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omenka:
That is because he's got a strong Hausa accent. Only kids would hold that against someone. An English man or an American might not understand some of the things he says, hence the subtitle.

Same is done for leaders around the world whose speech cary strong local accent.

You have time sha, was David Cameron's English not subtitled by itv news?

Lordave:
This time around if they fail to occupy Garki, Wuse and Maitama God will murder all of them overnight.

And I hope they don't just occupy Abuja, they should also make sure a stone lands on PMD's shapeless head.

Opposition PDP can go and organise protest in Ekiti, Rivers or Bayelsa. The sagacity and technique of the former opposition was a beauty to behold.

ichommy:
I Will surely check Sir.
How are you Sir?

Very fine,thank you.

HardMirror:
Since when did handicap people believing in God become a proof of God's existence

He like most other people have a choice to serve God. The boy whose case I cased you to discourse will most likely grow up and die a firm believer in God. Go to mosques all over nigeria, you will see all manner of handicapped people even in worse situation than Pastor Nick, because they are not only handicapped but in abject poverty and hopelessness. Yet the pray to God without complaining 5 times everyday.
How is that a proof of God's existence.

My request is basic and straight forward. Let us pray for this boy's miracle. Or have you written God off even before praying?

i never said that handicap people believing in God is a proof of God's existence, so don't be more clever than yourself. It is very clear that belief in God transcends, overcomes and overrides disability and handicap, a point you firmly hinge your atheism on. You don't believe in God primarily because there is suffering and people are not healed etc, that is proven baseless and crying more than the bereaved.
My answer is basic and straight forward, there is NO point praying for the boy's miracle in the context of God's existence. God healing or not healing him does not do anything, i reminded you of countless miracles past already. Miracles are not guarantee of people coming to God, as you yourself have agreed that even deep pain and poverty does not stop people from believing and praying to God. God's hands are not itching Him neither is He desperate to work any miracle. Two, there are gifts of the Spirit which i already mentioned. Remind us why we need to pray for the boy again?

I've just edited my earlier post.

cc: ichommy

Goke7:
there is no opposition in Nigeria but those who have chosen not get over with the loss of GEJ, I understand their pain, they had never been in opposition from their political history, they are like fish taken out of its natural environment [water] and keep struggling to come to terms with its new environment.

Let them wail on, FG is broke, almost 30 states can't pay salaries, yet they want subsidy to remain. The same subsidy they supported their beloved GEJ to remove way back.

We do need quality opposition, as that is what develops a good democracy and stops a reoccurring PDPism.

Time for everything, a time to remove subsidy and a time not to. Now is the time.

omenka:
What do these guys know. They are just inconsolable Wailers. These same people that have been coming here to shout "we've been buying fuel at N400 a litre" are now making so much noise it would be sold at 145. What sense is there in their position?

If Buhari no change, he's considered rigid,archaic, despotic and gworo chewing. If he changes, he is considered a certificate less,burukutu sipping hypocrite. The opposition in this country is scaringly weak.

SleekAboki:
The Niger Delta is the darling and life blood of Nigeria. I wonder why buhari and APC failed to toast,win and dazzle her with romances? These people deserve much more respect than they are getting. Let justice be done.Life in the creeks is not even ideal for human habitation yet,tinubu and co sit down in their posh offices and sipping Niger Delta oil through oando. This is an insult and a grave injustice that must be addressed.

What does it mean to toast and dazzle? The implementation of the Ogoni cleanup, the Lagos-Calabar railway plan budgeted for, the road started from Cross Rivers last year, the 2nd Nigeria bridge all in less than a year. Despite the outright and violent rejection of APC in all the elections held same period. Who made life not to be ideal for human habitation? Have you bothered to query your governors? Does Oando not pay for whatever it uses? ****

jayriginal:
Look around. The problem is that people just swallow anything coming from a perceived authority without questioning. That's why our politicians get away with the nonsense they do.

He made the stat up. Facts are sacred. If he had said "a number of" rather than 50% I would have had no problem with it.

Explorers clearly said and you quoted MORE THAN 50%. Do you need any statistician to tell or confirm that? Except you are blind, it is easy to see that more than half people in cars don't use seatbelts in Nigeria. You don't need the Bible or a professor to say that before you know.

