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Christianity EtcRe: Please Dont Watch Bad Romance By Lady Gaga At Night by illusion2: 3:59pm On Feb 03, 2010
[quote author=Tudór link=topic=390266.msg5431666#msg5431666 date=1265106987]holy molly!!

I am female and whether you rant from now till nex year it won't change my gender.

By the way, why does my gender bother people so much. huh huh[/quote]Cos your arguments are a shade too fiesty for a female tongue. . .add to that the fact that you keep switching from male to female every blue moon cool
PoliticsRe: Nuzo For House Of Representatives 2011. The Revolution. by illusion2: 3:45pm On Feb 03, 2010
Hey. . . . lets encourage a fellow nairalander,afterall,i'm sure less than 1% of us have anything to do with his constituency.

nuzo:
My disposition? Thats exactly is what motivated our present federal legislator to offer free 3 months computer training to all youths in Ohaukwu/Ebonyi federal constituency. Had the movement kept quiet like you are suggesting, she will complete her 4 years tenure next year without doing anything for the people.
Meanwhile Hon. nuzo,please note a legislators primary responsibility is to MAKE LAWS not build or 'do' things. Thats what we have the Executive arm for.

However ,if you're talking about constituency projects,these are meant to be targetted in nature & you  should investigate ,if any such projects were approved by the NASS,other than that ,she basically spending her salary on these projects,which we shouldn't encourage.
PoliticsRe: England Is 'cesspit' Breeding Islamists, Says Soyinka by illusion2: 10:22am On Feb 03, 2010
The problem with England apart from their own colonial arrogance,is that they have little or no clearly defined belief system as an alternative to fundamentalism.

The French have their secular revolution.the Americans have their evangelicals,the italians have the vatican.


Right now gays,muslims& hindus have more rights than the average white Brit,cos they have nothng to hold on to undecided

They can't even agree to discipline their children. . . imagine 13,14 years olds getting drunk in pubs ? undecided

Some nut job recently murdered a lady who refused to accept him on facebook & all he got was about than 10 years in jail(with parole). So they have serious,serious problems. . . .
Christianity EtcRe: The Expressway Churches by illusion2: 9:18am On Feb 03, 2010
Very interesting reading.

As others have posted ,the problem isn't with faith (or belief) in itself,but with us (Africans). We are genetically very SUPERSTITIOUS. . .be it Christian,Muslim,pagan. We suspect & relate everything to the spiritual,so it has little to do with the faith/belief in God in itself.

I remember seeing a poster advertising the services of a 'Babalawo' at a bus stop in Elephant & Castle,UK. shocked shocked : one would think leaving Africa would have 'cured' people of such beliefs. . . but that unfortunately isn't the case.

For all the issues raised by the OP,the fact is Christianity and other faiths have a largely positive impact on society drug addiction,crime & marital problems have been sorted by faith & belief.

So we shouldn't swipe all in one clean swoop.
PoliticsRe: Nuzo For House Of Representatives 2011. The Revolution. by illusion2: 7:17am On Feb 03, 2010
Your vision isn't bad at all . . .

But IMO . . .you're too young for the thuggery currently required to achieve your goal.

Start a family,get your kids to spend some extended periods of their life with you . . . . .then commit to this.

I would suggest you start out as someone's chief of staff & learn your ropes from there. . . .

