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repogirl:
They should keep siphoning money and covering it up with stúpid, redundant and irrelevant projects.

If this isn't Kwaraptian, what is?

We've been through these arguments and stats already, it's not news. What we critically need is IMPLEMENTATION of capital expenditures for once,then let's see how things go from there. You should be asking questions about your state and local government budgets, about NASS and Judiciary budget instead of the lopsided wailing.

So life's most important question is "does God exist?" Lol, yet you guys claim not to care. Stop chasing shadows.

i was thinking that the girl should be in some kind of special rehabilitation place and detoxified,instead of sent immediately to chibok to "live happily ever after".

Edybleketara:
Atheists aren't exactly trying to disprove d existence of God. U'll save urself a lot of stress if u stop thinking dat way.

Of course, atheists are the most confused set of people ever to grace the planet. They don't know what they want or do, probable reason why some refer to them with the f word.

Weah96:
Name another place you go to purchase hope with currency.

What does it mean to purchase hope with currency?

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER NINE
CONTINUE JARE JARE

Also, in school, I mean the Pre-degree stuff- (na this one funny me pass), I and another zealous brother started a fellowship which began to grow in membership, I was like supporting him anyway. Some other guys who were also sound in the word, joined us to preach, pray and you know, keep the fire burning.

Now, I and my co-founder live off-campus so, we allowed two of these word seasoned brothers to coordinate from the hostel. Things were going well, suddenly, these two brothers, decline to be joining us in the Friday fellowship. Suddenly a large chunk of members withdrew. I found out that, they had started their own fellowship which was slated for Saturday. So they told their would-be members not to join us again and since 90% of students lived in the hostel, most went with them. It was a Power play which I understand very well. Now prior to this breakaway, the overzealous guys were brainwashed by one of the lecturers teaching us, he took them to his church. I did not know what he did to them but they were never the same again. When they came back, they told me and my co-founder that, we should make the fellowship an arm of the man’s church and that after our Friday meeting’s. We should encourage all members to go for church service.

I was shocked because they were speaking with so much authority. Well, I was glad about the kind of nature, my co-founder has, we both did not agree to the offer because it negates why it was even started in the first place because, we do not take offering. Now making us a student church of some rookie church will make us take orders from the church which will surely request we take offering and even tithe. They refused and to spoil the fun, they said, “God told them so”.
So when, the break-away occurred, I was not surprised that it occurred but I was surprised at the temerity and tenacity of these guys. At what age? They are already usurping power. Since, they now control, majority of the fellowship, Personally, I stepped down and do not attend again. My co-founder did the same and we handed over everything to them not because we were afraid, but frankly speaking, we could not win that game. Both of us were living outside the hostel. They will win and I do not like to lose when I play game. So I, we did the honourable thing. We both had the same mindset and opinion on issues.

Now, that scenario is a typical example of what I really happening in many big churches and even smaller ones just that, we did not cause a scene. Over what? Money or fame. We never wanted any. We just wanted to fellowship. That’s all
My dear reader, na school carry me come, no be church or fellowship, so let me concentrate on the real thing, it will determine if I will be admitted or not. So my involvement with the fellowship ended even when I got admission into school proper but not UI, I never had anything to do with fellowship because, like I had affirmed earlier, I hate hypocrisy. It turns me off. And Students’ fellowship is a hypocrisy hub. How will a papa that was asking me question 2 in the exam hall come to preach to me? What will he say that will enter my ears? I can’t listen to him. Or the choir director who I know how many guys she slept with that week alone and she will come with her Lucifer voice to lead in worship. I no fit stay under that kind anointing abeg except I don’t know. That was why I opted completely for the church, these stuff do happen in church, but it’s not as open as it is in student circles.
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This is a rather unfortunatel state of the church. It was well predicted in the Bible, and Jesus Christ wondered if He would find true faith on earth when He returns. There's however a disconnect between this common trend and a total disbelief in God.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER NINE
CONTINUE JARE
Let go to the religious part of the story, the church I attended at home has branches all over the country and beyond, so I do not need to search for a befitting one all over again. I joined one of the branches closest to where I live. I recall, the first day, I attended the church service, it was a very warm one. At the end of the service, the pastor’s wife came to me to do the usual talking, persuasion to be part of them.

