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That would be done during the millennial reign. Do all you can to be there, otherwise sorry is not enough for your case.

SimplyFacts:
The sleep paralysis I had few days ago was scary. I could feel/see something playing with my manhood, as if she (couldn't be sure of gender) wanted to use her mouth on me. With so much anger, I wanted to rebuke it but I was so powerless - couldn't talk or raise hands. I later woke up with fast heartbeats & said some prayers. It was in the daytime.

Could that be a spirit wife? I think I need to go for deliverance.

Deliverance from what, are you possessed? One way or the other though, you'll get to be prayed for so maybe it works. Let's hope you don't fall into the hands of manipulators though.
If you are a child of God and you are living a life that pleases God, no need to go anywhere. You get up and deal with the devil. Make him pay and pray. Otherwise?

lasisi69:
yes, you are right but, I also want to know...

There's no known profit to it, don't expose yourself to what you don't need.

LordReed:
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Your Bible is not a scientific treatise, it's a collection of ancient mythological tales that you want to give relevance to. I prefer what we have gathered as knowledge now, not some ancient bs legends.



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How can anyone want to give relevance to the most relevant book on earth? Reed, they reason fully na, stop misusing your faith.

lasisi69:
Please, anyone on spirituality path should please, tell me how they operate and manipulate their preys !!! Don't ignore

You want to apply and join? Why not seek to know God more instead of knowing devil and his depths?

kimco:
And im telling you that human emotions are repeatable...9/ 10 times i can make you angry by indulging in certain behaviours. If i hit you hard each time, you will be angry for most of the episodes. Human emotions are repeatable....i dnt get why you seem to think they are not. Gamma rays can be confirmed through other scientific tools and its effects as well. In order to state that gamma rays caused so so and so to happen we must confirm first that gamma rays exist. Same applies to the soul, the soul needs to be proven for us to attribute emotions to it. You have failed to do that. What shows that it is not the work of fairy dust or shows its not the work of my grandpa's ghost? Prove the soul first before anything else.

Individual emotions are not measurable or repeatable. For instance, a true christian will not get angry at all, he will attempt to make peace or even turn the other cheek as it were. Also, the so called influence(r)s can come into play. One may not get angry because of what may be lost by the anger, or because of what was the consequence of the first anger or previous episodes of anger. Some may even feel that they deserve to be hit harder each time.
i have proven the existence of the soul to you, only that you dismissed my evidence without any consideration. This is why i already stated that it is not subjected to physical or scientific or laboratory evidence. You agree with the physical characteristics of the soul like emotion and intellect), only that you do not agree that the soul is responsible. There is no further way i can help you in the lab on that. You need to perhaps contest the authority of the Scriptures. If you told me the dream you had and i do not believe it due to lack of lab evidence, there's nothing much you can do for me in the regard. It does not mean you did not have the dream.

kimco:
Okay let me track back....and rephrase.

Why did he not work in the night during the creation story? It may have to do with the magnitude of the miracle....but lets not go there.just answer the question. Why did he not work in the night if he could, since miracles were performed in the night?

It can be any reason. Like i said, did not is not the same as can not. You don't just do things simply because you can do them, do you?
On a church or Bible school note/level, the lesson is one of rest. Just like the sabbath day. God worked six days and rested on the seventh day, as an example/pattern for man to rest and to rest other creatures and creation. Life is not all about work.

Joh 9:4  I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. 
Exo_20:9  Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo_20:11  For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exo_23:12  Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.

thebosstrevor1:
Yes. It is military doctrine

Wow. Waste, because in Nigeria's context now. They become idle minds collecting pension. And we know what idle minds with money, connection and power do.

Tomide007:
Well put. Infact Course 37 will go, or they'll posted to defence.

Wow, so all their experience, intelligence and competence will be retired for them to start collecting pension?

AdolfHitlerxXx:
If you scroll through comments, you would see that very few understand this basic policy of military appointments.

So idiots are already spewing trash and liking their own stupidity.

They're not necessarily idiots, they just need proper communication in the information age we live in.

thebosstrevor1:
Military rank is by senority according to course. The junior salutes the senior. As you get to the pinnacle of your career, the size of top officers starts to shrink.

