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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 9:52pm On Mar 05, 2010
bgees:
Looks like Johnson would be available for the Wigan match.
with Agger and Skrtel out, i'm starting to worry. Carra and Soto are good but they are relatively slow compared to Skrtel and Agger. We might have problems at Wigan and Man utd.
and lets hope Torres remains fit till the end of the season.
I also wonder why Aquilani is not getting games. WALK ON!!
Aq's prob the biggest flop of the season, we would have gotten at least 2 descent strikers in a depressed market for the 2o million,we got from him.

Imagine our own Ikechukwu & Moh'd Zidan of Egypt filling in for Torres at this time cry cry
TravelRe: Need Help With Direction by illusion2: 9:49pm On Mar 05, 2010
honeric01:
thanks, anyways do you know the direction to kwakwa suka village in old bendel state? undecided
And you say u no be JJC undecided

Which one be Bendel state again ??

Okay sorry. . .u be old school tongue
TravelRe: Need Help With Direction by illusion2: 7:39pm On Mar 05, 2010
honeric01:
thanks guys, boarded a bike to oshodi, bus to mushin, bus to stadium and bike to my destination, simple, no hold up (bike took care of the traffic), thanks dudes
All is well that ends well wink
TravelRe: Need Help With Direction by illusion2: 9:46pm On Mar 04, 2010
honeric01:
i might be a jjc entering public transport, but not a jjc being a lagosian, i know almost close to 90% of Lagos, i only wanted the best route to Masha within the stipulated timeframe.
Anyways, thanks. cool
You be 'omo butta' be dat na. undecided

I beg no enta 'one chance ' o ! cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Ethnic Politics In The Uk by illusion2(op): 9:44pm On Mar 04, 2010
MandingoII:
how come the Black people in the UK are so passive?
I know there is black people in the UK but we here in the United States do not SEE them or HEAR about them.
What's up with that?
I think its cos of Blacks percentage of the total population in the US is much higher (around 15%) & sugnificant than in the UK (less than 7%).

And (in my own opinion),almost all americans are ultimately settlers (including whites),unlike in the UK where the whites are 'indigenous' to the area.

agathamari:
sorry i go by genetic markers encoded in the DNA (watch human family tree you can find it on national geographics website) not 2,000 year old religios texts
This makes use of yet to be fully ascertained carbon dating my dear. I'll stick with the Bible story for now. . .thank you wink
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Whats Wayne Bridge's Problem? by illusion2(op): 3:53pm On Mar 04, 2010
BlueDiva:
Most of you kids don't know what it means to have a kid for someone.
Little wonder the callous remarks.
undecided
TravelRe: Need Help With Direction by illusion2: 3:15pm On Mar 04, 2010
honeric01:
Thanks everyone, i hope to find Ojuelegba from where you've all suggested, but is there no ojuelegba at oshodi?
You be JJC ? undecided

You can get ANYWHERE from Oshodi even USA sef grin !
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs Congo [5 - 2] (Friendly Match) by illusion2: 2:55pm On Mar 04, 2010
MRbrownJAY:
yesterdays friendlies:
Argentina has stepped up their games, 9ja better follow suit?!
France was poor, need to step up their game BIG TIME but there is still some hope before the WC!!!!!
South Africa confirmed that they are way over their head on this one.
Italy wont win that world cup for sure as Cameroon show them that they meant BUSINESS
[s]Ghana lost against a strong team so there is hope too.[/s]Ivory Coast poor poor poor but hey Korea is a strong team and 9ja better watch out for them .
SPAIN, ENGLAND, HOLLAND showed they mean business!!!!
Except your Ghana analysis,every other thing was spot on. Bosnia isn't a 'strong team' in the mould of Brazil,Spain etc

I watched the whole game,Ghana was poor(prob trying new players) & the pitch was absolutely horrendous !
TravelRe: Need Help With Direction by illusion2: 2:51pm On Mar 04, 2010
I know I left Lagos some time ago,but why would you have to go to oshodi-oke-orile ? undecided

Take Ojuelegba(from Egbeda,Dopemu or New road) and do the rest as advised.