THIS IS NIGERIA !!
Christianity EtcRe: Please Dont Watch Bad Romance By Lady Gaga At Night by illusion2: 8:25pm On Feb 01, 2010
I see Tudor has reverted to being male . . . . . . . .when will this schizophrenia stop ? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: The Bible Confirms The Messengership Of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) by illusion2: 8:11pm On Feb 01, 2010
According to genuine muslims like olabowale. . . the Bible has been corrupted. So any link of btw the Bible and prophet mohammed(pbuh) is false.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool F.C Fans Zone - the Mighty Reds ! by illusion2(op): 8:00pm On Feb 01, 2010
bgees:
We just sold one of our promising young talents, Christopher Butchmann to Fulham for 100k. Isn't that ridiculous?
I hope this Rafa guy won't finish our club before accepting his 30 pieces of silver from Juve ? undecided
PoliticsRe: Fashola:-deception And Criminality At It's Highest||Lagosians wake up ! by illusion2: 7:02pm On Feb 01, 2010
Tho' I really would prefer to avoid this thread ,but I can't help but comment on this joker ,for the record again

[size=48pt]forpeace = ybab[/size]

& ybab is not female as 'she' opined earlier,proof below:

kuramo:
You cannot fool the good folks on Nairaland with your pathetic attempt. ybab who claims to be female was surprised when NL's automated filter changed his disgusting reference to a female puss y to kitten juice, how can someone who claims to be female make such a misogynistic comment.
More to come. ,

No one is saying you shouldn't criticise Fashola,by all means hold all political leaders accountable. But your thread is obviously biased.

Go back to your yahoo-yahoo spam mails my dear,you'll get more traction from those. cheesy
PoliticsRe: Fashola:-deception And Criminality At It's Highest||Lagosians wake up ! by illusion2: 12:48pm On Feb 01, 2010
Foolish boy,we are all too experienced to fall for your deceit.

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'forpeace' = ybab most likely = queenesthr[/size]. Olofo fighting and agreeing with yourself on one thread. . . . . grin

Beast of no nation. . . cheesy

For all other reasonable Lagosians - EKO O NI BAJE O ! kiss
PoliticsRe: I ’ve Failed My People —niger Governor by illusion2: 6:54am On Feb 01, 2010
He's about the only serious governor up north ,if you ask me.
PoliticsRe: Fashola & Mega Corruption The True Face Of Lagos (part 1) by illusion2: 9:42am On Jan 31, 2010
[quote author=aloy-emeka link=topic=390082.msg5419068#msg5419068 date=1264899299][size=18pt]All I know is that Fashola dey chop like other Nigerian thieves in power even though he spends a percentage of his loot on the state he is rulining.  Marwa stole and bought himself an airline, Bola Tinubu converted Lagos state to his private property and I am sure he is fighting with his boy Fashola because the  guy no gree make them loot the state clean. I am sure Fashola suggested they loot only 30% while he(Tinubu) is insisting on looting 95%. [/size] Tinubu is an active career criminal and he begat Fashola. The question remains for anyone here to answer: How can a Tiger give birth to a butterfly?

Fashola is smart because he knows that the day of reckoning is very near in Nigeria. The fear of the new  EFCC which will soon arise will  be  the beginning of wisdom.[/quote]You have put this succintly . . . .  . . . . . .
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 12:15pm On Jan 30, 2010
Abu isn't a lunatic,please. . .he's only misunderstood wink .
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Liverpool Vs Bolton Wanderers [2- 0] On Saturday 30th January by illusion2: 8:59pm On Jan 29, 2010
We should trash Bolton & get or claim for Top 4 restarted (yet again  cry cry )

BTW who chose Bolton to win this game? people dey really vex for us o sad
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 7:25pm On Jan 29, 2010
muhsin:
Greetings, illusion2
Muhsin is actually not an Islamic scholar but a student. Please don't refer to me as one again. Thanks. cool
As I stated above: am not anything like Islamic scholar, thus I'm gonna answer your question according to Dr. Jamal Badawi, who's [i]the [/i]noble Islamic scholar.
Greetings muhsin,you needn't bother yourself with semantics my friend,rather focus on the issues. A scholar is a student & all students are scholars. But if it bothers you ,I will remove your name from my prev post. Cheers, wink

muhsin:
He was asked this question: How should we deal with verse 9:5, which seems to be in conflict with verse 2:256 "la ikraha fi deen", i.e. there shall be no compulsion in religion?

