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Tippy Top:
I somehow agree with Sagamite. Where was this dolt of a father when she needed him.

Maybe the white mother dropped the baby off at an orphanage and didn't tell him he had a kid.  It's possible.  Why would an African man refuse his kid? In those days?  (Okay, that was a little too naive-sounding )  The grandparents are always looking to add to the brood.  Yeah, things are bad economically now.  But when Stacie was born, they would have just taken her to Nigeria and raise her there. (That's what I've seen with 2 families anyway.)

To expect his long lost daughter to embrace "Igbo" culture after 42yrs is a get rich quick scheme.

Wow!  That's harsh.  You don't know.  He was in America that long ago.  Maybe he received a good degree and did well for himself back home.  Come on.  Read a little bit more about them before saying that.  I don't know everything about her but I didn't get any negative info about the dad.  That woman is too happy about finding her dad.  Nothing bad going on here.

Her real father is the man who raised her.
How about embracing American culture and paying for the child support that he missed?

What child support?  The mother didn't want her.  The other people adopted her.  You don't pay child support to adoptive parents.

Dis Guy:
Back in the days when[b] i use to ko mo le[/b],

Hilarious!  I nissed this the first time around.

^^^ Wey the video?

Youtube?

I don't know where you'd find the video, but the segment was featured on the final/group interview episode of the TV show Real Housewives of something.  I think DC.  If you have time maybe it's available online.  Dunno though.

Her website: http://www.stacieturner.com/

ezeagu:
It happens, but it is not the usual. A lot of Some people in the West go into debt after weddings right? But others may marry at a reception. The Igbo do not have one consciousness and neither those any other ethnic group.

Stop getting defensive. Obiagu answered my question. You're reacting to something said in jest. 

Maybe some people go into debt.  I dunno. 

Am not mad at you. 

Obiagu1:
Other things include things poor people do as well. A poor man can do traditional marriage, a rich man can equally do his own. It all depends on how you want it done, but the basic which is the traditional aspect of it is not costly. A rich man can spend lavishly if he wants to because he has the money but no one forces you to go beyond what you can't do.

The N1,000 is symbolic and when it's given back to you, it means that marriage has been annulled, so we don't give back bride price except when the marriage has to be dissolved.

Oh, Okay.  Thank you for answering that.  But, you know there is an impression that a lot of Igbo men can't get married when they want to because they're saving up for bride price because it is so high, especially if the future bride is educated or has other desired values.  No disrespect.  I just always heard that.  I've even seen it on this site.  Maybe they're just talking about gifts to the bride's family and the cost of a lavish wedding to impress the village?  

And, for those who are still skeptical about it, from the video I watched, demands are not being made on her before she can join the family.  The bride price is something the family is asking the husband to do.  Let him eat poison if he can't do it,  Seriously.

She wants to be a part of her culture.  Plus, in the video, the husband was also very enthusiastic.

Obiagu1:
In my town, it is just N1,000. Who can't afford that?

Really?  A thousand naira?  Not dollars? I guess they do other things, right?

I believe with Yorubas the "bride price" is more symbolic, with them giving it back and saying something like "our child is not for sale." I think you still spend money on the bride's family one way or the other. Somehow they still get you!

matemate. Oh Gaaawwwddd. Hahahahaha. WTH?

Stranger, Psst.  It's IsaleGangan, not Isale Eko.

ziddy:
Igbo Kwenu! All eyes on the money like always 

Let him pay!  Let him take out a line of credit at the bank even.  American man wants African girl, let him pay.

Seriously though, she really wants to do it!  She embraced the culture and is so thrilled to have found her people.  You should have seen her face when she was talking about it.

I think maybe we're missing the point.  It didn't sound like she felt pressured at all.  Quite the contrary.  You know, her white mother, whom she found as an adult, is so ashamed and paranoid about anyone knowing she had a child with a black man?  She won't tell her husband and children.  This Stacie girl is doing what makes her happy. 