Every potential commissioned officer are admitted to the Military university ( NDA) by course. Course is like academic year.

For instance, a person who is in course 7 is a junior student when compared to someone who is in course 6.

Remember that a junior salutes a senior( course 7 salutes a course 6)

If the president overlooks course 6 and choose his army head from course 7, every body in course 6 will have to retire to allow the junior rule so as to allow him carry out his functions without fear and intimidation from his seniors.

Is that the way it is in other countries, i am just wondering.

thebosstrevor1:
It is normal .

It is expected that some generals will retire when a new coas comes to office.

It is just military process.

The present COAS is from Course 37, born on 5th of January 1966 and he is from zamfara state.

The former COAS is from course 36, all his mate in 36 will have to retire.

Why if i may ask?

Hattbricker:
Obasanjo is truly a nationalist.

The nationalist that set Nigeria up for what it fell into.

budaatum:
I will consider reporting you all for:

1. Please post all threads in the right section, and don't derail threads by posting off topic.

2. Don't abuse, bully, deliberately insult/provoke, fight, or wish harm to Nairaland members OR THEIR TRIBES.

23. Do not deliberately be immature!

Good one, or call your subject to order which is quite straightforward and manly.

LordReed:
Don't mind the joker. Always forming high horse and ignoring his obvious hypocrisy. LoL.

See as you turn yourself into a gossip na. Instead of you to call your boy privately to use his senses sensibly. Anyways, you're both under the radar, speak folly and hear from me shortly.

kingxsamz:
Abeg comot. This is the last time I'll reply to your foolishness on this forum. Once I see your yeye mention, I won't bother reading.

Try keeping to your own words. This is not your first time, neither are you under duress. Tell mummy to stop the prayers, sammy. Or better still, don't exhibit outright folly.

kingxsamz:
That clown followed me to food section just to tell me this.

Living rent free in sammy's life and mind, all thanks to his mum's prayers. My harmless and friendly call to repentance are continually etched in the inner crevices of his young mind. Hallelujah.

LordReed:
LMAO! Says the guy who follows me specifically so he can quote or mention me. Bwahahahahaha!

Do you know the meaning of "always"? You can phone a friend or ask close family members for help?

LordReed:
LMAO! Always looking for my attention. The kinda replies you seek won't be coming.

If i always look for your attention, i will always quote or mention you. Fact is i don't. Stop sulking, behave your age.

bunto:
Check out how much a cow cost in US and how much it costs to airfreight an animal by living weight and you will get your numbers.
I take my time to research before I post on any topic, do you?
On average, a cow will produce six to seven gallons of milk each day.

"What do cows eat? A cow that is milking eats about 100 pounds each day of feed, which is a combination of hay, grain, silage and proteins (such as soybean meal), plus vitamins and minerals. " (Google)

Now imagine again how this can be profitable. It is obvious that the Governor didn't consult with independent consultants on this, some people came and made a proposal to him and he fell for it. They are just businessmen!!

Nigeria presently has 20,000,000 (Twenty Million) indigenous cows.
Averagely our milking cows produce about 2 litres per day, compared to some of California's cows that produce between 20-68 liters depending on the season.

When will we be able to get anything tangible from these 500 imported cows? It's not just economically viable and mark this post, come back in a couple of years and the whole thing will be abandoned by the next Governor.

Fayemi and co would have made their money and gone though.

You may have a problem with the business, the government, the political party or whatever, that's your business. What i said is clear, there is nothing to show what you stated as a FACT. You said "$5,000,000 (Five million dollars) spent on importing 500 cows alone". There is no validation for this statement.

bunto:
I didn't pull this figure out of my a.s, it was in the news.

https://thenationonlineng.net/fayemi-promasidors-5m-investment-on-ikun-dairy-farm-boost-for-ekiti-economy/amp/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/ekitistategov/status/1361606183958810626%3Flang%3Den&ved=2ahUKEwjUspWQxenwAhXH_7sIHVWzB9gQFjACegQIExAC&usg=AOvVaw2EAsWO1HkPaGsvyXuQn-jg

In your words, you said "$5,000,000 (Five million dollars) spent on importing 500 cows alone". Nothing of such is stated or implied in the links you posted.