Answer:

This ayah has been frequently quoted out of its textual and historical context.

1. The ayah has nothing to do with compulsion in religion.

2. It deals with mushrikeen which means idolatrous people who have nothing with Jews and Christians (see 98:1) which means a clear distinction between mushrikeen and People of the Book.

3. The ayah does not even include all idolatrous people nor idolatrous Arabs at the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) since it excludes those idolatrous Arabs who did not engage in murder and hostilities against Muslims. See for example verse 4 in Chapter 9.

4. The reason for fighting those idolatrous Arabs is not because they rejected Islam but because they broke the treaty of Hudaybiya and murdered innocent people. In fact the reason for fighting is given in verse 10 and 13, which shows that fighting them was because of their aggression and not because of their rejection of Islam. As far as the ending of verse 5, "that if they repent, establish prayer and paid the poor-due, then leave them alone", this does not mean that they must accept Islam to be left alone but it seems to indicate that since their aggression was promoted in the first place by hateful and irrational aggressive hate of the message of Islam that if they willingly accept Islam then the reason for their aggression will be voided not that it is a condition or stopping the war against them. Resorting to war and battlefield in Islam is only allowed to repel aggression or severe oppression. That simply gives another option for them, either to stop aggression and remain idolatrous or to willingly accept Islam and become brethren in faith.

There is absolutely no contradiction between the two verses you mentioned.

And Allah knows the best.
Thanks for this,but I disagree that there's no contradiction.

1. It clearly refers to people of the book,but even if it doesn't does that mean the idolatrous people can be forced? Also many muslims regard christians as idolator because they believ in the Trinity,wear the cross etc. So can't this definition be extended to christians?
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2. if we are to take all scriptures in context & history,shouldn't the issue of number of wives,eating of pigs,alcohol,smoking be also taken in their proper historical context?
We should either take EVERYTHING in context or take NONE. Picking what to take in historical context ,I feel may not be the wishes of Allah & his prophet. Correct me if Im wrong.

As per the Surah 9:29 above,don't you think if for example (God forbid !) Nigeria becomes an islamic country,genuine muslim leaders or someone from the 'Islamic Shura council',could pick up this 9:29 & force all non-muslims to convert & pay the prescibed tax.

I feel we can't just explain this verse away ,IMO.
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 10:14am On Jan 29, 2010
Abu Zola:
Wetin Baba 40 wan use suya do, leave it for the boiz.
Suya with burantashi does the trick my man wink
IslamRe: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 9:58am On Jan 29, 2010
To the noble Islamic scholars in the house (olabowale,Lagosboy,Jarus):

Could you help me reconcile these 2 verses from the Holy Koran;

Sura 9: 29
[9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
& Sura 2:256

2:256] There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.
So what is the subsisting agreement. .  .is religion by force or not according to your learned interpretation of the words of Allah as revealed to his servant- The Holy Prophet Mohammed (peace and blessings be upon him)
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 8:20am On Jan 29, 2010
Abu Zola:
Take some goro,
Thank you. . . grin Add some Suya na ? undecided

I wonder what Olabowale & Jarus have to say to this :

In the case of Kwara:

Would you rather identify with Yoruba as per ethnic identity or

Fulani as per Islamic (RELIGIOUS) identity.

I await your response.

Cheers,
PoliticsRe: Muslims Call On Allah To Stop Female Governorship In Kwara by illusion2: 8:19am On Jan 29, 2010
I wonder what olabowale & Jarus have to say to this :

In the case of Kwara:

Would you rather identify with Yoruba as per ethnic identity or

Fulani as per Islamic (RELIGIOUS) identity.

I await your response.

Cheers,
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 11:44pm On Jan 28, 2010
Abu Zola:
No froblem,
Cool wink
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 11:16pm On Jan 28, 2010
Abu Zola:
Lol.

Illusion the baba 40, hw far, its your son
I dey.
Asalamuailekum my boy. , how abuja?