Hope everything goes well in Nigeria.
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In conclusion. . . .

chic2pimp:
I wan submit my marriage application be dat oooo. . . . . I don ask Busybody her mama and she don gree,

Sagamite:
24 kegs of palmwine
80 tubbers of yam
One typewriter for im mama
One pot of Isi Ewu for the family
4 motorcycles for her uncles
18 blackberry for im siblings
4 mosquito nets for im grandparents for village
One trouser and singlet for me
90 kegs of ogogoro
110 bicycles for im cousins
4 goats, 12 chickens and 2 Malu (cow)
250 yards of adire (Yoruba attire)
One Hummer for the Akarigbo of Remo (Sagamu) so I can get my chieftiancy title soon
2 fluffy bathroom towels for me to tie on the waist in the morning and walk proudly across Sagamu streets to show off to my neighbours

And then she is all yours.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=403381.msg7277189#msg7277189

Don't attack the messenger, please. ::scared:: Just kidding o.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=586261.msg7548242#msg7548242 date=1295264972]. . . take her offline[/quote]Ki'lewi?  What?  Why can't I be online?  I'm here to talk about politics in general and keep up with current affairs at home. I promise.  Or, do I have to show you the "Pali" Oyinbo school gave me for Political Science? 

I saw her on tv a few months ago.  She talked about finding her dad and talking to him and several members of the family.  What stood out for me was how excited she was about the culture.  She said she and her husband were going to have their wedding all over again, because the family told her they didn't do it right according to Igbo tradition - her family wants the husband to pay the bride price and do all the traditional stuff. 

P.S. I think her mom is white.

fstranger1:
[flash=400,400]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeTCVojVE2Q?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash]

Hey, Stranger.  That's neat.  Obey's style is subtle, isn't it. 

Also, feel free to laugh at Eku_Bear. 

P.S.  I'll listen again.  A message, I surmise.  "Ko sogbon to le da." 

edited: I don't want to derail thread.  I'll search for a couple of online shopping sites and post in this message shortly. ok?

GO HERE. I haven't ordered from them but those online stores were recommended to me for Barrister's records. I expect they would have Obey's as well.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=569456.msg7411077#msg7411077

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586261.msg7546492#msg7546492 date=1295238966]Five women in the same house is the fastest way to wake up one morning missing your balls. Or with a knife in your throat. . . these polygamists are a lot braver than I am, I guess.[/quote]Hahahahahaha. Maybe you are gay. Hehehehehehe. I'm kidding I'm joking. Wuss!

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586261.msg7546150#msg7546150 date=1295228645]^---  

I am starting to wonder if I give off a gayish internet vibe. Becomerich is not even the first nairalander to call me gay! [/quote]You don't give off a gay vibe.  Broda Becomrich is out of his mind!  He's talking about 5 wives in the same house and everyone sharing their money and crap.  They'll kill each other!  If you're gonna do that, have the sense to buy them their own homes/flats.  Didn't you read "Things Fall Apart"?  Didn't each wife have her own hut?  

At least we now know what else the Broda is passionate about besides satellite maps - THE WIMENS!

Anyway, I don't want to be in this thread.  

*I was never here*

- -

Okay.  No worries. 

[quote author=Mrs.Chima link=topic=586446.msg7545355#msg7545355 date=1295215566]Are you African or AA?[/quote]101% African. Nigerian.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586446.msg7545297#msg7545297 date=1295214923]Money in that proly ain't right

Leverage poli sci into law degree?

I thought I wanted to be a professor too, but realized I'd rather be rich instead. . .[/quote]Bear, Some story in that.  Diverted.  Long Story.  For another time though.

MsChima,
Never heard it referred to as "Great Deal."  

What period would you consider Reconstructon to have ended and the "Civil Rights Movement" to have started?

You mentioned you do presentation on this.  Refer any source on the Black Muslims practice that you described.  Not Google (or Wikipedia) though.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586446.msg7545264#msg7545264 date=1295214461]Me and you both But I'm trying to fix the situation by paying more attention to Nigerian politics and history.[/quote]Hey, Bear.  It irks me.  I am working on it.  Maybe I'll just get a Ed.D and teach American History or Comparative Politics or something in Nigeria.