If you find yourself in Oshodi,just link up Ojuelegba from there via Agege motor road/Muhsin wink
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs Congo [5 - 2] (Friendly Match) by illusion2: 12:15pm On Mar 04, 2010
Does any one know where can I get the clips ? huh
IslamRe: Interesting View Of The Taliban by illusion2(op): 6:42am On Mar 04, 2010
chakula:
Nothing display.
How? Just click & watch undecided


Part 2

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IslamInteresting View Of The Taliban by illusion2(op): 3:50pm On Mar 03, 2010
This is really interesting & challenges our stereotyping of muslims

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Whats Wayne Bridge's Problem? by illusion2(op): 3:17pm On Mar 03, 2010
eldee:
No one would care if he weren't successful, Jermaine Defoe shagged Dareen Bent's girlfriend a couple of years ago, no one gave two f[i]u[/i]cks
Marcus Bent not Darren. . .& she wasn't necessarily his(Marcus') gf,she was available for every one lipsrsealed
RomanceRe: I Don’t Feel Like Sleeping With My New Husband! by illusion2: 2:05pm On Mar 03, 2010
They'd probably done it too much while dating. . . , . good lesson for all unmarried peeps ,I guess sad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Whats Wayne Bridge's Problem? by illusion2(op): 7:47am On Mar 02, 2010
^^ True dat !

Gaggi:
@Mr Tudor,
That female u put don't fool us. U're a bloody guy!. You think making nasty remarks all over the forum is cool?. Agbaya olodo. If u dont have anything logical to say go commit suicide. i feel disgusted anytime u write. This bloody he-goat posing as a woman.
lol !
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 7:45am On Mar 02, 2010
Now back to more mature issues  (its long. ,   .take your time )
davidylan:
lol what "christian love" have you or anyone shown the jews? You people live in an world of pure fantasy (or illusion if you like). Do you know that the anti-semitic and false "protocols of the elders of Zion" came from Russia (a nation with christian roots)? Do you know that while Germany was gassing the jews the rest of the so-called christian world INCLUDING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH sat by and watched?
My point on the hatred of Jews by  European ‘Christians’ has been clearly stated in my prev post.  No need to dwell on that. I was speaking for myself.

One thing I have noticed about you David, is you expend so much energy on revisionist HISTORY. While the historical antecedents of any situation are important, they aren’t the only factor to be considered.

Most of what you are stating has no bearing on the current situation of things in the ME.

I like using the current state of affairs in Nigeria for example, we have serious issues with the way we are structured, will bringing up  the Jihad of Usman Dan Fodio have any bearing on the current political discourse ?

Yes , the PLO has antecedents, but Yasser Arafat’s legacy is as relevant to the current Israeli-Palestinian situation as  Nairaland is (not very relevant). The PLO has moved on, the world’s view has moved on, the overwhelming Arab view has equally moved on.
So let’s stay CURRENT & not continue to quote irrelevant historical accidents.

davidylan:
Do you know EVEN THE US was nowhere to be found when Israel declared itself a state in 1948 and had to fight off 6 Arab nations (aided only by the secular France)?
Going back memory lane however, I am shocked to read this statement. US president Harry Truman, was the first World leader to recognize the UNILATERALLY DECLARED state of Israel

The position of  first prime Minister was offered (& rejected) buy renowned scientist Einstein (a US citizen  at the time).
You also need to realize that this was the twilight of the British Empire (the colonial power in the region) and the beginning of US military domination. But to say there wasn’t any tacit US support wouldn’t be entirely accurate.(Fighter pilot Chalmers Goodlin for instance)
As stated above, most of these things albeit very important, have little bearing on the current state of affairs in the region.

davidylan:
1. Pre-1967 there was NO PEACE with Israel . . . what borders were the bone of contention then? Pre-1948 existence?
2. The lands in contention belonged to Egypt and Jordan not any rebel HAMAS or FATAH groups. Since those countries have largely REFUSED to take back their lands (to perpetuate the "palestinian crisis" with the eventual goal of destroying Israel), who shld Israel negotiate with?
Oh and prior to 1967 here is what FATAH had to say about those same lands they now claim is the impediment to "peace" . . .
Now I’m beginning to question your understanding of your history of the Area.
Pre-1967 means land Israel captured during the 6 day war, some of which on the W/bank side they are now building settlements on.
They have returned the Sinai to Egypt (note Sinai is a Hebrew name tongue),I think they should keep the Golan for security reasons, but the other Arab lands should be returned.

Arabs are Arabs wherever they are. As stated earlier the countries as we know it today were carved out by colonial powers. Jordan, Egypt, Israel etc.

So saying  ‘a land is Egyptian land’ may not be entirely accurate. The fact is Arabs screwed fellow Arabs. The Egyptians simply took Sinai & abandoned Gaza, while Jordan (Formerly Trans Jordan) did the same with the West bank Arabs.