I told her, I am already part of them and explained I had been in the choir at another branch. Immediately, she handed me over to the choir-mistress. A very cool, calm and collected lady, she welcomed me well. That day, I went with them to a special event they were invited. I was happy, I found a nice church to worship God. My schooling was also going fine.
Trouble started for me, the day my choir mistress asked me to lead in song at the rehearsal because, the guy who was supposed to do that, was not around. I did sing. After the rehearsal, she told me, I would take the praise a/worship and both offerings ministration. I was like, madam, no. She insisted, I do it. I do not like to argue on issues when I do not have a good or strong point. I agreed. My dear reader, that Sunday service was the beginning of my nightmare in that church. That Sunday, I realized the pastor’s wife was not responding during all my ministration. She was gloomy all through. Well, I do not care. The service went fine without her. Subsequent Sundays, I was on the rooster to minister either, in praise worship, or offering and what have you. Now unknown to me, the guy who had been the celebrity before I came was the Pastor’s son. He had become like a tin god to the choir courtesy of his mother. So he does as he likes and get away with it. So when the choir mistress saw what I did with songs. She disposed the guy partially by using him less. So war was unleashed on me unknowingly. To make matters worse, he has about two or three siblings in the choir apart from loyalists like the drummer, who was dating one of the sister. That was when I knew another dimension of church politics. In the church, there are factions different types and kinds such as
1. The I-don’t-care factions of a church/unit- I belong here. I do criticize too but not the person but the doctrine or message.
2. The Criticizers-ever waiting to pounce on you at any mistake
3. The loyalists- these ones are seeking for favour from the leader and would do anything to remain in the good books of the leader
4. The Wailers- they support no one like the i-don’t-care faction yet, they will wail and complain about everything. They are not criticizing you. They are just telling you thing are not just supposed to be like this, it should have been like this. Tell them to come up to do it. They will run.

In fact, a faction can just be one person because he/she has his own ideology he/she wants implemented. Well, the Ibadan experience equipped me for a much more dangerous turf where I finally quit the stage. Back to my story, suddenly, when it is my turn to lead in song, the microphones will be faulty, or the drummer will not be around, or the back-up singers will be unresponding as they ought to. But, as soon as the young man takes over from me, or during his lead ministration, come and see turn around. At first, when I noticed, I ignored the whole thing. I continued steadfastly but I noticed, all eyes were on me, my speech, my movement, were being watched. I ignored still. Until one vigil, at the rehearsal, we had rehearsed and perfected everything with everyone intact and ready. The vigil came, the young man was to lead in praise/worship. He did and everyone was in high spirit. When the second round came, it was my turn, I started well, but the drummer was misbehaving, I managed to do my best but my zeal was dampened. Later, that morning, I went to the choir mistress to inform her of what I observed. She promised to do something about it. I think, that got her into trouble with the Pastor’s wife but I do not know the details, she refused to tell me but I knew she had issues with her. The nonsense did not stop, I told myself, I am not competing with this boy- indeed he was a boy, far younger than I am. So I told the choir mistress, I won’t like to lead in song. I would be a back-up tenor singer. She tried to dissuade me. I told her, I won’t. The boy was enjoying his free ride again. All alone. Things became fine. No more, bad microphone and other funny issues except for the drummer guy. I did not know what happened.

But one Sunday service, he did not show up. I stepped in. Everybody was like, “Who teach am? Can he even play this thing?”. Choir mistress was worried, I told her, am pretty good and she should not worry. She had faith in me and I did not disappoint her. That day, a lot of church member came to me for the first time, to commend me for playing the drum set and said a lot of good things. I did not know that, the attention I got, will get me into another issue. I began to play drum set regularly. Now, see the politics, the drummer boy is in the celebrity guy’s faction and loyalist of the pastor’s wife. So it was like, my presence there is overshadowing theirs such that, people are no longer noticing them as it used to be. So it sparked anger and jealousy in all involved. There is young guy too in the choir, very unserious though, but he was a lap dog to this pastor’s son (the celebrity guy) but since I came, he began to follow me, I tried to dissuade him, he won’t bug. To make matters worse for me, he lives a stone’s throw away from my place of residence, so I could not push him off totally. He always come around. We chat, I advise him and also pray with him. He was an addict of this “BABA IJEBU LOTTO”. The two sisters he has in the choir too, former loyalists of the pastor’s wife were trying to get close too. So I was like a show spoiler, fun destroyer, fame stealer to them. But seriously, I did not make any conscious effort towards all the aforementioned. I just did my thing because I loved God and want to please him not man.
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Politics is found everywhere unfortunately. One should not be so naive and shocked to the point of atheism at such discovery.