You are asking for mayhem. State government that cannot pay salaries? Police being owed 4months salary, he will rob like Robb, and extort money like hell on earth. Those that drive cars with their mouth don't have car accidents.

collabo4me:
no mind apc they appoint SAN SANE LAWYER as power minister

Ministerial position is administrative, he will not be climbing NEPA pole to do his job. Do you know that Kachikwu was a lawyer too, but Mobil appointed him as head. You would have appointed a geologist or a petrochemical engineer i guess. There are many roads to Rome, expand your worldview.

Avalon316:
Minister of darkness......... Fashola - the most overrated man in Nigerian politics.

How is he overrated? Is he supposed to use his savings account to implement projects? How do you cope with people blowing up gas lines and forcing shutdown of power plants?

Oh there's a part 2 to this? i don miss oh. You late na, HardMirror begging me to please show on page4. Anyways i no vex as a pikin of God na. Someone my notifications didn't tell me on time, was just reading through my mentions hoping i didn't skip anything important then saw this.

HardMirror:
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Cc. Gombs

here is a true life story of a little boy whose eyes were gorged out by ritualists

Kindly open the link www.nairaland.com/3072881/zaria-boy-whose-eyes-gouged

Pay close attention to the comments of christians and muslims on the thread. What do you notice?

1. You notice they feel real bad for the boy and angry at the ritualist. Very good!

2. You notice the pray for the Boy. Wonderful!

3. BUT you notice NO ONE IS PRAYING THAT GOD SHOULD RESTORE THE BLIND BOY'S EYES why? Lol. Their sub conscious knows for a FACT THAT THEIR GOD CANNOT RESTORE THE BOYS EYES!
Yet they claim God is a God of miracles. Yet they claim nothing is impossible for God! Lol

How long do we want to lie to ourselves?

Gombs, Joagbaje, I am not rich enough to pay for artificial eyes for the poor lad. And artificial eyes is still in research and development stage, not yet available to the public. BUT God does miracles for free is that not true?
So please can you link up with this boy and heal him in Jesus name? Or take hime to pastor Chis or Adeboye or any of our so called men of God?

This is the time you begin to hear tactical excuses like. Don't test God. God knows why he allowed the boy to be blind, blah blah blah.

But deep down we know the truth. You can't do it because deep down you know it's all lies.

Where are the noise makers. Princewell2012 analice abi what's her name? Image123 the ranter?
Action speaks louder than all the noise you are making here. Please show.

There are many things to say. One thing is this, Healing is a GIFT. The gifts of the Spirit are GIFTS, not rights. Among the gifts of the Spirit, we have the GIFT of healing.
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

Like i have told you before, the gift(s) of healing is as rare as Smith Wigglesworth. Of the nine gifts, the common ones are Word of knowledge, faith, prophecy, and then MAYBE discerning of spirits. The others are rare. They are GIFTS so you obviously should not be asking ME why they are rare. One point though is that if we really really need or ask for them, we will get them. It is someone with the gifts of healing or working of miracles that you can take such a situation to and be almost certain of getting your expected result. You may be lucky with others like a prayer of faith even without the baptism, or gifts like faith, word of knowledge etc. What what would get you what you are asking for easily is someone with the gift of healing, a rare one i must say.
That been said, the real issue is not the healing of the boy, or any miracle for that matter. Historically, people who have seen many miracles are not necessarily the closest to God. In fact, they are the most punished and strictly judged by God. The people of Israel in the wilderness saw all sorts of miracles, they still failed themselves and God. Same thing the generation that Jesus lived with, who went on to crucify Him. So, don't think God's hands are itching Him to work any miracle for you in that sense. The primary provision God has made is for our salvation, our forgiveness and deliverance from sin. Jesus says and the Word of God affirms that there is tribulation and sorrow in the world, and that until we get to that better place and time when God will wipe away sorrow and tears from eyes, you can expect this world to see such sorry states.
The good news and experience is that we can still please God despite challenges or no challenges. i'm not sure if it was you that i was telling about the paraplegic Annie J Flint. Her sorry challenges did not stop her from believing God. Here are some words from her popular hymn.