That is the pathetic situation the Palestinians have found themselves (no man’s land), hence the irrelevance of the history you keep referring to.
I have said it before my solution to the whole imbroglio is that Egypt should incorporate Gaza into its borders , while Jordan takes on the west bank & Jerusalem becomes a UN administered city according to the initial UN resolution 181 of 1947.

davidylan:
Its quite RELEVANT . . . the only reason you blind folks dont want to see again is because it completely destroys the narrative you all so want to push. It is obvious and historically correct that the idea of an arab as a "palestinian" DID NOT EXIST prior to 1967 and is an invention of Arafat (himself an Egyptian national who was ejected from Jordan in 1973) . . .
I’m not blind, again lets be courteous. . . absolutely no need for insults !  I still insist the name they are called is irrelevant. Arabs, Palestinians, Egyptians , tranjordanians, fatah, hamas is not relevant. What they need is a country to call theirs.

davidylan:
Beyond the usual "pray for Israel" . . . what political clout does the evangelical movement in the US have to concretely support Israel? So the evangelical movement here is the one arming and defending Israel?
I think i understand what you TRULY mean to say . . . it is what we have heard from arabs and muslims the world over - the US support of Israel is the ONLY REASON arabs are afraid to attack and ultimately destroy Israel.
they tried in 1948, 1967 and 1973.
but they dont have diplomatic relations with Israel allegedly BECAUSE of the "palestinians" eh?
US support isn’t the only reason. Israel has the largest per capita military in the world, almost 30% of its population. They are the only nuclear power in the region. They have defeated repeatedly Arab aggression add to that the ruthless assassination of militants.

In addition the have made peace with Egypt & Jordan. . . . .so attacking them isn’t really an option at the moment. . . again CURRENT SITUTION please.

Saudi & co have underground relationship with Israel, they can’t come out cos  as I said in my prev post, most fear the militants. . . the assassinations  of King Abdullah of Jordan ,Anwar Sadat of Egypt are  pointers  to this.

So once there is comprehensive peace, the  Arabs (or Palestinians,fatah,hamas) have a country they can call their own. . . things will begin to happen.

Will we still have mad men like –Osama Bin Hiding-  absolutely (mind you he wants to kill all the members of the saudi royal family as well) !!
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 6:42am On Mar 02, 2010
Mariory:
I'm not sure if it's actually possible to be as dense as this but, then again you learn something new everyday. So I'm going to assume you really are that slow. Bear with me as I try to outline it as simply as humanly possible.

Now let's try again. Read Hamas's charter again slowly. Please stop bringing the Taliban or Al-Qaeda into this. They have absolutely nothing to do with this. Remember take it slowly, no rush. You can do it.
You ARE actually that dense,one reason I avoid discussing serious issues with poorly educated juveniles on NL is just because of this.

Apart from your poor command of the english language,you can't complete a sentence w/out insulting your elders.  undecided

My advice to you is simple,& I'll tell you this one time- stay of the drugs  cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 9:34pm On Mar 01, 2010
davidylan:
This is absolutely untrue, that much is clear to anyone with an unbiased view of this intractable problem. Jordan was created for the Sheikhs of Mecca and sits on over 75% of the land "palestinians" claim to be fighting for. Its absurd that "palestinians" are only whinning about the less than 18% of land Israel is sitting on.
Biased ke ? Bro david, like I said,I’m a Christian,but  I now reason in a similar way to Jairzinho. The state of Israel has taken our Christian love for granted for too long.

Now on the ‘absolutely untrue’ statement, you have stated yourself  “Jordan was created for the Sheikhs of Mecca”. . . . by whom?
Who created modern day Iraq ,Bahrain, Israel, Egypt,Nigeria,USA?. . . .the list goes on !

They were created politically either after military campaigns or colonial fiat. So my assertions ARE TRUE !

The fact is,most Palestinians are no longer arguing about the continued existence of Israel,as a matter of fact everyone has pretty much resigned themselves to the fact that Israel has come to stay. . . but on PRE-1967 BORDERS. Let Israel return to the borders it was given when it was CREATED just like everyone else . . . simple !

davidylan:
Besides . . . have you wondered why arabs are fighting for places such as Jerusalem, Nazareth, Capernaum, Bethlehem which have UNMISTAKEABLY JEWISH NAMES AND HISTORIES?
Have you wondered why prior to 1948 . . . the term "palestinian" refered to Jews and NOT Arabs?
Due to colonial activities some Yoruba people  now fall under Benin republic, should Nigeria now insist those parts they (yorubas) are now (that formed part of the old Oyo empire) must be returned?

We cannot continually write & re-write history. The most recent globally agreed borders are pre-1967,on that most (certainly not all) arabs & friends of the middle East peace stand !