Weah96:
In glad you understand your own expression, now try and follow this idea. Hope is absent from the market not because it is precious but worthless as a commodity. There are expensive things in the market, but hope is only sold in the church building. Why?

You're glad i understand my own expression, ohhhhhhhhh Godddddd. Anyway, i didn't mention hope in the statement you're referring to.Hope is not worthless, neither is it SOLD in the church, ONLY. Please be rational and logical in what you say, i can as well engage you "in faith" as it were, not caring to make sense. Hope is a desire with expectation, wanting something to happen. People everywhere from all walks of life have hope, for God's sake i've never heard something as absurd as hope is only sold in church building. But why?

My gripe, I repeat, is with people trying to make of the bible what it is not. Talk about the man in the mirror, oops.

Weah96:
You won't find peace of mind in the market for sale. Nor will you find worries for sale. Only materials, chairs, pepper, onions, radios, etc

Are you the fellow that said " Only real materials are sold in the market"? You must be a good story teller,do you write comics for children?
The expression "dem no dey sell am for market" means that something is precious, not cheaply gotten, uncommon. Hope you comprehend?

HardMirror:
Your fantasy makes you happy and I am glad to hear that.
Makes you feel invincible, well hope u don't hurt yourself.

i've not hurt myself for over 20years, Jesus didn't hurt Himself, John, Peter,Paul,Timothy, Thomas, Matthew did not hurt themselves. My contemporary seniors didn't hurt themselves. Pastors Oyedepo,Adeboye, Kumuyi', Zacharias, Poonen, etc are not hurting themselves. Do you smoke or what are you talking about? BTW, i don't feel invincible.

AccidentalGenius:
the bible god says we are all decendants of adam and eve. I'd like to know which race they were? Black? White? Indian? Asian? Hispanic? Caucasian? Really i'd like to know. I'd also like to know how each race came about since you'd need a member of each race to get pregnant and bring about a decendant of that race. If i get this answer only, lol ignoring all other obvious questions, then maybe, just maybe i'll start believe this christians aren't Brain Dead and totally Lost in life

Do you believe in miracles? Hehehehehehehe, got you, that's the answer,were you expecting a chemical equation?

HardMirror:
And if I may ask, have u been able to prove God either?

Yep.

Weah96:
Only real materials are sold in the market. If you are interested in buying empty hope, you go to the church and remit your cash. In return the pastors sell you a piece of hope and tell you that your sins are forgiven.

Only real materials are sold in the market? Who's this one, should i not rather listen to the wind than such ludicrous fable.

HardMirror:
There are millions that have similar testimonies and we are not christians. So chill man

Good for them, very good. It doesn't disprove the existence of God.

HardMirror:
Hehehehehe
Oh yes you do. You have eternal life, let me not be a saddist and crush your fairy tale dreams.
The city in the clouds with gold streets and mansions.
Not trying to be a bully here so let me leave u with ur precious hope

i was hoping you'd try to crush, are you tired? Eternal life is not just eternity or afterlife BTW, get some education on that. It's like someone thinking he can disprove my state of origin on the internet, very funny. What do you think you are going to say that will make me feel bullied or intimidated? Can you intimidate Obama? Can a vicious ravenous angry howling ant bully a lion? We're not talking hearsay or just what we read Mr.

HardMirror:
Make you feel special right?
That is the aim of the whole scheme. To make the followers feel they have something special no one else can get
Makes me think of my baby cousins and tricks we use in making them feel special. Oh how they love being called princesses.
Feels good to be a son of the Almighty God right. Hehehehe
Enjoys o

I don't feel special, i am special. Nothing wrong with that is there? My lifestyle change is tangible and for the better,my family,neighborhood, colleagues and friends know it and feel it. The inner peace and joy is not what money can buy for me.I looked for it like Forever but i found it in Jesus. That is good enough for me and i will sure enjoy and testify, thank you. All my fears and anxiety and even eternal questions are also taken away, something my money and education could not sort. All these happening because of God,and there are many more who will testify forever. You're looking for a wrong definition of God.i don't need the miraculous to believe or trust God. BTW, my life is very miraculous but i know you wouldn't believe if i shared so i wouldn't even bother. However, the point is,you don't need power and miracles to believe in God.