LordReed:
Take your own advice. I have never seen you acknowledge you learnt something from anybody on here.

Search harder, you should find what you seek reed. Good to see you took the advice.

budaatum:
Sounds like you want a discussion about "literal interpretations", or what people infer from what might be implied.

Some have and still do selectively literally interpret their reading of the Bible that way as you can see from the links I posted to such people right here on Nairaland. In fact, if you get your hands on an old King James Version, you'd see the exact date of creation in the margins as determined by Bishop Ussher, which makes such literal interpretations easier to infer since it is literally implied

American fundamentalists in 1925 found—and generally accepted as accurate—Ussher’s careful calculation of dates, going all the way back to Creation, in the margins of their family Bibles. (In fact, until the 1970s, the Bibles placed in nearly every hotel room by the Gideon Society carried his chronology.)
Bishop James Ussher Sets the Date for Creation: October 23, 4004 B.C.

Literal interpreting - also sometimes erroneously referred to as fundamentalism, which it is similar to but not exactly the same thing as - is simply what we read someone did when Christ is written to have said "unless one is born again, one shall not enter the Kingdom of God". One may say Jesus implied one should enter back into one's mother's womb to be born as a baby again, and you will still hear some ask how a grown person is to enter their mother's womb to be reborn, an understanding they themselves infer based on a literal interpretation of what Christ is written to have said, which is why I do not give countenance to those who claim "the Bible says" (implies), when the truth is the Bible did not say anything and we all refer to what we understand from our reading of what is written in the Bible and claim, lie even, that the Bible said what we ourselves inferred. Paul would describe such people as those who spake as a child and understood as a child, and thought as a child and who have not yet put away childish things and become mature adults.

Its what you yourself did here by initially implying I meant what you inferred until you decided to question me face to face so you may know in whole (devoid of inferences) what I meant by my post.

Literally speaking, you became as a child by giving me the benefit of the doubt that what you inferred might not exactly be what I implied, and by abiding faith, hope and the greatest of these which is charity towards buda your fellow human being, you put away the initial childish inferences, became an adult and are hopefully reborn with a new clearer understanding of what buda wrote. I hope.

Yes i assumed that you agreed with your OP, you have since stated that you don't so i'm fine. The Bible is not Usher or any other preacher. The Bible never stated or implied the age of the Earth. It is that simple.

bunto:
I wonder how long it will take this farm to generate the $5,000,000 (Five million dollars) spent on importing 500 cows alone, not to talk of the other costs of setup.

Nigerian leaders scamming the people since forever. How much Milk will they generate to cough out even a fraction of the investment?

You surely have the sales receipt i think?

budaatum:
Of course not, which is also what Image123 seems to be assuming or that I am claiming anything of the sort is written or implied in the Bible!

Exactly, but you seem to have clarified or separated yourself from the link. So, carry on as it were.

LordReed:
Dude is just looking for who to argue with by nitpicking and jumping to conclusions. I suggest you not waste your time.

Stop sulking reed. Be a gracious learner, not a sore loser.

budaatum:
What do you mean by "agreed" with what I shared?

That some "believe that the universe was created by a divine being, within the past six to ten thousand years (in keeping with flood geology), and that the presence of objective, verifiable evidence that the universe is older than approximately ten millennia is due to the creator introducing false evidence that makes the universe appear significantly older"?

That "Various supporters of Young Earth creationism have given different explanations for their belief that the universe is filled with false evidence of the universe's age, including a belief that some things needed to be created at a certain age for the ecosystems to function, or their belief that the creator was deliberately planting deceptive evidence"?

If so, yes I do agree with what I shared that says some believe that way as you would find in this thread, along with some who think it is written in their Bible that the earth is flat, which is why the thread was created.

Here, your link says " a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation narrative, which implies that the Earth is only a few thousand years old."
You are here saying that SOME people say so. i have no problem with that, but your links calls it a literal interpretation of the Bible. that is where the disagreement is.

