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*Just wondering if I missed Bernimoore's answer to my post or he hasn't answered*

@ Bernimoore,

Firstly, we don't bow to and make supplication to any statue. We can bow before a statue but only in reverence to the depicted Saint or God who bestows honour on that Saint.

Does this your definition of worship apply to everybody or just to Catholics?

If it applies to everybody, can we then say that Joshua and the other Israelites worshipped the Ark of the Covenant? Or are you going to judge them differently than you do Catholics?

Joshua 7:6 Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell facedown to the ground before the ark of the Lord, remaining there till evening. The elders of Israel did the same, and sprinkled dust on their heads. 7 And Joshua said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord, why did you ever bring this people across the Jordan to deliver us into the hands of the Amorites to destroy us? If only we had been content to stay on the other side of the Jordan! 8 Pardon your servant, Lord. What can I say, now that Israel has been routed by its enemies? 9 The Canaanites and the other people of the country will hear about this and they will surround us and wipe out our name from the earth. What then will you do for your own great name?”

Chukskalidon: I still maintain that catholicism is a mystery.

Perhaps because God himself is a mystery.

Betting - in and of itself - is not a sin. But there are certain conditions in which it could become a sin, mainly when you become a slave to it. When you are a compulsive gambler and for example, use the money that could have gone to pay for your childrens school fees to bet etc

Betting, like drinking and eating, is not necessarily evil until you become a slave to it/them.

@ Bursturbrain and Bernimoore,

When you say "Catholics worship..." Can you define what you mean by worship?

PROOF of everything you said, please.

Chukskalidon: I think this may be true but still we know every fight against christians is directed towards d catholics,why?

John 15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20 Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.

Chukskalidon: @italo its historically true but do u have a real fabt abt that

for you to say it is "historically true" means you have historical FACTS so when you ask for facts again, im confused.

what kind of facts do you want exactly?

CrazyMan: I worship God...I don't follow church doctrines.

If you are not following church doctrines, it means you are following your personal doctrine. Doesn't it?

Chukskalidon: @italo its historically true but do u have a real fabt abt that

for you to say it is "historically true" means you have historical FACTS so when you ask for facts again, im confused.

what kind of facts do you want exactly?

To be frank, I thought long and hard, looking for a way to understand the meaning or the message...

...I'm still thinking.

caseless: didn't u hear that the bomber's dad was arrested or his wife identified him? Every knows he was a member of that church. Who killed thos 20 muslims in birnin gwari on their way from the mosque to observe morning prayers?

Wadeoye: Can you point me to news items on this interesting revelation?

Please show us your source.

Also, I didn't even hear of the 20 Muslims before now. Maybe you should tell me who killed them. I don't know.

Okay, you are trying to teach me that Jesus' body is not Jesus. Perhaps you think it is Moses.

Jesus said "I am the bread of life"

I will believe him, not you.

dhtml: Not like that, opposing is equal to fighting here. But i love your opposition sha, it makes everything interesting.
Up pope italo!!

Thank you. i only say what i know to be true and oppose what i know to be false.

@ Ijawkid,

Firstly, show me where the Bible calls the bread and wine "symbols."

When did Jesus actually mean when he said " “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

How have I fought you? Just by having contrary opinions?

I don't know, but I know that the wine in the cup becomes the blood of Christ after consecration.

Matt. 26:27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

What was poured out for many? Was it the blood of Christ or a symbol of it?

What was given up? Is it the body of Christ or a symbol of it?

caseless: and once again, u ar more bigoted! Tell me who killed the muslims that also died in kaduna?

That is not what we are talking about.

I don't talk about what I don't know. I don't even know the particular Muslims you are talking about, but I don't even want to go into this Muslim killing thing that the whole world is well aware of...

But as for The Catholic Churches bombed in Kaduna during Sunday mass?...

WE KNOW WHO IS KILLING US!

Wearing a rosary will not fool us... Neither will it fool the world.

caseless: and once again, u ar more bigoted! Tell me who killed the muslims that also died in kaduna?

That is not what we are talking about.

I don't talk about what I don't know.

But as for The Catholic Churches bombed in Kaduna during Sunday mass?...

WE KNOW WHO IS KILLING US!

Wearing a rosary will not fool us.

Again. We are not fools.

We know who is killing us.

Kaduna Christians know who is killing them...and it shows in their reaction each time.

@ frosbel,

When did hell prevail against it?

Where/which is the true Church of God and why were pagans able to put so much confusion into it?

We are not fools!

Who paid you people to propagate this story?

frosbel: The catholic church is not the CHURCH !

Catholic Church is led by the POPE.

The Church is led by Christ.

One is led by Christ while the other is led by anti-Christ !!

So which and/or where is this "church/body of Christ of yours which the gates of hades has put so much confusion into/prevailed against?

@ Ijawkid,

Maybe you should tell us what Jesus gave to the apostles to eat and drink.

You know I like laughing at your mental gymnastics.

Although, my guess is, you won't want to embarass yourself this time.

Maybe you should tell us what Jesus gave to the apostles.

You know I like laughing at your mental gymnastics.

Although, my guess is, you won't want to embarass yourself this time.

frosbel: Reserve your weeping for the false pagan gospel that has brought so much confusion into the body of Christ.

So pagans can bring "so much confusion into the body of Christ?" I don't think so.

Jesus said "the gates of hades cannot prevail against his Church."

If there is "so much confusion" in the BODY, it is Christ's body.

frosbel: The popes have a lot to answer for on the day of judgement.

Of course. That's because they are human.

But you, who are divine, who are always right, who knows everything, will have nothing to answer for.

For me, and one billion others,

The Catholic Church is the ONE TRUE CHURCH founded by Jesus Christ.

There is nothing like "churches."

Dear Boomark,

Don't blame Catholics.

Blame Jesus.

He was the one who took BREAD, and after blessing it, said "THIS IS MY BODY!"

So how is it our fault that we believe him and you don't?

...Praise be to God.

[quote author= yah]This is really getting bothersome. Christians are using a lot of internet-time on this board for example to battle with catholics. While the boko-haram are bombing the catholics in real life.
This is just one phase, so many christians say that catholics are pagans. Recently an atheist said they are covering up information. I have also heard of other forms of attacks against the rcc, but lets not even go there.

Why all the beefs against the RCC? Even the rcc members here (italo and his croonies) are not even helping matters at all.[/quote]@ OP, if I have committed a crime, please say it...

...But if not, why do you malign me?

I weep for Christianity!

See confusion!

Jesus is sure not the author of this confusion.

Now who is telling the truth?

Everyone is saying different things and everyone will claim to be under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Somebody/some people is/are lying/preaching false doctrine...

...And it sure aint The Holy Spirit.

I continue to look on...wondering who to believe.

musKeeto: Atheists attack you? Lol.. una no go kee person, dezz kristyans..

Yes, they do.

There have been many cases of Atheists attacking Catholics and desecrating sacred places and objects (and of course, not just Catholics) in places like the US (of course, not just the US) just for sticking to their faith, for being Catholic.

...And these attacks are not even limited to physical ones like this. They take many forms.

Attacked by Muslims

Attacked by non-Catholic "Christians"

Attacked by Atheists.

Our help is in the name of the Lord, who made heaven and earth.