₦airaland Forum

Afam:
A comprehensive camera based security system is needed if we need to tackle crime. That way, even after any robbery the faces of the robbers would appear on all major newspapers and TVs.

Its amazing how you consistently fail to see the big picture. Energy conservation is your solution to Nigeria power problem while security cameras are the elixir for armed robberies .

Hey,how about free breast implants as solution for excessively bodily conscious women ?

The blind have no regard for syntax.

ayanfe:
Deceptive statistics.

a) How much of those 2% is natural resources a.k.a African resources?

b) 98% is between who and who? Come on now. Besides "West to rest of developing world trade", the 98% also includes China to India, India to Malaysia, China to Middle East, China to Russia, South America to India, Russia to South America.

a) Your initial premise was that the West's development depends on African resources.That's patently false.Our share of global trade is negligible.The West does not survive on that 2% component of global trade.

b)What has the rest of the developing world to do with your claim that Africa's resources are the pillars of Western development.If that is the case,these resources also are the pillars of the entire world's development,for China ,India and the Asian Tigers depend on the West's export market and the West itself,according to you,depends on Africa.So the world depends on Africa I wonder who Africa depends on,is it Western trading customers who are the source of the bulk of Africa's revenues?

In regards to the question of industrialisation.I guess one planned industrial centre in Lekki,settles the debate as to whether China offers any unique advantage in Africa's quest for industrialisation. Almost all of the foreign investment in manufacturing in Africa has come from the West,how China offers anything different other than an addition to our list of future potential investors is yet to be explained.

ayanfe:
Whether Nigeria is an ant next to Japan, the topic is whether or not Africom in our around Nigeria is in our interest. With a dearth of logical points to counter the excellent decisions made by Nigeria to reject Africom, your indulgence in mockery is predictable.

You seem to be unable to follow an argument.Let me summarise for your slow paced mind:

US bases in foreign countries were criticized as merely attempts to exploit local resources.To which there was a retort that this hasn't been the case in countries that have hosted US bases for a long time,e.g Japan and S.Korea.Ziddy dismissed Japan as "capitalist slaves".The irony in a Nigeria dismissing Japan was not lost on me.

There,in a nutshell,is the context of the debate.What is there not to mock?A citizen of a country with no respect for its citizen's human rights,no power supply,water,universal health care or education,is lampooning Japan as a capitalist slave.

ayanfe:
Western development and maintaining development depends on African resources, Chinese [/b]manpower and [b]Western and Chinese manufacturing.

The premise of your posts is obviously wrong.Western development doesn't depend on African resources.Africa's share in global trade,and this includes the Arab North,is about 2%.Western trade with Africa is only a negligible part of the West's entire trade relations.

The Chinese strategy seems to be to use African resources, Chinese manpower and manufacturing , BUT to include African manpower and manufacturing power. [b]NOTE that china intends to CREATE industrial centers all over Africa, including Nigeria. [/b]WHEN did Western nations ever plan to create industrial centers in Nigeria/

The key word here is "intends".This is mere sorcery.Nobody can say with any certainty what the Chinese actually intend to do.One point is however clear.The Chinese are driven by a realist and pragmatist approach.They do what is most economically feasible.

If industrial centres in Africa are economically viable,China will invest,if not,they won't.But so will the rest of the world.Multi-national corporations invest where they are confident they will get adequate returns on their investment,those corporations might be Chinese or Western,its irrelevant which national origins they have.

So China does not engage in acts of altruism.It will only invest where it can make a return.Africa lacks an industrial base because the economic environment is harsh for the manufacturing industry.This has nothing to with outsiders.No outsider will come and fix our problems for us unless the business climate changes.

In the past,we had lots of partnerships with Western companies-Peugeout in Kaduna,Volkswagen,Steyr,Daimler,e.t.c.The first refinery in Nigeria was built by Shell.Most of these collapsed under a harsh operating environment. If this isn't addressed,don't expect China to build your imagined industrial centres.If it addressed,not only will China come in,but the whole world will come anyway rendering redundant,the suggestion that China offers some unique advantages in our quest for industralisation

debosky:
Tugay for blackburn? the dude is a bit part player, he plays very few games these days, the others may be true. . .but Carrick was the main creativity in the Spurs before he went to Utd, and even there, he is a few paces behind Scholes who remains the best English midfielder

Dayo no dey watch EPL,he has dropped massive clangers like this before.How can someone claim Joe Cole,not Lampard,as the creative fulcrum for Chelski?Never mind his reference to Tugay.The most creative midfielder for Blackburn is Bentley,followed by David Dunn

That a player like Gerrald or Lampard lacks flair has nothing to do with whether he is world class.The problem with England is that their players,with few exceptions, are all one-dimensional-lacking technique and restricted to long passes and fierce shots at goals.Joe Cole is an exception but he is largely peripheral in matches.