I noticed this topic and thought it was interesting - with no intent to participate since I had nothing to contribute.

But I have to highlight some things that really conflicted with everything I know.  I'm not AA, but pursuing Pol Sci in the US means, to my utter consternation, I know more about American History and Politics than that of my own.  

Really, I have to address the following, and feel free to reply me :

[quote author=Mrs.Chima link=topic=586446.msg7543832#msg7543832 date=1295198029]Back in 1930, America suffered a great depression when the economy crashed.  The president FDR created an act called "The Great Deal" which is modern day welfare system.[/quote]I think you meant FDR's "NEW DEAL." You're conflating Great Depression and New Deal.

A woman who apply for welfare at the time could not hold any marriage license and no male were to be present in the household when social workers visit the home. This movemnt caused a division with the NUCLEAR BLACK FAMILIES Black women were becoming head of house hold in the 60's during the Jim Crow Era because black men were put in jail for protesting against the unjust. Jim Crow caused such rift amongst black women and men that the marriage between the two dwindled  and women having to step up providing for their children by depending on the welfare system.

"JIM CROW" was not in the 1960s.  Jim Crow happened in the period after the civil war, during Reconstruction, 1865 onwards.  You must have meant to say, 60s = time of the Civil Rights Movement, MLK's time.
 

In order for the government not to have records of such union they were often married in private halls by the preacher and under the Islamic tenet, you were married under Allah and witnesses.  The blacks took the same tenet and made it work for them.

This is surprising. I have never heard of this. While I am not NOI, I have had a lot of contact with them, plus other "mainstream" Muslims in the US. Black muslims in America, mainly the Nation of Islam, did not approve of or enable single motherhood. I have seen nothing referencing the practice, in the 70s or beyond, where women were encouraged to get married by an Imam under "Islamic Tenet" so they could continue to collect welfare from the government.  To the contrary, the Black Muslims emphasised economic independence and, in some cases, separatism.

Now we are moving toward 1970's during the New Age Movement, the nuclear black families were completely destroyed and black women became head of household after black men were sought out by the police force because of riots and protests.

To what extent did Blacks participate in the New Age Movement in 70s?  The prevailing view is that the 70s for AA was a time when they were proclaiming the "Black Power" and "Black Separatist"movements, along with  "Black Liberation Theology."  I always thought Black  participation in the New Age Movement was very limited.

Other than that, interesting thread.

Mobinga:
^ You should have been meticulous enough to read my first post.
EDITED by mobinga, and not created.

I know that!  See my earlier post where I indicated I had seen the original unedited version. 

Wanted to post it, but couldn't find it to share with everyone, hence, I trust that, you, the original poster ("editor" of the cartoon) have access to it and can share, if you so choose.  Something like that.   Leave me alone.  I'm not in the mood to explain things today.  Anyway, good job.

Maybe the poster will share the original cartoon when he feels like it. 

Meanwhile, here is another one that was created by the same cartoonist, E.B. Asukwo.  Jonathan in bed checking his Facebook account.  I think it was previously posted on NL:

http://www.cp-africa.com/2010/07/12/weeks-cartoon-goodluck-jonathan-reading-facebook-comments/

And interview with the cartoonist, E.B. Asukwo, plus a sample of his work:

http://www.cp-africa.com/2010/03/08/interview-with-nigerian-political-cartoonist-asukwo-e-b/

I saw the original of that cartoon a couple of days ago.  It showed GEJ, if I remember correctly, refusing to "friend" Atiku(?) on Facebook.

Good! There's noting I would love more than to be there. But the festival always honors a recently departed Lagosian. I didn't see a name. . .

fstranger1:
Ti aba gbagbe oro ana akole ri eni ba sere!

'K.

fstranger1:
Very well said

Thanks Isalegangan2

::once bitten twice shy:: Okay. I sense a trap though. I think I'm gonna log off.