He giveth more grace as our burdens grow greater,
He sendeth more strength as our labors increase;
To added afflictions He addeth His mercy,
To multiplied trials He multiplies peace.

His love has no limits, His grace has no measure,
His power no boundary known unto men;
For out of His infinite riches in Jesus
He giveth, and giveth, and giveth again.

i want to believe you have heard about contemporary Nick Vujicic born without arms and legs yet serving God happily more than many that have arms and legs. Not to forget the great Fanny Jane crosby, who died at 95years old. Fanny wrote popular hymns like "Pass Me Not, O Gentle Saviour", "Blessed Assurance", "Jesus Is Tenderly Calling You Home", "Praise Him, Praise Him", "Rescue the Perishing", and "To God Be the Glory". Some 'medical' treatment when she was young left her blind forever. Yet she was the most inspiring of them all. Nobody has an excuse. God healing or not healing your friend does not prove anything.

OgundeleT:
ok, will they be given the same medication?

What medication? Will you pay for it?

So their job is to warn? What is wrong with them installing tracking devices that actually do the job. The racketeering is so much. Out of about 6 or 8 fuel stations in my area, all of them sell at 86.5/alleged litre except one. The miracle is that all these ones never have fuel except for the one that sells at 110 or 120 per alleged litre. That one ALWAYS has fuel, the others maybe once in a week. Who is deceiving who?

Which kain country we dey so? Mercury is passing in other countries, we no see am oh. Buhariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, why?

Ooni:
We christians are minority here in osun.
Oyedepo, Adeboye, and Kumuyi abandoned our state and are taking their message to ibos who are 98% christians.

Is it because ibos have more money than we yorubas?.
Pls if they are genuine i want them to come to osun and spread the gospel cos ifa worshipers and moslems make up 75% of osunites

It is every believer's duty to preach and spread the gospel, not the job of three men who i am certain have many churches and membership in the same Osun. Do your part, God is not for any tribe.

modath:
Dear Bubu,

If Malami isn't effective/ efficiently doing his Job, remove and replace him..

The time of "My governors,ministers, aides or political opponents" impeded me is dead and gone!!! Excuses nor dey ooo!!


BTW, That Malami should leave Kogi politics and face his job!!! So many yam eaters are walking around and thumping their noses at the law, not acceptable!!!

Buhari has a soft spot for Malami,being his lawyer for many years through the various electoral losses and tribunals. We may have to manage his incompetence.

YungMike:
Good morning nairalanders, happy Sunday, happy new month, happy workers day.

Now to the topic, I have a pal who does not attend church at all, but believes he's a christian because he prays and believes Jesus is Lord. He doesn't drink alcohol, doesn't commit sexual sin. But the only issue is he doesn't attend church. People say he is deceived and not a christian at all. I'm confused can you actually be a christian and not go to church?

It's a dicey question, like saying can one be educated without going to school, or can one be treated/well without going to the hospital? Best practice is not to forsake the assembling of ourselves. There are however cases where it may be a tough choice like if one is in prison or incapacitated by sickness for instance, can such follow Christ? They can but those are exceptional cases and not best practices.

Rose2014:
But why is FG dealing openly with everyone else but dealing secretly with herdsmen?

Question for Ifa

For one, herdsmen aren't threatening or openly opposing government, instead they are even denying attacking people, unlike boko haram, delta avengers,ipob etc

kcnwaigbo:
Don't mind the guy saying APC friendly militants!!Obsanjo tried forceand failed,Yaradua tried force and failed before he finally initiated the amnesty program.The NDA have tabled reasonable demands,the government should look into it

What are their demands please.

UyiIredia:
You said from faith to facts. I think you went from faith to foolishness.