The question is whether you prefer a fixture like-Germany v Russia or Germany v England.Do you prefer watching Pavlychenko to Rooney.Would you rather watch Arshavin,Kerzhakov or Joe Cole and Steven Gerrald

You have to go back to Paul Gascoigne,not Scholes,to find the last time England had a creative midfielder who had fantastic technique.Scholes,Lampard and Gerrard belong in the same league,they are essentially midfielders whose specialty is a wide range of passing,they all lack the ability use the ball better on the ground.

At least the Czech Republic showed they were better than the Germans

Don't dig into anything. People like you have been conditioned to close their eyes to Truth and when truth comes in subtle forms it makes it easier for your ilk to deny it entirely.

There is something wholly laughable at the idea of a Nigerian mocking Japan.Is our nation any better than Japan?You don't have electricity,pipe-borne water,universal education. . . . . .and you are calling Japan capitalist slaves.

uspry1:
@naijaking1

My disbelief basis of "American Citizen Deported To Nigeria Wrongly" is THERE IS NO SUCH AS any US NEWS AND NEWSPAPER OUTLET has NOT aired and NOT published in the public with THE PICTURE OF Grayson Edward Eugene DISPLAYED TO BE INTERVIEWED as well as NO ONE IN THE FAMILY, RELATIVES, CHURCH MEMBERS, COWORKERS and FRIENDS have come to get him out of Nigeria or PETITIONED for him!

You are wasting your time trying to look at this from a purely rational perspective.Paranoid anti-Americanism is incompatible with rationality

Should McClaren have played Michael Owen on Friday against Austria? Would have needed him today

Great video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-krM6erRs7M

jenni81:
Racism in England football is too pronouced. The real keeper in form is David James but due to his colour he was over looked.

Obviously,you haven't heard about "Calamity James".

Make dem sack the Andora manager immediately,his team was a disgrace

dayokanu:
The solution is to change the name of the team from 3 lions to 11 rats/cockroaches that would fit them better

This is a comment from BBc 606
I can't get over the racist rubbish being spouted here again as an excuse for England's exit - when was the last time they won anything? 1966!!! Over 40 years ago - not even a European Championships. The high volume of foreign players is relatively very recent. England have only lived up to the billing of a top side up there with the Brazil's Germany's etc once in history and that was with a lot of luck and on home soil. Simply not good enough. For the neutrals who had to endure the torture of watching England last WC this can only be good news.
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An example of the way odds were stacked in favour of England for their sole World Cup victory,in their Q/F game against Argentina in 1966,an Argentine player was sent off because, as the ref put it,he didn't like the look in his eyes

bolaoni:
Shame on all these craps. England lost at home? After being handed a lifeline?

This is UNBELIEVABLE!

What happened? This is just senseless to me. The Israelis will be feeling bad now, they
shouldn't have helped these crap team out in the first place

Its better the way things panned out.England had their fate in their hands and they totally blew it

debosky:
Beckham retires, Obi!

HAHAHAHA HOHOHOHOHOHO, England players should go and apply for ball boys in Euro 2008, spaces going fast!

Beckham is on 99 caps. . . .he is still available for South Africa 2010.

I dey happier today than when Utd won the League.I haven't been this happy since the treble

@toshman and Debo

Its clear that the lack of Man Utd players on the pitch is the root cause of this disaster

For once,I'm cheering a Gooner!Well done to Eduardo

@Toshman

Abeg,are you guys partying in Wales? Welsh people no sabi good thing,I'm sure there are huge parties in Scotland.

Make everybody go for serious prayers!We need Croatia to maintain this lead

I have been logged on for the past 4 years. . .try beating that

Big B1:
I believe because Ibadan happens to be the center of Yoruba land. As a politician, if you're able to concur Ibadan, it means you've concurred the entire Yoruba land.

This statement is not confirmed, it's just the way I see it.

Dumb Gooners. . . .can't tell the difference between opinion and fact

@RichyBlack

I'm sure you must be paid for stupidity.Nobody can be this stupid without some financial rewards.Toyota and US military bases. . . .in the world of retards. . .there is no limit to the juxtaposition of issues.

RichyBlacK:
In George Bush's GWOT, anything is possible, including denaturalization. However, Bush-worshipers like you can't imagine this possibility.