HardMirror:
In addition, we can all over come what you call sin when rightly motivated, for you and many others, believe in God and the bible gives you this motivation

There you go again. Any sect can be religious or moral. Not every sinner is a liar,or a thief, or a fornicator etc. The unspeakable joy of forgiveness of sin, eternal life,the witness in the spirit and the fruit of the Spirit. Them no dey sell am for market.

HardMirror:
Oh yes just like islam has made many lives better. I have 3 friends who are now muslims and they are more responsible no and living productively.
Same with many good decision one makes in life.
Truth is my life has positively improved since becoming an atheist.
We all have our life stories to tell. Christianity has a lot of good to offer so why not? I will recommend it to people even as an atheist.
But I will always know that the God of the bible does not exist.

Lol, the 'prosperity gospel' has pretty much messed you up. I'm not referring to general wellbeing or morality. i'm referring to eternal life. i have eternal life.

HardMirror:
Obvious you don't read the bible or you chose to avoid the aspects of miracles and promises of miracle. Yout prefer the ambiguous portions that relaxes any expectations that would lead to embarrassment for ur believe.
We can keep going in circles on this.
All I know is, "Your God does not matter where it matters"
Shikena

Lol, you have not understood the Bible. i'm sure when i start quoting Bible now, you'd cuddle under the excuse of 'contradictory'. Bible says to STUDY. You failed to study,just read a couple of verses and promises and started jumping. James and John did similar with their mom, but Jesus said no no no. The experiences in the Bible are also clearly put down for your learning and experience. Stop reminding me of one ITK boy i knew then in secondary school who thought he knew it all when he knew and had nothing.

HardMirror:
You don't just get it. If God is ambiguous and can only be known thru faith, don't you think this is an elaborate scheme to hoodwink people into believing something that does not exist?
What if I told you Great Gwagwa if the creator of your God, but you can only understand Gwagwa thru faith? And don't worry, just like your God, Great Gwagwa is also ambiguous so don't ask for tangible or logical proves.

An elaborate scheme that BREAKS the power of cancelled sin and sets the captive free is a good scheme. Jesus changed my life, brought me out of the miry clay of sin and put me where i am today. This same has been the testimony of many others through countless generations forever. If Great Gwagwa has something better up his sleeves, let him bring it on already or forever remain silent.

HardMirror:
FACT. My immediate younger brother was "healed" of epilepsy too. Not had any seizures in the past 13 years now.
We praised God because we felt it was our prayers that were answered. But further research showed people do "out grow" epilepsy, it happens a lot without prayers or medical intervention, the seizures just seizes.
So that is still an ambiguous case.
Can we pls make new eyes for that boy without eyes? That won't be ambiguous.

There you go, people also die from epilepsy. God can make new eyes for your boy and ive consistently given you how. One if He pleases, two if you have faith and ask for it, and three if you find one with the gift of the Spirit. Like I've said, it proves nothing in the end. Jesus did more and yet was crucified. God didn't do for many and they still went on to believe Him and even be inspiration to others for centuries E.g Fanny J Crosby. So what exactly is your point again?

HardMirror, the question you have asked in your OP stem from a poor understanding of who God is. God created man autonomous as it were, what they call freewill. He gave man the domain, dominion and knowledge to conquer his world. He seldom interferes, in fact His interferences are what we call MIRACLES. His interference comes in three main ways, by Sovereignty, by our asking for it, and by His laid down principles followed. That is primarily for our little 70-100yrs here on this cursed earth BTW. He's made plans for those who are interested in living with Him in the afterlife and those uninterested. That one sure pass, that's WHERE GOD IS, saving sinners,forgiving the penitent, giving righteousness and transforming lives. This is the PRIMARY purpose He sent His Son and gave His life. It is unfortunate that what we refer to as the "prosperity gospel" has given many a sick and disabled view of God.

HardMirror:
Christians are reducing their expectations from God and making it more ambiguous.
Noticed the thread of the boy whose eyes were plucked out by ritualists, not a single prayer for the boy to be restored. They were all praying for his future to be great or that God should punish the ritualists. Lol
It tells a lot on their own low expectations from a God that promised his followers the power to move mountains into the sea with just faith as little as mustard seed.

For instance, on this same page, someone claims to be healed by God from epilepsy. i don't even care whether it is true or false as it adds nothing to me and removes nothing. Does God heal,of course yes. Is God/divine miracle the only source of healing? No. You're the one looking for healing and miracles. If this fellow proves to you that he had epilepsy and doesn't have it again, will you believe God? Will you not like the Pharisees of Jesus time look for a 1000 explanations to soothe your pain? Therein lies your hypocrisy.

