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Hehehehehe. Ojoro oooo, goshen. Test malpratise. Hehehehehehe. I go cry o.

dare2think:
Most impressed by this statement. Dude, I get confused with you. I always thought you subscribed to this prosperity fraudulent doctrine!!! Do you share your ID with someone?

Except perhaps you've being hacking into my account. It's the same position i've been holding. It's unfortunate that most of you that seem to hold this same view, turn tables when you see a rich christian. You condemn a christian because he has this or that, and i try to say that's not enough to condemn him. Your bank account(fat or lean) is not a measure of whether God's with you or not.

@OP.
Surprise suprise. You are jealous of your wife. You're so jealous you'd immediately deny. You may not even know. But now you know, so quit being jealous. Okay, you also need the baptism of the Holy Spirit, it's a sweet sweet Spirit.
On the other hand, your wife needs to remember that she's still a human, with human responsibilities. From your story, she's disconnected from reality. She needs to find a balance. You may see her pastor and explain issues to him. He can sit her down and help her. The path of force you're treading won't work. She'll see PERSECUTION all over. She'll look for grace to 'stand', and your home may be worse for it. So pray for your family, make greater effort than ever to LOVE your wife, and meet her ogas(na dem she go quick hear for now. To her, you no spirishual reach).

No. 1 is the book of Esther. I don try na.

Yep, stop reading them. Don't allow stargazing to manipulate your life. God has a better plan in the long run.

The OP already answerEd the question. Seems he was seeking more discussion on the issue. Christ Jesus the man, the lamb was made lower so it's obvious that the Father's greater than Him. But God the Son is co-equal, same glory same honour same power same divinity through eternity, as God the Father and God the Spirit.

@Jo
Oops, running. I recall asking "Jo, what makes it a bad habit?" and you said

It's the indecency. And it's a sign of dominion of the flesh. When flesh rules a person.

I thought your explanation already qualifies the act as a sin? What is 'indecency', please define?[edit. o, nl's says 'por.n' is indecency. Is por.n just an unclean act that should not be too much?] Is por.nography indecency? When is indecency ever a sin?
Is it okay for the flesh to rule over a person? Cos you've just said that mastu.rbation is Just the flesh ruling over a person. Is a christian supposed to indulge self or deny self daily. I almost can't believe i'm discussing this with your person. You rarely surprise me, but this also?

Joagbaje:
It's a bad habit just like doing drugs. Or drinking .But it's not a Sin against God.

Jo, what makes it a bad habit? Is it the spilling or the angle of the hand?

I agree with thine post. To your question, they are co-equal.

Back to topic iguess. Why's Jesus calling the Holy Spirit ANOTHER comforter if it's the same? Was He being dubious on the cross when He said 'why has thou forsaken me?' and Who's fooling who when He 'died' on the cross and resurrected 3days later.

nuclearboy:
They don't choose to believe He doesn't exist! They merely say it just to support their earlier postulations even though they know the truth

There you go. The big fools have said with their mouth, 'There is no God'.

When he's been said to be separated from his wife for so long, why he no go talk worse. He wan eat him moin-moin and have it ni. Abi he dey take them Joagbaje serious wey dey hail am say hin see greater light and stronger truth pass Bible? smhip

"Nevertheless, to avoid fornication(AND DEVIL'S DOCTRINE), let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." (1 Corinthians 7:2).

It's so simple. If God wants all His children to be rich(i.e financially wealthy), then it means Jesus and the apostles were not walking in the will of God. Life to God, and is real children is more than money. Having Money is not a yardstick of been close to God, spiritual or not perishing for lack of knowledge.

It's good riddance to bad rubbish. The road blocks do not prevent crime. Crime, accidents, kidnappings and highway robberies(day and night) happen all the time. These guys disappear as banks are being boldly robbed for hours. They only exercise force against the common man, and remove uniform immediately the hear knockout. They are one of the chief reason why the whole country takes corruption as a normal way of life. I hope this 'directive' becomes law.

Ptolomeus:
Etc. etc,
Respected friend:
If you had read my post, had understood that I put at the disposal documents of the Catholic Church, showing that the divinity of Jesus as God, did not happen before the year 325. The passages you cite (Peter, Mattheus, etc. etc.) are much older, do not tell us that Jesus is God, Jesus never said that, neither did his disciples, and the Bible never considered him a god or the old or the new testament.
I would like a commentary on the Council of Nicea.
Maybe then we would talk about the same.
I hope you do not feel offended by my comment.
A warm greeting!

