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musKeeto: Lol, of course... Jesus took care of them but still gives Christians ability to treat that which he has taken care of..
Amazing... makes a lot of sense...

You are just beating around the bush. The people who compiled the peace index used a lot of inidcators to make that table such as political instability, relationship with neighboring countries, criminality in the society etc.

Secularity is a prerequisite for freedom. Fact. Religion can not guarantee you freedom from religion or rather, freedom from itself. Only a secular country can guarantee you freedom from religion, of religion and full human rights.

The peace index is not useless.




Furthermore, only 15% of the 72% go to church. Furthermore the fgure for christians in new zealand is not 72%, it is the people that believe in God. Christians in New Zealand are about 50%

logicboy: So Jesus heals your medical problems? Then you should avoid those doctors

musKeeto: Of course, every human has unique experiences. For me, it's sleep paralysis, for you it's brain paralysis...

musKeeto: Yeah, I've experienced such in the afternoon. Not that frequent anyway...

musKeeto: and how this one use concern hermaphrodites?

logicboy: Out of that 72% who believe in God in New zealand, how many of them go to church?

"Religion in New Zealand is dominated demographically by Christianity, at just over half of the population at the 2006 New Zealand Census[1] although regular church attendance is probably closer to 15%""

Furthermore, New Zealand is a secular country, Nigeria is not. Did you also notice that 27% are clearly agnostic/atheist n ~New Zealand, while Nigeria has less than 1% atheists.
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Did you also ignore the picture of the world peace index? Are you that shallow?

Yes, Japan, New Zealand and Iceland are peaceful because they are secular, secularity is a prerequiesite fro peace and freedom, not religion

logicboy: Out of that 72% who believe in God in New zealand, how many of them go to church?

"Religion in New Zealand is dominated demographically by Christianity, at just over half of the population at the 2006 New Zealand Census[1] although regular church attendance is probably closer to 15%""

Furthermore, New Zealand is a secular country, Nigeria is not. Did you also notice that 27% are clearly agnostic/atheist n ~New Zealand, while Nigeria has less than 1% atheists.
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Did you also ignore the picture of the world peace index? Are you that shallow?

Yes, Japan, New Zealand and Iceland are peaceful because they are secular, secularity is a prerequiesite fro peace and freedom, not religion

musKeeto: Speechless?

Martian: If it wasn't one of the measures, "prosperity gospel" wouldn't be the most popular form of christianity in Nigeria.



You mean the ones who would have a harder task getting into the "kingdom of god" than a camel going through the eye of a needle? When you say the "rich and powerful people" in Nigeria, do you mean christians like OBJ and muslims like IBB? Ibori was a "rich and powerful" person too. Maybe when the poverty stricken masses see PimpDaddy G.O shaking Ibori's hand they get inspired by the holy spirit.



You need to quit smoking that opium.

logicboy: Iceland
-A Gallup poll conducted in 2011 found that 60% of Icelanders considered religion to be unimportant in their daily lives, one of the highest rates of irreligion in the world.[3

New Zealand
-The results of this survey indicated that 72% of the population believe in God or a higher power, 15% are agnostic, and 13% are atheist (with a 3% margin of error).[8]

Japan
-64% atheistic

Martian: Are you insecured? Are you having a crisis of faith? Is your faith shaken? Why did you make this statement when the OP didn't say anything about the existence of god? Why appeal to the wealth of a few individual believers when the question is about poverty and church attendance?

You insecurity laid bare for everyone to see..............

Maybe this is what you meant to say

logicboy: And that is why the rich and powerful in Nigeria are leading Nigeria astray. Oyedepo slapping people, governors embezzling and pastors embezzling tithes like governors



The most peaceful and free countries in the world are secular and have a lot of atheist. The poorest are religious

Jem1: Bros, since all the tithes were by command of the Lord since it was HOLY and BELONGED to the Lord, they always were 'paying' when they met the obligation on what they did with Tithes (according to His command). But if you insist, the Pharisee who tithed mint and cumin could have been 'paying' the following obligation:

Deut 26:12

"When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied."


- So, Jesus in referring to 'tithes of mint, cumin etc', could have been referring to this:

Deut 26:13

"Then say to the Lord your God: “I have removed from my house the sacred portion and have given it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, according to all you commanded. I have not turned aside from your commands nor have I forgotten any of them.


- At the end of the day among the Israelites, TITHES were always EATEN either by the LEVITES, WIDOWS, ORPHANS, FOREIGNER or the TITHER(Deut 14:26) by command of the Lord.

@Bro Image, the tithe you boasted to me you paid in post 917, hope you remembered the fatherless and the widow also? Since you are trying to keep the COMMAND of the Lord. Or will you be robbing God if you give it to them to eat from it?

Or have you forgotten some of His commands?

Jem1: lol bro, don't worry, when you tithe to me, I'll remove a tenth from your tithe and do likewise . I don't have to tithe from my own increase since you say I should do likewise lol. I shall simply pay a tithe of your tithe. Pls point the way to Aaron's sons so I can present it them

Jem1: @Goshen, bro Image already paid tithes in Abram to Melchisedec.. Even Levites didn't have to pay again. Since Hebrews gives no new instructions to pay, bro image is being a cheerful giver. Never mind him trying to dress it up to impress God.

Jem1: Bro Debosky, our brother has forgotten that Jesus did not specifically say 'this (temple tithe) you must do', He could have meant 'festival tithe' and bro Image would be well within his rights to eat his mint & cumin lol. He can even sell it & buy anything his soul lusteth after

debosky: I hope you tithed cumin, mint and anise to Jesus as he 'commanded' in Matthew and Hebrew?

Maybe I missed bible classes because of my makossa again, but I don't recall seeing Jesus commanding people to give him tithes in Matthew. But then again I might be wrong.