[quote author=tpia* link=topic=582073.msg7536203#msg7536203 date=1295060976]Federal judges in Arizona recused in mass shooting [/quote][quote author=tpia* link=topic=582073.msg7536207#msg7536207 date=1295061041]California federal judge appointed in Arizona shooting case[/quote]Typically, you give the state first crack at trying a criminal case like this.  If conflicts arise, then the feds come in and take a shot.  First sending it to U.S. District Court just complicates things needlessly.  The crime happened in Arizona.  They have as competent a judicial system as any in the country - their politically motivated legislators notwithstanding.  And, the last time I checked, Arizona had the death penalty, in case they just want to ensure that. 

JeSoul:
Isalegan, you're a very interesting character. lol.   Lol. I for one could've certainly patronized your hair-making skills.

Oh, you poor misguided thing.  Take a seat and let me do your hair.  We'll hang and chill and gab. . . and then you'll get home and scare everyone including your pet poodle. 

News for the past few days is that the congresswoman is responding and improving as well as as can be expected in a head/brain injury case.  Below are excerpts of two 5-page articles.  Good read.  Sheds light on police and medical personnel that responded to incident.  It's a good place to end my news updates.  Anyone else can can keep it going.  Hey, Tpia! 
 

From Bloody Scene to E.R., Life-Saving Choices in Tucson
By DENISE GRADY and JENNIFER MEDINA
Published: January 14, 2011
New York Times

“Lots of people were laying on the ground,” said Mr. Compagno, from Fire Station 30 the in Northwest Fire/Rescue District of Tucson.

“The congresswoman, I could tell that she was still alive. People were giving a little girl CPR. My mind went away. I started counting, and then I thought, ‘What am I counting, injured or dead?’ ”

There were 19 victims. Mr. Compagno’s job was triage: to assess the severity of injuries and label victims so that ambulance crews would know whom to tend to first.

He realized instantly that there was no time to write labels. Ambulances and fire engines were roaring up.

The victims dropped where they stood, forming a row 20 or 30 feet long.

Mr. Compagno could see quickly that five were dead, seven were “immediates,” needing help right away, and the rest could wait.

The child receiving CPR was not responding, but Mr. Compagno was not about to write her off.

“The little girl, I counted her as an immediate,” he said.

Instead of using labels, he simply directed each rescue team to a victim.

The goal was to stabilize them and get them to the hospital as quickly as possible, because people with severe gunshot wounds need trauma surgeons.

The first two patients were ready to go even before the helicopters landed: Nine-year-old Christina-Taylor Green, who had been receiving CPR, and Ms. Giffords were loaded into ambulances.

Ten patients were sent to the trauma center at the University of Arizona medical center. The first to arrive was Christina — still getting CPR, still not responding.

By normal standards, a gunshot victim who is unresponsive after 15 minutes of CPR has almost no hope of surviving and can be declared dead. Christina had already received 20 or 25 minutes, according to a report radioed in.

“This was a 9-year-old girl,” said Dr. Randall S. Friese, 46, a trauma surgeon. “Even though she had CPR beyond our guidelines, I decided to be aggressive.”

Dr. Friese said he could not be certain the radio report was correct. But he could not afford the minutes it would take to verify it.

“You decide, and you do,” he said. “It’s a personal decision, and I decided to be aggressive, just because she was 9.”

He tried a desperate last-ditch maneuver. Within about two minutes, he had cut open her chest, inserted a tube to fill her heart with blood and massaged the heart with his hand to try to start it beating again.

“I had her heart in my hand,” Dr. Friese said. “We filled it with blood. It still didn’t want to beat. So, it was over. We’re finished.”

At that moment, a resident stepped in to tell him a second patient had arrived, assigned to Trauma Room 5: Ms. Giffords. It was the first time Dr. Friese had heard that she was among the victims.

He told the resident assisting him to fill Christina’s heart and try once more to make it start beating again.

By the time he reached Room 5, the resident had tried, and failed. Christina was gone.

The team in Room 5 had already begun assessing Ms. Giffords when Dr. Friese arrived.