And please leave all these your  ‘pre 1948 palestinian referred to jews not arab’. . . .you’ve posted it so many times ,its really stale (& irrelevant) now.
KADIMA –FORWARD !

davidylan:
There is a clear difference. Majority of European nations are "christian" but in no way support the Jewish state. If the jews got the exact same support from christians as the arabs get from muslims . . . arab "palestinians" would long have ceased to exist.
I like the ‘christian’ in inverted commas. Europe has Christian origins true. But the Europeans fried 6 million of them(Jews) . . .remember.
Read about the history of Judaism in Europe, one of my favourite Shakesparean tales is Merchant of Venice – a must read.
So Europeans have not really liked Jews.

Having said that we know militant Islam (aka Wahabism) has been at the fore of islam lately,its just recently the more reasonable ones are beginning to find their voices.
The Christian support for Israel comes from the evangelical movement in the US & this accounts for  a lot !

davidylan:
This is clearly a spiritual fight to destroy the jews . . . ask yourself why palestinians born in Lebanon are deprived of any rights EVEN THOUGH ARABS RATHER WHINE at Israel. Ditto for Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Iran e.t.c.
There no spiritual nothing  ! Jews don’t EVEN BELIEVE IN THE MESSIAH - JESUS CHRIST !
Jesus is known as Al Masih (the Messiah ) in the Koran, tho’ they (muslims) via caliph Usman  have corrupted their book to now water this down.

So  don’t fall for these spiritual conspiracy theories.

No nation can wipe away Israel.

The arabs themselves have their own problems like you have highlighted. Shia vs Sunni , Saudis hate Syrians ,Lebanon is a keg of gunpowder waiting to explode, they all hate Palestinians etc. So that’s why I insist the prob is much more complicated than just one of religious belief.

Once Israel sorts the Palestinian issue ,there’ll be no unifying cause again ,I can assure you.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 7:33pm On Mar 01, 2010
davidylan:
The arab problem with Israel is purely religious. Evidence is in the blind support muslims in every part of the world and from every race give to arabs against the jews.
The problem is indeed political/ethnic and has colonial connotations just as we have here in Naija with the amalgamation of North & South ,which is still causing disaffection till this present time. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .individuals based on their level of brainwashing experience make it religious.

The 'blind support' read brainwashed muslims give the arabs is almost equal to the blind support(lipsrsealed lipsrsealed), we christians give to the jews/Israel.

Tho' muslims tend to take their own  in their balls apologies to Muttalab  cheesy cheesy cheesy


davidylan:
Most of them have already emigrated due to persecution from fellow muslim "palestinians" . . . see bethlehem for example.
I think this is the chicken or the egg story (which came first) all over again. . . is the muslim persecution of christians a result of Zionist policies or it existed before?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 12:12pm On Mar 01, 2010
Thank God we scaled through that !

This battle for 4th place na wa !

I wish our useless yakubu had gotten a 2nd or 3rd goal against spurs,the table would have been slighly different.

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PoliticsRe: Dora Akunyili Tells All! by illusion2: 12:10pm On Mar 01, 2010
Cynicism at its worst.  sad

If you have no better suggestion on how we can get our dear country out of this quagmire-STFU !  angry

If Lt Gen Dambazu had taken over the country on Wednesday night with 'Fellow Nigerians. . . . . .' the same cynical a@seh**es would say the politicians were just 'chopping'.  cry

What can one ever do to elicit support from Nigerians?  undecided

By the way kudos to Dora. . . . . . .a woman with BALLS !  wink
Foreign AffairsRe: Ethnic Politics In The Uk by illusion2(op): 12:02pm On Mar 01, 2010
agathamari:
actualy you had the gael (from what is now spain) and the celts (netherland area) both originated in what is now turkey (where they split from the groups migrating into asia) prior to that from central/southern africa. if you realy want to technical that is tongue
Provide proof of this please ? smiley

But if indeed you want to go back really far,you very well know the Garden of Eden was geographically located somewhere in the persian Gulf area. (between present day Iraq & Iran) . . . . . . , so your central/southen Africa progenitor of them Gaels & Celts most likely migrated from there tongue tongue tongue tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 8:46am On Mar 01, 2010
Mariory:
What the hell has Al Qaeda/Taliban got to do with this? You really should follow your on adviseadvice before you try to speak on things you know so little about. The guy was a senior commander in Hamas.