Barka da jumaa'. . . no fighting again okay? wink
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 8:03pm On Jan 28, 2010
Easy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Wolves Vs Liverpool [0-0] On Tuesday 26 January by illusion2: 7:44pm On Jan 28, 2010
dayokanu:
Unwritten rule for what? If any liverpudian wants a thread they can write it but it shouldnt get stickied.

Barcelona and Madrid game threads dont get stickied why Liverpool
Very simple- because Arsenal,Chelsea & MANURE match threads get 'stickied'(whatever that means) tongue
SportsRe: And Ghana Refused to Go ! by illusion2(op): 7:39pm On Jan 28, 2010
[quote author=Luniyi_Glo link=topic=387830.msg5405318#msg5405318 date=1264703564]YOU SEE WHAT I SAID !!!! SOOO ANGRY!!! angry angry

Original poster should change this thread to Ghana Must Go to the Finals . . .

May be now we can be put out of our misery and they can SACK this idi0t before the World Cup. angry angry[/quote]Sad,sad. . . . . cry
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs Ghana [0 - 1] by illusion2: 7:05pm On Jan 28, 2010
obasi should have been replaced not Osaze,& it should have been Uche not Yakuseless,fine martins missed chances ,but not necessarily clear ones. .  .really painful.

This was a good opportunity to lift the cup after qualifying for so many semi-finals.

Not bad sha. Amodu's luck could only carry him so far. He started with prob our best available line-up,but we still came short.

Congrats to ghana.

[center][size=38pt]YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE  kiss kiss kiss[/size][/center]
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs Ghana [0 - 1] by illusion2: 5:54pm On Jan 28, 2010
1st half analysis :

The pitch is really horrible,it would have been better w/out grass honestly.

Obasi isn't in this game . . . Uche should come in for him.

Mikel holds on to the ball  with little forward movement.

Martins is trying. . . but really needs to take his chances. . .

All in all . . . not a bad game except for the goal conceeded by nwaneri ,who as will all know is really not up to this level of football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Wolves Vs Liverpool [0-0] On Tuesday 26 January by illusion2: 7:22am On Jan 28, 2010
tayoccu:
criz is right, and this thread proves her right, loserpool match day threads hardly go beyond the 1st page.
whats has number of posts got to do with it. The unwritten rule is for threads to be pened for TOP 4 teams,lets stick to this please.

Its not our fault Nigerians aren't exactly long term club supporters ? undecided

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YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE
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SportsRe: I Wanted To Quit After Zambia Victory – Amodu by illusion2: 7:06am On Jan 28, 2010
DakANGEL:
Ghana wl win
I BIND YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS !!!

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GHANA MUST (and will) GO !!!
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IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 6:55am On Jan 28, 2010
Habib16:
Impossible pls a Female Gvnr in my State KWARA Auzubillah, Subhanallah
Well said bro. . . just like a typical taliban. . . wa sere ! cheesy
EducationRe: 87 Students Bag First Class In UNILAG by illusion2: 8:19pm On Jan 27, 2010
ibkaye:
LOL
Considering the amount of fraudulency/bribery that goes on in that country, our maintaining a slight degree of skepticism about its truth deserves some pardoning, don't you think? grin
Good observation. , however this may not apply to 1st class,as this attracts a higher level of scrutiny,bth from academic & administrative structures of the academia i.e getting a 1st class anywhere in the world 'no be 'yoke' wink
IslamRe: Sharia Rules Out Female Governor In Nigeria by illusion2: 8:15pm On Jan 27, 2010
toba:
What assertion does sharia support?
That all men & women are created equal by God & can aspire to any office they so desire. . . insh'Allah
SportsRe: Yakubu Has An Overbloated Opinion Of Himself by illusion2(op): 7:56pm On Jan 27, 2010
Please read comments about Yakubu 2 years ago at the 2008 ACON .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A31868887

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