Oops,this one is strong. Although i'm still hoping to even see the faith. What we have here is one caught in the web of religion and its politics who managed to come out,though maybe literally from frypan to fire.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER FOUR
THE HARBRINGER OF MY THOMAS
At a certain point, mum’s sickness was so critical, she was admitted into the hospital. I prayed my heart out but then, she only spent 7days in the hospital before giving up the ghost. I could not believe my ears when my aunt broke the news to me. I did not cry and in fact, I recall, that day vividly, it was a day Nigeria was playing Ivory Coast in the African Nations Cup. I took my radio to listen to commentary; suddenly, I saw one of our neighbors walk up to me to hit me on the nose, that I am heartless and I do not love my mum. I just ignored him. He won’t understand me and seriously, he does not understand people like me. Cholerics are too proud to cry in the public, they would rather die than show their weakness in the front of people. You think they don’t cry? No! They do, but they do not do it before people. They do it secretly and very disturbingly that, they could be destructive. Same when they are angry- that for them, is something to show people so you can fear them. I won’t tell you the secret to make them cry in public. You see why that man do not understand me now?
I kept my emotions in check till three days later, when she was to be given back to mother earth. That was when the flood gate of heaven was open and my holy water descended as never before. But not before people. I had to go to my room, I cried my heart out. No one knew till date, maybe they will know now that, I do miss her but I just could not admit it before people. That night, I recalled her last statement to me, she said “Dankol, You are in charge of the house now, take care of your siblings”. I began to ask some rhetorical questions
• Did she know she was going to die? I think she knew, why? because she prepared us for the future. I do miss her a lot but a lot of people who see me do not know I am from a polygamous home until I tell them neither do they believe my mum is deceased because of the way I do things. I act too matured for my age.
• Why did God allow her to die that young (39years, 7months, 7days)? The bible say with long life will he satisfy his servants. Maybe my mum faltered but his mercies are new every moment. At least by virtue of the fact that, her four children still need their mother to see them through the critical stages of their lives. Pitied my kid brother about 4 or 5 then, he cried consistently. I felt it, Did God feel it? is he seeing it? why is he not doing something about it? I consoled myself with the story of Job. (winks)
Seriously, the bible is an almost perfect book ever written maybe that’s why many believe it sacred because it has answers to most life questions, maybe not all. There is nothing that happen to you that you will not see something to console yourself with. The best and vaguest of all answers is, “it is God’s will” after all he is God, we can’t question him. I have also used it on people sha. it kills every DNA of logic and common sense in any Christian. Hahahahahahaha. Indeed! God’s will. It is God’s will to take a hen from her chicks just like he took my mum from us right? I guess he is the hawk that takes the hen and sometimes the chick too depending on how much he is hungry. When I get there, I will trash the issue.
But mind you, I wax stronger in faith, ignored it and moved on, just like any typical choleric. Not long after, I and my siblings left the region back to southwest to ease the burden on my dad. We were tricked to stay with my step mum anyway.
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Sorry about your mum. Must chip in though that yours is the typical atheist story most people expect. BTW, Jesus Christ died young and so did many of the twelve disciples. One would think you should know this.