HardMirror:
Hehehe
I keep smiling and shaking my head. It's just so funny how ambiguous this God is. People worshiping the sun are better of. Why? So obvious that without the sun there is no life and the sun is there for all to see and experience it's impact.
But the God of the Bible makes SO MANY promises and NONE of it can be proven tangibly. I just shake my head at how christians keep contradicting the bible.
You don't have the manifestation of the power of God which Jesus promises several times, yet hyou guys keep making noise everywhere.

Jesus made eymes with clay and his spittle (saliva) for a man that did not have eyes, imagine just one of this miracles in this modern times, Just ONE! Oh my brother.

A promise of commanding mountain into the sea with faith as small as mustard seed is yet to be actualized. U can't even move sugar cube with faith as big as coconut.

All of a sudden God is not God of the bible now, all he does are things that are ambiguous. How can hospitals be treating more people than God is healing? With over 2 billion Christians worldwide. Na wa o.
We would have thought by now there will be at least 1000 people that are like elijah or jesus. But for where?

Of course, God is ambiguous and the Bible clearly says so, great is the mystery of godliness. This is my exact point, you want God to be as straight and simple as ABC else He don't exist. You're disappointed He's not visible or shouting from the sky to prove His existence. He doesn't need to. Without FAITH, it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God, and those that worship God MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth. Plainly on HIS terms. He's not desperate.
There are manifestations and miracles and the supernatural if you care to look for them. The problem is will you believe? When you listen to testimonies, do you believe? Do you believe that the Bible miracles happened? Why waste then the effort if miracles didn't save them in the past or present?

Weah96:
I want evidence of the god defined in the Bible. What I think about the real God wouldn't matter if your Bible god was doing what the Bible says he does.

There are two ways to arrive at my position. You either read the Bible well and see that the claims therein are unsubstantiated in real life or you create an independent idea of God in your head which contradicts the Bible one. I used the former. I ran out of excuses for the Bible god as I got older, primarily because the Bible kept opposing my excuses.

Would have preferred you open a thread to discuss this so as not to derail the thread and to reduce distractions and skipping pages in-between. But i'm fine anyway if you are, and it seems the OP just quoted me along the same lines.i do wish i had more time for detail like i would, and i still hope to answer the OP's story and some other mentions.
Nonetheless, the evidence of the God defined and revealed in the Bible is very clear, especially when you read the Bible as a whole not picking and choosing a few lines, and when you observe the actions of God and of Jesus. Evidently, actions speak clearer and louder than words. God is invisible, God works with faith, God is holy, and God is SOVEREIGN.

There goes vanguard again. It's now 10 killed. Same attack, same newspaper, as the evil spirit leads, sometimes it's 500 or 300 or 60 or 10. And it was done by FULANI herdsmen to Christian igbos,after millions died in biafra, and there were two coups, and ipob. Just put everything in, let there be chaos. No wonder, credible people are not taking these stories serious but with a pinch of salt. Where is the proof that the attack was carried out by herdsmen and they were Fulani? How many were killed, we keep hearing massacre and genocide but no picture evidence. All we see is one or two injured people and a burnt building, and a weeping/laughing/dining governor.

frosbel2:
There is no heaven or hell.

It is either life on this earth which we expect to be renewed or final death in it's truest form.

God does not care about religion, only those who do what is right will inherit this earth as the bible clearly teaches.

Many so called Christians who think they will make a mythical heaven because they abide by the doctrine of their church are going to be in for a big big shocker.

Shoo, where God and angels com dey na?

