fringe players in the league. His final league position proved to be irrelevant as Liverpool qualified automatically for the next CL by the virtue of winning it. Mourinho used the same strategy in 16/17 when he gave up on the league games and concentrated fully on Europa games. He took a very weak 11 to Tottenham and Arsenal to preserve the big players for Europa. He won it and United finished 6th. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:26pm On Apr 24, 2021 |
BARAJ92: This argument is dead on arrival, If Pep was not a great coach why was Pep, Ferguson first choice. Mourinho and Pep are the two highest spender on players for the past 10 years. Because Mourinho was tied in a contract with Real Madrid. Pep had just ran away from La Liga after Mourinho psychologically destroyed him with 100 points and 121 league goals. In the two seasons Pep & Mourinho were together in La Liga, Mourinho’s team outscored Pep’s. The second season was the last straw for Pep and he gave up competing - which was why he was the #1 option as he had no job in the horizon. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:51pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
elampiro: Are you now a member of the inner circle? :  You will be surprised at the sordid details I know about top clubs. How they create a mess and then try to clean it up to avoid accountability. That is a story for another day. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:23pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
elampiro: Source That was the gist from the inner circles - you won’t find it on the mainstream media considering the debacle that followed Moyes’ signing. SAF has cleaned up his ass that Pep never got back to him - but the truth is they spoke continuously for 8 months when Pep ran to New York for his sabbatical. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:33pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
elampiro: I am not sure you were a fan of Kante while in Leicester. Someone like you would have dismissed him as a headless chicken running all around the field. I was a fan of Kante in 2014/15 for his durability and the fact that he made the most ball recoveries in all the top 5 leagues in Europe. elampiro: SAF wanted Guadiola and even went to see him in the US in 2012, but he told SAF he had already had somewhere he was going (Bayern Munich) That’s not true. Pep turned down SAF’s offer because SAF couldn’t guarantee the Glazers can fund Pep’s multi-million pound projects. Signing Pep isn’t cheap - he wants the best players in every position and for all the talks before his arrival that he’s best developer of youth in Europe, he’s only promoted Foden in his 5 seasons at City. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:32pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
elampiro: Sir Alex Ferguson : “Scott McTominay is now emerging as one of Manchester United's big players. When you watch Manchester United pick a team for a big game, McTominay is in it. Good character, great trainer, I know a little bit about the boy.”
Sir Alex Ferguson: “I signed him [McTominay] when he was seven or eight. He was actually a centre-forward as a kid. He has sprouted, a little bit like Darren [Fletcher] when he first came.”
Sir Alex Ferguson: “McTominay is a similar type as Darren [Fletcher], long, lanky, good winner of the ball, good turn of pace going forward, great attitude to the game.”
Sir Alex Ferguson: “All the attributes that Darren [Fletcher] had, McTominay has got them. We seldom left Darren out for big games, particularly against Arsenal, he had no problems dealing with Patrick Vieira, and McTominay is following those guidelines.”
Sir Alex Ferguson: “It’s really rewarding for me to see a Scott [McTominay] coming through.” Scottish Nepotism. This was exactly how he gave us Moyes and we saw how that panned out. SAF can’t be taken seriously. It’s a disgrace that other clubs can boast of Kroos, Modric, Verratti, Gundogan, Pjanic, Kimmich, Kante, etc and the equivalent in arguably Europe’s richest club is McTominay. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:11pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
TrebleChamp: Dis one wey SAF dey talk up McTominay like this, una sure say Ole good gree buy a good talented holding/defensive midfielder so.... As long as they buy an elite CB, RW and ST. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:55pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
KingAlabi: Leave talk jare 
Hope you are doing alright  I have never been better. In tip-top shape. What about you? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:46pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
KingAlabi: Illimitable is still crying as at now  Hahahahaha I like that I live in your head rent free. Out of the 8 mentions I had since Tuesday, you mentioned me 6 times.  If you weren’t born impotent, I would have said you are gay.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:36pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
Android17: What team would have beaten him in the years described? You know the severance package is amortized right? He does not get the money in one tranche. He will be paid for the next few years. Sacking him before the Carabao cup was the acceptance by Levy that it would have not mattered if he won it and that they did not believe he could win it. Which team would have beaten him in the years described? The Liverpool team he beat in 2005 Carling Cup final went on to disgrace AC Milan in the CL-final & they won it. The same team ousted Mourinho’s team in the semis with the ghost goal at Anfield. The ball never crossed the line but Luis Garcia wheeled away in celebration and conned the referee. In 2017, Mourinho beat Pep’s City on his way to win the competition. A lot of people forget about this detail because they only focus on which teams he faced in the final. Sacking him before the cup final can be explained in many ways. One of them would be the severance package would be more had Mourinho won a cup for Spurs - so Levy quickly truncated the process and sacrificed the cup for millions of pounds sterling. It would be stupid of Levy to think Mourinho couldn’t have won it considering he’s never lost a Carling cup final in England. He’s got 100% win percentage in that particular competition. There’s also a hidden trivia that Mourinho is the only manager on the planet that has ever beaten Pep Guardiola in a final. These two pointers are stacked behind Mourinho and I am sure Levy knew this. Levy was expecting ESL money and he was happy to sack Mourinho thinking JP Morgan Chase would wire some stacks to him. In the end, he lost the best manager on the planet, he lost whatever amount he paid Mourinho for sacking him and the ESL money is not coming. Levy must pay £8m to Florentino Perez for breaching the contract he signed when he joined ESL. Levy’s loss. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:55pm On Apr 19, 2021*. Modified: 3:22pm On Apr 23, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:50pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:47pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
BARAJ92: Accepted he won two trophies yet he took the squad backward.
LVG won the FA cup, yet he was sacked. Being in the champions league or top 4 is far superior to any FA cup or Carling cup. Winning the league or champions league is superior to the Europa League. The management of Man Utd prioritiy are UEFA champions league, League Title, Top 4 or Europa League title not worthless titles. Pep already said winning a trophy is the most important factor in clubs - not your opinion. You cannot keep making excuses for Ole or moving the goalposts because he cannot attain the minimum requirement. The fact that Mourinho got into a final before Ole in a club that he met at 14th should tell you the PE teacher personifies failure. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:45pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
Joezinho: Ole Gollum is cursed.
Kane has been the best managed player and the most professional under Mou.. Dude handled his new role in the absence of an attacking midfielder brilliantly.
He is a goal poacher but being top scorer and leading assists at the same time comes down to clever management.. Of course, he’s cursed and it seems that the curse has been passed to people like Alabi and his minions. People who celebrate failure are most likely to be failure as well.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:42pm On Apr 19, 2021 |
KingAlabi: So the PE teacher got more points than the best manager to have ever lived ??  PE teacher:- has been in the job for 3 years(not 18 months) has spent more money has more quality players inherited the team at 6th(not 14th) A centipede has more brain power than you do. |