But neither Eugene nor his lawyers claim he has been subject to that procedure.So where is the basis of your claim except the inner sanctum of your frazzled brain?

You're looking for evidence of rendition in the wrong place. Eugene can't tell you; only the Bush administration can reveal that. Everything is secret in their nonsensical GWOT.

If everything is secret,how do you know what you are claiming.So the onus of proof is on the Bush adminstration,not the person making a claim,to prove that this wasn't rendition.This is quintessential idiocy. . . .passing the burden of proof to the accused.

Anything is possible under Bush's GWOT. Eugene could have been drugged.

Is his legal team drugged as well? Are you drugged or just innately stupid?

dayokanu:
Milan has a way of deceiving to conquer watch out in May 2006 for the UCL final featuring Milan

What about Bayern's chances in the Champions League. . . .oh!wait,they didn't qualify

Good luck with European power houses like Bolton Wanderers

McKren:
When Dr Rilwanu Lukman and his team announced that FG will review the activities of companies like Shell and Exxonmobil, I thought that was great.

Even greater will be investigating the corruption cesspool called NNPC.

RichyBlacK:
The Germans and the Japanese (part of the old Axis of Evil) have moved away from the now archaic military-centric mindset of the Americans, focusing on making more efficient machines - Benz, Toyota, etc. than the Americans - Ford, et. Now they (Americans) are looking for new places to expand the deployment of their arsenal of mass murder?

I know that it will not be in my lifetime that I will see a GI with an Oklahoma accent patrolling Mile 2, Lagos. No matter what happens in Nigeria, we must never allow the evil tentacles of the American military-industrial complex extend to our fatherland! Not in my lifetime; not in my grand-children's lifetime.

You talk more drivel than anyone on this forum.What has Benz and Toyota to do with the US military?Between West Germany and East Germany,which nation grew richer and more industrialised? Where the US bases not in West Germany?

Between South Korea and North Korea,which nation is more industrialised and richer?And which one of them hosts US bases? If there is a correlation between permanent US bases and long term prosperity,we can see for our selves the verdict of history.

naijaking1:
While Nigeria can barely crank out 4500MW of electricity, China has almost completed its 3 Gorges Dam capable of producing 225,500 MW.

All these power plants China is building,when it can simply conserve energy.One Energy lore is that China is building a coal power station every week.

I saw this other story-http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6769743.stm

China is now building about two power stations every week,

McKren:
As long as Nigeria, South Africa and Lybia are opposed to it. This proposal will obviously go no where.

Africom needs only one host country.Personnel to man it will take about 2000 Americans.So the consent of the above is irrelevant.I hope you do not share the Nigerian delusion of grandeur.Nigerian opinion doesn't matter when France has built military bases in many parts of Africa.

If you can't stop France,you won't stop the US.

How does having US military bases shackle our development.US military bases in S.Korea,Japan and Germany didn't impoverish those nations.There are US military bases in Britain,is Britain impoverished.

Tell me why America should have Military bases in other countries and no one else will have military bases in theirs?

Don't cry more than the bereaved,many countries lobby the US to establish military bases in their country.In today's world,its a matter of consent.If a country consents to have US bases in theirs,especially those that lobby for it,its their prerogative.

denex:
As for the slowpoke that was praising the massive help the USA afforded Indonesia during and after the Tsunami, I think you should look at the Americans that suffered and are still suffering years after Katrina with no help. "Person wey never remove firewood from hin eye, e dey go Indonesia go commot hair from their eye". Continue to deceive yourselves. Do you even know that people were being giving mercy killings during the Hurricanes in government hospitals.

"Who no know go dey talk like say na him know pass."


Keep laughing at presidents that are going round the world lobbying for their countries' stake in world economics and politics. Let's see.

See this man of unbridled imbecility,calling another slowpoke.Perhaps,you recognise a kindred spirit.Who told you some victims of Katrina have received no help ?You make up your "facts" as you go along.US approved spending for Katrina,as at 2006,stood at $122bn.Nigeria's entire budget for 2007 was $24bn for a nation of 140 million.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-08-21-katrina-costs_x.htm

You can question whether there has been adequate help but to claim that there has been no help for some beggars belief.

The irony in your defence of Chavez and your dismissal of US help for Indonesia is that Chavez does the same thing you just attacked the US for. Chavez subsidises energy bills for poor people in the US,yet his country,Venezuela,has greater social needs and deeper poverty.You failed to see the irony in that and proceeded to call someone an slowpoke.