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER NINE
THE IBADAN EXPERIENCE
I wrote NECO again and this time, I made my papers so I was good to move further in my academics. I wrote jamb 1, 2, no admission. I began to get frustrated. Mind you, I passed my jamb with no less than 200 in both so do not think, I did bad. I was just unlucky with Unilorin and Uniport respectively. So, I took pre-degree forms for University of Ibadan and I found myself in the heart of Ibadanland. Somewhere around Mokola axis, I stayed with a brother who was a chronic Womanizer and to make matters worse for me, my married neighbor’s friend was trying seriously hard to seduce me (LOL). I was very strong in the faith coupled with mum’s sex teaching. I was not into girls or relationship. Maybe, I should talk about that here. I never got interest in any lady until I got admission into the university and basically because of religious influence such as the, do not fornicate, keep yourself holy and stuffs like that bla bla bla. But on the other hand, personality would not help matter. How do I mean? I hate embarrassment not even from the opposite sex. A lady who is interested in you will give you green light but yet suffer you. My brother, I can’t go through that suffering. For what? No way! So I stayed away from anything in skirt. The disadvantages are that
1. It made me emotionally self-centered
2. It made it difficult for me to have a casual discussion with the opposite sex. The only discussion I can be free is only religious. Let’s just discuss the bible and the funny thing is, it makes them more attracted to me. Though I could sense it. I just ignore their feelings towards me. And I move on. Well ladies want feedback, that feeling of being wanted, that feeling of being appreciated and when they try to reach out to you by all means they can and all you give back is cold, frigid response. They chillout and that’s how I lost most of my female friends even to very bad boys. Infact, One of them hate me completely till today. When I get there, I narrate that, if I am led to. Well, I do not care sha back then.
3. It feeds my ego that I am attractive to ladies and I enjoyed that feeling
4. It made me clueless about ladies, I mean seriously clueless on ladies’/relationship issues. Thanks to DG for making me a better person in ladies’ matter. It’s so unfortunate, she could not come to terms with my present position on religion. I do miss her.
Anyway, the good side to it is that;
1. It help me focus better things like my academics
2. It help me to stay pure and holy before God. So I think
3. It made ladies respect me so much that, they can allow me stay alone in the house with them. Guarantee, nothing is going to happen. Even now
Am sure someone is feeling bad for me, another wants to know my position on sex presently. Well, here it is; Sex for me should be for people who are deeply aware of the consequences and the responsibilities that follows and be ready to take responsibility for it. I no longer care about religious disposition towards it because of this scenario. This happened at the verge of leaving Christianity; I was a staunch antagonist of pre-marital sex, because of the responsibility attached to it, is majorly that of the married persons coupled with the biblical injunction. I recall, I held a sex seminar in church, proclaiming it. But, frankly, can we be objective for once. Everything in life has advantage and disadvantage. I came across a story on Nairaland about a lady who upheld the no sex before marriage thing with her pastor spouse. In fact, it was the guy that made it clear to her. She was so happy about it. It is indeed rare to find a man like that. It is either he is lying or just truthfully hiding something. Anyway, marriage came according to the story, she narrated that, the guy told her, they should give tithe of their marriage to God, that they agreed to give about three months to God i.e. no sex. Whaoooo! What a thoughtful couple. Three month ended, no show. She spoke to the guy about her need. The guy was always dulging, until the sixth month, madam provoke one faithful night, today na today, it must happen or u kill me. The guy then, opened up to her that, he is impotent. He was advised to take a ‘leap of faith’, get married and pray towards potency. Hence, his no sex thing and tithe of marriage stuff. The lady was devastated and came to Nairaland to seek advice. If I recall, most persons agreed that she left the marriage because it was not built on trust. (Please the story was narrated, the way I could recall, I could have added or removed from it but please, set the point, I want to draw from the story). There is another one I heard of, I can’t recall, where, maybe Nairaland too, about two lovebirds from OAU, the guy graduated before the girl, they finished, bla bla bla, they ended chaining down themselves in marriage. The guy began to miss for house, come late to the house when madam don sleep. Mind you during their university days, when the love started, the guy promised not to touch her till wedding- this kind thing dey shack woman head heh, especially, if she still a virgin. Now, wedding don come, there was no sign of show anytime soon. She went to her inlaws to complain. Where she was asked, if she does not know before about her hubby’s predicament. She was like, which predicament? The old man was then diplomatic, called his son, to come and tell his wife, then it dawn on her that, she don enter one chance. She left the marriage according to the story. After reading that story, I was like “Wait! Is my drilling tool in good condition to drill when the time comes?”. The answer that came to my head was, “How will you know, if u never attempted to test it”. Now, I can’t test, No. But, I did test when I removed the religious burden off my neck anyway. Now If these couples had attempted an away match, once or twice. They would have resolved their issues and save themselves the pain and agony that followed much later. Now, those stories were registered in my medulla oblongata, questions like, why did this kind of a thing happen to a sexually pure couple? why did God not honour their marriage with that miracle? They had not defiled their bed. This is really disturbing.
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This is a very weird thing to hear. YYou have to fornicate to kñow if you are potent? You sure should be iñ the village, very archaic.