KnownUnknown:
Sound decibels produced by fans in a stadium can be used as measure of excitement. I never said joy but sound decibels can also be part of the framework for measuring joy. You haven't taught anything so please don't get arrogant.
Gratefulness can be measured on a determined scale. e.g. N5000 is not significant to me but to you it’s significant. So if someone gave us both N5000 each, you’d be more grateful than me. On a scale of 1-5, your gratefulness could be 4 while mine is 2.
The emotions that gave rise to the feeling of gratefulness can also be measured as already shown and used to validate the gratefulness scale.

You haven't explained anything but make claims about the Blum Soul. Emotions/intellect are brain functions that can be measured. Also, your apparent misunderstanding of science leads you to erroneously believe measurement is strictly quantitative whereas it can also be qualitative.

Can a soul emote or display intellect without a functioning brain?

Sound decibels are not an accurate measure of individual emotion, except you do not know what you are talking of like i suspect. That i am very happy or happier than you does not mean i have to produce decibels. It is in no way a accurate measure and can even be a false pointer. You briefly left the absurd decibel theory, that was why i hoped you had learned not to return to it, but evidently you did not learn. Two people producing the same amount of decibel does not mean they are going through the same thing, but these are your pointers and standards.
Either you are quite young or very naive not to know what true gratitude is. So you think gratitude is by what one has or does not have? SMH.
You are yet to show us how you truely measure individual emotions. Repetition is not the same thing as truth. Give us standard qualitative measurement for guile, love, hatred, bitterness. You are talking of heart rate and decibels. How many decibels or rate or beat is the standard for love? If it is X beats, are you saying that those above that truly love and those below do not?

KnownUnknown:
The electromagnetic spectrum is not a good explanation for the soul because we can detect it regardless if it's visible or invisible unlike the soul. Regardless if x-ray, gamma rays, or infrared are invisible to us, they are reproducible and can be detectable unlike the soul.
Your claim of Soul is akin to claiming that there is invisible/undetectable part of the spectrum called the Blum. Or that the Blum is the source of gamma rays and xrays.

It is a very good explanation, albeit not a parallel or equal. The spectrum simply shows that things can be INVISIBLE to the human eyes/senses and yet exist and be revealed through other medium. Same way you ask for physical evidence of the soul and i say like the Bible says that the soul is the part of the human responsible for emotions and intellect. If an Authority mentions the "Blum", i'll take it serious for consideration, not just mentioning for the sake of it.

I, and others, said the brain's function is physically seen or expressed by emotions and intellect, and the soul is an idea that does not explain anything except it's used as a metaphor for emotions/feelings e.g. "Soul" Music.
I used DMX's vegetative brain and it's hampered ability to emote as an example of how the brain and emotions are obviously tied together but you insisted that DMX still had emotions because if his "soul" but couldn't express it because the brain was "fried", which indicates that your concept of soul is brain dependent. You haven't said anything to prove otherwise because all your examples for soul are traceable to, and nonexistent without, the brain.

The concept of the soul is scripture dependent, not brain dependent. It is you who is looking for physical evidence that has a lot to say about the brain. Like i have said, you cannot get scientific or physical or laboratory evidence for things that are ethereal.

Sigh. Your scriptures were written by men like me who were born of vaginas, shit themselves as infants, breathe oxygen, drink water, and who will die, like me. There is nothing special about "the scriptures", the people who wrote them, or the people who compiled them and called the collection "The Bible". Their beliefs, however clever or true there were for their time and to people like you, remains unfounded and are not better or more accurate about man/nature than other unfounded beliefs that you readily dismiss.

Give two examples of books of same or higher significance for proper comparison.

budaatum:
And my reading it suggests to you that I am under the impression that the Bible says "the earth was created" in my "implied time"?

Care to explain how you arrived at that conclusion please? I really am interested.

Do you agree with what you shared or no?

budaatum:
Care to elaborate where I implied any time?

The wiki picture you shared, you must have read it i suppose?

LordReed:
A trickster god. LoL

Rather a careless student of the Word.