[I]'[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement, Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam, There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.' [/I]- Article 13, Hamas Charter (The convenant of Hamas)

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'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.' [/I]- Article 7, Hamas Charter (The convenent of Hamas)

Epic grin @ "palestinian freedom fighters". What a joke.
Hamas is only one aspect of the equation & if you had taken time to read through the entire thread (thats if you can read English well enough),you'd have learnt that 20% of Palestinians are CHRISTIANS !!!

Its a POLITICAL problem & less of religious. ALQAEDA/TALIBAN on the other hand are RELIGIOUS fighters.

I deliberately CAPPED those words you may have difficulty with tongue .
PoliticsRe: A President's Medical Report by illusion2(op): 8:32am On Mar 01, 2010
^^^ Really sad indeed cry
PoliticsRe: A President's Medical Report by illusion2(op): 7:03pm On Feb 28, 2010
^^^^^Its probably because the masses don't matter ? cry
PoliticsA President's Medical Report by illusion2(op): 6:59pm On Feb 28, 2010
This is how it should be done,not the hanky panky Turai moves. . . . .

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President Obama is 'fit for duty,' a Navy physician reported Sunday after Obama's first presidential checkup.
Washington (CNN) - President Obama got a checkup Sunday, and his doctor liked what he found.

"The president is in excellent health and 'fit for duty,'" Dr. Jeff Kuhlman, a Navy captain and physician to the president wrote in his report. "All clinical data indicate that he will remain so for the duration of his presidency."

The doctor did recommend Obama change his eating habits a bit. "Recommend dietary modification to reduce LDL cholesterol below 130," Kuhlman wrote. The report lists Obama's LDL level at 138. LDL, or low-density lipoprotein, is what's known as "bad" cholesterol, according to the American Heart Association.

Kuhlman noted that the 48-year-old president should keep up his efforts to stop smoking. Obama's medications include nicotine replacement therapy.

The 6-foot-1-inch president weighed in at 179.9 pounds with his shoes and workout attire on.

His body mass index (BMI) is 23.7. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, that's in the upper end of the "normal" weight range. "Overweight" begins at 25.0.

The White House said Obama's doctor recommended his next physical take place in August of next year, when the president turns 50.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/28/presidents-doc-excellent-health-cut-the-cholesterol/?fbid=A-l27QtWCgr#more-92313
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 6:32pm On Feb 28, 2010
Mariory:
Imagine if the people this man ruthlessly assasinated was your family.

Allbeit, this kind of death is what this guy really wanted. Now he is enjoying his reward with mohamed in the bosom of allah. Everybody wins (except the 72 virgins the dirty fuuker is going to poke). grin grin
There's a clear difference between palestinian freedom fighters and Al Qaeda/Taliban (the virgin lovers). research & get your facts straight.

The man assasinated has more in common with Mandela than Osama Bin Hiding. tongue
PoliticsRe: Dora Akunyili Tells All! by illusion2: 6:30pm On Feb 28, 2010
doyin13:
I don't get you guys seriously.

If they do not talk, you say they are complicit
now they are talking and you say its a bit much.

She is the only one putting the orchestrators of this
charade under any kind of pressure, and at great risk
to her life.

Please, provide support and stop playing chicken.
well said. Nigerians can be so,so cynical. None of the noisemakers posting here can risk their life for any cause,yet you keep insulting people who put theirs on the line. . . na wa !
Foreign AffairsRe: Ethnic Politics In The Uk by illusion2(op): 6:27pm On Feb 28, 2010
agathamari:
i think you ment ethnicities, either way try again. irish and german only an i can tell you the percentages. most whites are a mix of under 3 ethnicities (i suggest you ask around) obamas mother was irish, she isnt a native american. as for royals in europe, they are nearly all related sad to say. they had a habit of marring children off as part of treaties
Well if you want to go that far,the Irish actually originated from the Gael people of pre-Medieval europe( some 9,000 years ago ) tongue
Foreign AffairsRe: The Mossad Does It Again. by illusion2: 10:08am On Feb 28, 2010
Mariory:
Go Mossad! Another one delivered to Mohamed and accompanying 70 virgins for the eternal "@rgy". grin grin grin
Imagine if this man that was ruthlessly assasinated was your father/brother. Lets stop the killing & start talking.
Christianity EtcRe: His Name Is Jah - Meeting Place For All Rastafarians by illusion2(op): 10:06am On Feb 28, 2010
Horus:
Who are you worshiping?, Jah or the Ganja? grin
Worship JAH with ganja mahn !. . . One love !

Kgdavid:
okay why don't you give us a detailed break down of your religion
Check oout more info on this here & here mahn !

I and I bless you my friend ! wink

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