Weah96:
The Bible already defined your god for the whole world. What I did was look for that very god that was defined out here in the real world.

You want to make your god weaker and less powerful than the Bible say he is. Unfortunately, you don't have the privilege to do so. Not unless you burn every Bible on the planet and erase all cyber traces of them as well.

God forbid that i try to make Him weaker, i'm only showing you a better understanding and perspective of what and who He really is. The Bible's definition of God is not your definition, im sure. You dont like or agree with the Bible God, im certain. You want a God who will not punish sin, who will show up on CNN and make broadcast on Raypower, a god who will heal all sickness today and end all wars before 6pm if he's truly God. My friend, wake up, that is not the God defined in the Bible.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER EIGHT
CONTINUE
Now, permit to make this assertion, Now Ahab was too powerful for God to just squeeze life out of him. It sounds absolutely crazy for some being like God to use a lying spirit to convince his enemy to where he wants him to die, some mere mortal. Am sorry to say this, let me say it in the words of Brad Pitt (Achilles), what he told the Virgin priestess he took during the raid at Apollo’s temple. He said, “Let me tell you something, you were not told in your temple, THE GODS ARE JELOUS OF US BECAUSE WE ARE MORTALS”. I can’t agree less to this statement in the light of the above and many more to be revealed.
So I lost the opportunity to earn cool money and have access to unlimited information. Though, I still help the café guy so I do enjoy some free airtime to browse. It was in this process, I encountered Nairaland. I became an avid reader, and comment on anything relating to Christianity. I defended it on Nairaland with the likes of Davidlan, Frosbel- (whom I think are now agnostics (LOL), see wetin curiousity dey do person) amongst others against Olabowale and other Muslims. It was like a religious war. That was when I did so much reading on Islam, came across, this book “Who is this Allah” and many other eye-opener books. It was Nairaland that exposed me to a lot of Christian issues of contention in Christendom such as TITHING, PROSPERITY MESSAGES, SEED SOWING etc. I recall, I wrote a brain-washed article on tithing defending it as much as I could until, I researched and found the truth about it. I was angry with the church about it.
So I thought, if tithing is falsehood, then there are several others that we are blind to, Hence, I began full-fledge digging but a controlled one. The likes of Olabowale raised a lot of issues about the bible. Though then I refuse to be objective with the issue. I decided to pick each matter up. I realized a lot of issues were not making sense. Top on my list then was, the issue of the missing verse in I John 5: 6-9 with respect to King James Version, NIV and some other versions. I could not believe it. Who is lying? Who is saying the truth? The funny thing is, most of these issues, I took to the church and they will always make you feel you are erring and being rebellious if you insist they critically address the matter. You do not want to be a rebel- remember, Korah, Dathan and Abiram, they will ring in your ears. So, I shut down. But I went to see one of our ministers on the above issue. He told me, he would make his findings and get back to me. Till date, I have not heard from him. Though, I was thinking, I should go to him to get answers but I have a feeling, he is lost, himself but cannot just admit it.
One thing Christianity has successfully done to curious minds is to make them daft in thinking especially when it wants to make them question God. You will just conclude, there are certain questions that cannot be answered now until we get to heaven. Yes! quite correct- with respect to the bolden, but how sure are you that you will get to heaven? And also questions that one can’t find answer to, should not be filled with the God factor. God does not know all, if he does, he would not have created the devil and many other things he would have avoided.
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Davidylan is a Christian, I recall he left the forum for more engaging things. Frosbel is a backslider we warned well,though he still claim to be a Christian last i read of him. You don't need to lie or paint untrue pictures. You were never on nl's Christianity 'forefront' as it were, why deceiving others to think davidylan and frosb were your colleagues and you all know otherwise now. Looking through your profile, fits my description of you. You were simply a devoted religious person affected by the politics,corruption and poverty of the land and its ministers.

wirinet:
Sorry for your loss, but it was not God himself/itself that allowed the bright young man to die. It is probably his belief in God that allowed your friend to die. If he had been a little bit more faithless, he would have seeked professional medical help sooner instead of praying and fasting over the stomach ache with the popular Christian declaration " i am strong". He most probably died of untreated typhoid infection which is very common and deadly(if left untreated) due to drinking pure (poor) water and eating in bukas.

Sorry about your loss dankol. God's Word attest that even God's own people perish for lack of knowledge. God doesn't command or restrain us not to do the needful when sick. We hope your friend went to be with God though. Hes finished his course, remains us.