When someone's shot you on the head with all due respects, and warm greetings. So much for being politically correct. I'm aware of the council of Nicea. My convictions on the Trinity are before my knowledge of such council, and firmly rooted in the scriptures, not in church Fathers and politics. I'm not offended BTW

And so what? And so what? Making predictions doesn't make him a true christian.

So, robots are programmed to do good? Awoof dey run belle, no freebies, we only have God's will in Heaven.

So, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are referred to as God. They are so perfectly in unison that they are One, not two, not three, but One. they are co-eternal, co-responsible, co-equal. they are the only One worshipped without reservation. It is not right to worship man, or angel. Only God is to be worshipped. Jesus Christ never rejected worship, even while on earth, angels did, and man as well.

Act 10:25  And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
Act 10:26  But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man
Col 2:18  Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshiping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,.
Matthew 14:33  Then they that were in the ship came and worshiped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
Matthew 28:9  And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshiped him.
Mat 4:10  Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

The Father, The Son, and the Spirit ETERNAL like no other. Only these are not created, but Creator. So they are co-eternal.
Deuteronomy 33:27  The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.   FATHER
Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.   SON
Heb 9:14  How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?   SPIRIT

The Father, The Son, and the Spirit have an EQUALITY of function like no other. It is in the beginning God, God there been 'Elohim' which is plural of the Supreme being, and appearing hundreds of times in scripture. It is God that made the heaven and earth. It is God that raised Jesus, it is God that spake to the prophets, yet they are so interchangeably and seemlessly ''substituted'' for the other all through scriptures.

CHRIST IS SON OF GOD(FATHER AND SPIRIT)

Matthew 1:18  Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
Christ is actually the Son of the Holy Ghost, who is God the Spirit.

GOD IS THE SPIRIT.

2Corinth 3:17  Now the Lord is that Spiri[/b]t: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

John 4:23  But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24  [b]God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

GOD'S SPIRIT IS JESUS'S SPIRIT

Gal 4:6  And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
1Peter 1:11  Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

GOD IS JUDGE (ACTUALLY JESUS IS THE GOD THAT IS JUDGE)

Heb 12:23  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
John 5:22  For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

JESUS IS CO-EQUAL WITH THE FATHER

John 5:23  That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which hath sent him.
John 17:10  And ALL mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
John 10:30  I and my Father are one.
Joh 16:15  All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall show it unto you.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS THE KINGDOM OF CHRIST

2Peter 1:11  For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

TEMPTING GOD IS TEMPTING CHRIST and THE HOLY SPIRIT

1Corinthians 10:9  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
Isa 63:10  But they rebelled, and vexed his Holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

WE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD THE SON, THE FATHER AND THE SPIRIT

1Cor 3:16  Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1Cor 6:19  What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghos[/b]t which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

GOD DWELLS IN US< THE TRINITY

1Cor 3:16  Know ye not that [b]ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
1John 4:15  Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
Rev 3:20  Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

WE ARE SANCTIFIED BY GOD THE FATHER, SON AND SPIRIT

John 17:17  Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
1Th 5:23  And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.  
Heb 13:12  Wherefore J[b]esus also, that he might sanctify[/b] the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; Eph 5:26  That he might sanctif[/b]y and cleanse it
Rom 15:16  That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being [b]sanctified by the Holy Ghost.

GOD CREATED ALL THINGS< THE FATHER, THE SON, THE SPIRIT

i should not be giving scriptures for that, i hope?

GOD ALONE IS SAVIOUR, REDEEMER AND KING

Isa 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and[b] his redeemer[/b] the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
Isa 43:11  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.
Matthew 21:5  Tell ye the daughter of Zion, Behold, thy king cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
Titus 2:14  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Phi 3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Chris[/b]t:
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, [b]the first and the last.
Time would fail me to continue to list these things so evidently set in scriptures, yet a mystery.

Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to draw up a narrative concerning those matters which have been fulfilled among us, even as they delivered them unto us, who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word, it seemed good to me also, having traced the course of all things accurately from the first, to write unto thee in order,
It's without doubt that the scripture is replete with passages that affirm the existence of the triune holy God. While i don't think a perfect understanding of these matter has much to do with our salvation, i must say that it is a mystery, and that the infinite God cannot be fully comprehended by the finite man. Any deep comprehension of God is borne out of gracious revelation by God. it's my prayer that God reveals to many again, of His truths.
1Timothy 3:16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:

  The important thing is not whether the word 'trinity'appears in scriptures or not. It is that the concept appears. The words 'Bible', and 'rapture'do not appears (in the KJV at least, that is) either. But we all mostly agree that the Bible is the Word of God/contains the Word of God. The doctrine of the trinity is succintly that the Godhead consists of three separate, distinct and recognisable persons perfectly united in one. The Godhead is not the head of God, but a divine unity, not fully comprehensible to man. Man does not fully understand himself, don't even know his wife or child of many years fully. How we claim perfect understanding of God is staggering. How many even understand fully the concept of an atom? Did i just say FULLY, that's a doctorate on it's own.
 Acts 17:29  Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Moving briskly to the scriptures. We see that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost exist separately. Compare the baptism of Jesus.
Mat 3:16  And Jesus, when he was baptized, WENT UP straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God DESCENDING like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
It was no film trick played by God. We don't see the same person here, quickly change from Jesus and turn to Holy Spirit descending, and quickly ghost to heaven to declare "this is my beloved Son". No, we see three separate persons. Jesus Himself referred to the Holy Ghost as 'another', and to His Father in heaven.
John 14:16  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever;
So, they were separate, distinct and recognisable persons.
2Corinthians 13:14  The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.
 Now, the scriptures show that these three are God in a way like no other. No being compares, no angel, no man, nothing. It's just and only these three. So united are they that they are one. God is greater than our body, and no analogy with anything may fully fit. But consider the human body with many parts. It's all the body, whether hand or leg or tongue. The body parts are co-existent, and have always existed together from start. All parts are needed for a complete body. the liver is not greater than the leg, neither is the leg greater than the hand. It's all one same body. God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit comprise the Godhead.
Many on this thread don't have issues on each been referred to as God, nevertheless, i'll quote some scripture for the benefit of doubt.
The Father- Galatians 1:3  Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ
The Son- Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.
The Spirit- Act 5:3  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4  While it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
 (i should break this, for easy reading)

ok

Phammy:
Pls undastandn mata 1 was d bible compiled wen jesus was alive,hw many years afta he died was d bible published,who compiled d bible, in which langauage was it wrten 1st 2 agree with me dat nt all wordngs are dsame in d bible cus of d translators,wen u compiled a book reffering to past experence u cant wrte exactly wat apend is eida u minus or u add i mean paul. 3 jesus imself tot us hw to pray dat our fada hw am in heaven alow be thy name argue with me dat he can be prayin to himself as fada. Lastly u dat u siad jesus is lord read dis. It is wrten dat he who looks afta neida sleep nor dose bt jesus slept in d canoe. Dats shows is nt God.thanks if u which to argue with me just reply my post.

This has to be the revered Latin language in which the catholic wrote the Bible in dem dark ages? God, have mercy.

PA1982:
Is this a joke or a scam?
Or both?

It's a message?

@OP, you berra believe the christian's authority. Those Jews are really 'Jew men'(no pun intended). They are blind for now. So you take what we say, hook, line and sinker, okay?

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in." (Romans 11:25).

If nuclear would not greet me after such alongtime, i'll greet him by fire by force. Nuclear, happy new year o.

Ehn, na mouth dey take to see Jesus ko? Anyways, she'll see Jesus. Everybody will see Jesus, whether they'd dwell together forever na another matter for Martha.

Zikkyy:
Violently Will 'blowing' up the devil in him be appropriate?

zik, as the sprint leads nah.

OP, Firstly, you've quoted the verse wrongly.
Secondly, it'll surprise you that you're actually the one separating them. Because the understanding should be, if they are one, then you should not treat them as two. If the wife has been told, it's that the husband has also being told. What you do to the husband, you've also done for the wife. What you do for the church you've done for Jesus, and vice versa. That's the mystery of the husband-wife relationship. It depends on where you're looking from, your perspective.

Cast out the devil in him violently like since them John baptist days? huh?

Oh, so you knew the verse? Put your 'analogies' aside, is rap music spiritual?