dankol:
[b]CHAPTER THREE CONTINUED
Let me address an issue here cos I know it is going to pop up, I am quite aware that being churchy does not mean you are a Christian but I put it to you, good Christians by the general standard are good church goers but they are very few. The reason many church goers are not good Christians is because they are yet to submit totally to the teachings of Christ/the Scripture. They refuse to let the word sink deep within them and work it out. Many of them come to church because of the soul-drawing power of music that’s why they say, music is the food of the soul. I recall, several times, I lead in worship, many new faces do come into the church and after that service, you see them no more. They were only attracted to the mannerism/charisma, of the singer. But only the ones that comes back and decide to stay form a bulk of these bad/unserious Christians. They did not come because Jesus touch them or the holy spirit ministered to them, they came to enjoy good songs to lift them off their depression and challenges. Seriously today, that’s what people want to hear “It is well”, “Your problems are over”, “You can make it”. Songs and messages that reminds you of good things or promise you of good things to come. Of all Christian music artist today, only the likes of Panam Percy Paul, Freke Umoh, Solomon Lange and Sinach (for me, she is the only Pentecostal song minister that knows how to write soul moving worship songs- indeed a worshipper, there may be others I do not know cos I have long resigned). Tope Alabi would have made my list, but she has lost that touch too. Let me say, I am very biased towards worship. That’s my specialty. So, if you are not a worshipper, I may not fancy you. I want you to do a check on churches that have powerful song ministers, the congregation is always massive. Also check churches with no innovation, the usual do re me fa so la ti do type, you will see the difference. No doubt, no one is perfect but I do tell people, when you are conscious of the fact that you have the tendency to do bad things, fall from grace; it will help you take good decisions to strengthen your character for the better. That, you are no better than, a Thief, it could have been you, but the difference is that, you know it is bad, you are conscious of things that will make you prone to it and you consciously avoid it. It is a thing of the mindset. That does not mean tomorrow you can’t do it cos it a consistent renewing of the mind (Romans 12:2)- one of my favourite scripture from verse 1. Else you will falter. For instance, the notion about being a Christian is centered around working for God in the church or giving your money to finance church projects- (Partially agree with the first but totally disagree with the second). Now you can’t work for God outside the church. i.e. be an active worker not some bench warmer like I am now anyway. Thus, you can’t remove churchiness from being a good Christian. Because, it is an injunction in the bible, forsake not the gathering of the BRETHREN. Take note of the Bolden, and check the dictionary for the meaning. So the truth is, if you think you are a good/true/faithful Christian(brethren) without going or being active in one way or the other in your local church. You are deceiving yourself. Yet that does not remove the fact that, not all church goers are good Christians.
Here lies one of the greatest weakness of Christianity. Just like the most popular church in Nigeria will always boast, we have over 40,000 churches in Nigeria and are present in over 140 (I am not sure) countries. The church is expanding and moving to the permanent site. Yea! She is expanding in Quantity and shrinking in Quality of Christians. Is that growth to you? Yea! She is expanding by building edifices like the Hagia Sofia, can’t build one church of faithful ministers how much more faithful Christian members. Yea! Her money is growing like grass, but her members are poor as church rat. I laugh in 3-D. we so much believe in numbers but one thing people do not know is Zero is the most powerful number in the numerical system yet the least. If you doubt me check this out
0.1 and 10 both have zeros but the position is what matters.
Mind you, if you are lover of good movies, you should have watched ‘The 300 Spartans’. You would know that it is not about numbers. There is more to having a quality team. I rest my case on that
Back to the Story line, sorry about the preaching I did above, that’s the Christian me you saw above. It’s part of me. I still study the bible in case some overzealous fellas want to fall my hand. (Winks)
If I had wanted Power or any leadership position, I would have it without sweating it but I am not a lover of fame. I love to do things without people noticing me. More so, I like to help people become even better than me. With all humility, I handed over my Music Directorship to someone I groomed. She is doing fine but recently she stepped down from the post in church. She has seen enough too. (LOL).
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This says nothing about conversion, being born again. The new birth is indispensable.

cloudgoddess:
You sure do love making false equivalences.

Don't you love the freethinker lodge? Do you people give offerings? When is workers meeting?

johnydon22:
Most child's talks are meant to ignored, not everyone that seeks attention deserves to get one at least only when they seek it with a normal reason

Just wondering, is she your girlfriend? U've been sounding quite possessive for one with ideas about freedom from influence.

PastorAIO:
4They said, “Moses permitted a man TO WRITE A CERTIFICATE OF DIVORCE AND SEND her AWAY.” 5But Jesus said to them, “Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6“But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.
Mark 10:5


“When a man takes a wife and marries her, if then she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, and she departs out of his house,
Deuteronomy 24:1

According to Jesus Moses wrote laws that were not issued from God but rather were a compromise to the recalcitrant disposition of the Israelites. Yet these laws are part of our God given biblical laws, according to some bibliolaters.
How much of the OT is a directive from God and how much is Moses' own tinkering?

Moses'law was issued from God. Jesus DID NOT say that the passage did not issue from God. He only said that it was not so from the beginning. Genesis to deuteronomy is generally said to be written by Moses, it is in this context that Jesus used the name Moses. All Scripture is given by divine inspiration.

Followed thread, wetin happen. Anyway, for the love of God, where is JeSoul. Nostalgia. People don dey this forum sha.

i thought prophet Suleman said he is dead?

There's a freethinker's lodge. How many days do you guys have service in a week? Do you have choruses or hymns? i heard the muslims now do choruses and hymns on sundays too. When are you guys going to be beheaded and stoned with joy for your faith/unbelief?

matrix600:
ok, i understand

Good for you, but you did not answer my question.