“I walked in and held her left hand, held it in both of my hands, and I thought to myself, ‘I need to communicate with her,’ ” he said. “I was uncertain if she would hear me, that she would process my words. It turned out later that she probably did. That was my reward. I leaned in close to her, and I said, ‘Ms. Giffords, you are in a hospital. We are going to take care of you.’ ”

He expected no response. Next, he asked her to squeeze his hand. She did. A few moments later he asked her again, and again she complied. It was cause for hope. But when he tried the same thing with her right hand, there was no response.

More here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/15medical.html?

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A Jigsaw Picture of an Accused Killer
By THE NEW YORK TIMES
Published: January 15, 2011

Deputy Sheriff Thomas Audetat, a chiseled former Marine with three tours in Iraq to his credit, dug his knee into the gangly young man’s back and cuffed him. With the aid of another deputy, he relieved the heroic civilians of their charge and began searching for weapons other than the Glock semiautomatic pistol, secured nearby under a civilian’s foot, that had just fired 31 rounds.

In the left front pocket, two 15-round magazines. In the right front pocket, a black, four-inch folding knife. “Are there any other weapons on you?” Deputy Audetat recalled demanding.

“Back right pocket.”

But the back right pocket contained no weapons. Instead, in a Ziploc bag, the deputy found about $20 in cash, some change, a credit card and, peeking through the plastic as if proffering a calling card, an Arizona driver’s license for one Jared Lee Loughner, 22.

Deputy Audetat lifted the passive, even relaxed suspect to his feet and led him to the patrol car, where the man twisted himself awkwardly across the back seat, face planted on the floor board. Then he invoked an oddly timed constitutional right. “I plead the Fifth,” Mr. Loughner said, though the deputy had no intention of questioning him. “I plead the Fifth.”

At a Pima County Sheriff’s Department substation, Deputy Audetat guided Mr. Loughner to a tiny interview room with a two-way mirror, directed him to a plastic blue chair and offered him a glass of water. The deputy detected no remorse; nothing.

Now to another building for the mug shot. Look into the camera, the suspect was told. He smiled.

Click.

More here: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=1&hp

Is this a joke?  They're not "eating" anyone!  It is obvious this is some sort of medical lab session going on.  My initial thought was that they were medical students dissecting a cadaver, something we all know is done in med schools.  But, because of the uniforms and due to the fact it is outdoors, I checked some more. . . 
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=49843

The scenes of them eating was obviously taken during their lunch break, which is to be expected.

For urban legends or internet hoaxes like this, when in doubt, check Snopes.  http://snopes.com/

jason123:
Thank you my sister! We have to remove the cabal completely by removing GJ ( a product of the cabal and zoning they are all now denying). BTW, make sure you and your family come back to Nigeria to vote Ribadu in!

Hehehehe. Okay, Jason. 

Almost all my family are there and they'll all vote.  They're in Lagos and probably all ACN, but I really don't know yet who each one will vote for.  My mom likes Jonathan - she thinks he's "nice."  Hehehehe. (I know my bro is Fashola fanatic and trust me the whole family is for him.)  Will get feedback about Ribadu's nomination for Presd. 

On voting, I don't know if I can get away this March.  That's why I keep asking about them extending voting rights to citizens abroad!  You're in Europe, right?  Anyway, I don't want to drift off-topic.

Akhenaten1:
An airport in Bayelsa is not needed. Port Harcourt is close enough.

Won't it help reduce the pressure on road travel - long arduous ones?  Road accidents have always been a huge concern.  Poor roads etc.  Anyway, I'll concede.  Just don't see how it can hurt.  I'm not bothered either way.  ::shrug::

Akhenaten,
Friend or foe?  No hard feelings on the erroneous picture label in your civil war thread, ok?  I still don't get the purpose of it, but you've created lots of other cool picture threads since. 

P.S. Just noticed new i.d. You got banned? Hope I didn't spesk too soon.

fstranger1:
See kettle calling the pot black.

#$%^&*(#@!